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If I purchase the g2x from T-mobile without being a t-mobile customer, will they provide an unlock code?

Go to the store and ask or call them and ask, best way to get solid answers
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I think the phone has to be in service for either 60 or 90 days (don't remember which) and then they'll give you the unlock code. You have to tell them you're traveling internationally. It takes about 24 hours from the time of the request for HTC phones and the code is sent in an e-mail. I just got the code for my G2 which I'm selling to get a G2X. The code for the G2X has to come from LG so I don't know what their turn around time is.

BarryH_GEG said:
I think the phone has to be in service for either 60 or 90 days (don't remember which) and then they'll give you the unlock code. You have to tell them you're traveling internationally. It takes about 24 hours from the time of the request for HTC phones and the code is sent in an e-mail. I just got the code for my G2 which I'm selling to get a G2X. The code for the G2X has to come from LG so I don't know what their turn around time is.
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I've heard if you've been a customer for (60-90? days), even prepaid, they'll give you an unlock code even on a freshly purchased phone. I've got a T-Mo prepaid card that I keep afloat with minimum top-ups for my trips to the US, so if I do buy the G2x or another T-Mo phone I should be able to get the unlock from them.

I thought it was mandatory now. If you ask for the unlock code, they have to give it to you regardless. Guess I was wrong?

Anyone here work at t-mobile that can give any solutions to non t-mobile customers who don't want to open an account?

I suspect this device is carrier locked, but I would buy one if I could confirm that I could use it on AT&T out of the box.

Compatibility AT&T 4G
nomisunrider said:
Anyone here work at t-mobile that can give any solutions to non t-mobile customers who don't want to open an account?
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Sorry nomisunrider, not trying to hijack your thread, but since we are already Hijacking the o2x forum
I have another question for Non-T-Mobile (AT&T) people.
My question is how compatible is the G2X going to be with AT&T's "4G"?
Also I am currently using Nexus One AT&T 3G, but I am thinking that I should be able to change that to the 4G service without altering my contract, or loosing grandfathered "unlimited data plan"?
Any input or info much appriciated

nomisunrider said:
Anyone here work at t-mobile that can give any solutions to non t-mobile customers who don't want to open an account?
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T-Mobile isn't in the business of selling phones. They'll only sell you a phone in conjunction with a pre- or post-paid wireless plan. As someone said, out of the box the phone is locked to T-Mobile. You can request an unlock code after 60 or 90 days of maintaining an account in good standing.

nomisunrider said:
Anyone here work at t-mobile that can give any solutions to non t-mobile customers who don't want to open an account?
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why don't you wait until after the 20th and most likely you will find them online unlocked..just like the t-mobile sg vibrant

I have a friend on t-mobile. Can he call them up and request sim unlock codes?

I am also in this situation but I prefer not to buy from ebay. What about unlocking services? Do they permanently unlock the phone? Does flashing a different ROM on the phone affect the unlock?

nomisunrider said:
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Cant get it right away, but I am sure it will be available soon.
http://www.expansys-usa.com/lg-g2x-android-smartphone-unlocked-216928/

I believe the G2X is unlocked out of box I got to review the device today and it has at&t options under network settings like the Nexus One.

If you purchase out right you can get code immediately (meaning requesting the code). If its an upgrade/new activation must wait until buyers remorse is up and not be past due or had an unlock code in last 90 days. I'm not at work now but that's the policy, I believe not sure if its 90 or 60 though can't remember. Hope this helps
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I've been asking around and several people have informed me that if you purchase the phone for full retail, t-mobile will provide you with an unlock code. I also found this on wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIM_lock#United_States
"One of the two national GSM carriers, T-Mobile,[43] will unlock handsets for those with active account in good standing for at least 40 days and no unlock code request in the last 90 days. T-Mobile will also unlock a phone if the full retail price is paid and proof of purchase is provided through a faxed document. "

nomisunrider said:
I've been asking around and several people have informed me that if you purchase the phone for full retail, t-mobile will provide you with an unlock code. I also found this on wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIM_lock#United_States
"One of the two national GSM carriers, T-Mobile,[43] will unlock handsets for those with active account in good standing for at least 40 days and no unlock code request in the last 90 days. T-Mobile will also unlock a phone if the full retail price is paid and proof of purchase is provided through a faxed document. "
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There we go that's the policy takes 24 hours for the request to process and up to 7 days to receive the code.
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i'm a sales rep and according to our new policy (if reps follow it) we cant even sell phones without service and if you arent a customer (if you did buy the phone full price wo being a customer) we do not provide unlock codes....

h0wlings0nnets said:
i'm a sales rep and according to our new policy (if reps follow it) we cant even sell phones without service and if you arent a customer (if you did buy the phone full price wo being a customer) we do not provide unlock codes....
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Sorry to inform you, but you need to brush up on your company's policies.
I just got off of the phone with t-mobile customer care (1-877-453-1304). I called them because I wanted clarification on this before I purchased 2 full retail price phones.
The program is called the "Sim Subsidy Unlock Program." It is for anyone that purchases a phone for the full retail price from a corporate store or an authorized retailer and pays all of the price upfront.
You need to call customer care, explain that you purchased a phone for full price and request a "remedy request form number." They will then open this request and you then have 7 days to fax the following to the Sim Unlock Team at 1-813-353-6557 :
ATTENTION: SIM UNLOCK TEAM
Full Name
Mobile Number
Email Address
Readable Copy Of Sales Receipt
It takes 24 to 72 hours to process and they will email you instructions to unlock your phone.

Yeah, if you bought the phone full price, then you will not be required to wait any time to unlock the phone. The 3g and 4g frequency will not work well, or at all, because the phone uses 1700 and 2100 for 3g and 4g. The 1700 frequency is exclusive to T-Mobile.
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Unlocking Sim through tmobile...

Very easy process. I bought a phone off contract. Called tmobile, they let me unlock it instantly. Simple process, give them the imei and Sim card number (tmobile), and have an activated Sim from the service you want to use.
Turn phone off, replace Sim with working Sim, turn phone on. Profit.
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So in other words, keep calling back until they quit with the "your device isn't eligible" nonsense.

They didn't tell me that once. They did tell me I could use this phone abroad, on their network. They were very accommodating with me. Bought the phone on Monday, called yesterday, but didn't have phone with me. Called back today and it took 20mins.
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When you buy the V10 form TMO, did they ask you to join any plan?
I got V10 at $630 and on a pay as you go plan.
and they need me to add another $100 to that account and wait for 14 days to unlock.
didn't these apply to you?

I had to get a prepaid plan, which was $40 I believe. Also, I believe they did the unlock as a courtesy since I already am a customer, and have been for several years.
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fghxu said:
When you buy the V10 form TMO, did they ask you to join any plan?
I got V10 at $630 and on a pay as you go plan.
and they need me to add another $100 to that account and wait for 14 days to unlock.
didn't these apply to you?
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yes, same story, I need find a way to unlock the phone. but the TMO put a "device unlock app" on this phone. making it really hard to unlock.
youtube showes ATT version of this phone can be unlocked online pretty easily.
regret bought from TMO

Warrior1975 said:
I had to get a prepaid plan, which was $40 I believe. Also, I believe they did the unlock as a courtesy since I already am a customer, and have been for several years.
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You've been a customer for several years. Those of us that are with other carriers are the people that are having a problem. I would hope if your a established customer they wouldn't give you a hard time about it.
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2 weeks to wait isn't that bad though. You have the prepaid service. They told me originally I had to wait 2 weeks as well due to the buyers remorse deal.
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I was able to get them to unlock it without all of that. Just got it permanently unlocked. No $100 refill. No 14 days. It's only been 2 days since I bought it and I'm already unlocked.
I simply kept asking over and over, said please, asked them to make an exception, explained to them that I know it is not true that the $100 is a requirement because I have had T-Mobile unlock a phone for me without all that in the past. Then I finally asked him to elevate this to his supervisor. That's when the magic happened.
If you aren't getting anywhere, try that. If the rep is being super stubborn, just call back. You'll get someone different.
The key here is to be super nice, polite, sincere, and to use the magical key words: "please make an exception."
I'm telling you. Works every time.

Hi Guys
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But I just got the LG V10 unlocked from T Mobile!!!!!! You guys can do the same too!
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I bought this phone with pre-paid plan. called two days ago, the TMO representative said me three rules to unlock a prepaid phone are:
1) you use the phone with a TMO phone number:
2) passed the 14 days since you first make a call (passed the 14 days return period)
3) add another $100 to your prepaid account.
This is not same thing that I was told before I bought the phone!! Before I bought the phone, I actually called the TMO unlock department to make sure they can unlock the phone for me if I pay the full device only price.
Alright, Here are the steps to unlock the phone today:
1) call the T mobile pre-paid department. tell them I bought the phone for a few days and found out the t-mobile signal is extreme bad at work and also not good at home (this is true to me!). So I want to cancel the pre-paid plan. The TMO representative says if you don't use the phone for 180 days. the account will automatically expired and cancelled.
2) then I said I want to get the $10 on my account refunded because it is tmo's signal issue. I also told them I am more concerned on the device that paid in full can't work with other carriers.
3) the TMO representative asked: if they can unlock the device, will I still concerned about the credit in my prepaid account? I said if you can unlock the phone, I don't care about the $10 in my account.
4) TMO rep then asked my email account and send in the instructions to unlock the phone. followed the email. the phone is instantly unlocked.
The whole process took only about 15~20 minutes. very easy.
tips: try to call in the evenings, their offshore representative is more easy to talk with
hope this helps you guys!
I believe same strategy can be apply to you guys with post-paid plans.
Cheers!

Call tmobile and ask them, it's simple really. Just get a prepaid sim, activate it and put $100 on account. They say wait 7 days, but you can usually call and unlock within instant to 3 days. You can do this with any phone.

clockcycle said:
Call tmobile and ask them, it's simple really. Just get a prepaid sim, activate it and put $100 on account. They say wait 7 days, but you can usually call and unlock within instant to 3 days. You can do this with any phone.
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best and simply way

It still requires you to become a T-Mo customer and pay 100$ in advance though. It's hardly a great method unless you're already on T-Mo or find a way to get back that 100$ credit.
I've tried the "human" factor; called 2 shops and talked with 2 chat operators on support with no success; they haven't granted me any exception even though my cause was legit.
BTW, what would happen in this scenario:
I buy the phone. Put "someones" T-Mo sim-card and that person calls the support right away. Would they unlock the phone assuming that person is on T-Mo for 1+ year?

tersagun said:
It still requires you to become a T-Mo customer and pay 100$ in advance though. It's hardly a great method unless you're already on T-Mo or find a way to get back that 100$ credit.
I've tried the "human" factor; called 2 shops and talked with 2 chat operators on support with no success; they haven't granted me any exception even though my cause was legit.
BTW, what would happen in this scenario:
I buy the phone. Put "someones" T-Mo sim-card and that person calls the support right away. Would they unlock the phone assuming that person is on T-Mo for 1+ year?
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Yes that will work if the person has not unlocked over 2 phones in the previous year. The sim card must be in the phone for at least 2-3 days to register the phone on the person's T-Mobile account. For more details check out the official T-Mobile unlock policy.
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-1588

This looks like a loophole in the t-mobile unlock policy. Has anyone tried that? If the device is associated with a canceled account, the account balance must be zero, including all pending charges
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Crazy to see this whole unlock thing again. It first started out with the galaxy s6 when they introduced that unlocking app. Went through hell with tmobile to get my s6 edge unlocked to work with cricket (AT&T). You cannot unlock any phone anymore without the app and getting around the whole 40 days thing was highly annoying. After I got my phone unlocked, all worked nice and dandy until my phone decided not to make or take calls on lte.. While on lte all incoming calls will not come through and outgoing will not go out. Had to force the phone to stay on hspa for get and receive calls. Sucked. Sold thag phone and just got the international version downside of international version (at least for Samsung) is that the radio isn't optimized so I always have very low bars of lte and often jump to hspa... Most times I have 1 bar of lte. Unless I'm really close to a tower where the signal goes go 3 or 4 bars.
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So I finally got some clarity as to why I can't unlock yet. I have to wait the 14 day demise period?!

I have been struggling to get this phone. Since I'm in Canada I have to either buy from Swappa or ebay and none of the sellers are willing to pick up the phone and ask tmo to unlock it for me which is ridiculous. Is anyone aware of any 3rd party sites that can unlock this device? One's like cellunlocker say they cannot do it due to the tmo unlock app or whatever it is. If anyone knows of a site to make it happen that would save me a lot of headaches and I could just buy one already!

markbencze said:
I have been struggling to get this phone. Since I'm in Canada I have to either buy from Swappa or ebay and none of the sellers are willing to pick up the phone and ask tmo to unlock it for me which is ridiculous. Is anyone aware of any 3rd party sites that can unlock this device? One's like cellunlocker say they cannot do it due to the tmo unlock app or whatever it is. If anyone knows of a site to make it happen that would save me a lot of headaches and I could just buy one already!
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No there is no current vendor or method to unloc other than tmobile directly..
3 months ago there was, all 3rd party vendors with remote access to tmobile activations were able to inject imei and have them made eligible for unlock via the device unlock app.
That loophole has since been closed. It now requires direct contact with tmobile and must meet the requirements.
I just bought walmart tmobile $30 kit activated. Bought $100 refill off ebay for $53. Called for 3 days until my phone showed up on the network. They unlocked after having supervisor authorize exemption.
You can close / cancel the account, after they refund you with a master card with remaining funds. Ymmv

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No there is no current vendor or method to unloc other than tmobile directly..
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Yes there is. It just costs a lot. https://www.unlockbase.com/phone-unlocking-service/tmobile-device-unlock-app-official-unlock/

is it true that all s7 variants will be the same?

hey id be interested to know if this is true or not and is verizon not doing contracts anymore? so well have to buy the phone at the say 6 or 700 dollar price tag?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/how-to/finally-single-hardware-variant-carriers-t3308040

I can't imagine Verizon will ever stop using contracts. That's how they make all of their money, by locking in two-year contracts, and locking in contract extensions. What did change is the subsidizing model for the phones themselves. I didn't think it was possible, but they figured out a way to **** people over a little more. I'm pretty sure the new system is a straight monthly payment plan for the now-unsubsidized phones, in addition to your monthly service charges. You were always paying a lot for the phone over the course of your two-year contract, but now I think you'll end up paying more for it over the longterm.
I'm not very familiar anymore, as I jumped ship to PagePlus. I still use Verizon's network and get their coverage, but I have no contract and don't pay anything to Verizon (directly, anyway), which is how I prefer it.

painiac said:
I can't imagine Verizon will ever stop using contracts. That's how they make all of their money, by locking in two-year contracts, and locking in contract extensions. What did change is the subsidizing model for the phones themselves. I didn't think it was possible, but they figured out a way to **** people over a little more. I'm pretty sure the new system is a straight monthly payment plan for the now-unsubsidized phones, in addition to your monthly service charges. You were always paying a lot for the phone over the course of your two-year contract, but now I think you'll end up paying more for it over the longterm.
I'm not very familiar anymore, as I jumped ship to PagePlus. I still use Verizon's network and get their coverage, but I have no contract and don't pay anything to Verizon (directly, anyway), which is how I prefer it.
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What's page plus? And how are you on verizons network without actually being under them?

Veid71 said:
What's page plus? And how are you on verizons network without actually being under them?
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PagePlus is a mobile carrier that, in contract, has use to part of their network tower. Which i believe it's a tier portion and you're able to (since late 2014) get 4G network coverage. Before then you were able to get 3G coverage on 4G devices by flashing your device. Look for the thread by Viper32 on flashing devices to work with PagePlus and other carriers. He's well known in the XDA community for his accomplishments.
The thread has been closed but here's the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41195565#post41195565

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PagePlus is a mobile carrier that, in contract, has use to part of their network tower. Which i believe it's a tier portion and you're able to (since late 2014) get 4G network coverage. Before then you were able to get 3G coverage on 4G devices by flashing your device. Look for the thread by Viper32 on flashing devices to work with PagePlus and other carriers. He's well known in the XDA community for his accomplishments.
The thread has been closed but here's the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41195565#post41195565
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So you get all the advantages of being on Verizon minus the costly amount of each bill? Are the BLs still locked on their network?

Veid71 said:
So you get all the advantages of being on Verizon minus the costly amount of each bill? Are the BLs still locked on their network?
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Not all of the advantages as you get with Verizon with their incentives. Such as HD calling and their other perks. Other than that it's pretty much worth it being that you can pay monthly without a contract. As far as bootloader goes, if it's a Verizon or AT&T device, the bootloader is still locked no matter who you have for a carrier if it's one of their devices. Google PagePlus and read up on them. Last I knew they had unlimited 7GB of data a month for 69.99. After 7GB you're throttled to 2-3G...

al50 pretty much laid it out.
To break up monopolies, the major carriers were required to open up their networks for use by their competitors. PagePlus is one that uses Verizon's network. The advantage is you get Verizon's 4g coverage, with no contract, for less money each month (it cut my bill in half), and you don't have to pay Verizon. Downsides are less tech support (but we have the xda forum!), it's prepaid (but you can set it up to auto-pay monthly), and you need to bring or buy your own Verizon-compatible phone. I think they offer leasing and possibly payment plans to buy a phone from them, but I'm not certain about the latter.
You just walk in with your phone, buy a SIM card for about $5, pick your plan, and pay up front for the month. Mine is set up for autopay, so I don't have to do anything else.

Verizon bootloader

Now that today is the official release of the pixel 2 and instead of speculations is it confirmed that bootloader can't be unlocked on Verizon edition phones?

Here's the thing..... Unless you're credit is HORRIFIC.... Google store should approve you to finance through them....so what's the point of getting it through Verizon only to be locked?

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Here's the thing..... Unless you're credit is HORRIFIC.... Google store should approve you to finance through them....so what's the point of getting it through Verizon only to be locked?
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I'm buying it outright but the kinda blue color is what I'm thinking of and if the bootloader can't be locked the Google store I go

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Here's the thing..... Unless you're credit is HORRIFIC.... Google store should approve you to finance through them....so what's the point of getting it through Verizon only to be locked?
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It's not Google store that does the financing. It's a third party and they do a credit check, set you up with an account, and then send you all kinds of offers and credit limits. No thanks. I'd rather just do the monthly from Verizon if you don't care about bootloader. If you want to unlock the bl then you have no choice. Either pay outright or finance from a credit agency.

bobby janow said:
It's not Google store that does the financing. It's a third party and they do a credit check, set you up with an account, and then send you all kinds of offers and credit limits. No thanks. I'd rather just do the monthly from Verizon if you don't care about bootloader. If you want to unlock the bl then you have no choice. Either pay outright or finance from a credit agency.
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First.... Symantics. Second, too get that Verizon account you had to go through a credit check and you think Verizon isn't selling your information? Or hasn't already?
It's 6 of 1, half dozen of the other. The monthly finance payment is the same. I did the device payment through Verizon because Best buy offered me $100 gift card and depixel 8 was out to unlock the Verizon bootloader. Otherwise it would have been Google store all the way.
Your statement is just an expansion of every minute detail but bottom line is the same. Synchrony bank vs Verizon financing. Still the same monthly phone payment. If you need to compartmentalize it to justify one way or another doesn't really change the reality

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First.... Symantics. Second, too get that Verizon account you had to go through a credit check and you think Verizon isn't selling your information? Or hasn't already?
It's 6 of 1, half dozen of the other. The monthly finance payment is the same. I did the device payment through Verizon because Best buy offered me $100 gift card and depixel 8 was out to unlock the Verizon bootloader. Otherwise it would have been Google store all the way.
Your statement is just an expansion of every minute detail but bottom line is the same. Synchrony bank vs Verizon financing. Still the same monthly phone payment. If you need to compartmentalize it to justify one way or another doesn't really change the reality
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Well naturally if you don't already have a Verizon account then it would be ridiculous to set one up just to buy this phone. I didn't think we were talking about that but the fact of opening another credit account when one already exists. The discussion though it really about bootloaders. If you have a Verizon account (let's just assume most reading this do) then if you don't need to root the device why not go through Verizon? I'm just not seeing the reason to open another credit account with a limit of 3k, which I believe is the default of Synchrony.
Whether or not any company sells your information is well beyond the scope of this discussion and a debate I'm not willing to get into. But I would like to know if a Verizon model bought from Google is able to be bl unlocked. I haven't seen the definitive answer yet but I'm sure it's coming very soon.

i just got my google pixel 2 XL in the mail. i took out the verizon sim card that was already in there and put in my tmobile sim. i turned on the phone and skipped past all the prompts to get to the home screen. i then went to developer options to see if oem unlock is greyed out and it is. i did a factory reset with tmobile sim in just for good measure but it's still greyed out.

freebee269 said:
i just got my google pixel 2 XL in the mail. i took out the verizon sim card that was already in there and put in my tmobile sim. i turned on the phone and skipped past all the prompts to get to the home screen. i then went to developer options to see if oem unlock is greyed out and it is. i did a factory reset with tmobile sim in just for good measure but it's still greyed out.
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So to clarify.. you bought a Verizon branded phone from Google and not from Verizon right? Did you connect to the network after putting in the TM sim? Those are 2 very important facts.

bobby janow said:
So to clarify.. you bought a Verizon branded phone from Google and not from Verizon right? Did you connect to the network after putting in the TM sim? Those are 2 very important facts.
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i thought the question in the OP was about a verizon bootloader meaning a phone got from verizon. the one i have came from verizon. my tmobile is still active so when i put it in it automatically connected to tmobiles network.

freebee269 said:
i just got my google pixel 2 XL in the mail. i took out the verizon sim card that was already in there and put in my tmobile sim. i turned on the phone and skipped past all the prompts to get to the home screen. i then went to developer options to see if oem unlock is greyed out and it is. i did a factory reset with tmobile sim in just for good measure but it's still greyed out.
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Thank you that's the answer I was looking for...crappy

freebee269 said:
i thought the question in the OP was about a verizon bootloader meaning a phone got from verizon. the one i have came from verizon. my tmobile is still active so when i put it in it automatically connected to tmobiles network.
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Ok, thanks. We have determined that Verizon bought phones are and will be bootloader locked. However, we're trying to determine if Google bought Verizon phones are locked as well.

bobby janow said:
Ok, thanks. We have determined that Verizon bought phones are and will be bootloader locked. However, we're trying to determine if Google bought Verizon phones are locked as well.
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Would be good to know this as well... Maybe even the ones from the pop up stores

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Would be good to know this as well... Maybe even the ones from the pop up stores
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Wasn't the Pixel in the same position and anything Verizon related whether the store or fr Verizon the same?
My money is it will be locked. Why would Verizon go through he trouble for exclusive especially a color if it could be bought elsewhere without the same restrictions?
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bobby janow said:
Well naturally if you don't already have a Verizon account then it would be ridiculous to set one up just to buy this phone. I didn't think we were talking about that but the fact of opening another credit account when one already exists. The discussion though it really about bootloaders. If you have a Verizon account (let's just assume most reading this do) then if you don't need to root the device why not go through Verizon? I'm just not seeing the reason to open another credit account with a limit of 3k, which I believe is the default of Synchrony.
Whether or not any company sells your information is well beyond the scope of this discussion and a debate I'm not willing to get into. But I would like to know if a Verizon model bought from Google is able to be bl unlocked. I haven't seen the definitive answer yet but I'm sure it's coming very soon.
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I hear you... But my point remains the same. 99.9% chance Verizon model gets locked. No reason to believe pixel 2 will be different than the original in that regard. So..... For ZERO difference in price or payment you get an unlocked bootloader or a locked one. jcase has been saying for years.... If you want an unlocked phone... Buy an unlocked phone. He's right. The ability to unlock through an exploit ultimately makes the device less secure for everyone. Me I take the choice to unlock mine.... So I'll go the hassle of synchrony credit to get the phone on device payments

Tidbits said:
Wasn't the Pixel in the same position and anything Verizon related whether the store or fr Verizon the same?
My money is it will be locked. Why would Verizon go through he trouble for exclusive especially a color if it could be bought elsewhere without the same restrictions?
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I can think of one reason. If you bought it from Google then they are not responsible for any incursions into the bootloader or bricks. Even hardware problems they can just say "Hey you didn't buy it from us so call your vendor." I believe that if the bootloader is unlocked somehow on a Verizon model then they can also say you voided your warranty although I don't believe it will be unlocked anytime in the near future.

bobby janow said:
I can think of one reason. If you bought it from Google then they are not responsible for any incursions into the bootloader or bricks. Even hardware problems they can just say "Hey you didn't buy it from us so call your vendor." I believe that if the bootloader is unlocked somehow on a Verizon model then they can also say you voided your warranty although I don't believe it will be unlocked anytime in the near future.
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Then why even go with the exclusive deal and leave it like they did with the 5X/6P? Why was the original pixel intended for Verizon no matter where it was purchased was locked down?
I don't see this time around being different. It'll be locked down and have to wait for an exploit to be found to unlock it.
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318sugarhill said:
I hear you... But my point remains the same. 99.9% chance Verizon model gets locked. No reason to believe pixel 2 will be different than the original in that regard. So..... For ZERO difference in price or payment you get an unlocked bootloader or a locked one. jcase has been saying for years.... If you want an unlocked phone... Buy an unlocked phone. He's right. The ability to unlock through an exploit ultimately makes the device less secure for everyone. Me I take the choice to unlock mine.... So I'll go the hassle of synchrony credit to get the phone on device payments
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I wholeheartedly agree with you. But of course you know there is a "but" in there. If you want an unlocked bl on a payment plan then you have no option at this time and as you state there is no difference in price. (well other than possibly hurting your credit score by taking out another line of credit) But if you wait until black Friday that ZERO difference in price that you speak of will no longer be that. Now you're talking of possibly a $400 difference like they did last year with no trade in, unlike this years "qualified device trade in". But that is obviously speculation and time will tell.
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Tidbits said:
Then why even go with the exclusive deal and leave it like they did with the 5X/6P? Why was the original pixel intended for Verizon no matter where it was purchased was locked down?
I don't see this time around being different. It'll be locked down and have to wait for an exploit to be found to unlock it.
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That is a good point. If the Verizon Pixel / XL 2 bought from Google is indeed locked down then it doesn't make sense. Except for the fact that they may not have enough of them like last year? But if the Google bought Verizon 2 is not locked down then all bets are off. Still waiting on confirmation about that.
Just thought of another thing. What if Google wanted in on the finance action for the Verizon version? Maybe that was part of the exclusivity.

Then Verizon would want some control if they are going to give a piece of that pie. Even more reason as to looking down Pixels intended to Verizon.
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Tidbits said:
Then Verizon would want some control if they are going to give a piece of that pie. Even more reason as to looking down Pixels intended to Verizon.
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I don't know how companies that large operate on things like this. They could even have said to Verizon, we'll give you the exclusive if you give us some selling rights to your network. Could work both ways.

bobby janow said:
I don't know how companies that large operate on things like this. They could even have said to Verizon, we'll give you the exclusive if you give us some selling rights to your network. Could work both ways.
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Verizon isn't going to concede money for anything intended for their Network without locking the bootloader. History has proven this.
Google doesn't need rights to Verizon Network.
Fun fact any manufacturer can make a device to work on Verizon. Verizon even has to open source their standards to their Network. Most companies forgo CDMA standards as it is expensive to license which is paid to Qualcomm. So if anything Verizon often pays for this licensing for device makers for certain things in exchange. Like locked bootloader or slight variations to design or options.
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Pixel 3a SIM Unlock - EE UK

I have just purchased a Pixel 3a which is locked to EE UK and I want to unlock it to use with another carrier. As I'm not an EE customer, how can I go about this? I called EE and they checked the IMEI but won't unlock it for me as it is still new and in contract. Does anyone have any ideas on what I can do?
Thanks

Blaze Falconburger said:
I have just purchased a Pixel 3a which is locked to EE UK and I want to unlock it to use with another carrier. As I'm not an EE customer, how can I go about this? I called EE and they checked the IMEI but won't unlock it for me as it is still new and in contract. Does anyone have any ideas on what I can do?
Thanks
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I'm guessing the price was good, and you will have a problem finding the person who sold it. The carrier is likely to blacklist the phone when the payments on the existing contact are not paid.
It will stay locked to EE until the provider's contract is satisfied. It should not have been sold to you without disclosing the carrier lock/contract. Either return it to the person who sold it, or pay off the carrier contract.

ktmom said:
I'm guessing the price was good, and you will have a problem finding the person who sold it. The carrier is likely to blacklist the phone when the payments on the existing contact are not paid.
It will stay locked to EE until the provider's contract is satisfied. It should not have been sold to you without disclosing the carrier lock/contract. Either return it to the person who sold it, or pay off the carrier contract.
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I know the owner (a non-technical relative) who wouldn't have known about the carrier lock, and I failed to research it thoroughly. EE confirmed they can only unlock it when it has more than 6 months old, so I'll return it, no problem. Shame, I wanted to keep it!