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Disable Google Play Services and Google Services Framework for better battery/privacy

I disabled Google Play Services and Google Services Framework on my Moto G, because I don't need them and the Play Store (I sideload all my apps from the pc).
But there's a big problem: if I disable even one of them, and try to enable the geolocation, it only uses the option "high precision" and, worse then that, it makes all the android framework crash and reboot if I try to open any geolocation-using app (like Google Maps or the camera with geo-ON). Any hint to solve this issue? I really want to get rid of these services, for battery and privacy reasons (in particular, battery improvements are really noticeable!).
UPDATE: I don't get this bug UNLESS I reboot the phone. If I do, I get this issue. If I don't, Maps still works even with these services disabled. I'd like anyway to solve this problem so I don't have to make laborious procedures everytime the phone reboot (I already have to kill 5 motorola processes, i.e. Motocare and Motorola Services ones).
I've attached a pair of screens to clarify my situation. I'm on the STOCK and NO-ROOTED rom.
Thank you very much in advance

So you do need Google services? But don't want to need them, my advice flash stock android ROM without using G-apps
Sent from Sauwny the TL

Durteedee said:
So you do need Google services? But don't want to need them, my advice flash stock android ROM without using G-apps
Sent from Sauwny the TL
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No, I'm on the stock android and not need them. But if I disable them, and I reboot the phone, all the geolocating app I use make the system crash, that's a weird behaviour. To convince yourself, you can disable both the services, restart the phone, open Google Maps and press the location button.
If I don't reboot the phone, instead, Google Maps continues to work even with this two services disabled... that's what confuses me

I basically meant stock and stripped like CM11 without Gapps
Sent from Sauwny the TL

zack.1988 said:
No, I'm on the stock android and not need them. But if I disable them, and I reboot the phone, all the geolocating app I use make the system crash, that's a weird behaviour. To convince yourself, you can disable both the services, restart the phone, open Google Maps and press the location button.
If I don't reboot the phone, instead, Google Maps continues to work even with this two services disabled... that's what confuses me
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Basically, you're going to have to root and flash your phone. You can't remove Google services on stock.
Sent from my XT1034 using Tapatalk

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1715375
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I am one of those who do they everyday work without google stuff and without gapps. I found out several problems:
Some apps do not install because of missing Google Maps API
Some apps fc at startup bacause of missing Maps API or market license check issues
Some apps hardcoded links to several Google Apps and therefor fc or react unexpectedly on certain cases.
No access to Play Store (i tried nearly every alternative market, but nothing is as good for free apps as play store) Meanwhile, F-Droid provides nearly everything you need
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this thread may interest your needs

SamsungAdmire said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1715375
this thread may interest your needs
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Thank you for the intereeting link. Unluckily it regards mainly rooted devices... Pretty interesting though

Let me see if I get this right. You purchased a phone manufactured by Google, using a stock Rom compiled by Google, and you are trying to used Google software (Google Maps or Motorola Camera software- by Google) and you find it surprising that the system crashes after disabling Google's framework? And you are hoping to solve this without rooting or flashing a custom Rom? Seriously?
Sorry for the ironic tone, but you really need to give the idea of making a thread for this a second thought, my friend.

No problem for the ironic tone,but I can ensure you that I'm running Google Maps and (Motorola, not Google!) Camera App geotag WITHOUT having these two services enabled, and they work flawlessy the problem is ONLY when I REBOOT the phone, in which case I must enable and disable again these services in order to make apps with geolocation work without crashing the system. I will attach a screenshot of my running processes in the STOCK and NOROOT rom, and I ensure you that apart this small, boot-time issue, everything works great on my phone (with a great battery boost, I've been able to achieve 9 hours of screen time plus 1hr of calls, what do you think?).
I've about 50 apps installed, I just don't like Motorola and Google ones because they keep running about all the time, sucking out a lot of private data and battery juice

Well I am new to Android and also have/had problems using the moto g. I disabled all Google apps and stuff I could find and the OS is not really stable, I get quite a few hiccups and the phone crashes every now and then. I thought the nova launcher might be the problem, but I also suspect the OS in general.
But unlike you I don't use any Google stuff, so not even maps.
Well, I am selling the phone anyway.

No crashes here apart this Maps tweak, so it sound's really weird... maybed you disabled some critical services. On my device, with kitkat 4.4.2, ART compiler, everything is more than stable. You could try a factory reset or switching from Dalvik to ART too...

Sounds like a gigantic hassle. I don't think these services use much battery at all.

rugerredhawk said:
Sounds like a gigantic hassle. I don't think these services use much battery at all.
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Before saying that, try and let me know
(as soon I will use it in a regoular way - I.e. not gaming and not browsing all the time - I'll post a screenshot proving the 9 hours of screen time, that I wasn't able to reach with Google services enabled)

Ive had 9 hours screen time with google services enabled but that was just doing light stuff ,got 2.5 days out of my last battery charge but that was with only 5 hours screen time but mine is rooted and greenified now.
Cant think of a solution to your problem sorry,guess you will just have to avoid rebooting.

yes, I guess so...

I need to reinstall Google play services on my moto g how do I do this?

This thread is over a year old and totally unrelated to your question. Searching the forums is my advice because you are pretty unlikely to find an answer to your question by posting in this particular thread

[Q] Google play services causes battery drain on moto g

Hii everyone i am using moto g xt1033 with stock rom, unrooted,bootloader locked..i am having noticeable battery drain on my moto g when my phone is idle..i found that google play services(google location service) is causing the battery drain..i tried to force stop but doesnt work..just disabling the app works...but the google play services is necessary for google apps like youtube,playstore,gmail etc..so plzz give me any solution to stop this unnecessary battery drain...thank you

On Un rooted the only option you can try is
1. Disconnect Internet
2. Uninstall Google play services update
3. Clear cache via recovery
4. Connect to Internet and use your phone normally.. Let Google play services update automatically..
This might help

madman said:
On Un rooted the only option you can try is
1. Disconnect Internet
2. Uninstall Google play services update
3. Clear cache via recovery
4. Connect to Internet and use your phone normally.. Let Google play services update automatically..
This might help
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i had tried to uninstall google play service update...then the battery drain stops but the thing is many google apps require new version of google play services to work..that is the reason i am so irritated with this thing..i tried many things but nothing works

Can you point out the battery drain so we can see if it is abnormal? Your screenshots only show that it is running, which means nothing since it is always running on all devices.
Upon reading your post it appears some app is constantly pinging for location. My solution is to either find the rogue app or simply turn off location (gps).

me_is_rushin said:
Can you point out the battery drain so we can see if it is abnormal? Your screenshots only show that it is running, which means nothing since it is always running on all devices.
Upon reading your post it appears some app is constantly pinging for location. My solution is to either find the rogue app or simply turn off location (gps).
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i do not use gps its most of the tym turned off..and currently i have disabled google play services so i cant post screenshot regarding battery drain..but the point is that google location services always keeps running in background taking much RAM and i think this service is generating unnecessary events for location,which results in waking up the cpu frequently,wasting cpu cycles which results in battery drain during the phone is idle..and i also downloaded an app namely GserviceFix but this app also didnt work for me..so any suggestion

Use greenify pro

Google play services will always be running.

I faced this issue some time back.. I had to root my device and use AppOps to disable wake ups from Google play services..

amolgosavi said:
Use greenify pro
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i dont think it will work,coz i am running stock rom without root..and no xposed..well i vl gv it a try..thanks

madman said:
I faced this issue some time back.. I had to root my device and use AppOps to disable wake ups from Google play services..
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well thanks for your support...i will wait till official lollipop update arrives..hope lollipop will fix this issue

me_is_rushin said:
Google play services will always be running.
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sorry to say but i think you are not aware of this issue.

zahid111 said:
sorry to say but i think you are not aware of this issue.
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No I don't think you understand. All android devices that have google services will have Google Play Services running at All Times. Right now my running apps screen has 6 processes and 10 services running. Much more than yours.

me_is_rushin said:
No I don't think you understand. All android devices that have google services will have Google Play Services running at All Times. Right now my running apps screen has 6 processes and 10 services running. Much more than yours.
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i know that but some services are not necessary like location services it keeps always running and drains your battery..and you cant force stop that..this issue was not before Google play services version 6..when it got updated to version 6 then this problem arises..you can check process stats in developer options..than you will came to know its not normal. it keeps running all the time.dont you ever noticed battery drain during night when your phone is in idle mode..which version of google play services are you using???are you rooted or not..well i think @madman will also try to help you make understand...he is a senior member here and well knowing...

update google play services

K1Ng0r.fTw~ said:
update google play services
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its updated to the latest version..but problem still exists

zahid111 said:
its updated to the latest version..but problem still exists
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use greenify download it from play store.

K1Ng0r.fTw~ said:
use greenify download it from play store.
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i am using greenify cant you see in the screenshot..without root and xposed framework greenify will not allow to hibernate system apps..

GServiceFix
zahid111 said:
i am using greenify cant you see in the screenshot..without root and xposed framework greenify will not allow to hibernate system apps..
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Search one app on play store name "GServiceFix" hope it will help
Hit thanks if it helps.

K1Ng0r.fTw~ said:
Search one app on play store name "GServiceFix" hope it will help
Hit thanks if it helps.
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bro i tried that app also and used that several times but didnt work..

Is there any solution for that? Im experiencing battery drain on 5.1.1., then on Euphoria-OS, no matter the version (20.08.2015 now).
I can use private setting to blok waking up and preventing a sleep for Google Play Service but then I have error message "google services stopped" every other second.

Google Play Services battery drain fix - New version 8.x

Hi dudes!
There exists a new version from the Google Play Services. The battery drain (wakelocks) are gone. The older versions from play services (v7.x) takes 7-15% battery on my S5 and now with the new version: Max 1%, something nothing!
Here you can download it: http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/google-play-services/
Before you install the new version, uninstall your old Play Services with root completely from your device. After the reinstall you can normally update every time.
Scroll down for all versions, because every smartphone needs another version (arm, arm64, dpi etc.)
To figure out the right version of Google Play services for your Android device, go to Settings -> Apps -> Google Play services, and look at the last 3 numbers in the parentheses. You'll see something like -XYZ where:
* X defines Android version:
0 for Android = 6.0 after
7 for Android 5.0
8 for Android TV
* Y defines CPU architecture:
1 for armeabi
3 for armeabi-v7a
4 for arm64-v8a
7 for x86
* Z defines DPI:
0 for universal
2 for 160
4 for 240
6 for 320
8 for 480
Important Notes:
It seems that -4YZ builds got split into -2YZ for Lollipop and -4YZ for Marshmallow with Google Play services v8. If you were on -4YZ before, you should now install -2YZ in Lollipop and -4YZ in Marshmallow.
Looks like -8YZ builds are for Android TV.
Examples for Play Services 8.x:
-014 for Android

What if I flash open_gapps-arm-5.1-stock-20150910.zip and after flashing the zip, I installs above apk ? Will it work ?
Thanks.

What if I flash open_gapps-arm-5.1-stock-20150910.zip and after flashing the zip, I installs above apk ? Will it work ?
Thanks.

After flashing the newest gapps, check the Play Services version in your app settings. It can be already installed after flashing the newest gapps, I don't know.

Ok. Thanks for reply. I am just going to flash the above gapps and if it is not what you have posted, then should I install above apk please ? Suppose it is different one, then can I install above please ?

Yes that's correct

I noticed that my phone had automatically updated Google Play Services to 8.1.14. Somehow. I turned off all the automatic updates I could find, but I did do a manual update on all my Google Play apps a couple days ago. It must have happened then.
I had a bigggggg problem with the wakelock bug keeping my phone from sleeping and draining the battery very quickly. When my phone goes to sleep properly, I get very good standby time. With the bug it drains almost completely overnight.
So far it's been okay, but every previous time I thought the problem was fixed, it came back after a couple days.
I will post again in a couple days with my findings.
Thank you for posting this update.

Please have a look at APKMirror. There is a new version 8.1.15 available.

Solvin said:
Please have a look at APKMirror. There is a new version 8.1.15 available.
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I don't know how it's doing it, but my phone is updating itself. It's now at 8.1.15 (2250156-034). Besides, I don't see my version 034 on that site. I could have sworn I turned off all automatic updates everywhere on my phone. Does anyone know how this is happening?
Anyhoo, BTW, I'm running Kit Kat 4.4.2 on an HTC Desire 601, with HTC Sense 5.5. My Google Play Store says 5.8.8.
It's now gone about two days without the wakelock bug happening. I have not yet tried turning location services back on. I think I will wait a few more days until I answer your poll. It looks like someone else is still having an issue, unfortunately.

BillyHW said:
I don't know how it's doing it, but my phone is updating itself. It's now at 8.1.15 (2250156-034). Besides, I don't see my version 034 on that site. I could have sworn I turned off all automatic updates everywhere on my phone. Does anyone know how this is happening?
Anyhoo, BTW, I'm running Kit Kat 4.4.2 on an HTC Desire 601, with HTC Sense 5.5. My Google Play Store says 5.8.8.
It's now gone about two days without the wakelock bug happening. I have not yet tried turning location services back on. I think I will wait a few more days until I answer your poll. It looks like someone else is still having an issue, unfortunately.
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Please try this: Uninstall Play Services with root and than reinstall it.

Going to install 238 and will try and post my results when i have a proper sample size (or issues).
I am currently on Galaxy S5 w KLTEUSC Fusion Rom 6, Android 5.1.1, GPlay Services 7.xxx.438
Hope i understood the notes properly - as I read them, i should install 238 because the 438 is now exclusive to Android 6 (Marshmellow), yes?
Thank you OP!

MichPRich said:
Going to install 238 and will try and post my results when i have a proper sample size (or issues).
I am currently on Galaxy S5 w KLTEUSC Fusion Rom 6, Android 5.1.1, GPlay Services 7.xxx.438
Hope i understood the notes properly - as I read them, i should install 238 because the 438 is now exclusive to Android 6 (Marshmellow), yes?
Thank you OP!
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Yes that's correct. But please Uninstall the old Play Services with root and than install the new version. That's Better and more helpful.

I have an old Galaxy Player (yp-g1) on I put few days ago cm11, and the battery was extremmely drained by GP services... I try this, I hope solves the problem, thanks!!

Thanks, hope this finally fixes the wakelock issues. Its been plaguing users for faaaaaaaar too long! I just installed over the existing play services, but rebooted and wiped dalvik/cache and also cleared data from play services. Will monitor over the next few days.

Here is what I have discovered will help with Battery drains when it comes to Google Services and I will share this with you
You need to get disableService, make a backup, and then disable a lot of unnecessary services.
In my case I disable
fit*
wearable*
cast*
chrome*
kids*
games*
The below 2 services will Drain your battery badly, but if you need them, do not disable them.
GoogleLocationManager
GoogleLocationSevice
FusedLocation
Geo*
I Leave NetworkLocation service on.
Please bear in mind that I do not use Google Maps, I use GPS based maps only.
If you use Google Maps, you can use process of elimination with those services but in my experience, leaving NetworkLocationService on was all I needed. GPS based maps are better because you do not need data, however oyu do need a large sized SDcard to store maps you have downloaded.
I also disable:
Analytics*
Ad*
* = Means anything related to the words preceding the *star - You can search in DisableService and it will show you all the services related to the key word.
In your ROM, Privacy Settings > Privacy Guard > Advanced > Location > Disable wakeup and keepawake for Google Play Services.
Google has simply increased it's bloat and will still be using GPS/Wifi/NFC/Data and Anything else it can use to connect whether you are in or out of range of any data services and will continue to cause Wakelocks.
The only way to keep Google from draining your battery is to manually manage everything on Custom Roms. If you are Stock and not rooted, best hope that your Manufacturer has taken the necessary steps to prevent battery drains. Most manufacturers do include some sort of settings to keep Google Services from causing problems.
TIP: If you want to move Google Services back into /System/Priv-App : You must go into /Data/App and into the gms directory, and copy the Libs first. Give the Libs the same permissions as they are in /System/Priv-App (644) rwrr
And then Rename Base.apk to PrebuiltGmsCore.apk or GmsCore.apk (whichever) and copy it to /System/Priv-App/GmsCore (or folder where your Google Services is) - Overwrite, and give the same permissions 644 rwrr - Now you can delete it from /Data/App and reboot the device. This will free up space on your data partition. Wipe your Dalvik cache to be sure.
Remember : Only disable services you do not need. If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask, I am here to help.

Pretty nooby question that i've been meaning to ask for quite a while now; in privacy gaurd, is "ignored" the equivalent of "disable" / "disallow"? Process of elimination tells me yes lol, just sort of confusing wording..

Okay guys. Another day without Google Play Services wakelocks. I'm beginning to think the problem has finally been fixed. I'm getting great standby time again, and this is awesome when everything works like it's supposed to.
However, it needs to be said that this whole sad affair has me thinking about iOS for my next phone. Battery life should be something sacred, and a bug that keeps your phone awake when there's no goddamn reason for it to be awake is like the worst possible thing.
What if you were counting on your phone to be there in an emergency and then when you went to use it you found that a wakelock had drained the whole thing?
And how on earth did it take so long to fix? And how can I be sure now that it will never happen again? I will never have confidence in my phone again. The only way to be sure you'll have battery when you need it is to turn it off.
(I also am not pleased with the whole Android OS update mess with the manufacturers and carriers. My phone is just a little over a year old and it's not even getting a single +1.0 OS update. That's pretty lame.)
Anyhoo, thus endeth my rant. Other than this one glaring issue, my budget phone is pretty awesome considering.
P.S. I haven't yet tried re-enabling location services yet. I will try that tomorrow and then maybe vote on the poll after that.
P.S.S. I am sad to see that a few people are still voting that their wakelock problem has not been fixed with the latest update of Google Play Services. I wonder what is causing the problem to persist for you guys.
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Please try this: Uninstall Play Services with root and than reinstall it.
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Well I don't want to root my phone and start messing around with **** if the problem is gone? I'm good with computers but not with smart phones.
What would uninstalling and reinstalling accomplish exactly?
Besides my version "034" isn't listed on that APK site.

Another day without Google Play Services wakelocks.
I tried turning location services back on today too.
I feel like I have my phone back again.
I still have to try turning auto-sync back on. (What does that do again, exactly?)
I also have all automatic software updates turned off everywhere I could find them. I think I may keep those turned off just because they are so effing annoying.

Okay, so I finally voted in the poll after a week without wakelocks from Google Play Services. The issue seems to be resolved for me, knock on wood. Thank you to Solvin for the original post.
Unfortunately from the poll results it looks like half of us are still having problems. I wonder what the problem is for those still experiencing wakelocks.

Spoke too soon. Wakelocks are back. F-ck you Google. I regret not getting an iPhone.

How to block Google Play Services from automatically updating

Hi all, hope all is well. I encountered a problem on my OPO and I didn't manage to solve it, even after searching and reading relevant threads on this forum.
Currently my OPO (not rooted) is running Android 4.4.4 (stock Cyanogen OS 11.0). I am still running Android 4.4.4 as when Lollipop was issued many complained of battery drain issues so I didn't update. Yesterday, Google Play Services updated automatically to version 9.0.82. After the update Chrome, Play Store, Gmail and Google Now are exiting as soon as I try to use them. Thus, I decided to uninstall the Google Play Services updates and I manually installed a version (8.7.03) that doesn't cause the problems mentioned. However, this morning when I connected to WiFi, Google Play Services updated and the problems restarted.
Does anybody know how I can prevent Google Play Services from automatically updating please? If this is not possible, I am considering updating to Marshmallow with Cyanogen OS 13. Is it possible to update to the latter without updating to Lollipop please? Moreover, does the OPO suffer from major bugs/ issues when running Marshmallow please?
p.s: previously I denied both "keep awake" and "wake up" in the Privacy Guard menu of Google Play Services as it fixed the message "Unfortunately Google Play Services has stopped". Yet, this message is appearing again every time I connect to WiFi.
Many thanks, much appreciated!

Hi,
I've got a high battery drain problem with the latest Google Play Services (cmasystemupdateservices causing the wavelock).
There are a couple of reddits about this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus/comments/4jmw74/cmasystemupdateservice_wakelock/
https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidQue..._is_cmasystemupdateservice_its_preventing_my/
but no solution.
I'm running 4.4.4 as well, but my wife's Lollipop phone doesn't have this issue. Given that its an update service causing the issue I wonder if this is Google's way of getting us to upgrade!
If this was affecting all Android phones I'd expect to see more of an outcry about it.
Regards.

I too have this problem. Now have to rolled back to stock play services. Any solution?

Unchecked all in Google play settings

@pda1ey thanks for the Reddit links! Unfortunately, as you mentioned they don't offer solutions to our problems.
@vl319 did Google Play Services autoupdate even though you rolled back to stock version please?
@drmuruga I think Google Play Services still autoupdates with those settings unticked.
Thanks to all for your feedback hope we find a solution.

After i rolled back to stock version, it doesn't auto update until now. But u will keep getting message saying apps wont run until play services is updated.... But it is fine for me.. I tried to reset app preference, disable greenify, amplify, privacy guard but none of these work. Probably we have to wait for new update or reinstall the device

vl319 said:
After i rolled back to stock version, it doesn't auto update until now. But u will keep getting message saying apps wont run until play services is updated.... But it is fine for me.. I tried to reset app preference, disable greenify, amplify, privacy guard but none of these work. Probably we have to wait for new update or reinstall the device
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I will follow your suggestion and roll back to stock Play Services. When I manually install Google Play Services 8.7.03 it automatically updates to 9.0.82 after a couple of hours. When you had version 9.0.82 were Gmail and Chrome force closing? Thanks!

I experience same problem on my wife's 4.4. cm and on my 5.1.1 android. Google play services automaticily updated to 9.0 and since then all google related apps is force closing. I noticed, that if I uncheck everything under google play services in privacy guard, apps will work, but then my phone's battery will go down the drain . Is it possible, that Google play services update only, when I open Play store and not completely automaticly?

solidstate94 said:
I will follow your suggestion and roll back to stock Play Services. When I manually install Google Play Services 8.7.03 it automatically updates to 9.0.82 after a couple of hours. When you had version 9.0.82 were Gmail and Chrome force closing? Thanks!
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I am using official COS13 and its stock version is 8.3.01, older than 8.7.03 and it doesn't auto update to new version. and i have no problem of syncing contact, calendar, keep and etc.

@vl319 my stock version is version 5. That's why I tried solving the issue by updating manually to 8.7.03. Unfortunately, my stock version is not compatible with the Apps I use. Thanks for the clarification!
@ircman maybe you can update to a newer version of Google Play Services on your phone to solve the issue. For instance, update to 9.0.83 or 9.0.82. Another user (drmuruga) in a previous post suggested to turn off automatic updates in the Play Store. However, I don't know if it works because I haven't tried it myself.

solidstate94 said:
@vl319 my stock version is version 5. That's why I tried solving the issue by updating manually to 8.7.03. Unfortunately, my stock version is not compatible with the Apps I use. Thanks for the clarification!
@ircman maybe you can update to a newer version of Google Play Services on your phone to solve the issue. For instance, update to 9.0.83 or 9.0.82. Another user (drmuruga) in a previous post suggested to turn off automatic updates in the Play Store. However, I don't know if it works because I haven't tried it myself.
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Sorry, I wasn't exact, now I am using 9.0.83. The problem apeared when the Google Play Services updated automaticaly to 9.0.83. Until that moment the phone and all the apps were working flawlesly. I belive that is something wrong with the newest version of Google Play Services, or that they don't want us to block things like Keep Awake, Location, Wake up, Auto Start (this things drains battery really fast).
Probably the only solution for now is to downgrade Google Play Services, and to somehow block automatic updates for Google Play Services.

@ircman as regards blocking the things you mentioned, I think you still can block them if you want.
Moreover, you can manually uninstall the updates of Google Play Services to temporarily solve the problem. Then either stick with the stock Play Services (vl319 clarified in a previous post that it won't auto update but some Apps might not work) or install a version of Play Services that doesn't cause problems as I did. However, after a few hours it auto updates and the problems start again. Thus, you need to repeat this process (I am repeating this process on average twice daily).
If anybody comes up with a permanent solution or has some advice, I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!

Hello everyone
I have the same problem you exactly with "google play service" in 9.0.82 release.
it drains my battery and my GPS connection has become very very slow (over 5 min) while with the 8.7.03 release I had no worries.
I am also in version 4.4.4 and I have my wifi, my connection and my GPS data which are off all the time except when I need them.
If anyone has a solution I'm interested

bion59 said:
Hello everyone
I have the same problem you exactly with "google play service" in 9.0.82 release.
it drains my battery and my GPS connection has become very very slow (over 5 min) while with the 8.7.03 release I had no worries.
I am also in version 4.4.4 and I have my wifi, my connection and my GPS data which are off all the time except when I need them.
If anyone has a solution I'm interested
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My problem with Google Play Services 9.0.82 is not related to battery drain and GPS. On my OPO 9.0.82 is causing some Google Apps to FC (as I explained in the first post).
If your OPO is rooted there are some solutions on this forum on how to block Google Play Services from updating. tc

solidstate94 said:
My problem with Google Play Services 9.0.82 is not related to battery drain and GPS. On my OPO 9.0.82 is causing some Google Apps to FC (as I explained in the first post).
If your OPO is rooted there are some solutions on this forum on how to block Google Play Services from updating. tc
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OK thank you for your answer.
I actually did a search on the forum and I find an application that seems to do the job is "disable service" findable on the play store.

Please update to latest play services 9.2.xx. It solves the issue

vl319 said:
Please update to latest play services 9.2.xx. It solves the issue
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Thanks for letting us know! Just upgraded manually to 9.2.56, till now everything seems fine. I wish there is a method which can block Play Services from auto updating.

solidstate94 said:
Thanks for letting us know! Just upgraded manually to 9.2.56, till now everything seems fine. I wish there is a method which can block Play Services from auto updating.
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I know there is a feature in titanium backup that allows apps to detach it from the market. Wonder if it works for play services.

Google Playstore 16.7.21

I am noticing that in the playstore latest version 16.7.21 My apps & games tab, the beta apps tab has now disappeared or been removed.
Is anyone else experiencing this?

I have been having a back and forth email fight with Google regarding their proprietary Play Store software which for some unknown reason keeps dropping my Beta Apps List in My Apps and Games.
For the last 4 emails they keep telling me that my firmware is in BETA and therefore Samsung Problem . And i keep telling them its NOT. And since the Play Store is owned and created maintained by Google that this is a bug and their responsibility.
However they say its NOT.
Why does nobody in the world these days have the sense to understand and listen to the customer.

Darkat70 said:
I have been having a back and forth email fight with Google regarding their proprietary Play Store software which for some unknown reason keeps dropping my Beta Apps List in My Apps and Games.
For the last 4 emails they keep telling me that my firmware is in BETA and therefore Samsung Problem . And i keep telling them its NOT. And since the Play Store is owned and created maintained by Google that this is a bug and their responsibility.
However they say its NOT.
Why does nobody in the world these days have the sense to understand and listen to the customer.
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Seems that the only way I can fix the issue is to clear data and cache from play services and cache from playstore.
Annoying though, its gotta be done daily or twice a day on occasions.
Have the latest playstore version 18 and play services. Dosent make any difference whatsoever.
Google need to find the glitch and repair it.

Is play store showing uncertified at the bottom of play store settings?

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Is play store showing uncertified at the bottom of play store settings?
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It's certified and updated to the latest version and latest play services.
It's strange because the other Google Account on the phone doesn't do it. Which is why I think it is something to do with Google and an issue with my account.
I had an issue with my carriers data usage app, it would give me errors and not let me use it. That turned out to be an issue with my account on their end.

Have you tried removing the problem account, rebooting then adding the account back?

ktmom said:
Have you tried removing the problem account, rebooting then adding the account back?
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Yes tried that, which was one of Google's suggested fixes but did not work.
But for some reason Google are adamant that my firmware is beta, even though I provided them a screenshot. They keep mentioning its Samsung at fault, i don't see how when it's Google Playstore and /or Google play services or account server at fault.

I think that the ROM framework can affect play services. There were plenty of issues on custom ROMs on my old N6 back in the day.
The fact that Google was stating the firmware is in beta was what made me wonder if the device was certified.

ktmom said:
I think that the ROM framework can affect play services. There were plenty of issues on custom ROMs on my old N6 back in the day.
The fact that Google was stating the firmware is in beta was what made me wonder if the device was certified.
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The last thing to try is a factory reset, but then I have to mess around with Google Pay, which always is a royal Pain in the butt my bank is usable on Pay, but i always have to contact them to set up. My other Bank just asks to login to the app then approves it.
Might stick with cleaning data and cache and see if anything gets fixed.