Is it just me or does the Ambient Display on this device have a pretty high battery drain?
AccuBattery reports 14% in 9 hours screen off drain with 91% of the time being deep sleep.
I'm coming from an S8 where the AOD drain is barely noticeable.
Is this normal or am I missing something?
Velcorn said:
Is it just me or does the Ambient Display on this device have a pretty high battery drain?
AccuBattery reports 14% in 9 hours screen off drain with 91% of the time being deep sleep.
I'm coming from an S8 where the AOD drain is barely noticeable.
Is this normal or am I missing something?
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No idea i never have it on. Just turn it off.
Unstroofy said:
No idea i never have it on. Just turn it off.
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I just did and will see if that gets rid of the drain. Was just one of the minor reasons to get the Pixel over the Zenfone 6 ^^'
Velcorn said:
I just did and will see if that gets rid of the drain. Was just one of the minor reasons to get the Pixel over the Zenfone 6 ^^'
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So how did it go?
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If you turn the phone face down (or otherwise block the proximity sensor) the screen completely turns off. So it is pretty easy to control when the always on screen is on or off. I turn my phone face down overnight and usually see a 2% reduction in battery over 7-8 hours.
I think with the always on screen on, I see a drop of between 1-1.5% per hour on average. But my phone is also having more notifications and other activity that time of day too which keeps it from deep sleep.
tl/dr - you can leave the "always on screen" setting on all the time. If you don't need the screen and want to save battery, simply turn your phone face down and the screen shuts down completely after about 10 seconds.
Thanks for the input, everyone, I now settled with leaving it on and turning it face down over night or whenever I don't need it.
It just seems that this phone has a significantly higher standby drain than my former S8 in general. Already checking for some wakelocks or other causes for drains with BBS, but maybe it's just normal and I'm being paranoid. It's not an abnormally high drain either, guess I'm just spoiled ^^'
You don't have to put your phone face down. You just need to disable the ambient display and wake it up temporarily by double-tapping on the screen of lifting the phone, whenever you want to check the time or notifications.
Velcorn said:
I just did and will see if that gets rid of the drain. Was just one of the minor reasons to get the Pixel over the Zenfone 6 ^^'
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I turned off ambient display also and switched over to double tap the screen to see my notifications without pressing the power button or unlocking.
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I don't understand, the meaning of ambient display is to turn on screen for like, 2 seconds after we receive important notification and that happens maybe 3-4 times in a day, thats 8 seconds of having screen on, and why does that drain battery? ..
Because we have LED and not amoled displays.
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Because we have LED and not amoled displays.
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But still if not all pixels turn off on black screen, its still only 2 seconds of screen being on...
I'm sure there is also some process that's always running that contributes to the drain. If you look at the specs for the N6, its standby time is cut by something like 80hrs when you have ambient display turned on, and it has an AMOLED display. So there has to be something more to it than just the display.
I believe the battery drain comes from a core staying awake waiting for input (notification).
2 seconds of screen on uses more battery than 0 seconds of screen on.
Also its "listening" for "pick up" events.
rootSU said:
2 seconds of screen on uses more battery than 0 seconds of screen on.
Also its "listening" for "pick up" events.
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Is lollipop ambient display different than one in paranoid Android? They have same thing but I never heard anyone from saying it drains battery
No idea. But anything that turns on display will use battery. Kinda obvious really.
Hi,
I have the s2 classic and I love it. I have read on CNET that they were able to get nearly 3 days of battery life before charging. I can't get 24hrs of usage before charging. I have changed the brightness to 5 (the screen does shut off and is not on the always on mode), I shut off wifi and NFC . I am not using it all that much, what is everyone else getting on average? I just want to know if I might have a lemon.
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APT_ART
Hey @APT-ART , You can't try to turn off the automatic heart sensor for longer work on battery. Also the black background (pure black, so pixel are not lighted at all for that part of the face) will help to improve it.
For me it depends on how many notifications there are during the day, what applications I am using and how I charged it last time (I recommend to clean both the back part of the watch and the wireless charger as well). Also for some faces the brightness level of 2 or 3 should be enough to use it as a normal watch WiFi on but NFC off, also the automatic heart sensor turned on but less regular setting.
The battery stands for me for about 30 - 40 hours. But for the first two times I've got only about 16-18. Just let it discharged to 0%, then charge it to 100% without turning on. Good luck!
I keep my brightness at 3, keep always on watch face turned on, tilt to wake off, heart rate off, wifi on, nfc off, S voice watch face listening off, get probably 50 notifications per day and after a 16 to 18 hour day have about 40 to 50% battery left.
I think S Voice watch face listening, higher brightness, and tilt to wake (especially at a higher brightness) does the most damage to battery life.
KubixRevan said:
Hey @APT-ART , You can't try to turn off the automatic heart sensor for longer work on battery. Also the black background (pure black, so pixel are not lighted at all for that part of the face) will help to improve it.
For me it depends on how many notifications there are during the day, what applications I am using and how I charged it last time (I recommend to clean both the back part of the watch and the wireless charger as well). Also for some faces the brightness level of 2 or 3 should be enough to use it as a normal watch WiFi on but NFC off, also the automatic heart sensor turned on but less regular setting.
The battery stands for me for about 30 - 40 hours. But for the first two times I've got only about 16-18. Just let it discharged to 0%, then charge it to 100% without turning on. Good luck!
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Really good tip, I am going to let the watch discharge to 0% and see what happens. thanks! :good:
With very light usage I can easily get 3+ days. I turned off nfc and WiFi. I left on the heart rate scanning. I use it as a stand alone watch at work since I can't use my phone. I have the brightness at 3 and ambient display off / tilt to wake on. Not ideal usage for some, but it's a good setup for me.
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I'm assuming everyone here has the non 4g version and that's why you guys are getting pretty good battery life. Got my S2 yesterday with 4g and fully charged overnight. Took off charger and about 8 hours later the S2 is at 38%. Not happy but going to try that discharge tip. To see if it helps. Also may have to tweak some other settings. I had the Gear S 4g and it didn't drain that much. I can usually get a days worth out of it.
you need several cycles to really know what kind of battery life you can expect; one days worth wont tell you a thing
How do you change the heart sensor setting?
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phxtravis said:
How do you change the heart sensor setting?
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You can change it by going into the s health settings on the watch. Options for auto heart rate are frequent, moderate, or off. These settings are separate from if you actually go in and start and exercise. I have my auto turned off (to conserve battery) but when I go in and actually start an exercise session on the watch, it will monitor heart rate. The auto heartrate is just for random monitoring throughout the day....having it set to off will not impact monitoring when you start an exercise.
So as you can see in the top of the screen shot my htc u11 went from 80% to 67% in 8 hours even though it was on standby with Wi-Fi turned off and on airplane mode and with also powersaving mode and hibernation manager.. I mean like what the hell.. Someonen tell me how this is possible. This is rhe worst standby i ever had on any phone
Btw my u11 is running the latest update
adi.97 said:
So as you can see in the top of the screen shot my htc u11 went from 80% to 67% in 8 hours even though it was on standby with Wi-Fi turned off and on airplane mode and with also powersaving mode and hibernation manager.. I mean like what the hell.. Someonen tell me how this is possible. This is rhe worst standby i ever had on any phone
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Please post battery usage details while in aereo mode to see who is responsible of this battery drain.
aferende said:
Please post battery usage details while in aereo mode to see who is responsible of this battery drain.
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It shows nothing
adi.97 said:
It shows nothing
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That's not battery usage...I know you're a newbie here, but you should know the basic battery information comes from phone settings.
Have u updated to 1.27? It fixes the standby drain. Used to have 60-70% drain overnight to 30+%
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That's not battery usage...I know you're a newbie here, but you should know the basic battery information comes from phone settings.
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I know that but the phone settings will show usage for like over a day or so unless i charge it to 100%..
adi.97 said:
I know that but the phone settings will show usage for like over a day or so unless i charge it to 100%..
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If you really want to determine which app drains your battery, a full charge is recommended.
Otherwise use Gsam and use adb to enable advanced mode, add a rule for "since now".
calvinfoo said:
Have u updated to 1.27? It fixes the standby drain. Used to have 60-70% drain overnight to 30+%
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Wow 30% overnight? That doesn't sound right either...I probably lose 0.5%/hour on 1.13...my phone doesn't go into airplane mode over night either, I just turn off WiFi anr 4g...
Adi - given your countless threads of issues you've had so far, why haven't you returned the phone or gone to a help centre or something...it seems you have one problem after another...
I meant 30% of total stanby drain. Not 30% loss
adi.97 said:
So as you can see in the top of the screen shot my htc u11 went from 80% to 67% in 8 hours even though it was on standby with Wi-Fi turned off and on airplane mode and with also powersaving mode and hibernation manager.. I mean like what the hell.. Someonen tell me how this is possible. This is rhe worst standby i ever had on any phone
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If you're really serious about putting an HTC phone aside and bot touching it for several hours you should use the extreme power saving mode. It will still alert for calls. I come back after 12 hours to just a few percentage less.
That's why I sold my HTC U11, lost 5% an hour on cell standby, very poor battery life on this phone, the dongle stopped working and cracked the curved edge glass. Good camera though, and Iike HTC Sense. Bought a Moto Z Play, amazing battery life, easily 2 day battery life, has a headphone jack and a great Amoled display. Love this phone and nearly stock android.
adi.97 said:
So as you can see in the top of the screen shot my htc u11 went from 80% to 67% in 8 hours even though it was on standby with Wi-Fi turned off and on airplane mode and with also powersaving mode and hibernation manager.. I mean like what the hell.. Someonen tell me how this is possible. This is rhe worst standby i ever had on any phone
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Ad servers running in the background. That's what murders battery on all android phones.
Fellow members please check out my video of my 24Hrs Later Review of the HTC U11 Plus, please enjoy and feel free to share it with others: Mod Edit
It's interesting how's the battery drain with always on display on lcd 6. Ain't the whole screen dimly lit
palimatix said:
It's interesting how's the battery drain with always on display on lcd 6. Ain't the whole screen dimly lit
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The battery drain is minimal with AOD on but I use the option where the AOD only shows when I pick up the phone
ramheer said:
The battery drain is minimal with AOD on but I use the option where the AOD only shows when I pick up the phone
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Hi ramheer
Do you agree with devsk assessment of the AOD that the battery drains at approximately 2% per hour with it on?
Not sure if he has it always on or just motion like yourself...
wilpang said:
Hi ramheer
Do you agree with devsk assessment of the AOD that the battery drains at approximately 2% per hour with it on?
Not sure if he has it always on or just motion like yourself...
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Well with mine in standby I get a total of 2% drain over 7hrs at night
ramheer said:
Well with mine in standby I get a total of 2% drain over 7hrs at night
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Thanks for the reply
I've just started to use the phone after all the set up and transferring sim over and I started with 100/99% before bed and it drained 10%.
Maybe I need to let the battery settle and try without the AOD tonight as a test.
wilpang said:
Thanks for the reply
I've just started to use the phone after all the set up and transferring sim over and I started with 100/99% before bed and it drained 10%.
Maybe I need to let the battery settle and try without the AOD tonight as a test.
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Every AOD implementation drains ~1% battery per hour, but the problem here is that this device has LCD screen, which increases the drain.
I have a device with AMOLED screen and I get around 7%-8% battery drain overnight with AOD enabled, so I just decided to disabled it most of the time and just enable it at certain hours.
I saw the U11+ has an option for motion, so maybe you should try that.
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Galaxo60 said:
Every AOD implementation drains ~1% battery per hour, but the problem here is that this device has LCD screen, which increases the drain.
I have a device with AMOLED screen and I get around 7%-8% battery drain overnight with AOD enabled, so I just decided to disabled it most of the time and just enable it at certain hours.
I saw the U11+ has an option for motion, so maybe you should try that.
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I'm already using motion but I've not used my phone as my daily driver until I had it just right and today is the first full day. Might be teething problems
I have FC on settings / system / time
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Clock / settings/ date and time
I've been trying to turn on ambient display and keeping it up all night to see how the battery drains, and i found out that it drains an extra 10-15% over an 8 hr period. Is this normal or is there something wrong?
Of123 said:
I've been trying to turn on ambient display and keeping it up all night to see how the battery drains, and i found out that it drains an extra 10-15% over an 8 hr period. Is this normal or is there something wrong?
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No i've seen the same and turned it off, the only option I have on in there is the tap to wake