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I am thinking very seriously about unlocking my G2x an going to AT&T because my service sucks big time where I live at. I don't get service in my house an when I go outside it takes about 5 minutes to get a signal.....what's everyone thoughts.....I've already talked to AT&T an Tmobile and have my unlock code already
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I assume you've already verified that it's possible to get a decent signal on AT&T there?
AT&T gets great signal there an a lot more places also.....an its atleast 3g there about to be 4g an with tmobile I've only got 2g there
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sgt_addyjp said:
AT&T gets great signal there an a lot more places also.....an its atleast 3g there about to be 4g an with tmobile I've only got 2g there
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Good luck on getting Att 3g on G2x.....
Why you say that for?
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G2x supposedly does NOT contain AT$T 3G bands as previously advertised. As for home coverage, T-Mo is supposed to be launching an in-home signal booster for free (with 2-yr contract, probably doesn't effect upgrade timeline but haven't verified that) pretty soon. I think within the next week.
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G2x supposedly does NOT contain AT$T 3G bands as previously advertised. As for home coverage, T-Mo is supposed to be launching an in-home signal booster for free (with 2-yr contract, probably doesn't effect upgrade timeline but haven't verified that) pretty soon. I think within the next week.
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My understanding is the booster needs to be connected to your broadband internet router to work. So you will be using your internet bandwidth to use mobile voice and data. What a scam...
And any one visiting you (or you neighbor) with a t-mobile connection will use that signal (your internet) and pay t-mobile for that.
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My understanding is the booster needs to be connected to your broadband internet router to work. So you will be using your internet bandwidth to use mobile voice and data. What a scam...
And any one visiting you (or you neighbor) with a t-mobile connection will use that signal (your internet) and pay t-mobile for that.
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Hopefully your "source" isn't an otherwise reputable source of information because you (they) couldn't be more wrong. I have been a part of the beta for these boosters for the past 6 months. All it does is take a weak 3G signal (which means you must get 3G somewhere in your house for this to work) and amplifies it throughout your house. In my case in an upstairs window I got a weak 3G signal so I put the receiver in the window and the transmitter in my living room. Now I get between 1 and 6mbps down throughout my entire house. There is not even a way to connect this thing to a home internet router. I don't even have home internet.
I'd be curious to know where you heard this.
Oh and the G2x does not work on AT&T 3G bands. I have been in several states with no T-Mobile coverage and have used AT&T instead, but only on Edge.
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Hopefully your "source" isn't an otherwise reputable source of information because you (they) couldn't be more wrong.
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I did not say I heard this from someone. I said its my understanding, and that was based on the similar booster I saw from Sprint. If t-mobile is implementing it in a different way, than i am sorry for my ignorance.
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I did not say I heard this from someone. I said its my understanding, and that was based on the similar booster I saw from Sprint. If t-mobile is implementing it in a different way, than i am sorry for my ignorance.
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I didn't intend to sound overtly defensive, I just don't like when people start using the "scam" word when this couldn't be further from a scam. This device kicks ass and tmo wants to give it out for free in exchange for people's business. This device is normally $500 so this program is great. Hopefully they will also offer the equipment at full retail price for those uncomfortable signing or extending a contract.
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So in other words I wont be able to use my G2x and get 3g with AT&T
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So in other words I wont be able to use my G2x and get 3g with AT&T
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That's correct you will only get 2g connection
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correct. Tmobile has different bands than ATT. So tmobile only get 2G with ATT and ATT only get 2G with tmobile.
Guess I should just sell the G2x then huh....
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Guess I should just sell the G2x then huh....
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I see a Motorola Atrix with that beloved MotoBlurp in your future
Another example of totally failed mobile network infrastructure buuldout here. How does the whole world agrees on similar frequencies and we can't have carriers on the same frequency in one country. Yeah, yeah... I know about spectrum availability and yada yada but this just shows our lack of foresight and another example of our national handicap of wanting to be different from everyone else. End rant.
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Another example of totally failed mobile network infrastructure buuldout here. How does the whole world agrees on similar frequencies and we can't have carriers on the same frequency in one country. Yeah, yeah... I know about spectrum availability and yada yada but this just shows our lack of foresight and another example of our national handicap of wanting to be different from everyone else. End rant.
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G2x supposedly does NOT contain AT$T 3G bands as previously advertised. As for home coverage, T-Mo is supposed to be launching an in-home signal booster for free (with 2-yr contract, probably doesn't effect upgrade timeline but haven't verified that) pretty soon. I think within the next week.
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Try today. It has the national launch today.
pbcal said:
My understanding is the booster needs to be connected to your broadband internet router to work. So you will be using your internet bandwidth to use mobile voice and data. What a scam...
And any one visiting you (or you neighbor) with a t-mobile connection will use that signal (your internet) and pay t-mobile for that.
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Nope. It does not need a broadband internet router to work. For that the phone's have wifi calling. It isn't a scam at all.
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Another example of totally failed mobile network infrastructure buuldout here. How does the whole world agrees on similar frequencies and we can't have carriers on the same frequency in one country. Yeah, yeah... I know about spectrum availability and yada yada but this just shows our lack of foresight and another example of our national handicap of wanting to be different from everyone else. End rant.
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Lots of countries are messed up. We just finally got all the carriers providing 3G here in Thailand. Two of them are providing 3G on 850Mhz (DTAC and TrueMove), one is on 900Mhz and the other is on 2100Mhz. A big grab bag. An AT&T phone will get 3G on two of them. Some TMO phones get 3G on the other one. But all phones get it on the 2100 carrier. I am using my G2X on 2100Mhz here (TOT3G) and my Nexus One on 900Mhz (AIS). So the USA isn't the only country with non-unified 3G bands.
What do u mean by this.....the atrix...I looked at that phone also and the infuse too
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So I bought a Samsung Infuse off Craigslist. I love it, it's awesome. I use the Simple Mobile $60/m plan. I previously had a Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant before the Infuse. I used to run CM7 but used Bionix 1.31 as my ROM on my Vibrant. So I'm familiar with the ends and outs of this technology.
The Situation: Samsung Infuse running latest "unofficial build" CM7, flawless performance. After doing much research as to APN settings on Google and XDA I found that the internet is wrong with the APN settings for HSPA+ on a HSPA+ capable phones. I called Simple Mobile yesterday and we did an OTA (she spoke I listened) configuration of the APN and it's full of IP addresses nao. She said that will allow me to access the "4G" network. The thing is, it says "E" for EDGE at the top for my signal....consistently.
The Problem: The EDGE never changes, also according to various speedtest's I can't EVER break .50kbs DL speed off of WiFi.
So I tried switching out various modems that we're available to me for the Infuse via the CWM flashable's. I've seen NO IMPROVEMENT on data speeds after each modem.
So what exactly is the issue: Am I doing something wrong via XDA material? Or am I just ****ed on HSPA+/4G speeds?
Simple mobile use tmobile towers, so u'll never get anything other than EDGE because att&fee phones dont use the same bands
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Simple mobile use tmobile towers, so u'll never get anything other than EDGE because att&fee phones dont use the same bands
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You are right and WRONG all at the same time...fascinating isn't it!
Simple Mobile does in FACT use T-Mobile Towers, however; before I rocked the Infuse I've seen other speeds that read 3G/H. The Simple Mobile Network offers 4G/HSPA+ with the $60/m plan that I am currently on.
So with that information, how would you explain that a phone that is HSPA+ capable and programmed correctly that sits on the EDGE network and still doesn't break .50kbs DL speed??
I spoke with customer service at Simple Mobile and several other Simple Mobile retailers that told me up one wall and down the other that the Samsung Infuse programmed correctly should FLY without WiFi, this phone should act like the rocket it claims to be with data on the network.
Instead it is slow, sux and is worthless without WiFi.
So how come you tell me one thing, and several people that work for the Network and people that are affiliated with it tell me another?
Simple because there trying to sell you. Remember its a business?
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Simple because there trying to sell you. Remember its a business?
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I own a business; I know about selling. But according to my research, your a little or alot off; I just can't exactly prove it.
I know that AT&T offers 4Gish speeds (true LTE in like 2 cities in TX), and that T-Mobile offers 3.5+G-4Gish speeds.
I also understand the concept of up-selling, however that scenario does not apply with my current plan and situation.
Has it, or has it NOT been documented ANYWHERE that an HSPA+ capable phone on the $60/m Simple Mobile plan achieved true or realistic data DL speeds off WiFi?
I am no tech or anywhere educated in this topic. But why are you comparing network speeds with your wifi? Or am I missing something here?
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I am no tech or anywhere educated in this topic. But why are you comparing network speeds with your wifi? Or am I missing something here?
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I'm not using WiFi as a comparison, just as another option for higher DL speeds. Off WiFi I've seen snails crawl faster than my data can move.
I just want to know why I can't get anything better than **** with this great phone and supposedly "reasonably-good" network.
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You are right and WRONG all at the same time...fascinating isn't it!
Simple Mobile does in FACT use T-Mobile Towers, however; before I rocked the Infuse I've seen other speeds that read 3G/H. The Simple Mobile Network offers 4G/HSPA+ with the $60/m plan that I am currently on.
So with that information, how would you explain that a phone that is HSPA+ capable and programmed correctly that sits on the EDGE network and still doesn't break .50kbs DL speed??
I spoke with customer service at Simple Mobile and several other Simple Mobile retailers that told me up one wall and down the other that the Samsung Infuse programmed correctly should FLY without WiFi, this phone should act like the rocket it claims to be with data on the network.
Instead it is slow, sux and is worthless without WiFi.
So how come you tell me one thing, and several people that work for the Network and people that are affiliated with it tell me another?
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They simply dont know wat they r talking about, they r trained within their own company and dont know that other bands exist and not all 4G r on the same band, same for 3G. So i suggest u sell ur phone and get a tmobile phone or switch to ATT. Next time when u buy a phone, insert ur Sim card in and test the network before u pay
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They simply dont know wat they r talking about, they r trained within their own company and dont know that other bands exist and not all 4G r on the same band, same for 3G. So i suggest u sell ur phone and get a tmobile phone or switch to ATT. Next time when u buy a phone, insert ur Sim card in and test the network before u pay
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The phone was NETWORK LOCKED when I bought it, so I guess I suppose I'm glad you we'rent with my when I bought it lol.
I'll take into mild consideration that a multitude of people may not be aware of alternate existing networks.
The T-Mobile phone I had before licked ****ing sac, my buddy has a Captivate that OVER-SHINED my Vibrant any day of the week - So No, I won't buy a phone from a company that's supposedly being bought out BY AT&T.
From previous quotes: It seems that we are implying that ONLY a T-MOBILE BRAND PHONE can access the 4Gish HSPA+ speeds that Simple Mobile network (that uses T-Mobile towers) and not an AT&T branded phone.
Yes, it's true....the above DOES in fact sound stupid when I put it on paper. AT&T and T-Mobile use the same towers and Simple Mobile/Metro PCS (some other un-explained networks) use the SAME towers.
So how is it, according to posters: That replacing AT&T phone with T-Mobile garbage will allow me to acquire the DL speeds that reference HSPA+/4G speeds. AND NOT, under any circumstances is it possible for an AT&T phone that uses the same towers to get the same outcome?
OK, the last part really does sound stupid, I feel like I'm arguing with a mockingbird. Anyone else have any further to offer?
bobthq said:
Simple mobile use tmobile towers, so u'll never get anything other than EDGE because att&fee phones dont use the same bands
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Actually I re-read this statement. AT&T don't use the same bands, something about T-Mobile uses 850 and AT&T uses 1700.
Would changing the band selection make a difference? How to if possible?
I think u can only change the APN, not the band, the band is hardware, not software. I had the same problem trying to use my Desire HD on tmobile and couldnt get anything more than edge. I did also ask questions here and all i got is the answer i told u. So sell ur phone asap, dont wait until its price drops more
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I think u can only change the APN, not the band, the band is hardware, not software. I had the same problem trying to use my Desire HD on tmobile and couldnt get anything more than edge. I did also ask questions here and all i got is the answer i told u. So sell ur phone asap, dont wait until its price drops more
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Word, posted on Craigslist and I suppose I'll get an HTC Sensation. Thank-you for your recent clarification.
Yo! You need straight talk to get it working simple mobile uses T-Mobile bands straight talk uses AT&T's network.
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Yo! You need straight talk to get it working simple mobile uses T-Mobile bands straight talk uses AT&T's network.
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Will straight talk sim work on not "straight talk phones"?
Which cheapest phone of straight talk I have to buy to get their SIM-card?
I know they selling GSM and CDMA phones and don't want to buy wrong one.
Flat Out answer only the 2G or EDGE bands in the phone are compatible with ATT networks the other bands are different so if you want bettter speeds get att or use wi-fi because edge is all you will ever get no matter what you do to the APN
like on the previous post mentioned, i think most of the att phones doesn't have the radio that is capable of receiving the 3g/4g frequencies tmobile use. i could be wrong, but i think is a hardware problem rather than a setting you can change.
Simple mobile is Tmobile, 3g may never work.
Strait talk is a variety of carriers, depends on,the specific phone. The only known phones that work from the att network and have a Sim that works in other phones are the expensive Nokia smart phones. But those also have a Tmobile variant, I don't know how to tell the difference without looking at the Sim.
There is also consumer cellular, apparently that,is att but I don't know if it's full talk text and Web or how it's billed.
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Simple mobile is Tmobile, 3g may never work.
Strait talk is a variety of carriers, depends on,the specific phone. The only known phones that work from the att network and have a Sim that works in other phones are the expensive Nokia smart phones. But those also have a Tmobile variant, I don't know how to tell the difference without looking at the Sim.
There is also consumer cellular, apparently that,is att but I don't know if it's full talk text and Web or how it's billed.
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Consumer Cellular is VERY "no-frills" - it's only for VERY light users.
There is no AT&T phone that I know of that supports the 1700 MHz band required for T-Mobile 3G.
The only phone I know of that has pentaband HSPA+ (works on both AT&T and T-Mobile) is the Galaxy Nexus.
When I programmed my HTC Evo 3D i saw various optinos for cdma/eg/4g in CDMA Workshop & QPST Service Programming, what I saw was diferent types of bands and freqz, you might wana check out a phone's specs of tmobile and then check if those specs (frqz & bands) match with the one set on your device...
For example
The Vocoder settings
band prefferences :
band class 0/1/2/3/4/5/ sys a/b/
GSM DSC 1800
GSM extended 900
Etc etc.... check with the device's password on it's profiles and realms (settings I can view on my evo using ##data# )
I can confirm that the issue is with the phones. I just ran a test using my simple mobile card on an AT&T Infuse vs Tmobile Vibrant 4G.
AT&T Infuse
Edge connection with 50kps max
Tmobile Vibrant 4G
3G connection with 240kps max
I will be going to staright talk at the end on this billing cycle.
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but can one buy a Verizon USB stick and then have cell data service on the tablet?
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Sorry if this is a stupid question, but can one buy a Verizon USB stick and then have cell data service on the tablet?
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It is not a stupid question. But... If you have a VZW LTE device and you have the share everything plan, you do not need the device since you will save a lot of money if you simply tether using wifi share under you share plan (which does not cost more). If you do not have a share everything plan, you can still save a lot of money of you download fox-fi for free and use it with your unlimited plan (Notice: this violates the VZW contract) or pay $15 a month for the right to tether. Either way, you save money by not having to purchase a USB device and paying the monthly line fee.
Hope this helps.
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It is not a stupid question. But... If you have a VZW LTE device and you have the share everything plan, you do not need the device since you will save a lot of money if you simply tether using wifi share under you share plan (which does not cost more). If you do not have a share everything plan, you can still save a lot of money of you download fox-fi for free and use it with your unlimited plan (Notice: this violates the VZW contract) or pay $15 a month for the right to tether. Either way, you save money by not having to purchase a USB device and paying the monthly line fee.
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That is a good alternative, but it includes paying for a cell phone or Teather device, its contract with Verizon, and keeping it charged.
I think the TF700 has a USB port. But does the Verizon stick require Windows? Will it even work on android?
perhaps nobody has been trying to do this.
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HowardZ said:
That is a good alternative, but it includes paying for a cell phone or Teather device, its contract with Verizon, and keeping it charged.
I think the TF700 has a USB port. But does the Verizon stick require Windows? Will it even work on android?
perhaps nobody has been trying to do this.
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It does have a USB port, but I do not think 1) it can power the modem, 2) it supports the drivers of the USB modem, and 3) there is an app that talks to the modem. Short answer is, highly unlikely that it will work.
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It does have a USB port, but I do not think 1) it can power the modem, 2) it supports the drivers of the USB modem, and 3) there is an app that talks to the modem. Short answer is, highly unlikely that it will work.
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That is disappointing, because a tablet with cellular data service, plus Bluetooth, plus Skype or Google voice could be a do everything device. it would also be cell company independent if one can always switch USB stick to another cell phone company.
Perhaps a windows 7 tablet is what is needed for this scenario? I'd prefer Android.
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HowardZ said:
That is disappointing, because a tablet with cellular data service, plus Bluetooth, plus Skype or Google voice could be a do everything device. it would also be cell company independent if one can always switch USB stick to another cell phone company.
Perhaps a windows 7 tablet is what is needed for this scenario? I'd prefer Android.
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I completely agree with you. That is why I think that the Surface (WIntel 8) devices will be very successful.
HowardZ said:
That is disappointing, because a tablet with cellular data service, plus Bluetooth, plus Skype or Google voice could be a do everything device. it would also be cell company independent if one can always switch USB stick to another cell phone company.
Perhaps a windows 7 tablet is what is needed for this scenario? I'd prefer Android.
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If you want it all in one, have you thought about getting a 4G version later this year?
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I have a feeling that most people that have a Transformer, also have some sort of cell phone. I think that most people just prefer to tether if needed, which is probably why this is not something that is available (yet, at least)...
I could be wrong, but I woulnd't think there wouldn't be much demand for this type of setup...
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I have a feeling that most people that have a Transformer, also have some sort of cell phone. I think that most people just prefer to tether if needed, which is probably why this is not something that is available (yet, at least)...
I could be wrong, but I woulnd't think there wouldn't be much demand for this type of setup...
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While you may be right, the battery of the device providing the tethering does suffer from battery drain, so an internal 4G LTE modem would be nice to have, but it appears that you are right about the popularity of such a feature. I believe I read that the XOOM WIFI outsold the XOOM that came out first with VZW due to the lower price. I had the VZW XOOM, but to be honest, I usually used it on Wifi, hardly ever using the built in 3G/LTE, I understand why people would want to have a USB modem so that they could use any Cellular carrier regardless of the device they want to buy.
Archos tablets have an optional USB stick for 3G GSM cellular connectivity.
However it is for european use only.
http://www.archos.com/store/g9_3g_stick.html?country=gb&lang=en
So, this exists for some tablets in some countries.
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I have a feeling that most people that have a Transformer, also have some sort of cell phone. I think that most people just prefer to tether if needed, which is probably why this is not something that is available (yet, at least)...
I could be wrong, but I woulnd't think there wouldn't be much demand for this type of setup...
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I want it for the CPU. I dont care for the Tegra 3.
Dump the USB stick and get the Verizon 4G LTE Mifi device, it allows the connection up to 5 mobile devices and doesn't have the quirks and limitations that a USB air card have which primarily drivers and connection limitation.
I used one for my Prime in the past, I haven't tried it on my new Infinity yet, but I'm 100% certain it will work as all the Mifi does is create a 4G LTE hotspot that any wifi enabled device with WPA2 support can connect to.
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Dump the USB stick and get the Verizon 4G LTE Mifi device, it allows the connection up to 5 mobile devices and doesn't have the quirks and limitations that a USB air card have which primarily drivers and connection limitation.
I used one for my Prime in the past, I haven't tried it on my new Infinity yet, but I'm 100% certain it will work as all the Mifi does is create a 4G LTE hotspot that any wifi enabled device with WPA2 support can connect to.
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I agree with this approach -- if you really want connectivity away from a wifi source I see this as far better way to go -- you can carry the VZW Jetpack in your pocket and it's good for a number of hours, usually long enough to bridge between wifi connections -- it also can be powered by AC if near a power outlet. The down side, of course, is the need to have an additional data plan.
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I agree with this approach -- if you really want connectivity away from a wifi source I see this as far better way to go -- you can carry the VZW Jetpack in your pocket and it's good for a number of hours, usually long enough to bridge between wifi connections -- it also can be powered by AC if near a power outlet. The down side, of course, is the need to have an additional data plan.
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Actually, there is no additional data plan required if you have the share plan. And whatever the cost, it would be the same for the USB as the MiFi, but the MiFi can drive more than one device at the same time.
Are you really concerned with the possibility of changing carriers? If so, what is the area in which this would be used in? Verizon uses CDMA for their 4G and though CDMA is a better technology, it is only available in North America (thus, less carriers and use space). If you have any plans of using this setup outside the US, you'd be much better off with GSM which is now coming into the 4G level but can be used world-wide. I have a ZTE MF60 which I used in Europe to get 3G mobile data on everything - 2 laptops, 2 tablets and a phone. The mobile wifi hotspots definately are worth the annoyance of carrying around an extra device. Haven't tried it yet, but one could possibly use the keyboard dock USB to charge the hotspot and provide access to other devices. So, you basically have 2 choices ahead of you: Technology type (based off of region of access) and How you want to use it (plug into only one device or a hotspot for everything).
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Are you really concerned with the possibility of changing carriers? If so, what is the area in which this would be used in? Verizon uses CDMA for their 4G and though CDMA is a better technology, it is only available in North America (thus, less carriers and use space). If you have any plans of using this setup outside the US, you'd be much better off with GSM which is now coming into the 4G level but can be used world-wide. I have a ZTE MF60 which I used in Europe to get 3G mobile data on everything - 2 laptops, 2 tablets and a phone. The mobile wifi hotspots definately are worth the annoyance of carrying around an extra device. Haven't tried it yet, but one could possibly use the keyboard dock USB to charge the hotspot and provide access to other devices. So, you basically have 2 choices ahead of you: Technology type (based off of region of access) and How you want to use it (plug into only one device or a hotspot for everything).
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If I'm not mistaken, Verizons 4G technology is actually not based on CDMA. Verizon 4G phones inherently have GSM capabilities (if the kernel and ROM support it) because it essentially uses a GSM antenna. They also have CDMA radios as well, to support Verizons 3G network.
Correct me if I am wrong.
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If I'm not mistaken, Verizons 4G technology is actually not based on CDMA. Verizon 4G phones inherently have GSM capabilities (if the kernel and ROM support it) because it essentially uses a GSM antenna. They also have CDMA radios as well, to support Verizons 3G network.
Correct me if I am wrong.
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The only thing that might pose an issue is that the LTE frequencies that VZW uses are not the same world-wide, so while the GSM side should work, LTE speeds might be difficult to achieve outside the US.
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If I'm not mistaken, Verizons 4G technology is actually not based on CDMA. Verizon 4G phones inherently have GSM capabilities (if the kernel and ROM support it) because it essentially uses a GSM antenna. They also have CDMA radios as well, to support Verizons 3G network.
Correct me if I am wrong.
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The only thing that might pose an issue is that the LTE frequencies that VZW uses are not the same world-wide, so while the GSM side should work, LTE speeds might be difficult to achieve outside the US.
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Seems I stand corrected. The 4G LTE is based off GSM, so at least that would work in GSM areas (though perhaps not at 4G speeds). Phone communication still uses CDMA unless its a dual phone that can use GSM or CDMA. GSM functionality is not natively inherent to Verizon's phone nor CDMA. If you want to test it here in the states, move from Verizon to AT&T or T-mobile. If it works that way then it will work in a GSM environment.
Why Verizon 4G LTE smartphones are a bad choice for world travelers
Actually, the Razr with ICS provides global roaming, but so do their 4G jetpacs.
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Actually, the Razr with ICS provides global roaming, but so do their 4G jetpacs.
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Well, now that's cool about the RAZR... might have to read up on that 'un.
But what I meant is that one needs to find a specific functionality that allows for such roaming. Buying Verizon does not automatically get GSM nor does having CDMA automatically work worldwide. One needs to find a device where it is specifically mentioned, such as that RAZR you indicated.
So net10 has unlimited everything for $50 with CDMA devices on their new BYOD program- http://www.net10byop.com/ PagePlus and VZWPP both claim LTE devices don't work but it's merely that they require flashing. I assume it's the same for net10. Has anyone tried this?
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So net10 has unlimited everything for $50 with CDMA devices on their new BYOD program- http://www.net10byop.com/ PagePlus and VZWPP both claim LTE devices don't work but it's merely that they require flashing. I assume it's the same for net10. Has anyone tried this?
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Ive been wondering dame thing. I want to get my niece a phone that use this but no LTE has stopped me
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Ive been wondering dame thing. I want to get my niece a phone that use this but no LTE has stopped me
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LTE is really overkill on a phone IMO when 3g allows streaming video and there's free WiFi on every corner. Unless you're tethering who cares. I just want 3g.
If it can be done on other mvnos im sure it can be done.
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i would like more info on this as well. thisi is what i heard
my friend got a call from net10 dealer. saying that net10 wants us to flash phones to net10 now. I know net10, tracfone,st ect our owned by the same person even page plus now!! page plus dealer portal will probably disappear soon or later.
well net10 cdma is now open for business to flasher offing unlimited everything for $50
the only reason i really want to make the switch because whether unlimited or not net10 advertises as unlimited data so that makes all the difference with customers. plus is $5 cheaper. anybody else heard of this? not trying to mess up vipers thread but just trying to see as we might have to had net10 to the topic. if so i want to make this transition asap plus you can top up on net10 anywhere!!! even at your local dollar store! another plus
As the subject line says, just curious as to if there has been any word on whether or not they will be bringing this device to Verizon or are we out of luck. I'm assuming it won't work on Verizon networks currently, correct? If it's not going to be available I guess I'll be looking for an alternative when my contract is up this summer.
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its not cdma compatible. but verizon still doesnt allow devices unless they have verizons carrier branding anyway. thats why you cant use a nexus 7 or nexus 5, even though they do have compatible bands. i dont see this company ever doing carrier subsidization, so im going to say itll never be on verizon.
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its not cdma compatible. but verizon still doesnt allow devices unless they have verizons carrier branding anyway. thats why you cant use a nexus 7 or nexus 5, even though they do have compatible bands. i dont see this company ever doing carrier subsidization, so im going to say itll never be on verizon.
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Bummer. But thanks man. Didn't know that about Nexus and Verizon either. Maybe it's time to switch.
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Bummer. But thanks man. Didn't know that about Nexus and Verizon either. Maybe it's time to switch.
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I highly recommend T-Mobile if the coverage is good in your area. Tmo happens to be the best in my area out of all the companies, so my choice was obvious. Their pricing is fantastic. And if you do switch to them, get the Jump plan so you can get a new phone every 6 months and have insurance
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I highly recommend T-Mobile if the coverage is good in your area. Tmo happens to be the best in my area out of all the companies, so my choice was obvious. Their pricing is fantastic. And if you do switch to them, get the Jump plan so you can get a new phone every 6 months and have insurance
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I'm located in the DC area and I believe T-Mobile is here, but I am somewhat limited because I do a lot of traveling. Some of the traveling is to somewhat remote areas where I barely even get service with Verizon. I'm pretty sure some of those areas wouldn't get any reception with less coverage than I get now. But maybe I should start exploring other possibilities. Thanks for the recommendation!
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I'm located in the DC area and I believe T-Mobile is here, but I am somewhat limited because I do a lot of traveling. Some of the traveling is to somewhat remote areas where I barely even get service with Verizon. I'm pretty sure some of those areas wouldn't get any reception with less coverage than I get now. But maybe I should start exploring other possibilities. Thanks for the recommendation!
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AT&T might do the trick.
There are only a few small areas (such as the area around Penn State University) where there is a noticeable difference between AT&T and Verizon coverage these days.
T-Mobile's network is WAY too small. EDGE-only for miles around where I live.
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I'm located in the DC area and I believe T-Mobile is here, but I am somewhat limited because I do a lot of traveling. Some of the traveling is to somewhat remote areas where I barely even get service with Verizon. I'm pretty sure some of those areas wouldn't get any reception with less coverage than I get now. But maybe I should start exploring other possibilities. Thanks for the recommendation!
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Check coverage maps. I absolutely love t-mobile where I live. Everywhere I go I get LTE and when I travel out of state I get great service to where I go as well. If anything get a prepaid AT&T plan since they have really good coverage. We're getting band 12 on T-Mobile from Verizon so that's going to help a lot. The only bad part is band 12(700mhz) isn't supported by the Oneplus One.
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Check coverage maps. I absolutely love t-mobile where I live. Everywhere I go I get LTE and when I travel out of state I get great service to where I go as well. If anything get a prepaid AT&T plan since they have really good coverage. We're getting band 12 on T-Mobile from Verizon so that's going to help a lot. The only bad part is band 12(700mhz) isn't supported by the Oneplus One.
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I originally switched to T-Mo because of Verizon being so bad in my area (and price but thats another story). Getting that band actually won't help me at home at all. But traveling is a huge plus
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I'm located in the DC area and I believe T-Mobile is here, but I am somewhat limited because I do a lot of traveling. Some of the traveling is to somewhat remote areas where I barely even get service with Verizon. I'm pretty sure some of those areas wouldn't get any reception with less coverage than I get now. But maybe I should start exploring other possibilities. Thanks for the recommendation!
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I also travel a TON and Tmobile didn't work well for me. I switched to Straight Talk prepaid which is part of AT&T, $45 a month for unlimited everything. Service is also great for me anywhere I travel to.
Good luck!!!
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I also travel a TON and Tmobile didn't work well for me. I switched to Straight Talk prepaid which is part of AT&T, $45 a month for unlimited everything. Service is also great for me anywhere I travel to.
Good luck!!!
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What's the difference in price and service as compared to regular AT&T. Assuming you just pay for the phone outright at full price? I didn't think AT&T offered unlimited data anymore either. I'd love that.
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What's the difference in price and service as compared to regular AT&T. Assuming you just pay for the phone outright at full price? I didn't think AT&T offered unlimited data anymore either. I'd love that.
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ST claims "unlimited" data but in reality you are likely to get nastygrams past 2GB. So I'd consider it to be a 2GB plan.
Same network, same coverage, probably worse customer support if you need it (but less likely since there is only one plan and you bring your own device), and no subsidy penalty.
I'm currently on Straight Talk and love it. If/when I finally replace my i777 with this device, I'm going stay on ST. They've improved their customer service considerably - I would advise others to use it; there's absolutely nothing to lose!
Entropy, it's good to see you around!
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ST claims "unlimited" data but in reality you are likely to get nastygrams past 2GB. So I'd consider it to be a 2GB plan.
Same network, same coverage, probably worse customer support if you need it (but less likely since there is only one plan and you bring your own device), and no subsidy penalty.
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Actually, just bumped their data alotment from 2.5gbs to 3gbs about 2 weeks ago :beer:
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