photo processing speed vs pixel 3 - Google Pixel 3a Questions & Answers

The photo taking capability of the Pixels is one of the biggest features. 3a has a slower cpu and (unconfirmed?) lack of Pixel Visual Core.
Did anyone compared a reallife photo processing speed between 3 and 3a? How long the 3a takes to save a photo, in the night mode especially?

Is it just a matter of process speed or will the 3 and 3xl produce superior photos compared to the 3a series?

When I was playing with a 3a XL at Best Buy, it seemed to take 3-4 seconds to process a picture - including night mode. If I took a picture and immediately opened it in the gallery, I would see the progress circle moving to completion. I don't have access to a 3 or 3xl to compare it to, but I suspect it is near immediate processing with the pixel visual core. I should also note that the camera is available to take more pictures immediately - you don't need to wait for the image to be processed before taking another picture.
So while there is a small delay processing pictures with the 3a or 3a XL, it is neither annoyingly long, nor does it prevent normal usage of the phone/camera. Honestly it will hardly be noticeable in normal operation IMHO.
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Sturdyturdy said:
Is it just a matter of process speed or will the 3 and 3xl produce superior photos compared to the 3a series?
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It's my understanding that it is simply a difference in processing speed. The pictures with the rear camera are identical to the 3 series.
Of course the front facing selfie camera is different from the original 3 series, so the images from the 3a front camera are slightly different (or at least harder to compare) from the original, but the photo quality is nearly identical with the front camera too.

sic0048 said:
When I was playing with a 3a XL at Best Buy, it seemed to take 3-4 seconds to process a picture - including night mode. If I took a picture and immediately opened it in the gallery, I would see the progress circle moving to completion. I don't have access to a 3 or 3xl to compare it to, but I suspect it is near immediate processing with the pixel visual core. I should also note that the camera is available to take more pictures immediately - you don't need to wait for the image to be processed before taking another picture.
So while there is a small delay processing pictures with the 3a or 3a XL, it is neither annoyingly long, nor does it prevent normal usage of the phone/camera. Honestly it will hardly be noticeable in normal operation IMHO.
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It's my understanding that it is simply a difference in processing speed. The pictures with the rear camera are identical to the 3 series.
Of course the front facing selfie camera is different from the original 3 series, so the images from the 3a front camera are slightly different (or at least harder to compare) from the original, but the photo quality is nearly identical with the front camera too.
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I did have the 3a for a few hours last week but ended up sending it back. The phone felt very cheap in my hands,camera was marginally better than my s9. All in all i felt the phone was from 2014 with a 2019 camera

Sturdyturdy said:
I did have the 3a for a few hours last week but ended up sending it back. The phone felt very cheap in my hands,camera was marginally better than my s9. All in all i felt the phone was from 2014 with a 2019 camera
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Really? You thought it felt cheap? I don't get that impression at all. Feels nice to me. I don't like my phone's to be made of metal and glass. Plastic feels nice.
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Really? You thought it felt cheap? I don't get that impression at all. Feels nice to me. I don't like my phone's to be made of metal and glass. Plastic feels nice.
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Let's not forget the fact that because the back isn't glass, you don't need a super bulky case to protect it.

When people say it feels cheap I respect their opinion but I personally think that it doesn't feel cheap at all, not even close. It actually feels really nice. Out of all the items that are made of plastic that I've used before, this is really good plastic. It's not low-quality plastic, this kind of plastic is beautifully smooth and you can tell it's very good quality.
I mean let's be fair here, not all plastics are created equal.
Some people put the 3a down because it doesn't have the best glass body/metal, a slower Snapdragon, no water resistance, etc.
However, If you want all those features on a brand NEW phone for $400 dollars then you live in a dreamland and need a reality check.
If you want all those features then go ahead and shell out the cash for a Pixel 3, or whatever else is in the market. It's not the 3a's fault.
The 3a is not the best phone out there, it's not trying to be. The amazing camera, screen, performance, quality, and the vanilla Google experience is great value for its price.
This phone is a very good phone for what it is. I'm personally very happy with my purchase, and I haven't been this excited about a phone in a long time.

zonedgold said:
When people say it feels cheap I respect their opinion but I personally think that it doesn't feel cheap at all, not even close. It actually feels really nice. Out of all the items that are made of plastic that I've used before, this is really good plastic. It's not low-quality plastic, this kind of plastic is beautifully smooth and you can tell it's very good quality.
I mean let's be fair here, not all plastics are created equal.
Some people put the 3a down because it doesn't have the best glass body/metal, a slower Snapdragon, no water resistance, etc.
However, If you want all those features on a brand NEW phone for $400 dollars then you live in a dreamland and need a reality check.
If you want all those features then go ahead and shell out the cash for a Pixel 3, or whatever else is in the market. It's not the 3a's fault.
The 3a is not the best phone out there, it's not trying to be. The amazing camera, screen, performance, quality, and the vanilla Google experience is great value for its price.
This phone is a very good phone for what it is. I'm personally very happy with my purchase, and I haven't been this excited about a phone in a long time.
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It wasnt so much that though, the phone looked really nice and felt light and felt nostalgic holding a phone without glass and metal. But i was buying it to replace my s9+ so I was comparing it on that in which case obviously the s9+ will win. But it seemed to me they made too many cut backs. Audio quality sounded average. I checked in call speaker and too much sound leaked out. I also had some glitches whenever i clicked battery settings the settings app would force close. Also the snapdragin 660. I get it mid range and all that. But the fact is the 660 came out mid 2018 since then weve had the 670 and the newer 2019 710. So my 2 cents were if google want to make a mid range phone in 2019, then use mid range 2019 hardware and not give people a year out of date phone already. Its £400 in the UK and $400 dollars in the US. Makes no sense. If that phone was £250-300 I would have nothing to moan about. However for 400 you can get many top ranged phones 2nd hand.
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Really? You thought it felt cheap? I don't get that impression at all. Feels nice to me. I don't like my phone's to be made of metal and glass. Plastic feels nice.
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For you too ^^^

Sturdyturdy said:
It wasnt so much that though, the phone looked really nice and felt light and felt nostalgic holding a phone without glass and metal. But i was buying it to replace my s9+ so I was comparing it on that in which case obviously the s9+ will win. But it seemed to me they made too many cut backs. Audio quality sounded average. I checked in call speaker and too much sound leaked out. I also had some glitches whenever i clicked battery settings the settings app would force close. Also the snapdragin 660. I get it mid range and all that. But the fact is the 660 came out mid 2018 since then weve had the 670 and the newer 2019 710. So my 2 cents were if google want to make a mid range phone in 2019, then use mid range 2019 hardware and not give people a year out of date phone already. Its £400 in the UK and $400 dollars in the US. Makes no sense. If that phone was £250-300 I would have nothing to moan about. However for 400 you can get many top ranged phones 2nd hand.
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For you too ^^^
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You do know this phone comes with a snapdragon 670, correct?
Also, people keep complaining that they want a cheaper Google phone. Them one comes out they complain that it costs too much. This would have been the case if it cost $250. It would have been, "yeah it's nice but for $250??? I would have loved to see it cost $75 with all the corners they cut."
I'm enjoying this device immensely so far. Checks a ton of boxes for me. I use it to check email, make calls and limited social media. I am not a heavy gamer. Apps load quickly, battery lasts me through almost 2 days, screen looks beautiful, I thought sound was ok out of the box but it is worlds better after installing viper.
Good luck with your s9. I'm going to sit here and enjoy my 3a.
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jmtjr278 said:
You do know this phone comes with a snapdragon 670, correct?
Also, people keep complaining that they want a cheaper Google phone. Them one comes out they complain that it costs too much. This would have been the case if it cost $250. It would have been, "yeah it's nice but for $250??? I would have loved to see it cost $75 with all the corners they cut."
I'm enjoying this device immensely so far. Checks a ton of boxes for me. I use it to check email, make calls and limited social media. I am not a heavy gamer. Apps load quickly, battery lasts me through almost 2 days, screen looks beautiful, I thought sound was ok out of the box but it is worlds better after installing viper.
Good luck with your s9. I'm going to sit here and enjoy my 3a.
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My bad 670. Oh well still a newer 710. Enjoy your phone. I may change my mind. Have to see how the development scene turns out. But with no lineage for pixel 3 or 2 series im not that optimistic.

I can say this about the processing speed, it processes night sight faster than the pixel 2xl and takes better pictures

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My bad 670. Oh well still a newer 710. Enjoy your phone. I may change my mind. Have to see how the development scene turns out. But with no lineage for pixel 3 or 2 series im not that optimistic.
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99% of smartphones are released with outdated chipsets. There's ALWAYS a newer one. It takes time to develop and sell a phone based on the most up-to-date chipsets, which means by release time, the next one is coming out.
Most phones have > 12mo planning phase

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99% of smartphones are released with outdated chipsets. There's ALWAYS a newer one. It takes time to develop and sell a phone based on the most up-to-date chipsets, which means by release time, the next one is coming out.
Most phones have > 12mo planning phase.
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Seriously? Grow up dude, people are allowed to not like stuff. This isn't communist XDA, people are entitled to their opinions, even if they're strong.
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Yeah thats true. Im thinking about getting it again tbh. Just gonna wait a couple months and see how development is going. The new issue about the misaligned ports. Dont think i bothered to look when I had it. See someone in here saying he was having to send back his 2nd replacement.

I prefer glass and metal but come on... 3a isn't cheap at all. It's a very beautiful phone.

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99% of smartphones are released with outdated chipsets. There's ALWAYS a newer one. It takes time to develop and sell a phone based on the most up-to-date chipsets, which means by release time, the next one is coming out.
Most phones have > 12mo planning phase.
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Dont worry, I actually bought the phone again last night. Now ive spent a day with it and have my case and tempered glass. I love it.

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Headphone jack/DAC coming to Essential phone..

https://www.droid-life.com/2018/06/07/essential-audio-adapter-hd-mod/
Surprised no one else reported this yet. Really surprised by it.
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https://www.droid-life.com/2018/06/07/essential-audio-adapter-hd-mod/
Surprised no one else reported this yet. Really surprised by it.
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Right? I saw it come up on my google feeds while rocking out at the Slayer concert lastnight. I'm pretty pumped about it.
I can only hope they already had made a zillion of these things and it's cheaper to try and sell some of them rather than throw them away. Better be under $20...haha
Maybe they can also make a high-end camera mod too with zoom lens and large sensor for good night shots. If they could do this it should give the company the kick it needs.
Where the hell is the charging dock? That's the one accessory I was looking to buy.
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https://www.droid-life.com/2018/06/07/essential-audio-adapter-hd-mod/
Surprised no one else reported this yet. Really surprised by it.
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From that article -
"Wait, the Essential Phone will be a year old at that point. How long does Essential plan on selling their original, issue-plagued phone?"
Kinda **** statement, no?
That guy sounds very cynical. Considering he is in the industry he probably has every phone out there unlike some of us that can't afford to buy another phone. If he doesn't like it why does he bother reporting it?
My biggest concern is it's made out of titanium. It'll be > $100
We will see. The phone was made of titanium also. It's not as expensive as it used to be. Lot's of titanium watches out there also that are not expensive.
I'd rather use qobuz‘s flac streaming with a sony ldac bluetooth headphone...
For a company that designed arguably one of the classiest smartphones, the form factor of this DAC is surprisingly poor and inconvenient.
I would have created a case (to mate with the pins) with an extended top to house a horizontal headphone jack and electronics, and if needed, an extended bottom to house additional electronics and balance the weight. This would have resulted in simply a taller device rather than having an asymmetrical block attached to it's back...
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The email I got said $400 with three months of Tidal free. Eeek.

Someone's coming from G6?

I'm a disappointed G6's User and I plan to buy a Red OP6 at the release, and so I would like to know if someone else did the same thing and if yes how's been the passageway between these two devices.
Thanks in advance
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I'm a disappointed G6's User and I plan to buy a Red OP6 at the release, and so I would like to know if someone else did the same thing and if yes how's been the passageway between these two devices.
Thanks in advance
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Well, I'm coming from a G4 and even though I miss a bit the LG UI I can't say the OP6 isn't a good phone. It's a beast, RAM keeps apps open for so long that you will even forget that you opened them recently. Front camera is a huge step forward, massive dynamic range and colours very close to the real. The rear camera is ok but the difference between the two is almost non existent. I'm guessing it's because of the OnePlus camera software that doesn't make the camera work at its best. The autofocus is nowhere near as precise as the G4 was, there is visible post processing noise in night photos and those tend to get a bit on the reddish side. However, the flash is bright as hell and the light balance is perfect. Something I loved to do with the G4 was shooting long exposure photos at night. With this phone the job becomes a tad harder, mostly due to the crappy autofocus. When you manage to get a stable picture with no motion noise and balanced focus the result is pretty amazing. I would say the step up isn't worth it if you have a G6, hold on for another year or wait for the next V series LG phone.
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Well, I'm coming from a G4 and even though I miss a bit the LG UI I can't say the OP6 isn't a good phone. It's a beast, RAM keeps apps open for so long that you will even forget that you opened them recently. Front camera is a huge step forward, massive dynamic range and colours very close to the real. The rear camera is ok but the difference between the two is almost non existent. I'm guessing it's because of the OnePlus camera software that doesn't make the camera work at its best. The autofocus is nowhere near as precise as the G4 was, there is visible post processing noise in night photos and those tend to get a bit on the reddish side. However, the flash is bright as hell and the light balance is perfect. Something I loved to do with the G4 was shooting long exposure photos at night. With this phone the job becomes a tad harder, mostly due to the crappy autofocus. When you manage to get a stable picture with no motion noise and balanced focus the result is pretty amazing. I would say the step up isn't worth it if you have a G6, hold on for another year or wait for the next V series LG phone.
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Take in count that I've decided to switch the G6 afte more than a year because of the crappy battery life (I mostly use the phone under mobile network) and the more crappy reception, add to this the lack of development and updates from LG and the fact that, apart from the second camera, the main camera got worse than G5 and G4 for no reasons. This is why I'll never buy another LG, and why I've decided to switch on OP6
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Take in count that I've decided to switch the G6 afte more than a year because of the crappy battery life (I mostly use the phone under mobile network) and the more crappy reception, add to this the lack of development and updates from LG and the fact that, apart from the second camera, the main camera got worse than G5 and G4 for no reasons. This is why I'll never buy another LG, and why I've decided to switch on OP6
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Alright, understandable.
I had an overall positive experience with LG (my G4 died of saltwater damage -at the beach my umbrella flew off in the sea with the phone attached to it-) so I'm sorry for you.
Don't take my review as gold plated though, I got my OP6 just yesterday so mine is a 24 hours first impression review. The OP6 is a great step up in terms of battery life, I used it quite heavily (constant social networking multitasking, high camera usage, chatting on WhatsApp, Telegram and Discord -no games or video recording tho-) and it covered a full day of usage no problem. Also it charges so damn fast that I'm not even charging it overnight anymore, it will just disrupt the battery's lifespan. Reception is amazing, at the moment I'm at my holiday home near the sea in southern Italy, my mom's iPhone 7 for comparison rarely gets in 4G and tends to lose signal standing very near to the sea while the OP6 is always in 4G if not 4G+ occasionally. You get used to gestures quite easily, just the recent apps tab takes a little more to get used to. Also the phone comes with a dark greyish clear cover with smoked sides and a flawless installed glass screen protector (that tends to hold fingerprints tho). No earbuds are included. Audio quality is very loud but not the clearest sound you'll ever hear. Call quality is just fine to me. In-ear volume with earbuds seems quite low but I guess it's just the crappy headphones I'm using ATM, also if I won't be satisfied in the future I'm going to install ViPER4Android and some other audio mods as I did on the G4.
Haxival said:
Alright, understandable.
I had an overall positive experience with LG (my G4 died of saltwater damage -at the beach my umbrella flew off in the sea with the phone attached to it-) so I'm sorry for you.
Don't take my review as gold plated though, I got my OP6 just yesterday so mine is a 24 hours first impression review. The OP6 is a great step up in terms of battery life, I used it quite heavily (constant social networking multitasking, high camera usage, chatting on WhatsApp, Telegram and Discord -no games or video recording tho-) and it covered a full day of usage no problem. Also it charges so damn fast that I'm not even charging it overnight anymore, it will just disrupt the battery's lifespan. Reception is amazing, at the moment I'm at my holiday home near the sea in southern Italy, my mom's iPhone 7 for comparison rarely gets in 4G and tends to lose signal standing very near to the sea while the OP6 is always in 4G if not 4G+ occasionally. You get used to gestures quite easily, just the recent apps tab takes a little more to get used to. Also the phone comes with a dark greyish clear cover with smoked sides and a flawless installed glass screen protector (that tends to hold fingerprints tho). No earbuds are included. Audio quality is very loud but not the clearest sound you'll ever hear. Call quality is just fine to me. In-ear volume with earbuds seems quite low but I guess it's just the crappy headphones I'm using ATM, also if I won't be satisfied in the future I'm going to install ViPER4Android and some other audio mods as I did on the G4.
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Thanks, users review are always welcome I hope to experience the same :fingers-crossed:
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Thanks, users review are always welcome I hope to experience the same :fingers-crossed:
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You're welcome, if you have anymore questions I'll try to answer at my best
I'm a former G3 / G4 and G6 user. I switched to OP6 at day one. For me, the G6 seems a device that is years old and although It has an SD821, it turns out to have a slower and more heavy UI than my Xiaomi Redmi Note 5.
All this without considering the lack of sofware support. So I will never buy an LG smartphone again. Bye bye LG!
I'm coming from a G3 running Fulmics ROM (basically made the phone into a G5 software + root) and the OP6 is miles faster in every way. Spec wise it beats the G6 as well, although it is a HUGE phone imo.
Camera isn't the best, and there are some who do not like the display or OOS, but I can live with all of it. My G3 died (kinda sorta) and I had to get a new device. This is one of the very few out there that you can modify without going through big hoops and it won't break the bank. I'm not writing off LG, but based on how the US unlocked G7 has still not received bootloader unlock, I'm not holding my breath that any LG product in the US will ever get it again. LG really screwed over the dev community past the G4. If they were smart, they'd go the route of HTC and allow people to buy the phone directly and fully unlocked. Oh well.
MuttleyMB said:
I'm a former G3 / G4 and G6 user. I switched to OP6 at day one. For me, the G6 seems a device that is years old and although It has an SD821, it turns out to have a slower and more heavy UI than my Xiaomi Redmi Note 5.
All this without considering the lack of sofware support. So I will never buy an LG smartphone again. Bye bye LG!
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Yeah, thought the same, I'm with LG since G2 and it's time to change, and never come back
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I'm coming from a G3 running Fulmics ROM (basically made the phone into a G5 software + root) and the OP6 is miles faster in every way. Spec wise it beats the G6 as well, although it is a HUGE phone imo.
Camera isn't the best, and there are some who do not like the display or OOS, but I can live with all of it. My G3 died (kinda sorta) and I had to get a new device. This is one of the very few out there that you can modify without going through big hoops and it won't break the bank. I'm not writing off LG, but based on how the US unlocked G7 has still not received bootloader unlock, I'm not holding my breath that any LG product in the US will ever get it again. LG really screwed over the dev community past the G4. If they were smart, they'd go the route of HTC and allow people to buy the phone directly and fully unlocked. Oh well.
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LG is continuously making wrong and stupid decisions based on nothing, well, they'll keep going without me LOL.
I recently heard of the V35S arrival
And OF COURSE IT WONT BE SOLD IN EUROPE
What's the point of it? I don't understand!
The V30 for me was the perfect phone, only reason I discarded it was the front camera.
AND NOW THAT THEY UPGRADED IT OF COURSE ITS NOT COMING TO EUROPE
I won't change my phone till I finish high school (3 more grades to go, so 3 years) so this is something I shouldn't really bother about as my OP6 is brand new and I'm getting more and more satisfied with it, but I'm almost giving away all the trust in LG.
The features they pack (flat display on G6, wide angle, quality DAC and stereo audio on G7) are really all I wish on a phone, but the marketing decisions they make are absolute crap.
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Killua96 said:
Yeah, thought the same, I'm with LG since G2 and it's time to change, and never come back
LG is continuously making wrong and stupid decisions based on nothing, well, they'll keep going without me LOL.
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I recently heard of the V35S arrival
And OF COURSE IT WONT BE SOLD IN EUROPE
What's the point of it? I don't understand!
The V30 for me was the perfect phone, only reason I discarded it was the front camera.
AND NOW THAT THEY UPGRADED IT OF COURSE ITS NOT COMING TO EUROPE
I won't change my phone till I finish high school (3 more grades to go, so 3 years) so this is something I shouldn't really bother about as my OP6 is brand new and I'm getting more and more satisfied with it, but I'm almost giving away all the trust in LG.
The features they pack (flat display on G6, wide angle, quality DAC and stereo audio on G7) are really all I wish on a phone, but the marketing decisions they make are absolute crap.
Haxival said:
I recently heard of the V35S arrival
And OF COURSE IT WONT BE SOLD IN EUROPE
What's the point of it? I don't understand!
The V30 for me was the perfect phone, only reason I discarded it was the front camera.
AND NOW THAT THEY UPGRADED IT OF COURSE ITS NOT COMING TO EUROPE
I won't change my phone till I finish high school (3 more grades to go, so 3 years) so this is something I shouldn't really bother about as my OP6 is brand new and I'm getting more and more satisfied with it, but I'm almost giving away all the trust in LG.
The features they pack (flat display on G6, wide angle, quality DAC and stereo audio on G7) are really all I wish on a phone, but the marketing decisions they make are absolute crap.
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I recently heard of the V35S arrival
And OF COURSE IT WONT BE SOLD IN EUROPE
What's the point of it? I don't understand!
The V30 for me was the perfect phone, only reason I discarded it was the front camera.
AND NOW THAT THEY UPGRADED IT OF COURSE ITS NOT COMING TO EUROPE
I won't change my phone till I finish high school (3 more grades to go, so 3 years) so this is something I shouldn't really bother about as my OP6 is brand new and I'm getting more and more satisfied with it, but I'm almost giving away all the trust in LG.
The features they pack (flat display on G6, wide angle, quality DAC and stereo audio on G7) are really all I wish on a phone, but the marketing decisions they make are absolute crap.
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You're european? If yes, could you test with a GPS Test app if Galileo is supported from Op6? Thanks
PS: Nothing new for LG, ****ty choices for a ****ty OEM
Killua96 said:
You're european? If yes, could you test with a GPS Test app if Galileo is supported from Op6? Thanks
PS: Nothing new for LG, ****ty choices for a ****ty OEM
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I downloaded this app, GPS test, probably the very first on the search list in the play store.
Here it seems that Galileo is supported because my device is marked with a pentagon
Roaming around Reddit seems that Galileo support has already started from the OP5T
I'm not into GPS devices, what benefits do I get from having Galileo support?
Haxival said:
I downloaded this app, GPS test, probably the very first on the search list in the play store.
Here it seems that Galileo is supported because my device is marked with a pentagon
Roaming around Reddit seems that Galileo support has already started from the OP5T
I'm not into GPS devices, what benefits do I get from having Galileo support?
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It's more accurate afaik, with a 20cm of error, don't know if there are other advantages
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It's more accurate afaik, with a 20cm of error, don't know if there are other advantages
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Well then I wouldn't really mind his lack anyways.
I mean, to reach the post office that had my OP6 package I used my dad's Samsung Galaxy J5 2015 and the GPS worked like a charm. The output lag was noticeable only at very high speeds (over 100 km/h).
Yes! Seriously disappointed in the g6 although I'm probably switching to the 6T as being 15 makes getting money a little more difficult due to only working on weekends but the GYM gave me horrible battery life at about 4 hours SoT on average or worse.
Also noticed some burn in on my G6 which is very disappointing. Hopefully the 6T can last me at least 2 years until Uni as I really can't afford to pay any more money towards a phone.
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Yes! Seriously disappointed in the g6 although I'm probably switching to the 6T as being 15 makes getting money a little more difficult due to only working on weekends but the GYM gave me horrible battery life at about 4 hours SoT on average or worse.
Also noticed some burn in on my G6 which is very disappointing. Hopefully the 6T can last me at least 2 years until Uni as I really can't afford to pay any more money towards a phone.
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Waiting for the next OnePlus phone doesn't make much sense as they come out every 6 months and there's still about 4 months more to wait. This one has everything you need (I'm 16 as well and I'm in your same situation), don't expect the camera modules or the design to develop any further for now because the sensors on the OP6 are already a step up from the past two generations. All you can hope for imo is the useless wireless charging, some fancy new colorway and if you're lucky better audio quality (the bottom speaker remained unchanged from the OP5) . Also it will cost more as well, personally I wouldn't pay 600+ € for a OnePlus phone.
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All the OP6 needs is a camera software update (this one doesn't really make the sensors shine as they could) and some audio fixes that you can already get through modding. Nothing else imo.
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I was following your same way of thinking from the OP5 (at the time I didn't had to change my phone though) and I insta discarded both the OP5 and the OP5T just for the OIS lack. As far as I saw that the OP6 had it I already knew I was going to get it.
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Waiting for the next OnePlus phone doesn't make much sense as they come out every 6 months and there's still about 4 months more to wait. This one has everything you need (I'm 16 as well and I'm in your same situation), don't expect the camera modules or the design to develop any further for now because the sensors on the OP6 are already a step up from the past two generations. All you can hope for imo is the useless wireless charging, some fancy new colorway and if you're lucky better audio quality (the bottom speaker remained unchanged from the OP5) . Also it will cost more as well, personally I wouldn't pay 600+ € for a OnePlus phone.
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All the OP6 needs is a camera software update (this one doesn't really make the sensors shine as they could) and some audio fixes that you can already get through modding. Nothing else imo.
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I was following your same way of thinking from the OP5 (at the time I didn't had to change my phone though) and I insta discarded both the OP5 and the OP5T just for the OIS lack. As far as I saw that the OP6 had it I already knew I was going to get it.
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I mean honestly that's all I need, currently don't have enough money to buy the op6 but I will for the op6t and I just want the newest rendition.

Pixel 3 worth it, Are any of the known issues a deal breaker.

First off i'm trying to decide on the Pixel 3 or S9 and I know asking here is kinda dumb but I wanna know if some of these issues are as big of a deal as the media plays them out to be? The issues i'm hearing about that bug me most are the speaker issues, will the low volume be fixed or is it a hardware thing? Also the back supposedly can be scratch quite easily, I went to best buy and tried to scratch it with my nail and it left a mark but it rubbed away. or is this more of a thing that coins will scratch it if put in a pocket with them? I had a Pixel 2 and the back never got scratched well I had it. Like I said I went to bestbuy and handled both the Pixel 3 and S9 and its a hard decision to choose. I like the make and build quality of the S9 but I hate it only comes in grey or purple here in Canada. It also has a beautiful screen. But the Pixel reminds me of my Pixel 2 plus it has the better camera. not that the s9 is bad just I don't like that it over exposes. Do you have a Pixel 3 do you recommend it and how's the battery life?
I've owned about 5 other phones before the Pixel 3. It's got the best speakers of any phone I've had. For me the volume is more than loud enough. I use a thin case so can't comment on the back being scratch prone. I haven't tried scratching it. Worst case you could get a skin for the back if you don't use a case and find it shows marks from your use. The screen is very good. If you're very picky about the display quality at low brightness you may not like it, but that's easy to test at a store before you buy it. The camera is excellent, so no worries there. For me the battery is as good or better than any other phone I've owned. After light use I have about 60% left at the end of the day. Of course, your past experience, expectations, preferences, needs and usage will determine whether it's a good phone for you. It what you've listed are your biggest concerns you'll likely be happy.
My general experience with the S9 was good apart from the battery life, the exynos processor version was shocking (i think this is the one you get in Canada too). Not sure if recent updates fixed this but it seemed like a huge complaint at the time, i couldn't get a day with moderate to heavy use.
With regards to the Pixel3 back texture, i have it naked and it's been rattling in my pockets (albeit i never put any phone in a pocket with coins or keys), it's perfectly fine and i would take this textured back over the slippy S9 any day. I have the Pixel2 also and it's a little scruffy on the back but unless you inspect it very closely it's perfectly fine.
Camera on the Pixel is way better in my opinion, you get a usable picture almost every time whereas the S9 i sometimes had to take several shots to get what i wanted.
I've had the Mate 20 Pro and iPhone XS this year also and the Pixel3 trumps all in my opinion.
I do have an outstanding issue open with Google however where the Pixel3's gyroscope sensor isn't calibrated correctly and so it's out by about 2-3 degrees. This means that when taking photos or using apps that use the gyroscope i have to hold the phone slightly off angle to make it think it's level. All that said i still consider it the best !
Is it worth upgrading from Pixel 2 (bought a new one for 350) to Pixel 3 (Pixel 3 would cost me 300€ extra)? I especially want to know, whether the super res zoom and the wide angle selfie camera is worth it - these are the two most outstanding differences between Pixel 2 and Pixel 3 in my opinion. If you know some other differences which are worth the additional 300€ please tell me.
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Is it worth upgrading from Pixel 2 (bought a new one for 350) to Pixel 3 (Pixel 3 would cost me 300€ extra)? I especially want to know, whether the super res zoom and the wide angle selfie camera is worth it - these are the two most outstanding differences between Pixel 2 and Pixel 3 in my opinion. If you know some other differences which are worth the additional 300€ please tell me.
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Wide angle is nicer than I thought although I hate taking selfies ROFL. Super res was a meh compared to dual cam phones but better than nothing.
I'm in the process of upgrading to P3 from P2 (crappy displays, locked bootloaders, RMAs, etc.) and side by side P3 looks so much more modern and if you like modern then it looks so much nicer.
I would be careful with your decision though since this year P3 won the honor to enjoy all the display issues P2XL went through last year, so getting a satisfactory display should be your first priority in my opinion. That said, a good display on P3 seems to be better than the "good" display of P2XL last year, as suggested by others over at P3XL forum and I agree (I ordered both P2 and XL last year and had a brief experience with XL). Anyway, once you get a good display hold on to it!
Other than that, I can't think of buying anything else at this moment mainly because I value stock experience, easiness of modding, and Dev support. Ironically we have the locked bootloader issue right now on both P3 and XL. The dev support was also far behind compared to old Nexus days. If One Plus offered a smaller version of 6T I might have jumped the ship.
P.s. camera is nice as always but being a home guy I use the display 1000x more than the camera so a good camera only means "this" little to me.
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Ironically we have the locked bootloader issue right now on both P3 and XL. The dev support was also far behind compared to old Nexus days. If One Plus offered a smaller version of 6T I might have jumped the ship.
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What issue are you having with the bootloader?
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What issue are you having with the bootloader?
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Check out the thread in this Pixel 3 QA and Pixel 3 XL QA section. Newer devices *may* come in with bootloader "un-unlockable" :cyclops: Some people received this *feature* on their new devices and some enjoyed it on the new, RMA devices.
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My general experience with the S9 was good apart from the battery life, the exynos processor version was shocking (i think this is the one you get in Canada too). Not sure if recent updates fixed this but it seemed like a huge complaint at the time, i couldn't get a day with moderate to heavy use.
With regards to the Pixel3 back texture, i have it naked and it's been rattling in my pockets (albeit i never put any phone in a pocket with coins or keys), it's perfectly fine and i would take this textured back over the slippy S9 any day. I have the Pixel2 also and it's a little scruffy on the back but unless you inspect it very closely it's perfectly fine.
Camera on the Pixel is way better in my opinion, you get a usable picture almost every time whereas the S9 i sometimes had to take several shots to get what i wanted.
I've had the Mate 20 Pro and iPhone XS this year also and the Pixel3 trumps all in my opinion.
I do have an outstanding issue open with Google however where the Pixel3's gyroscope sensor isn't calibrated correctly and so it's out by about 2-3 degrees. This means that when taking photos or using apps that use the gyroscope i have to hold the phone slightly off angle to make it think it's level. All that said i still consider it the best !
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We have the Snap Drangon one here in Canada, I believe Snap Dragon is sold in North America and Exynos is the rest of the world

What's your next phone purchase?

I like this device but it's a little slow for me at some points. It's not a shot at this device which I consider a decent value but I'm retty sure I'm going to move into something else, possibly this fall. That something being the Pixel 4, I like everything about it so far except I would have preferred a symmetrical bottom/top bezel. If I don't bolt this fall the spring is a near certainty but I've got no guess what might be the more interesting devices at that point. What about you folks, happy enough to have not considered it? Thinking about moving to the next thing? If so, what?
I might get the Pixel 4. It depends on what they do with ram and the cameras. I would like a telephoto lens on the back but so far I've been reading the second sensor may be a wide angle one.
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Google confirmed 3, wide angle, telephoto, and infrared. The last seems to be a bit of a mystery as to what it's going to be doing, some think it's for improving night shots but no one seems to know exactly what all it might do.
The 4a XL on a free trade, but might have to wait a bit...
ill get whatever phone is notchless and has a headphone jack
i got the pixel 3a xl for that exact reason, im sick of seeing bullet holes and notches on phones
I just read an updated article about the Goog leak and I need to make a correction, it's a spectral sensor, not infrared. My apologies for the misinformation. I'm still probably in, I've no idea what spectral is but it sounds like something I want.
Google self released preliminary images of the Pixel 4, and I got to say the square bump-out that holds two back cameras and a flash LED does not look great, either from Apple or Google. There was previous renderings of a slick smooth back with a flat oval that contained the cameras that that looked much more impressive. Consensus was that was a cool clean design. The feedback on what was recently released, not so much.
Copying Apple designs by itself does not guarantee success. The previous design looked original, however what they put out now just looks like another Apple clone...
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Google self released preliminary images of the Pixel 4, and I got to say the square bump-out that holds two back cameras and a flash LED does not look great, either from Apple or Google. There was previous renderings of a slick smooth back with a flat oval that contained the cameras that that looked much more impressive. Consensus was that was a cool clean design. The feedback on what was recently released, not so much.
Copying Apple designs by itself does not guarantee success. The previous design looked original, however what they put out now just looks like another Apple clone...
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ah who cares what the back looks like. put a case on it.
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Looks like the base stats are starting to get out there and the Pixel 4 is more and more shaping up to become my next phone. If Samsung hadn't made it such a pain to root I might consider the Note 10 but after suffering through the 8 I'm pretty much done with them unless a very unlikely turn around comes in their policies. These are really the only two that have been pinging on my radar, seems like their should be more but there is always some catch with phones nowadays...
I'm just hoping the hideous notched display and useless curved edge display era is over across the next generation of phones. It definitely limited my choices this go around because I'm not into gimmicks over practicality; but hey - that's just me.
The pixel 4 looks nice so far, and more OEMs are starting to ditch the display notches as well, so at least we'll have better options coming around in the future.
Yeah, no question, I didn't make friends with notches and at this point I'm sure I never will. Only had one as it turned out, the 6T, which didn't kill me but I never stopped noticing it as some people say they do.
Possibly the Pixel 4 but if ASUS gets the Zenfone 6 out soon in Canada I may get it.
Can you root those?
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Possibly the Pixel 4 but if ASUS gets the Zenfone 6 out soon in Canada I may get it.
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I stick with Google. Got the 3a XL on Friday after dropping my 2 XL on hard concrete :crying:
The software is the best I have ever seen on phones, I just root the phone and call it a day. Easy updates every month. No hassle.
This is worth more to me than screen-to-body-ratio or industrial design or whatnot. Crappy or outdated software ruins everything anyways.
But YMMW, just an opinion
I wouldn't mind the faster Snapdragon 855 over our 670, but I do admit my 3a XL is mostly good enough speed wise.
So... Air gestures and face ID confirmed on the Pix 4 today. I'm so in...
Ill get the pixel 4a xl. Basically the lighter version of pixel 4xl with some minor upgrades battery and screen size,for example i dont need the face recognition ,a finger print scanner is fine,and i dont need 4 cameras one 16 back and 16 front is fine with me ,mind you im a mobile photographer.And a simple plastic white back no glass cause i really dont use wireless charging and the lastic does not feel far from the glass back of the pixel 3.Tbh the android 10 almost is the perfect os for me so no extra stuff there.What i really want to have is bokah on video and real time captions and translation ,but im sure google has that on lock
I wouldn't want to guess how Goog will gimp the A versions to make them "mid range" devices. I sure didn't see them leaving the cool live wallpaper out on the 3A's as an example.
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ill get whatever phone is notchless and has a headphone jack
i got the pixel 3a xl for that exact reason, im sick of seeing bullet holes and notches on phones
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Here here to that ?
I've decided to get a OnePlus 7 Pro. I just can't see paying $1,000+ for a Pixel 4 XL. I like my 3A XL, but it is slow, honestly, and just not up to the performance I want out of a smartphone.
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Why I'm Thrilled about the Pixel 5

I know many are disappointed with seemingly mediocre specs for a flagship, but I'm very happy with the design choices in the Pixel 5. Here's why:
Aluminum body. I've had enough of the completely impractical "premium" glass bodies that crack when you look at them wrong. Finally a return to something sensible.
Flat OLED. Seems like every flagship has to have curved edges. I haven't seen one phone yet that didn't have imperfections in the curve or drive me crazy with errant touches on the edges. Simple is better.
Return of the fingerprint scanner
NO NOTCH
Reasonable size. It seems like the flagship race always equates "bigger" with "better". I don't subscribe to that theory, and I'm glad to see a more modest size for the Pixel 5.
I do wish it had the Snapdragon 865, Wifi 6, and the telephoto lens, but every other choice was perfect IMO. Even with the CPU, I'm sure that choice was about cost, so it might be the right cost/performance trade-off to go with the 765G. Time will tell, I suppose.
What are your thoughts? Do you feel like this was a step backward or does anyone else feel the same about these design choices?
The form factor is what really sold me. Almost identical to the Essential (RIP)
Coming from the Pixel 4, the Pixel 5 has all of the changes I desire. Making it a no brainer, for me.
Lower power chipset / Less PPI / Larger battery -- All culminating to improved battery life. Probably by a good margin, in daily use.
No Active Edge / No Soli -- I disabled Active Edge and motion sense long ago as I found them more annoying than useful. I imagine not having the Soli chip will help to improve battery life even further.
Rear fingerprint reader -- YES!! These days I'm wearing a mask majority of the time I'm trying to use my phone, rendering face unlock useless. Having the fingerprint reader on the back is VERY welcomed.
Wide Angle Camera -- Another great addition. I don't need improved zoom quality. I need to be able to fit more content into a single picture.
The Pixel 5 is an improvement over the Pixel 4 in every way, in my opinion.
@sn0warmy Side note: your device history is what I wish mine looked like...
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@sn0warmy Side note: your device history is what I wish mine looked like...
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It's been a fun journey. I still remember the day I unboxed my Nexus One, right after it was launched. That was a special feeling and it opened the door into the crazy world of rooting/tinkering on Android devices. 10 years later, I'm making significantly more money with a lot more expensive toys and hobbies. Yet, Pixel launch day still gets me excited, every single year. It's the kid in me that will never grow up. :highfive:
All theses features in a 6' phone, it's perfect. I don't enjoy crazy big phones...
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@sn0warmy from someone that had the 3 XL - I hope this is a huge improvement as that is my current phone. I have pre-ordered it. What are your thoughts, 3 XL vs P5 (obv you can't say too much besides basing it on specs).
I'm going to get the pixel 5. Currently using 4 XL. My dilemma is that if Google will flash the prices by black Friday like last year. So I may wait till Thanksgiving.
Great price for pixel 5 though
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@sn0warmy from someone that had the 3 XL - I hope this is a huge improvement as that is my current phone. I have pre-ordered it. What are your thoughts, 3 XL vs P5 (obv you can't say too much besides basing it on specs).
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The 3XL was a great phone. But I've come to prefer smaller phones. Which is why I went from the 3XL to the 4 (non-XL). The Pixel 4 is a much better size for daily use, for me. So the Pixel 5 is going to be a great size, as well.
As far as features and specs...
1) The Pixel 5 has 2x the amount of RAM as the 3XL. I've come to learn that more RAM is much more crucial to having a consistently smooth experience over time, rather than having a top of the line processor. So the Snapdragon 765G in the Pixel 5 doesn't concern me in the least bit.
2) The Pixel 5 has a 4000mAh battery, which is nearly an 18% increase in capacity, compared to the 3400mAh battery in the 3XL. the Pixel 5 also has a 6.0" display, vs the 6.3" in the 3XL. But the Pixel 5 is also pushing more total pixels, so that may actually be a hit to battery life, between the two phones. Regardless, the Pixel 5 battery should outlast the 3XL battery by a decent margin.
3) Pictures taken with your Pixel 5 will be better than the 3XL. Will it be a huge improvement? Probably not. But it will be an improvement, nonetheless.
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I'm going to get the pixel 5. Currently using 4 XL. My dilemma is that if Google will flash the prices by black Friday like last year. So I may wait till Thanksgiving.
Great price for pixel 5 though
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That's actually a really good point, which I failed to consider. Last year Google dropped the price of the Pixel 4 by $200 over Black Friday weekend. It irritated a lot of people.
However, last year Google overestimated demand for the Pixel 4 by almost 30% (SOURCE). They were forced to unload inventory, hence the big price drops over Black Friday weekend and again in January, 2020. This year Google is being much more realistic about the total number of units they expect to sell and have adjusted production accordingly.
I do imagine you'll see some sort of promotion for the Pixel 5 over Black Friday weekend. It's in the best interest of online retailers to offer some sort of promotion when buyers are looking for the best deals. Fun fact: Many big name online retailers will generate upwards of 20% of their total yearly online revenue, just over Black Friday weekend.
With that said, I'll be very surprised if Google drops the price by $200 again. If I were a betting man, I'd wager that over Black Friday weekend you'll be able to snag a Pixel 5 for $75 - $100 off. Worst case, it will likely be a "Gift With Purchase" promotion, in which they give you a new Chromecast ($50 value) when you buy the Pixel 5.
@sn0warmy great. Exactly what I was thinking. Overall should be a better experience than the 3 XL especially due to the RAM increase. Looking forward to getting it.
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I'll be picking up a Pixel 5 a few updates down the road (gotta make sure the bugs and issues are worked out first). The Pixel 4 was a bust. It appears the Pixel 5 fixes all the things that went wrong there. I would get the 4a but it's plastic and not water repellant which is a non-starter.
I don't like bigger phones and coming from a Pixel 2 I think the 5 is just right with more screen real estate. The face unlock feature was just as ridiculous as the notch. So glad they are gone. Looks like I'll be able to pick the phone up and unlock it with the finger print sensor just like before (too easy).
As for the processor, they are so fast these days, they could have told you it was the faster chip and you would never have known. Most people don't do anything so intense that they really need all that extra umph anyway and if it lowers the price of a Google phone, great!
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Coming from the Pixel 4, the Pixel 5 has all of the changes I desire. Making it a no brainer, for me.
Lower power chipset / Less PPI / Larger battery -- All culminating to improved battery life. Probably by a good margin, in daily use.
No Active Edge / No Soli -- I disabled Active Edge and motion sense long ago as I found them more annoying than useful. I imagine not having the Soli chip will help to improve battery life even further.
Rear fingerprint reader -- YES!! These days I'm wearing a mask majority of the time I'm trying to use my phone, rendering face unlock useless. Having the fingerprint reader on the back is VERY welcomed.
Wide Angle Camera -- Another great addition. I don't need improved zoom quality. I need to be able to fit more content into a single picture.
The Pixel 5 is an improvement over the Pixel 4 in every way, in my opinion.
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I'm with you on the bigger battery and lower PPI (really lower resolution) to help with battery life but I wish it had the 865 chip. The processor doesn't even have a big impact on battery life when compared to the screen.
I don't care about Soli but I'm really going to miss the active edge. I don't know why you're happy that's gone when you can disable it anyways. Sometimes I like to use the assistant and make sure it's on my phone even if I have other nearby devices. Without active edge the only way to do that is to swipe diagonally from the corners which doesn't work like 75% of the time.
I'm also with you on the rear fingerprint reader. I didn't own a Pixel 4 but I did spend a day with one and the face unlock was awful.
For the camera I'd much rather have a telephoto than a wide angle. The wide angle basically useless to me. I have very often wish I could get closer to the subject of the photo but I've never wish I could get farther away.
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flamadiddle said:
I know many are disappointed with seemingly mediocre specs for a flagship, but I'm very happy with the design choices in the Pixel 5. Here's why:
Aluminum body. I've had enough of the completely impractical "premium" glass bodies that crack when you look at them wrong. Finally a return to something sensible.
Flat OLED. Seems like every flagship has to have curved edges. I haven't seen one phone yet that didn't have imperfections in the curve or drive me crazy with errant touches on the edges. Simple is better.
Return of the fingerprint scanner
NO NOTCH
Reasonable size. It seems like the flagship race always equates "bigger" with "better". I don't subscribe to that theory, and I'm glad to see a more modest size for the Pixel 5.
I do wish it had the Snapdragon 865, Wifi 6, and the telephoto lens, but every other choice was perfect IMO. Even with the CPU, I'm sure that choice was about cost, so it might be the right cost/performance trade-off to go with the 765G. Time will tell, I suppose.
What are your thoughts? Do you feel like this was a step backward or does anyone else feel the same about these design choices?
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I'm really happy about the aluminum back.
I actually like the feel of the curved edges on my Pixel 2 XL but I honestly don't really carry either way.
It doesn't have a notch but It does have a hole punch which to me is just as bad as the notch. Obstructed screen content is obstructed screen content either way. In fact after learning that the developer option to hide the cutout that was on the Pixel 3 XL isn't on the Pixel 5 has me considering canceling my pre-order.
You make a good point that the flagship race seems to mean bigger is better. I don't even think the Pixel 5 is a modest size I think it's still way too big. I really miss the days of one-handed use and comfortable pocket ability those days have been gone for years and are unlikely to return.
It would be nice to have an actual fast processor instead of the slow 765 but that I think I could probably deal with. I also really wish they would have kept the telephoto of the Pixel 4 instead of going to the wide angle. Or just have three lenses like other phones even at the same price point.
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I don't care about Soli but I'm really going to miss the active edge. I don't know why you're happy that's gone when you can disable it anyways.
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I wouldn't say I'm "happy" it's gone. Rather, I found it to be of little or no use. So removal of the associated hardware, which very well could have negatively impacted the battery, even when disabled, is perfectly fine with me.
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I wouldn't say I'm "happy" it's gone. Rather, I found it to be of little or no use. So removal of the associated hardware, which very well could have negatively impacted the battery, even when disabled, is perfectly fine with me.
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Yeah on stock it was really useless. On custom rom you could assign apps of actions to it which was really good. I think I am going to miss it
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I wouldn't say I'm "happy" it's gone. Rather, I found it to be of little or no use. So removal of the associated hardware, which very well could have negatively impacted the battery, even when disabled, is perfectly fine with me.
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It was essentially just a physical button. It wouldn't be a drain on the battery anymore than the volume buttons would is. Now there is no reliable way to activate the Google Assistant without voice which would trigger other near by devices too. That really sucks.
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It was essentially just a physical button. It wouldn't be a drain on the battery anymore than the volume buttons would is. Now there is no reliable way to activate the Google Assistant without voice which would trigger other near by devices too. That really sucks.
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Most likely due to the aluminum frame. Sad anyway
Benjamin_L said:
Most likely due to the aluminum frame. Sad anyway
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What is mostly due to the aluminum frame?
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What is mostly due to the aluminum frame?
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Getting rid of active edge I meant. Maybe I am also imagining it the wrong way.
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Getting rid of active edge I meant. Maybe I am also imagining it the wrong way.
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Having an aluminum frame doesn't have an impact on Active Edge. The Pixel 2 was the first phone to have Active Edge and it's aluminum.
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Having an aluminum frame doesn't have an impact on Active Edge. The Pixel 2 was the first phone to have Active Edge and it's aluminum.
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Hmm too bad they got rid of it then. Do we know yet who builds the P5?

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