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You're a power user. Can the OnePlus 2 keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the OnePlus 2. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I think the oneplus2 wont get the development as opo got. Most of the developers are selling their phones(eg. ak). Its really sad as I bought this phone expecting a healthy development community. And the worst part is , I have to use this phone for at least 2 years now
I miss OPO dev community
No official CM, no OxygenOS sources...
I'm quite disappointed to be honest. Coming from a Nexus 5 i was expecting to have Marshmallow by now.. No custom roms really that are worth installing. Also saw on oneplus forums that ~30 developers were going to develop for this phone. Where are they...
Beagan said:
I'm quite disappointed to be honest. Coming from a Nexus 5 i was expecting to have Marshmallow by now.. No custom roms really that are worth installing. Also saw on oneplus forums that ~30 developers were going to develop for this phone. Where are they...
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Same here, coming from a Nexus 4 :/
Coming from a Nexus 4 I'm somewhat disappointed as well but it's not that bad, CM is really stable and faster than Oxygen, maybe things will get better after official Marshmallow update
Its just a shame. The community they have over with the OPO is great. But here not so much. Hopefully they'll release the source code for the laser and fingerprint scanner. I'm not that hopeful though. I have my nexus 5 for 2 years. The longest I've kept a phone for and that was because of the development community
I just want to see MultiROM and Ubuntu for smartphones on OPT, but until now my OPT is fully stock..
I wouldn't even care if I stayed with stock as long as i had marsallow and the updates were fast. Oxygen is almost completely stock..
I still dont understand why they havent release the source code for this phone...
Oxygen, although is good, is lack a kicking ass power that can be brought by other custom rom and kernel... ::sigh
I really expect this development community will be as big as OPO... C'monn oneplus, be more reasonable, and dont overrate ypurself too much. You are just a little company without community support. Its the community that make OPO one of the best phone ever after all
I'd like to see what other people think about this. I can't really make or break a device
What are you guys saying? The community development is healthy. OnePlus did say they will release the source code for the finger print scanner when marshmallow is released. Releasing it right now for the Lollipop version would only be short lived since marshmallow will come out
This is such a pointless thread. The reason development is almost non-existent is due to the drivers for the fingerprint sensor and laser auto focus not being made publicly available. Once those are available with the Marshmallow update, then the development for this phone will take off. Its a matter of patience.
Development is going good. To justify the absence of the fingerprint scanner and laser autofocus codes as lack of development is inaccurate lol
ONeplus did say that the reason the codes for the fingerprint scanner were not released because the device is about to get the Marshmallow update. THey will begin to release it upon update. Patience my comrades
ak is selling his OPT? Whaaaaat?
I really wanted Oneplus 2 to be the Nexus killer.. but it seems that will never be true.
lurker316 said:
I really wanted Oneplus 2 to be the Nexus killer.. but it seems that will never be true.
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OP2 will never be a nexus killer. Its not a 2016 Flagship killer as they marketed it, hell its not even a 2015 flagship killer. But Its a one hell of a device. Great looks, good performance, its a decent little package. Only thing that's missing now is the community support. I know it still sucks that there isn't a CM13 rom yet. I have high hopes that this is gonna change with the official Android M update. The complete source will be available soon. Since the OP2 is available now without invite I guess more devs will get their hands on the device.
Stay positive guys. Cheers.
gobig89 said:
This is such a pointless thread. The reason development is almost non-existent is due to the drivers for the fingerprint sensor and laser auto focus not being made publicly available. Once those are available with the Marshmallow update, then the development for this phone will take off. Its a matter of patience.
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shigi1231 said:
What are you guys saying? The community development is healthy. OnePlus did say they will release the source code for the finger print scanner when marshmallow is released. Releasing it right now for the Lollipop version would only be short lived since marshmallow will come out
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i do agree with you both to some extent BUT i do think that OnePlus really dropped the ball. people don't want to wait 6-8 months for custom roms and in the time it takes OnePlus to release its code and for development to pick up, a lot of new devices came or will come to market (Moto X, Nexus etc..). the reason the OPO was so great is that it had good hardware and development was strong so it gave you options. the OPT also has great hardware but a lot of people myself included find Oxygen OS to be sub par and without any other option (i don't consider flashing a different rom and losing critical features a viable option), the phone becomes a lot less attractive.
considering the fact that OnePlus said that M will be coming in Q1 (i think that we can safetly assume end of march), waiting another 4 months seems a bit too much.
Rattles said:
i do agree with you both to some extent BUT i do think that OnePlus really dropped the ball. people don't want to wait 6-8 months for custom roms and in the time it takes OnePlus to release its code and for development to pick up, a lot of new devices came or will come to market (Moto X, Nexus etc..). the reason the OPO was so great is that it had good hardware and development was strong so it gave you options. the OPT also has great hardware but a lot of people myself included find Oxygen OS to be sub par and without any other option (i don't consider flashing a different rom and losing critical features a viable option), the phone becomes a lot less attractive.
considering the fact that OnePlus said that M will be coming in Q1 (i think that we can safetly assume end of march), waiting another 4 months seems a bit too much.
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Soon.. MM is coming from CM 13.. A official build is coming.. CM team is working on it..
Mehul.S said:
Soon.. MM is coming from CM 13.. A official build is coming.. CM team is working on it..
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i hope that you are right, i HATE Oxygen OS.
Hello everyone,
The Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge - International Edition's kernel has been made opensource (The one variant that we thought would never get an opensource kernel has got it, officially ), but I have a few questions :
Q1. Will Cyanogenmod ever come for it, because this phone will never get any version updates form Samsung, unless you buy the S8, S9 etc...etc....
Q2. Does this opensource kernel mean it can be directly used to compile a version of Android N on the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge - International Edition, without many hiccups ...... hiccup .
P.S. I do know that TWRP is available for this variant of the Samsung flagship,making it a 2016 developer phone, but is it worth it because the custom ROMs are not out yet to use, if they ever come, that is.
Here's a link to the page from where you can download it's kernel sources :
opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=sub&sub=F&searchValue=SM-G935F
Uh... kernel sources (I'm pretty sure) have always been avaliable for the exynos. The problem is exynos is closed source meaning it's harder to develop CM etc for it. This just means we can now have a custom kernel for our custom stock firmwares. I'm new to exynos so I may be wrong. But Sammy always releases kernel sources.
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A lot of parts of a unix kernel are based on open source development covered under GPL license. So every smartphone manufacturer is forced to release Kernel Sources within 90 days. So nothing new here. What kernel devs would need is a more structured, commented and documented code like Qualcomm SoCs get + the huge amount of kernel optimization done at Code Aurora Forums.
Samsung have to release the kernel source, it's part of what allows them to use Android. However, they don't release any more than they absolutely have to. Don't think for a minute this means we're going to end up with a stable release of CM13.
Though hopefully it does mean we should have some decent stock-based kernels soon.
The Million Dollar Question
Beefheart said:
Samsung have to release the kernel source, it's part of what allows them to use Android. However, they don't release any more than they absolutely have to. Don't think for a minute this means we're going to end up with a stable release of CM13.
Though hopefully it does mean we should have some decent stock-based kernels soon.
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Why do people then buy such expensive phones when they know it's not gonna get any updates and at the same time there is no Cyanogenmod or any other such custom ROMs like that, coming for it ? Wouldn't everyone just buy a Nexus then. There has to be more than this here, right ?
Sport_Boy28 said:
Why do people then buy such expensive phones when they know it's not gonna get any updates and at the same time there is no Cyanogenmod or any other such custom ROMs like that, coming for it ? Wouldn't everyone just buy a Nexus then. There has to be more than this here, right ?
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There will be custom roms + kernels but there won't be any official support by all the aosp crews... And for most ppl the quality of a phone is more important than dev potential. I like how good development is able to mod or optimize a phone. But buying a worse phone which never can catch up with the best ones even if the whole optimization potential is used only because you could optimize more is not an alternative for a lot of ppl...
Sport_Boy28 said:
Why do people then buy such expensive phones when they know it's not gonna get any updates and at the same time there is no Cyanogenmod or any other such custom ROMs like that, coming for it ? Wouldn't everyone just buy a Nexus then. There has to be more than this here, right ?
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Same reason they buy iPhone for.
Mix of marketing, product aesthetics, track record, level of grooming etc.
midreestaj said:
Same reason they buy iPhone for.
Mix of marketing, product aesthetics, track record, level of grooming etc.
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Lol or because the stock experience of the phone + stock rom + quality in every aspects is just great... I mean most ppl buy a phone to use it primarily and to mod/optimize it secondarily... For example if sd820 versions bootloader get unlocked sure they will push performance at 20% but it still wouldn't be competitive if it comes to battery life, app launching times and ram bandwidth of exynos...
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Lol or because the stock experience of the phone + stock rom + quality in every aspects is just great... I mean most ppl buy a phone to use it primarily and to mod/optimize it secondarily... For example if sd820 versions bootloader get unlocked sure they will push performance at 20% but it still wouldn't be competitive if it comes to battery life, app launching times and ram bandwidth of exynos...
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Agreed to above.
Stock ROM in my opinion is better over all for an average user (which is 95% of those who have purchased the handset)
Old news here. Been discussed already:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/sammobile-samsung-releases-kernel-t3334331
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/reminder-request-source-code-t3326034
CafeKampuchia said:
Old news here. Been discussed already:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/sammobile-samsung-releases-kernel-t3334331
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/reminder-request-source-code-t3326034
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As stated allready 2 threads on this we don't need another
As already been know, no custom roms were developed for Kirin proccesor?
Any chance for Honor 8 to receive one?
I like the phone, but not the UI...
We are working directly with Honor to get the proper assets needed for open development. It is a work in progress and we should know a lot more in the coming weeks.
If what the articles on XDA and what @svetius say are true, we should have all the required files to start building custom roms. Question is, with the recent release of N, are the to be provided Honor files going to be for M or N?
If anyone is interested, I have uploaded some documentation about the experience of developing custom roms to prior Kirin devices https://github.com/HiSilicon-Kirin/Documentation
It's pretty basic at the moment but if someone wants to read it you might find it helpful for future development.
COMI80 said:
As already been know, no custom roms were developed for Kirin proccesor?
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Thst's not true https://github.com/P8LiteDev/android_device_huawei_hi6210sft
Ok, my bad and I apologize .... and I rephrase - existing custom roms on previous Kirins are far from being fully functional.
But good news for future development and thanks everybody for replies.
As for the free lesson....
I have to buy a new phone soon as my z3c is experiencing touch problems (I'm out of warranty because i unlocked the bl...) plus there is no good development for it, and this honor 8 would completely meet my needs. but I'll wait first to see if good development for it will really arrive, otherwise will have to buy something else. really hope so though, also considering the amount of good advertising it is receiving in this forum!
i really like recent huawei phones, my gf has one (g8) which is very nice, but I've never got one myself because of the poor development i found for them.. so i hope some good devs will get this one in particular not too late and be able to properly work on it :fingers-crossed:
moly82 said:
I have to buy a new phone soon as my z3c is experiencing touch problems (I'm out of warranty because i unlocked the bl...)
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Not true, European laws state that if your phone is defective and you want to use the warranty, the OEM has to prove the malfunction was caused by your modifications. In most cases, unlocking the bootloader won't void your warranty. At least in Europe.
I've sent a few of my previous phones for repairs after flashing custom ROMs... And never had a problem. At least try, even if you want to buy the H8, your Z3c might be repaired regardless, and you would have a fully functional backup phone
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Ok, my bad and I apologize .... and I rephrase - existing custom roms on previous Kirins are far from being fully functional.
But good news for future development and thanks everybody for replies.
As for the free lesson....
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There was no big support that's why, but now honor is providing key devs anything they need to make the honor 8 great, let's hope for nougat
Lurdy said:
Not true, European laws state that if your phone is defective and you want to use the warranty, the OEM has to prove the malfunction was caused by your modifications. In most cases, unlocking the bootloader won't void your warranty. At least in Europe.
I've sent a few of my previous phones for repairs after flashing custom ROMs... And never had a problem. At least try, even if you want to buy the H8, your Z3c might be repaired regardless, and you would have a fully functional backup phone
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thanks, I know myself that is clearly true, but I have already tried, and they do not accept the in-warranty reparation, considering I am now blacklisted in their SW as last time I sent it for repair (again for a z3c famous and common defect on the magnetic port coming out, so nothing relevant to unlocking/flashing custom roms etc) they returned my phone not repaired because it was unlocked...
Well, honor 8 should get custom ROMs
moly82 said:
I have to buy a new phone soon as my z3c is experiencing touch problems (I'm out of warranty because i unlocked the bl...) plus there is no good development for it, and this honor 8 would completely meet my needs. but I'll wait first to see if good development for it will really arrive, otherwise will have to buy something else. really hope so though, also considering the amount of good advertising it is receiving in this forum!
i really like recent huawei phones, my gf has one (g8) which is very nice, but I've never got one myself because of the poor development i found for them.. so i hope some good devs will get this one in particular not too late and be able to properly work on it :fingers-crossed:
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If you want to try an honor phone with Great Rom support look no further than the 5X (GR5) >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-5x
Personally I will pass on the Honor 8 because of the smaller screen size and the kirin processor
yeah i did read about it in this forum but i prefer honor 8 because of the smaller screen I'm the opposite, don't like too big phones actually honor 8 would be even a little too big for me, but could buy it anyway and that's really the maximum size allowed for me processor will be fine as long as development will arrive, if not will probably buy a mi5
Can do a custom rom, but first need a firmware.
If I decide to get this phone, and support for custom ROM's becomes a thing, I feel like the best feature in custom ROM's would be tweaks to the Smart Key aka the fingerprint sensor. Just like with my OnePlus X, many custom ROM's let you set the alert slider for silence, vibrate, ring, or the default DND/priority notification toggle. So I feel like instead of only being able to set 3 functions to the Smart Key, tweaks would allow it to have more than 3 and set it for things that the system doesn't normally allow. That would be awesome in my opinion.
Previously till now, Kirin processor is always a deal breaker for me. I own a Honor 4X with CM12.1 installed.
No custom ROM avaliablity meaning only HUAWEI can provide future updates to us, that's not a good news.
honestly, i am also hesitant about the kirin processor.
i went on a mall last sunday to check the p9 which is most likely the same look except for the hardware and i dont know if i can really take something not close to vanilla android.. but im actually hopeful.. im confused.
yes chance for custom roms
we can expect custom roms for honor 8 in near future but developers work in their leisure time to build custom roms so wait until the kernel sources are released by huawei once they are released there will be different AOSP/cyanogen based ROMS for honor 8.
but never ask for ETAs:angel:
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we can expect custom roms for honor 8 in near future but developers work in their leisure time to build custom roms so wait until the kernel sources are released by huawei once they are released there will be different AOSP/cyanogen based ROMS for honor 8.
but never ask for ETAs:angel:
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It isn't the kernel source what's needed to build roms (although it's useful), but proper documentation from them.
Huawei nova has SD625, if u not want honor 8
Once they release proper files needed to start development, then we have pretty good devs out there who will start working on ROM immediately.
Although the kernel source is available, there aren't any projects, custom roms/kernels, no miui modifications and barely working custom recovery.. I get it the device is new but so are other devices that have so much projects... But why is our device so empty? I bet it has a huge potential for custom teams..
Xiaomi isn't interested in actively supporting independent ROM development for their devices. The reason there is a lot of development for One Plus phones is that One Plus sends free phones to developers. Xiaomi does not do that and wants its customers to use the stock ROM. Official LOS is supposedly in development for the Mix 2S but if you need custom ROMs you bought the wrong phone. In the future you should probably see what the development thread looks like before buying.
What about other Xiaomi devices? They have custom support.
Well the custom recovery is actually working pretty good. You can use the treble roms, rr is daily driver ready... Currently there are people working on aosp for our device, when we have a working aosp other roms will follow based on it
If you look into how many devices were sold, you'll figure out why so little development.
ManicStreetPreacher said:
If you look into how many devices were sold, you'll figure out why so little development.
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I can see that, but it's definitely surprising how few official developer ROMs (zero) have been released since this phone has been in existence. I know it's been stated that developers are working on it, but I haven't seen anything.
The camera is the constraining factor. No point having a good custom ROM if there is no GCam or MIUI camera port because you could have got a much cheaper phone if you don't care about camera.
I really regret buying this buggy device. Last time I buy something that doesn't run stock Android out of the box.
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The camera is the constraining factor. No point having a good custom ROM if there is no GCam or MIUI camera port because you could have got a much cheaper phone if you don't care about camera.
I really regret buying this buggy device. Last time I buy something that doesn't run stock Android out of the box.
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So you say people buy this phone only because of the good camera?
What cheaper phone could you get with the same performance as 845?
MIUI port already exist, yes for other devices, but it can be made for 2S with a finger snap. Devs just don't have interest in this device, sadly..
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So you say people buy this phone only because of the good camera?
What cheaper phone could you get with the same performance as 845?
MIUI port already exist, yes for other devices, but it can be made for 2S with a finger snap. Devs just don't have interest in this device, sadly..
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I do not care about processor. I just wanted full-screen with no notch and a good camera.
Its strange that there are no devs for this phone? Or its under development?
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Well, we were waiting on you to create one... why isn't it out yet?
Asus devices don't attract much devs (check 5z thread) all devs this year took a op7 pro. By far only op7pro is sd855 device that has multiple custom roms. Mi 9, op7, s10, k20pro nothing so far
DevilRockr said:
Asus devices don't attract much devs (check 5z thread) all devs this year took a op7 pro. By far only op7pro is sd855 device that has multiple custom roms. Mi 9, op7, s10, k20pro nothing so far
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Mi 9 has official Pixel Experience.
Z6 is out for a very short time, not even released on many markets. I think it's gonna have good ROM scene as Asus sent the phones to Arnova, LineageOS devs and others.
https://www.xda-developers.com/asus-zenfone-6-custom-rom-twrp-lineageos/
DevilRockr said:
Asus devices don't attract much devs (check 5z thread) all devs this year took a op7 pro. By far only op7pro is sd855 device that has multiple custom roms. Mi 9, op7, s10, k20pro nothing so far
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5z has issue with the source code for RIL.
Eventually, they manage to get it working. Now many custom rom will follow soon.
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5z has issue with the source code for RIL.
Eventually, they manage to get it working. Now many custom rom will follow soon.
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I hope man, i can see how community is dying comparing to golden days of galaxy s3, nexus 5, s4 miss those days man?
I hope this phone will finally get good support from developers, now I'm consider if I should buy OP 7 pro with its many issues but great support or go for Zenfone 6...
sonderling said:
I hope this phone will finally get good support from developers, now I'm consider if I should buy OP 7 pro with its many issues but great support or go for Zenfone 6...
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A bunch of developers received free phones a month or so ago
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.xda-developers.com/asus-zenfone-6-custom-rom-twrp-lineageos/amp/
I guess that with so few phones in the hands of consumers things might take a while to get going....
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A bunch of developers received free phones a month or so ago
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.xda-developers.com/asus-zenfone-6-custom-rom-twrp-lineageos/amp/
I guess that with so few phones in the hands of consumers things might take a while to get going....
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Yep, I've heard about that sometime ago... But till now, I don't see that the support has increased.
I can't talk about Z6 in particular, but lack of Roms for many devices is one massive problem these days. In the past we had a dozen of popular devices on the market and everyone was developing Roms and keep them updated. Today we have hundreds of different devices available, so it's nearly impossible to develop Roms and keep them updated to most of the devices.
I wish it was like 5/10 years ago when we had no problems at all deciding which device we should buy and had a lot of available Roms for them.
Support for the Zenfone 6 is coming as Asus is changing their politics towards custom development. It will come, just let's encourage the devs!
There's a rom just released
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