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Samsung needs to get rid of the ambient light sensor used by always on display.

always on display is a great tool. but it isn't nearly as effective when it is displayed so dimly. the ambient light sensor of this app is terrible. it is almost impossible to see most of the time. i think that samsung needs to give us a setting to use adaptive sensor, 50% or 100% on. this would benefit everyone. it is NOT bright enough to bother anyone trying to go to sleep, when it is on its brightest. but it is sharp and easy to see when it is on its brightest. so please samsung, people want the ability to make decisions about these kinds of things. allow us a few brightness choices for the always on display.

Totally agree! I've found it is useless for me especially at night with how dim it is.
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Devhux said:
Totally agree! I've found it is useless for me especially at night with how dim it is.
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It would be harder to see during the day, not at night.
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I like it when its dim most of the time, and bow bright it goes when i look at it outside to see the clock without turnin on the screen. My issue is its not reliable. Sometimes it doesnt turn off when i put it in my pocket, or it turns off in my pocket but when i take it out it doesnt turn on ?? Anyone with this issue ?? Im on .22 version.

I like how dim it is now. I put my phone on a wireless charger stand on my desk and it was annoying see it bright and bouncing around so I stopped using then.

I beg to differ.... as I actually prefer it to be as dim as possible - especially in a dark room.
Remember what the purpose it is for...
That being said, I do agree with the OP for wanting it to be adjustable - it should be!

kittiyut said:
I beg to differ.... as I actually prefer it to be as dim as possible - especially in a dark room.
Remember what the purpose it is for...
That being said, I do agree with the OP for wanting it to be adjustable - it should be!
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I feel the same. Someone above said it was especially hard to see at night, but that makes no sense as it is perfectly visible at night.

If you applied the update, and want to get rid of the dimmer display, just go into the Application Manager and delete AOD. That will uninstall the update and revert to the original version.

CuBz90 said:
I feel the same. Someone above said it was especially hard to see at night, but that makes no sense as it is perfectly visible at night.
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To be fair, I usually would use it at night. I don't have the best vision and usually do want it a bit brighter than most would.
I guess I should have clarified that - for my case I commented on nighttime viewing since that's where I usually had it enabled. It really is something that needs to be adjustable
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Devhux said:
To be fair, I usually would use it at night. I don't have the best vision and usually do want it a bit brighter than most would.
I guess I should have clarified that - for my case I commented on nighttime viewing since that's where I usually had it enabled. It really is something that needs to be adjustable
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Ah ye I understand what you mean. Sorry if I caused any offense.
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AMOLED screen burn-in

I'm using Waze app every single day for about 1.5 hour.
in the past when i had galaxy S4, after 2 month of daily use, i noticed on white pages i still see all the static banners and buttons of waze.
baisically, using Waze in daily basis, burn-in my screen in the static area of the app like the up and down banners, speed meter etc...
Can it happen also in my new galaxy s8+? what to you think? did the amoled technology haven't changed a lot in the past 4 or 5 years?

There is a new feature in Waze called battery saver, it dims the screen when you are over a certain speed and a certain distance from the next instruction, that might help with it.
Though to be honest I use it for about the same amount of time everyday and don't even think about any burn in, its definitely not something that I've noticed happening on my phone so far

Shaady said:
its definitely not something that I've noticed happening on my phone so far
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So far.... the phone is pretty new so we can tell right now. hope it will never happen but my S4 experience keeps me worried about this phenomenon.

Shaady said:
There is a new feature in Waze called battery saver, it dims the screen when you are over a certain speed and a certain distance from the next instruction, that might help with it.
Though to be honest I use it for about the same amount of time everyday and don't even think about any burn in, its definitely not something that I've noticed happening on my phone so far
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I looked in Waze setting and could not find this option. Where is this option?

Shaady said:
There is a new feature in Waze called battery saver, it dims the screen when you are over a certain speed and a certain distance from the next instruction, that might help with it.
Though to be honest I use it for about the same amount of time everyday and don't even think about any burn in, its definitely not something that I've noticed happening on my phone so far
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i can't find this option in waze.... which app version installed on your phone? which country?

I had that problem with my s7 edge. I got it changed on warranty. I'm too scared to use waze on my s8+.
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mouzam said:
I had that problem with my s7 edge. I got it changed on warranty. I'm too scared to use waze on my s8+.
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How much time did you use your s7 before the burn-in happen?
How much time you used waze each day?

Flame Red said:
I looked in Waze setting and could not find this option. Where is this option?
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Today i received an update to waze from play store and the function was added :good:

Definitely can still happen on the s8+. I'd recommend not having your screen excessively bright while static images are on screen if you can help it. It's a pain but this is just an unfortunate trade-off with these beautiful screens.

xeathpk said:
Definitely can still happen on the s8+. I'd recommend not having your screen excessively bright while static images are on screen if you can help it. It's a pain but this is just an unfortunate trade-off with these beautiful screens.
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It's not a trade-off. It can happen with virtually ANY type of display. LCD, LED, OLED, etc. No mobile phone display is immune.

pieces of cake said:
It's not a trade-off. It can happen with virtually ANY type of display. LCD, LED, OLED, etc. No mobile phone display is immune.
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I'm sorry if you dont like it but its the truth. I absolutely love the Samsung phones so I'm not against the phone. I've had the Note, S3, S4, S5, S6E, S7E and now the S8+.
I'm the first person to correct somebody wrongly bashing these phones but in this case it is what it is mate. Its well documented and accepted as fact that screen burn in on Amoled is more prevalent than some other display technologies. You need to be a little bit more mindful with Amoled if you want to keep the screen looking nice with heavy use.

xeathpk said:
I'm sorry if you dont like it but its the truth. I absolutely love the Samsung phones so I'm not against the phone. I've had the Note, S3, S4, S5, S6E, S7E and now the S8+.
I'm the first person to correct somebody wrongly bashing these phones but in this case it is what it is mate. Its well documented and accepted as fact that screen burn in on Amoled is more prevalent than some other display technologies. You need to be a little bit more mindful with Amoled if you want to keep the screen looking nice.
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Based on your response, it's apparent that you didn't quite grasp mine. Anyway, cheers!

pieces of cake said:
Based on your response, it's apparent that you didn't quite grasp mine. Anyway, cheers!
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Based on your first response you obviously didn't grasp mine at all whatsoever. I wasn't comparing Amoled directly to any other screen technology but the fact remains that the prevelance of screen burn in is generally higher than other screen types in general. That's not just conjecture on my part.
Its accepted fact. Also I'd appreciate it if you dropped the childish, rude and flippant attitude towards me. I was simply responding to your straw man argument.

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Based on your first response you obviously didn't grasp mine at all whatsoever. I wasn't comparing Amoled directly to any other screen technology but the fact remains that the prevelance of screen burn in is generally higher than other screen types in general. That's not just conjecture on my part.
Its accepted fact. Also I'd appreciate it if you dropped the childish, rude and flippant attitude towards me. I was simply responding to your straw man argument.
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Yeah, ok then. Enjoy!

XkobiX said:
How much time did you use your s7 before the burn-in happen?
How much time you used waze each day?
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There was one week where I used it excessively. And I kept the screen full bright. When I saw the screen burn in with the arrow of waze navigation. I started looking up on the Internet to solve the burn in issue somehow. That's when I found out that it's a common issue on amoled screens apparently. And the only way to solve it was to send it back to Samsung for a repair or replacement.
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There was one week where I used it excessively. And I kept the screen full bright. When I saw the screen burn in with the arrow of waze navigation. I started looking up on the Internet to solve the burn in issue somehow. That's when I found out that it's a common issue on amoled screens apparently. And the only way to solve it was to send it back to Samsung for a repair or replacement.
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Yeah unfortunately its one of those things that you just have to be mindful of, even when you're not on full brightness.
I was pretty lucky with most of my galaxy phones especially considering how heavily I used them, although my S7E was an exception.
I still have the phone and after just 13 months you can clearly see discoloration on the screen and admittedly very feint burn in on UI elements ie. the status bar. The screen discoloration is pretty bad and perfectly matches the YouTube app, where the video is playing up top and the static white comment section below put uneven "wear" on my screen. I'm now trying to make a habit to watch longer YouTube videos in fullscreen to avoid a similar result.

mouzam said:
There was one week where I used it excessively. And I kept the screen full bright. When I saw the screen burn in with the arrow of waze navigation. I started looking up on the Internet to solve the burn in issue somehow. That's when I found out that it's a common issue on amoled screens apparently. And the only way to solve it was to send it back to Samsung for a repair or replacement.
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So they replaced it for you? If it is so common on amoled display, they still replace or repair burned in screens?

XkobiX said:
So they replaced it for you? If it is so common on amoled display, they still replace or repair burned in screens?
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Yes they did. I rang samsung and told them about the issue. They got the phone picked up from my house. I was expecting them to probably just replace the screen but to my shock they sent me a brand new sealed s7 edge.
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Amoled is notorious for burn-ins. I would avoid using any app for prolonged periods of time.

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It's not a trade-off. It can happen with virtually ANY type of display. LCD, LED, OLED, etc. No mobile phone display is immune.
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I work for a carrier and never in my 14 years have I seen a LCD screen burn in I have however seen multiple AMOLED panels with burn in especially demo phones (yes on all day rolling content but so are the LCD models) this is a risk with organic displays to his point is true it is a trade off whichever way you sugercoat it

My impressions/review of the phone, in small episodes

I have been putting out information about U11+ in hamdir's thread for couple of days. I thought may be I should collate all the information and create a thread. So, here it is. Note that I am going to keep adding stuff as I use the phone everyday to point out the good the bad and the ugly. Go ahead and ask questions. If its possible for me, I will try to answer.
Quick update
Very quick update folks....
I got the amazing silver in my hands now. Been fiddling with options etc. for last 30 mins.
It a thing of beauty, let me tell you that first and foremost!! Amazing silver is really a shiny light blue colour. I love it!
Indoors, its brighter than my HTC 10 Tianma display. By how much? I don't know but its uncomfortably high for me at max. I won't use it at anywhere close to max. May be around 50%. Can't compare outdoor in direct sunlight until tomorrow. Will update again.
The weight is not a concern for me, its a little bit more than my 10 but not by much. The screen is gorgeous and much better than 10!!
The FP scanner is a little bit of a problem for me because I am not used to the rear scanner. I am finding it odd to pick the phone to use it. But I knew this going in. So, some mental recalibration is necessary. I can see OCD types hating this aspect, but I am fine with it.
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Couple of more quick updates:
1. Speakers are much better than HTC 10. Louder and clearer. You would be very pleased to hear these if you upgrade from HTC 10. Just saw the infinity war trailer on it and listened through Thriller....
2. Lowest screen brightness gets very low. Good for night time, in-dark browsing. Much lower than HTC 10.
3. The screen gets much blacker than HTC10 in "day dream" or "always on" mode in the complete darkness, which may help with battery if you are thinking of keeping AOD on always. The "light bleed" associated with LCD panels is still there through. In fact, its little uneven compared to HTC 10. On HTC 10, you can clearly see that the whole screen is lit up but only the text is brighter. On U11+, the lower left part of the screen is almost complete black whereas the right side shows more light bleed. I don't know if its a defect in my unit or its just something impossible to achieve during LCD panel manufacturing. Not perfection but not a big deal for me.
The default is not AOD but it is turn on the dimly lit display when you pick up the phone.
Double tap to wake works (someone asked earlier). On display button let's you put it to sleep in case you don't want to press power button to lock/put it sleep.
So far, thrilled to get this phone. I hope we work out TWRP really quick, root and I can move to this phone as my daily driver.
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GSMArena got the battery life wrong on this phone or they tested a different phone. I have been setting up, installing apps, syncing email accounts and generally fiddling with this phone for past 3-4 hours with 1h40m of SOT (screen brightness at 50% with Auto on, my typical setting for HTC 10) and it has consumed about 16% of battery. Haven't got that kind of battery life from any phone I have used or seen anybody else use in practical terms (I don't believe in artificial benchmarks). I think there is nothing to worry about battery life on this phone. This will last even the big time users through the day (10-12 hour day) easily.
One thing i notice is that its idling very well when turned off. My HTC 10 did not do that very well. So, the wifi chip seems to have been fixed up.
Note that its running 8.0.0 with Oct 1st patch. So, this has to still get the 8.1.1 release, which potentially should improve things.
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Its still morning here in bay area and not afternoon sunny yet. But with the morning sun behind me, I can clearly say that U11+ is better than my HTC10. With HTC camera app, I looked through a chain of balconies shaded by trees, and sun behind me, to see how far each screen shows me. Side by side, I could see more detail and farther in U11+. This is highly unscientific but the brightness in sunlight is an upgrade from HTC10 Tianma to U11+. I will try to get some photos of the two phones' camera app in sunlight later in the day.
I think brightness jump is not huge from HTC 10, but its big enough for me to say I feel more comfortable taking photos/videos outdoors. Note that Camera sensor may also be playing a role in this. HTC 10 has a smaller f/1.8 aperture. So, more testing may be needed on the screen brightness in general. But practically speaking, I browsed around and I had no trouble reading text with sun behind me, falling directly on the phone. That's good for me, 500 nits or not.
I tried with both Auto brightness enabled and disabled, at max brightness. Results are same.
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Someone asked about the FP gestures earlier. I did not find any settings for them and moving the finger around on FP in any direction or double tapping it, does not do anything. So, no gestures on FP, yet.
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Someone had asked for 4G/LTE support in the US. At least in the area I am in (bay area, CA), the coverage is same as what I got in HTC 10 on T Mobile.
Regarding the wifi, its much better than HTC 10. I compared side by side and HTC10 needed to be closer to the router by about 10 feet to be able to do speedtest from the point where I could speedtest on U11+ and still get full 90Mbps download speed. U11+ has an excellent wifi range and throughput. I get around -71dBm (signal strength) from my router at a spot where my HTC10 gives me -83dBm. At that spot, U11+ maxes out the internet traffic, whereas 10 is limited to about 45Mbps. So, anyone with HTC 10 will appreciate the huge jump in performance of wifi.
Also, the idling issue found with HTC 10's wifi is not there in U11+. It does not eat through battery while idling on wifi.
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Couple of more inputs:
1. I went to work with the phone but unfortunately I did not have the other phones with me to click the photos in bright sunlight but I can tell you, the screen has no problems in the sun. It is very bright and very usable for me. Unless you have a defective unit, the brightness of the screen should not be a concern at all. My experience is only HTC 10 vs U11+, and I am loving the brightness upgrade.
2. Usage with my sunglasses. I can not use HTC 10 in portrait mode with my sunglasses on. It goes complete dark. I did not have any issues with U11+ in both portrait and landscape orientations. Am I thrilled to wear my sunglasses in the car again? HELL YEAH!!!
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jmitr said:
Sound wise, nothing so far has beat my M7 for in ear quality. If the U11+ proves a worthy successor in that area as well, my M7 may sit in the desk drawer for the first time in over 4 years!!!
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Make your M7 a cosy bed in that drawer because its going in there for sure and for a long time.... U11+ is big upgrade (from M7 and 10, both of which I own) in sound department, both the speakers and the USB-C headphone jack, through the bundled earbuds. I have found the bundled USB-C earbuds to be of very high quality. I usually throw away packaged earbuds because they usually fall off from my ear but these fit in my ear very well. And boy they block the noise!!! I have no complaints about the missing 3.5mm jack.
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Thanks a lot for all these info. Looking forward to receiving my unit as well and start testing! I have high hopes for this one and I believe I will not be disappointed.

Thanks for all very detailed and useful things mentions.
It’s positive that more and more people having the device and the general impression is in very good level at all aspects despite all that crap GSM arena mention with their tragic review.
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Did you hook it up to the TV yet? I wonder why nobody does that. It's a very useful feature that not many modern smartphones offer unfortunately.
I wish HTC would advertise this special feature a bit more... It's underrated and underreported.

Thank you for all this info.
I Pre-Ordered one but I was skeptical with THE BAD review that I read.
I was thinking of canceling my order but now I just can't wait to get my hands on it

lebigmac said:
Did you hook it up to the TV yet? I wonder why nobody does that. It's a very useful feature that not many modern smartphones offer unfortunately.
I wish HTC would advertise this special feature a bit more... It's underrated and underreported.
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Honestly, I don't use this feature anymore. In fact, with casting feature working so well (AC wifi) and its so very convenient compared to the wire, casting gets used most of the time. I used to do this but I never bothered to buy the USB-C cable with my HTC 10.
May be I will try this again. Try some gaming on the big TV screen, fun fun fun!!

screen casting with chromecast or similar technologies always has a noticeable lag of 1-2 seconds. With direct cable connection there is no lag.

lebigmac said:
Did you hook it up to the TV yet? I wonder why nobody does that. It's a very useful feature that not many modern smartphones offer unfortunately.
I wish HTC would advertise this special feature a bit more... It's underrated and underreported.
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What do you want to know?? I did it. But is like mirror screen
Not have desktop mode like Mate 10

detritu5 said:
What do you want to know?? I did it. But is like mirror screen
Not have desktop mode like Mate 10
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How is the video and audio quality? Is it real-time or is there any noticeable lag?
And what cable did you use? Thanks.

So can you please describe us the AOD(always on display)feature how it works with HTC.
Does it have the same customization option as with Samsung or LG(v30)with variety of clock or colors option,image background support,music control(play-pause-forward) and if support notifications from any kind app.
Also when receiving notification and hit it on the screen does it open directly the specific app or not.
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AptX HD and LDAC and display
devsk said:
I have been putting out information about U11+ in hamdir's thread for couple of days. I thought may be I should collate all the information and create a thread. So, here it is. Note that I am going to keep adding stuff as I use the phone everyday to point out the good the bad and the ugly. Go ahead and ask questions. If its possible for me, I will try to answer.
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hi, i have two question
first i'd be appreciated if you tell us how is the bluetooth headphone quality on u11+ ? beacuse i know u11+ has AptX HD and LDAC
and my second question is about the display
is the display quality, color range, black colors, ... near amoled display ?

paatha13 said:
So can you please describe us the AOD(always on display)feature how it works with HTC.
Does it have the same customization option as with Samsung or LG(v30)with variety of clock or colors option,image background support,music control(play-pause-forward) and if support notifications from any kind app.
Also when receiving notification and hit it on the screen does it open directly the specific app or not.
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AOD on HTC U11+, in my opinion, leaves a lot to be desired. Few observations:
1. It only has two modes: a. show dimly lit clock/lock screen when picked up, b. always on mode, which is fixed 24/7 or on a time schedule. It lacks the mode "show dimly lit clock/lock screen when notifications arrive and repeat every 5 mins until cancelled".
2. Always On mode is a hog. Nearly 2% per hour idling. Not very useful. Its darker than any LCD I have seen before but it still show most of the display in complete darkness.
It does not provide any customization in either mode. You get 4 types of clock and that's about it. It shows apps (including music app) and their notifications with icons on small area and clicking takes to the app after unlock.

e_georgia said:
hi, i have two question
first i'd be appreciated if you tell us how is the bluetooth headphone quality on u11+ ? beacuse i know u11+ has AptX HD and LDAC
and my second question is about the display
is the display quality, color range, black colors, ... near amoled display ?
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I don't have bluetooth headsets to test this sorry.
But the display is the best LCD I have seen. It can not be equal to amoled in terms of blacks, but its the closest that an LCD has come in terms of blacks. I think the LCD technology does not allow this any better compared to amoled in terms of blacks. The contrast is amazing and the brightness is very very good. The usage in direct sunlight is very comfortable.
Unless you want to knit pick (like always on display has slight light bleed, which is the result of them trying too hard to emulate "black"), you won't have any issues with this display.

lebigmac said:
How is the video and audio quality? Is it real-time or is there any noticeable lag?
And what cable did you use? Thanks.
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I specifically bought the HDMI->USB-C cable from Amazon for $19 (one of the most expensive cables I have bought) and tested it. It works great. No lags in the video (my TV is 1080p). The sound through my sound system sounded great.
The link to cable: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075JGM4W8

Idle drain is very minimal
It looks like wifi draining the battery when idling that was seen and documented by me on HTC10, is gone on U11+. I left the sync ON, data and wifi ON overnight. And I lost 2% battery in about 10 hours. This is how it should be.
Very very pleased with the battery and the phone overall. For me, this phone gets almost everything right. It will get better once I get hold of root on it.

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I don't have bluetooth headsets to test this sorry.
But the display is the best LCD I have seen. It can not be equal to amoled in terms of blacks, but its the closest that an LCD has come in terms of blacks. I think the LCD technology does not allow this any better compared to amoled in terms of blacks. The contrast is amazing and the brightness is very very good. The usage in direct sunlight is very comfortable.
Unless you want to knit pick (like always on display has slight light bleed, which is the result of them trying too hard to emulate "black"), you won't have any issues with this display.
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how about the audio quality of headphones ?

Does the phone get hot with brightness on max? Or during heavy downloading of Apps or charging?
How long does a full charge take?
Are you using a case / cover? Noticed any scratches on the back?
Does YouTube allow you to stretch to full screen?
Thanks!
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Great feedback on this device. Thanks for doing this @devsk
I am in SF also. I have been seriously torn about buying a international no warranty phone. I jumped to the LG V30, purchased from B & H then cancelled the order a couple days ago.
However, I ordered the U11+ last night from Amazon - NGP Store USA. They get decent reviews but have a really strict return policy. I tried the U11 earlier this year but returned it. The U11+ had all the U11 was missing + more. [emoji3]
-- Who did you buy from and did you entertain buying a warranty? If so, from who.
-- Cases seem to be limited. Do you purchase one?
Thanks.

johninsf said:
Great feedback on this device. Thanks for doing this @devsk
I am in SF also. I have been seriously torn about buying a international no warranty phone. I jumped to the LG V30, purchased from B & H then cancelled the order a couple days ago.
However, I ordered the U11+ last night from Amazon - NGP Store USA. They get decent reviews but have a really strict return policy. I tried the U11 earlier this year but returned it. The U11+ had all the U11 was missing + more. [emoji3]
-- Who did you buy from and did you entertain buying a warranty? If so, from who.
-- Cases seem to be limited. Do you purchase one?
Thanks.
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Thanks. I bought it off of amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077PJXZFK
I did not buy a warranty. I took a chance and its been fine so far. The quality of the device and manufacturing is very very high. I am very pleased with the whole experience. Do not believe anybody who disses this device. It checks pretty much every box I had. Biggest thing is Treble. I expect to run well supported AOSP on this thing.
I am using the bundled transparent case and I am fine with it. Its minimal and it shows off the amazing silver very well.

iad77 said:
Does the phone get hot with brightness on max? Or during heavy downloading of Apps or charging?
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This phone does not get hot under any circumstances (brightness or extended play). I have it in the bundled minimal case, and I played racing games for extended periods of time (connected to my TV using a USB-C to HDMI adapter). It drove the TV's 1080p display without any delay and with great sound! It felt warm after an hour of play but I would qualify that a lukewarm. My HTC 10 definitely gets much warmer than U11+. So, its an upgrade for me.
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How long does a full charge take?
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I never measured this from 0 to 100%. I am not worried about this though. All I can tell you is it charges very fast.
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Are you using a case / cover? Noticed any scratches on the back?
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I am using the bundled minimal case. Its transparent and shows off amazing silver well.
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Does YouTube allow you to stretch to full screen?
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It depends on the video's aspect ratio. For example, Inifinity War Trailer filled the screen but apple sway ad did not. It does not stretch in general and I think that's the right thing to do. I would not like videos with a different native aspect ratio than 2:1 to stretch and show all stretched faces etc.

does it have Always on display (not ambient notifications)

As the title says, am asking if anyone knows for sure if the oneplus6 have an always on display (like pixel 2 or Samsung or most of the new phones).. I know it has the ambition notification display but am asking about the always on.. Thanks.

Yes, the 5T had it, so I don't see any reason, why the OP6 shouldn't have it. I have also seen some "first impressions" videos on YT and it has the AOD.

remczar69 said:
Yes, the 5T had it, so I don't see any reason, why the OP6 shouldn't have it. I have also seen some "first impressions" videos on YT and it has the AOD.
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The 5T has an ambiant display, it's not an AOD. I have ordered the oneplus 6 and it should arrive early next week, I will update you then but I'm pretty sure it will have an ambiant display.

joeb690 said:
The 5T has an ambiant display, it's not an AOD. I have ordered the oneplus 6 and it should arrive early next week, I will update you then but I'm pretty sure it will have an ambiant display.
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Exactly.. I wanted to response to the first post, but i thought i was wrong, Given that i searched around every where on oneplus forums.. Some tend to mix between ambient notifications and always on display..
I will be looking forward for the right answer..

Flossy Carter said it’s ambient like the 5T. I’m pretty sure this is correct through I only owned a 5 (which wasn’t a AOD).

RealEvil said:
Flossy Carter said it’s ambient like the 5T. I’m pretty sure this is correct through I only owned a 5 (which wasn’t a AOD).
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Yes i watched his video.. Its only ambient display, no always on display..
I find this very strange from oneplus, why didn't they activate this feature yet, even LCD screens phones has these always on display..

I prefer ambient over AOD personally
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joeb690 said:
The 5T has an ambiant display, it's not an AOD. I have ordered the oneplus 6 and it should arrive early next week, I will update you then but I'm pretty sure it will have an ambiant display.
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I hope. it has aod. really miss aod from Samsung. my 5t red is great but I'm not happy without aod lol.... is it a software thing? so someone can make it? I've tried a few apps for it actually and they are all so buggy...

AOD is in works and will come to 6/5T/5 in the coming updates.

entwicklun said:
I hope. it has aod. really miss aod from Samsung. my 5t red is great but I'm not happy without aod lol.... is it a software thing? so someone can make it? I've tried a few apps for it actually and they are all so buggy...
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No, AOD is not a software-only thing if efficiency is desired (no matter if using OLED or not). You can do it in software, but it will be as efficient as those Play Store apps, meaning it will ruin your battery. Samsung and LG have specially designed hardware for AOD, with LG also having a separate backlight control for AOD-only (only part of the LCD backlight is on with AOD on - but of course Samsung doesn't have this issue on OLED). But even for OLED, a special display driver chip which supports slow refresh rates and additional memory needs to be used in order for AOD to be efficient, and Samsung has worked hard to optimize theirs (I have an Galaxy A3 2017 and there is little difference with AOD on or off - there is more with my S7 Edge but still pretty efficient).
The Oppo R15 and R15 Pro have AOD (but quite inefficient), and the display hardware is very similar to OP6 from what I know, so there is some hope.
However, I find the notification LED to be much more useful than AOD because you can see it from a distance and if you use an app like Light Flow, you can pulse it or color it differently for different notifications and you will basically "learn" very fast to interpret it - with much less power draw.

I got the phone yesterday and it had and and was working fine. Got a ota and aod is gone. Why. I liked it so much

Funk Wizard said:
AOD is in works and will come to 6/5T/5 in the coming updates.
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Hope being like Sammy or LG implemintation and not Google with Pixel.
I really like having planty of choice with customization like Korean offers with latest flagship and not the very poor and basic function of Google AOD.

A quick answer. With Ambient notifications, the screen light up when a notification arrives?
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A quick answer. With Ambient notifications, the screen light up when a notification arrives?
Thanks and grretings from Spain.
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Yes with ambient display it would light up when a notification comes and with AOD the screen would show the notification preview and then show the app icon as pending notification as the screen is always on.
It creates a much better amoled experience as the whole screen is dark and only the notification and the notification icon along with the clock you select pops up.
There are some speculations of a burn in so that's why the team is working and testing it in detail till its made available in public.

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There are some speculations of a burn in so that's why the team is working and testing it in detail till its made available in public.
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if there is actually a burn in ... doesn't that mean its a hardware defect? implying no aod ever?

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you will basically "learn" very fast to interpret it - with much less power draw.
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Amen to that! Agree 100%
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if there is actually a burn in ... doesn't that mean its a hardware defect? implying no aod ever?
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Yes with ambient display it would light up when a notification comes and with AOD the screen would show the notification preview and then show the app icon as pending notification as the screen is always on.
It creates a much better amoled experience as the whole screen is dark and only the notification and the notification icon along with the clock you select pops up.
There are some speculations of a burn in so that's why the team is working and testing it in detail till its made available in public.
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Actually yes and no. Burn in are hardware defects caused in oled panel by showing constantly same image in same place. But function to move image by 1-2-5pixels per given time is sooo easy to program that I can't see any reason they wouldn't implement it, than maybe from marketing point they will want it to ship with 6T, alongside wireless charging and maybe second camera that actually does something that is what I would guess.

Got my OnePlus 6 today from Amazon.de. On the first Start i had the Always On Display with exactly the same Samsung Galaxy Functions. The first OTA Update removed this Function now, really disappointed! Im a Big fan of Always on Display, i hope it will come back

louisitou said:
Got my OnePlus 6 today from Amazon.de. On the first Start i had the Always On Display with exactly the same Samsung Galaxy Functions. The first OTA Update removed this Function now, really disappointed! Im a Big fan of Always on Display, i hope it will come back
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Then, I will not update firmware for the moment, if this update removes ambient notifications....
Greetings from Spain.

I have updated directly my OnePlus 6 after powered on it, so I can't say if it the latest OTA or not, but for now I can't find an Always-On-Display option in my settings!

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I have updated directly my OnePlus 6 after powered on it, so I can't say if it the latest OTA or not, but for now I can't find an Always-On-Display option in my settings!
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Be careful. Users in HTCManía forum in Spain, reported that if you have enabled Battery Saver Option, Ambient Nofitications don't work.
Greetings from Spain.

Where's AoD ( Always on Display ) ?

I have to say I'm pretty shocked that OnePlus hasn't added AOD always on display to their phones yet it's been a stock Android thing for a couple good years already.
What's the deal?

Zorachus said:
I have to say I'm pretty shocked that OnePlus hasn't added AOD always on display to their phones yet it's been a stock Android thing for a couple good years already.
What's the deal?
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.it's on havoc im using it

One thing I like about this 7 Pro is you can enable the setting to show your lock screen when you slightly lift up your phone. Saves just that bit of extra battery life. I never liked AOD on my Samsung devices. But at least with the new One UI on those phones you can choose to have it turn on only when you tap on the display.

Hopefully we can get a mod for this. The op6t has it.

For now I just use the Screensaver...

Any news about Always on display?
Kinda annoyed with picking up my phone 1000 times / day to check for new notifications.

piotrkruczek said:
Any news about Always on display?
Kinda annoyed with picking up my phone 1000 times / day to check for new notifications.
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OnePlus is working on AOD....
Wait for a Mod or OnePlus to release it!

piotrkruczek said:
Any news about Always on display?
Kinda annoyed with picking up my phone 1000 times / day to check for new notifications.
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Use pixel pulse apk for the time being

For AOD you can use custom ROMs, although I don't know if AOD doesn't turn off pixels except the ones that shows information or else expect huge battery drain.

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OnePlus is working on AOD....
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Will believe it when I see it. Has been requested over and over for some time now, even more so since it was there briefly on the OP6 before being removed. It should not be hard and the OP devs are clearly very capable I think they do not really want to provide this feature for some reason and that we will get some battery related waffle as justification for it not being added.
I sold my OP7 pro and will not buy another OP device until they provide this feature. It is an important feature for me and too many other manufacturers provide it now so there is no need to miss out on it.
YMMV

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Will believe it when I see it. Has been requested over and over for some time now, even more so since it was there briefly on the OP6 before being removed. It should not be hard and the OP devs are clearly very capable I think they do not really want to provide this feature for some reason and that we will get some battery related waffle as justification for it not being added.
I sold my OP7 pro and will not buy another OP device until they provide this feature. It is an important feature for me and too many other manufacturers provide it now so there is no need to miss out on it.
YMMV
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Bye, nobody will miss you!

arsenal74 said:
Will believe it when I see it. Has been requested over and over for some time now, even more so since it was there briefly on the OP6 before being removed. It should not be hard and the OP devs are clearly very capable I think they do not really want to provide this feature for some reason and that we will get some battery related waffle as justification for it not being added.
I sold my OP7 pro and will not buy another OP device until they provide this feature. It is an important feature for me and too many other manufacturers provide it now so there is no need to miss out on it.
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What a weird thing to get upset over.

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OnePlus is working on AOD....
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Been hearing that since the op6.

i.Design said:
What a weird thing to get upset over.
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It might be weird for you but not for the other user...
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He just told the fact, no need to be rude....

Not a weird thing to get upset about at all. Either AOD or a notification light should be "there". Light can be put anywhere, even in a button. Now I have an app running to light up now and then. Notify Buddy consumes way too much battery which isn't an option either. I upgraded from OP5 to OP7pro, but honestly, I still am wondering why I paid all that money. The OP5 was and still is a smooth as butter fine device. GF has it now.

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Not a weird thing to get upset about at all. Either AOD or a notification light should be "there". Light can be put anywhere, even in a button. Now I have an app running to light up now and then. Notify Buddy consumes way too much battery which isn't an option either. I upgraded from OP5 to OP7pro, but honestly, I still am wondering why I paid all that money. The OP5 was and still is a smooth as butter fine device. GF has it now.
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Exactly. I don't understand why they are talking about it drains battery. Yeah it does, but those who want it might not care. It's not exactly hard to implement AOD. Not offering no notification light and no AOD is just stupid. They been stating they are working on it for at least a year? That can't be true .

Maybe I wasn't clear enough. The weird part is them selling their OP7 Pro for not having a feature that they knew wasn't on it when they bought it. Not sure why you'd purchase a phone that didn't have a feature you clearly would sell a phone for not having.

i.Design said:
Maybe I wasn't clear enough. The weird part is them selling their OP7 Pro for not having a feature that they knew wasn't on it when they bought it. Not sure why you'd purchase a phone that didn't have a feature you clearly would sell a phone for not having.
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Not sure that is what you really meant but let's move on. I am prone to impulse buys (don't judge me) which is what the OP7 was and with OP saying they were working on an AOD I kind of hoped it would come (as it finally did from Huawei) but now I honestly do not think it is.
My point is that a functioning AOD that does not kill your battery does not seem to be that difficult, most other manufactures offer it now and LG even managed it on an LCD. I'm guessing and reading between the lines but I think that they have no intention of adding it but cannot imagine why? as I said the OP devs are clearly very capable so I'm sure they could have done it by now if asked.

As far as I know AOD consumes a few percent more per hour, maybe 3%. I don't know if that has gotten better in the last years. Still I don't understand why they don't offer the option to trade AOD for battery life. I guess the impact on battery in their testing must have been so high that it would've been a shame to release it. I guess it's kind of a "do it right or leave it" attempt they are following.
Also it could be together with the absence of the pocket mode. I guess since they don't have a normal proximity sensor that could be what stops them from adding it because if they did, they can't disable it when the phone is in the pocket.

They could still add it regardless of draining some battery. Could always add an option to turn it off like Samsung. I use an app called Always on Amoled. It's pretty similar to an actual aod. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.newgen.alwayson