I'm using Waze app every single day for about 1.5 hour.
in the past when i had galaxy S4, after 2 month of daily use, i noticed on white pages i still see all the static banners and buttons of waze.
baisically, using Waze in daily basis, burn-in my screen in the static area of the app like the up and down banners, speed meter etc...
Can it happen also in my new galaxy s8+? what to you think? did the amoled technology haven't changed a lot in the past 4 or 5 years?
There is a new feature in Waze called battery saver, it dims the screen when you are over a certain speed and a certain distance from the next instruction, that might help with it.
Though to be honest I use it for about the same amount of time everyday and don't even think about any burn in, its definitely not something that I've noticed happening on my phone so far
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its definitely not something that I've noticed happening on my phone so far
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So far.... the phone is pretty new so we can tell right now. hope it will never happen but my S4 experience keeps me worried about this phenomenon.
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There is a new feature in Waze called battery saver, it dims the screen when you are over a certain speed and a certain distance from the next instruction, that might help with it.
Though to be honest I use it for about the same amount of time everyday and don't even think about any burn in, its definitely not something that I've noticed happening on my phone so far
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I looked in Waze setting and could not find this option. Where is this option?
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There is a new feature in Waze called battery saver, it dims the screen when you are over a certain speed and a certain distance from the next instruction, that might help with it.
Though to be honest I use it for about the same amount of time everyday and don't even think about any burn in, its definitely not something that I've noticed happening on my phone so far
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i can't find this option in waze.... which app version installed on your phone? which country?
I had that problem with my s7 edge. I got it changed on warranty. I'm too scared to use waze on my s8+.
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I had that problem with my s7 edge. I got it changed on warranty. I'm too scared to use waze on my s8+.
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How much time did you use your s7 before the burn-in happen?
How much time you used waze each day?
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I looked in Waze setting and could not find this option. Where is this option?
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Today i received an update to waze from play store and the function was added :good:
Definitely can still happen on the s8+. I'd recommend not having your screen excessively bright while static images are on screen if you can help it. It's a pain but this is just an unfortunate trade-off with these beautiful screens.
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Definitely can still happen on the s8+. I'd recommend not having your screen excessively bright while static images are on screen if you can help it. It's a pain but this is just an unfortunate trade-off with these beautiful screens.
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It's not a trade-off. It can happen with virtually ANY type of display. LCD, LED, OLED, etc. No mobile phone display is immune.
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It's not a trade-off. It can happen with virtually ANY type of display. LCD, LED, OLED, etc. No mobile phone display is immune.
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I'm sorry if you dont like it but its the truth. I absolutely love the Samsung phones so I'm not against the phone. I've had the Note, S3, S4, S5, S6E, S7E and now the S8+.
I'm the first person to correct somebody wrongly bashing these phones but in this case it is what it is mate. Its well documented and accepted as fact that screen burn in on Amoled is more prevalent than some other display technologies. You need to be a little bit more mindful with Amoled if you want to keep the screen looking nice with heavy use.
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I'm sorry if you dont like it but its the truth. I absolutely love the Samsung phones so I'm not against the phone. I've had the Note, S3, S4, S5, S6E, S7E and now the S8+.
I'm the first person to correct somebody wrongly bashing these phones but in this case it is what it is mate. Its well documented and accepted as fact that screen burn in on Amoled is more prevalent than some other display technologies. You need to be a little bit more mindful with Amoled if you want to keep the screen looking nice.
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Based on your response, it's apparent that you didn't quite grasp mine. Anyway, cheers!
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Based on your response, it's apparent that you didn't quite grasp mine. Anyway, cheers!
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Based on your first response you obviously didn't grasp mine at all whatsoever. I wasn't comparing Amoled directly to any other screen technology but the fact remains that the prevelance of screen burn in is generally higher than other screen types in general. That's not just conjecture on my part.
Its accepted fact. Also I'd appreciate it if you dropped the childish, rude and flippant attitude towards me. I was simply responding to your straw man argument.
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Based on your first response you obviously didn't grasp mine at all whatsoever. I wasn't comparing Amoled directly to any other screen technology but the fact remains that the prevelance of screen burn in is generally higher than other screen types in general. That's not just conjecture on my part.
Its accepted fact. Also I'd appreciate it if you dropped the childish, rude and flippant attitude towards me. I was simply responding to your straw man argument.
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Yeah, ok then. Enjoy!
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How much time did you use your s7 before the burn-in happen?
How much time you used waze each day?
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There was one week where I used it excessively. And I kept the screen full bright. When I saw the screen burn in with the arrow of waze navigation. I started looking up on the Internet to solve the burn in issue somehow. That's when I found out that it's a common issue on amoled screens apparently. And the only way to solve it was to send it back to Samsung for a repair or replacement.
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There was one week where I used it excessively. And I kept the screen full bright. When I saw the screen burn in with the arrow of waze navigation. I started looking up on the Internet to solve the burn in issue somehow. That's when I found out that it's a common issue on amoled screens apparently. And the only way to solve it was to send it back to Samsung for a repair or replacement.
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Yeah unfortunately its one of those things that you just have to be mindful of, even when you're not on full brightness.
I was pretty lucky with most of my galaxy phones especially considering how heavily I used them, although my S7E was an exception.
I still have the phone and after just 13 months you can clearly see discoloration on the screen and admittedly very feint burn in on UI elements ie. the status bar. The screen discoloration is pretty bad and perfectly matches the YouTube app, where the video is playing up top and the static white comment section below put uneven "wear" on my screen. I'm now trying to make a habit to watch longer YouTube videos in fullscreen to avoid a similar result.
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There was one week where I used it excessively. And I kept the screen full bright. When I saw the screen burn in with the arrow of waze navigation. I started looking up on the Internet to solve the burn in issue somehow. That's when I found out that it's a common issue on amoled screens apparently. And the only way to solve it was to send it back to Samsung for a repair or replacement.
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So they replaced it for you? If it is so common on amoled display, they still replace or repair burned in screens?
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So they replaced it for you? If it is so common on amoled display, they still replace or repair burned in screens?
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Yes they did. I rang samsung and told them about the issue. They got the phone picked up from my house. I was expecting them to probably just replace the screen but to my shock they sent me a brand new sealed s7 edge.
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Amoled is notorious for burn-ins. I would avoid using any app for prolonged periods of time.
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I work for a carrier and never in my 14 years have I seen a LCD screen burn in I have however seen multiple AMOLED panels with burn in especially demo phones (yes on all day rolling content but so are the LCD models) this is a risk with organic displays to his point is true it is a trade off whichever way you sugercoat it
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So, I've had my Nexus 5 since November 6th, and like most phones it gets warm when doing anything intensive. Now, I don't play very many games and really nothing too demanding. Perhaps the primary game I play which seems to warm my device up is the Simpsons Tapped Out game. All things aside, I never felt that my device got "too" warm. Battery temp never went above 100 F (37.7C) that I was able to determine, however there was most certainly a "spot" on the back located just below the camera and dead center of the device. This spot was mirrored onto the LCD area as well. Again, I never thought too much of it, however Friday night (November 16th) I noticed that when the screen was on, but showing a black or similarly dark background there was now a blue-ish circular / oval shape essentially "burned" into the screen. I don't know how else to describe it. This spot coincides directly with the location of the RAM / CPU combination on the internal board.
So, my question, has anyone else experienced distortion of their screen? Presently, while noticeable on dark screens, it's not overly damaging. However, I fear that continued normal use of the device may cause cumulative damage. I plan on contacting Google direct on Wednesday when I have some time due to work, but I'm also worried that due to the RAM / CPU placement, this may be a bigger issue than 1 unlucky phone. Perhaps improper heat shielding?
For the record, I am using the images from http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+5+Teardown/19016 to make my assumptions and conclusions
I appreciate any and all constructive comments!
My one got the same problem, just ordered replacement.
Maybe, the glue behind the glass had dried faster due to the higher temperature in that portion of the screen, causing a different light transmission just there, i think imho.
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omg.. what a disaster of phone. If this is true then ALL of the screens will get like that if the user makes some decent use of the phone to play or so.
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omg.. what a disaster of phone. If this is true then ALL of the screens will get like that if the user makes some decent use of the phone to play or so.
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First I've heard of it is right here and people have had plenty of time to get there phone's hot so I doubt it.
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First I've heard of it is right here and people have had plenty of time to get there phone's hot so I doubt it.
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I highly doubt that there are different revisions of the glue behind the screen, so if one is bad, then all the nexus 5 until this was spotted will have it bad too..
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I highly doubt that there are different revisions of the glue behind the screen, so if one is bad, then all the nexus 5 until this was spotted will have it bad too..
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Let me go ahead and return mine now then before this inevitably happens.
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Let me go ahead and return mine now then before this inevitably happens.
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Don't do that, if this starts happening to everyone, they WILL have to rma everyone's nexus 5 out there without asking.
This is by far the major problem of this phone. A true pain for google.
Been a busy day at work! Got my contact into Google as of now. Here's a pic for anyone curious
It seems definitely that the overheating of the cpu has modified the structure of the lower layer of the lcd panel and the backlight has a different effect in that part of the screen.
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My one got the same problem, just ordered replacement.
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Mine looks exactly like yours! How did the replacement go/do? Are there any problems?
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So, I've had my Nexus 5 since November 6th, and like most phones it gets warm when doing anything intensive. Now, I don't play very many games and really nothing too demanding. Perhaps the primary game I play which seems to warm my device up is the Simpsons Tapped Out game. All things aside, I never felt that my device got "too" warm. Battery temp never went above 100 F (37.7C) that I was able to determine, however there was most certainly a "spot" on the back located just below the camera and dead center of the device. This spot was mirrored onto the LCD area as well. Again, I never thought too much of it, however Friday night (November 16th) I noticed that when the screen was on, but showing a black or similarly dark background there was now a blue-ish circular / oval shape essentially "burned" into the screen. I don't know how else to describe it. This spot coincides directly with the location of the RAM / CPU combination on the internal board.
So, my question, has anyone else experienced distortion of their screen? Presently, while noticeable on dark screens, it's not overly damaging. However, I fear that continued normal use of the device may cause cumulative damage. I plan on contacting Google direct on Wednesday when I have some time due to work, but I'm also worried that due to the RAM / CPU placement, this may be a bigger issue than 1 unlucky phone. Perhaps improper heat shielding?
For the record, I am using the images from http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+5+Teardown/19016 to make my assumptions and conclusions
I appreciate any and all constructive comments!
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Are you 100% stock? i played Dead trigger 2 and TR2 yesterday for like 3 hours non stop the back of the phone was pretty warm but not blazing hot i check my screen using the app called LCD tester and i see no spots like on your device
if your 100% stock google added thermal limiting to the CPU witch could have prevented this.
I don't think it's the glue. It's probably just a bad CPU. Not all nexus 5 are created equal. Mine barely gets warm from playing 3d intensive games while on the charger so I'd just RMA yours.
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I don't think it's the glue. It's probably just a bad CPU. Not all nexus 5 are created equal. Mine barely gets warm from playing 3d intensive games while on the charger so I'd just RMA yours.
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Like my device. Gets warm but not hot. If your 100% stock Google added thermal limiting I think it was due to this and not burning out the CPU
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Hello i just wanted to say that i also have this problem though i do not have the blue spot where the cpu and the ram are located but just above the icon bar. How is this possible? Does the battery also get that hot?
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Been a busy day at work! Got my contact into Google as of now. Here's a pic for anyone curious
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Mine has this too but slightly lower and to the left.. Did you ever get an answer/ replacement from Google??
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To find out if it is screen burn, try standard screen burn reversal techniques. If it doesn't reverse at all, it's not burn
Bump, does anybody have an idea what this is? I'm considering an exchange b/c of this blue spot.. The spot seems to not be getting any bigger but it's still bugging me
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I know this is a dinosaur post that Im digging up but I have a similar issue and couldnt find much info on it.
Basically my Nexus 5 took a really bad fall from someone elses hand and the screen was fine except for a bit of light bleed and colour distortion which went away in the next morning
Now if I use a 2A charger or if I play on it for too long, screen gets a pinkish hue and a spot like this appears and the phone goes a bit hot but it goes back to normal later
doesnt always appear under normal use or if I use a 1A charger
Is this an LCD problem, overheating issue of cpu, motherboard issue or display ribbon?
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same thing happened to my Nexus 5 top right corner.. i Sold it and bought a new one. :good:
After trying and failing with the S8/S8+ I decided to go for the U11.
I ordered two phones from Amazon, one for myself and one for family. They were the amazing silver. We powered them on, and then noticed backlight bleed along the lower edge. The guy on this review is the only reviewer who mentions it and shows the problem:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...pretty-good-phone-if-anyones-still-listening/
Not only that, but both phones had a dead pixel on the screen (But I think that's just my bad luck . I took it on myself to watch reviews on youtube, and I think the lower edge problem has been there on every review unit, but no reviewer mentioned it.
I really am considering a switch to the U11, but I have a serious screen OCD so I wanted to put it to you guys... Do you all experience this? And is it terribly bad on every day performance?
Thanks
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After trying and failing with the S8/S8+ I decided to go for the U11.
I ordered two phones from Amazon, one for myself and one for family. They were the amazing silver. We powered them on, and then noticed backlight bleed along the lower edge. The guy on this review is the only reviewer who mentions it and shows the problem:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...pretty-good-phone-if-anyones-still-listening/
Not only that, but both phones had a dead pixel on the screen (But I think that's just my bad luck . I took it on myself to watch reviews on youtube, and I think the lower edge problem has been there on every review unit, but no reviewer mentioned it.
I really am considering a switch to the U11, but I have a serious screen OCD so I wanted to put it to you guys... Do you all experience this? And is it terribly bad on every day performance?
Thanks
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I don't have it at all that I can see. Sorry for your luck but my device is flawless.
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I don't have it at all that I can see. Sorry for your luck but my device is flawless.
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Thanks for the quick response. Check this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/u11/help/minor-issues-stuck-pixel-sound-static-t3621512
A guy posted a picture as a response. See the shadow along the bottom edge? If you don't have that, at all, this gives me hope. What color is your device if you don't mind me asking.
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Thanks for the quick response. Check this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/u11/help/minor-issues-stuck-pixel-sound-static-t3621512
A guy posted a picture as a response. See the shadow along the bottom edge? If you don't have that, at all, this gives me hope. What color is your device if you don't mind me asking.
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No shadow, no dead pixels (just went through a full pixel test - jeez this backlight will blind you on full!), no scuffed glass, nothing. It's the first device I've ever gotten from HTC with no complaints about the screen (my M7 had a yellow tint as did the M8 and the first few weeks of owning my 10, the glue hadn't settled so it was pink tinted and I had to have the Sprint store open up 8 EVOs before I found an acceptable screen to give you an idea - never had a dead pixel except on AMOLED ironically enough).
It's the Sapphire Blue.
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No shadow, no dead pixels (just went through a full pixel test - jeez this backlight will blind you on full!), no scuffed glass, nothing. It's the first device I've ever gotten from HTC with no complaints about the screen (my M7 had a yellow tint as did the M8 and the first few weeks of owning my 10, the glue hadn't settled so it was pink tinted and I had to have the Sprint store open up 8 EVOs before I found an acceptable screen to give you an idea - never had a dead pixel except on AMOLED ironically enough).
It's the Sapphire Blue.
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Thanks mate I do love the phone, and am considering another go. My guess is you are -very- lucky, most of the units I've seen myself on youtube (if not all), have it to a certain extend. Treasure and keep it !
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Thanks mate I do love the phone, and am considering another go. My guess is you are -very- lucky, most of the units I've seen myself on youtube (if not all), have it to a certain extend. Treasure and keep it !
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Yeah out of all phones I've ever ordered, this one is by far my favorite. Ridiculous battery life, no lag, great screen, no gimmicks (edge sense is actually quite useful - I use it to launch my camera immediately when I'm out and about), excellent camera, doesn't overheat, crystal clear call quality, loud speaker set up... Only thing I don't like is News Republic chewing up my battery and not being able to disable it.
I haven't even rooted it yet. Every other phone I've rooted within a week, oftentimes the day I've received it. I ordered it May 16th from HTC on pre-order and got it on June 9th. No phone has ever been in my possession that long without being modded somehow, even if it was just changing the launcher.
The light bleed problem affected every review unit as you said, and there have been several threads here mentioning it. My conclusion is that nearly every U11 has the problem although it's rather subtle so not easy not to notice if you don't know about it.
Personally I'm rather OCD about screens and I'm not happy about this defect but I'm now used to it. The location is just one that you don't look at normally. In fact I think we've grown used to ignore the lowest part of the screen as it's where ads normally sit. Also it kinda helps that the bleed gets reduced a lot depending on the angle you look at the screen from.
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The light bleed problem affected every review unit as you said, and there have been several threads here mentioning it. My conclusion is that nearly every U11 has the problem although it's rather subtle so not easy not to notice if you don't know about it.
Personally I'm rather OCD about screens and I'm not happy about this defect but I'm now used to it. The location is just one that you don't look at normally. In fact I think we've grown used to ignore the lowest part of the screen as it's where ads normally sit. Also it kinda helps that the bleed gets reduced a lot depending on the angle you look at the screen from.
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Thanks. I am considering getting a device regardless. I will ponder it over the weekend - and if you are OCD and can live with it, so must I. If you can help with advice on how to deal with such impulses (over screens), do drop me a message. I am desperately trying to drop that habit off.
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Thanks. I am considering getting a device regardless. I will ponder it over the weekend - and if you are OCD and can live with it, so must I. If you can help with advice on how to deal with such impulses (over screens), do drop me a message. I am desperately trying to drop that habit off.
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I'm very OCD regarding LCD screen and the phone itself. The phone is perfect except for the light bleeding, a stuck pixel and some sound static in earphone. Otherwise the phone is perfect like the camera, sound, battery life and performance.
As I bought the phone from Hong Kong its a pain in the... To return it. So with a 10% discount off that seller gave me I learned to enjoy and love the phone.
My HTC One X, M8x, 10 U11 and the S8+ all suffered from flaws being the S8+ the worst (random restarting and pinkish screen tone) so I'm not a lucky person about phones.
@evak2979 i sent you a message but basically it's about accepting defeat when it comes to small flaws, unfortunately there's not more to it. Although of course, if your phone has serious build issues that no one else has it should go back to HTC.
I have is as well. Actually this is my second unit (Black), the previous (Silver) had it as well. I can see it in display test application but I would say it is not affecting normal usage. Overall I am happy with display quality.
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I have is as well. Actually this is my second unit (Black), the previous (Silver) had it as well. I can see it in display test application but I would say it is not affecting normal usage. Overall I am happy with display quality.
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Like I told my new pal on PM, I got the S8+ new for a very good price (539, UK).
If that sinks, I'll bite the bullet and return to HTC. It's funny because I don't mind scuffs, or scratches, or what. I just want a normal okay screen. I remember being happy with Note 4, with S5, With M8, With M9.
Then this new fashion started with every display being the dumbs
And the S8+ arrived with dust under the glass.
I've fought for a long time with my OCD to accept that AMOLEDs will never have consistent whites (though my one plus 3t is perfect, the one phone I've kept over the months). As of late with the S8 it's also been, full red edges, dead pixels, dust specs.
Let's try the U11 again. If it just has light bleed and no dead pixels I'll keep it...
I don't have light bleed.
I use edge to launch my calendar.
Sound through the earphones is shockingly good!
It looks dated in any other color but blue or red.
Those bezels? Ug.
The screen is beautiful and they've coated with oleophilics that feel INCREDIBLE.
The camera is excellent.
It's a very VERY good phone.
I have it on mine, but It's hardly even noticeable... Definitely not a game-changer for me. It's not enough for me to return it for a new one.
Just updating that I received my HTC U11 black, and I sent it back with a dead pixel. That's the third U11 with dead pixels, the first two having been silvers from Amazon.
I have also encountered issues with S8s (dust under glass), but not so much or frequent.
I want to get a U11 more than I do an S8, but I am really really skeptical about a few things - the build quality of the panel. The reports that some of the units are not so water proof (The solar reds apparently, a youtube search I did testified to that.
Sorry for diverting this thread from its original post, but I am really curious about you guys' opinion. I agree to having screen OCD, and that I should lower my standards when it comes to white consistency on AMOLED, for example. Or even some light bleed on LCD panels.
But dead pixels? Dead pixels on 649 pound devices, top end flagship? What is going on with QC and how lost must we drop our standards.
And if anyone thinks I am lying I am happy to provide with pictures...
If anyone from the UK has a relatively faultless HTC, please tell me where you bought it from so I can buy from there myself. And which color variant.
Thank you.
Hi, I believe you as I have the same problem with my Asian version. But can you share a picture? I want to compare mine with yours.
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Thanks. I am considering getting a device regardless. I will ponder it over the weekend - and if you are OCD and can live with it, so must I. If you can help with advice on how to deal with such impulses (over screens), do drop me a message. I am desperately trying to drop that habit off.
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Just updating that I received my HTC U11 black, and I sent it back with a dead pixel. That's the third U11 with dead pixels, the first two having been silvers from Amazon.
I have also encountered issues with S8s (dust under glass), but not so much or frequent.
I want to get a U11 more than I do an S8, but I am really really skeptical about a few things - the build quality of the panel. The reports that some of the units are not so water proof (The solar reds apparently, a youtube search I did testified to that.
Sorry for diverting this thread from its original post, but I am really curious about you guys' opinion. I agree to having screen OCD, and that I should lower my standards when it comes to white consistency on AMOLED, for example. Or even some light bleed on LCD panels.
But dead pixels? Dead pixels on 649 pound devices, top end flagship? What is going on with QC and how lost must we drop our standards.
And if anyone thinks I am lying I am happy to provide with pictures...
If anyone from the UK has a relatively faultless HTC, please tell me where you bought it from so I can buy from there myself. And which color variant.
Thank you.
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Hi, I believe you as I have the same problem with my Asian version. But can you share a picture? I want to compare mine with yours.
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Of course...Here. Same on all three, just in different positions.
Mine is in a similar position but it's not black. Indeed it changes according to the color but of course it's different from the rest. Mine is more a defective pixel than a dead or stuck one. I thought it was the same pixel issue but it's not.
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Of course...Here. Same on all three, just in different positions.
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Mine is in a similar position but it's not black. Indeed it changes according to the color but of course it's different from the rest. Mine is more a defective pixel than a dead or stuck one. I thought it was the same pixel issue but it's not.
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Nah mine is dead dead.
I am considering a 4th U11. At this point, I don't even care about the light bleed. But 3/3 with dead pixels, it can't just be bad luck. That's the thing. I mean this is very bad QC. None of the reviewers are mentioning things like this. Or the issues with the S8 screen.
I think at this point someone needs to step up and say : ok guys, these are the GOOD things about the phone. But there is also
S8 (red tints, even after patch. Bad smudges on grey. Dust particles under panel)
U11 (Dead pixels. Light bleed at bottom of the screen).
In the end, the only trustworthy review is XDA forums and its users.
Wow! So i watch a lot of youtube and i never really watch videos in landscape mode....well i went to google something and the pages background was all white i noticed a line across the screen its barely there the top of my screen is white the rest of the phone is a slight off white is this a burn in? The reason why i mentioned youtube is because when i measured this line i kept my finger nail there to match the youtube video in portrait and sure enough that line matched where i kept my finger nail on that line wtf man lol is this now a permanent issue i never go full brightness but i admit im on youtube videos heavy...smh i thought id never have a problem with this s8 plus I've had it since launch
You can't use a screenshot to show us your display...
Instead take a picture of the display and post it.
Oops lol
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Wow! So i watch a lot of youtube and i never really watch videos in landscape mode....well i went to google something and the pages background was all white i noticed a line across the screen its barely there the top of my screen is white the rest of the phone is a slight off white is this a burn in? The reason why i mentioned youtube is because when i measured this line i kept my finger nail there to match the youtube video in portrait and sure enough that line matched where i kept my finger nail on that line wtf man lol is this now a permanent issue i never go full brightness but i admit im on youtube videos heavy...smh i thought id never have a problem with this s8 plus I've had it since launch
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That's always the main issue when using Amoled displays. It's just part of the technology unfortunately. They look great, but they are basically an organic technology that degrades over time. They can degrade unevenly depending on what you're viewing/doing as you have witnessed. Navigation bars and status bars are usually the first to be noticed. I usually disable mine and use gesture controls for this reason.
P.S - Get ready for all of the Samsung/Amoled fanatics that are going to tell you that it is impossible and that you're using your phone wrong. [emoji6]
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That's always the main issue when using Amoled displays. It's just part of the technology unfortunately. They look great, but they are basically an organic technology that degrades over time. They can degrade unevenly depending on what you're viewing/doing as you have witnessed. Navigation bars and status bars are usually the first to be noticed. I usually disable mine and use gesture controls for this reason.
P.S - Get ready for all of the Samsung/Amoled fanatics that are going to tell you that it is impossible and that you're using your phone wrong. [emoji6]
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Well usage is part of it, different people use theirs differently is all.
jal3223 said:
That's always the main issue when using Amoled displays. It's just part of the technology unfortunately. They look great, but they are basically an organic technology that degrades over time. They can degrade unevenly depending on what you're viewing/doing as you have witnessed. Navigation bars and status bars are usually the first to be noticed. I usually disable mine and use gesture controls for this reason.
P.S - Get ready for all of the Samsung/Amoled fanatics that are going to tell you that it is impossible and that you're using your phone wrong. [emoji6]
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Well im sorry i don't have another phone to take a pic of this guys i noticed the off white line is disappearing slightly after watching videos in landscape mode for a couple hours, but i know it is there but barely not like before
Oled displays generally heal over time by themselves from burn-in if it's not too much marked, clearly if the fixed image pattern that caused it will no longer be displayed on the screen.
Many apps are available on Google Play that could help shortening this healing time, for example:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=appinventor.ai_avaworks00.LCDBurnInWiper
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blasterbyte.burn_infix
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tinyroar.amoledburninfix
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.codefortravel.amoled_screen_burn_in
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.feetstech.screenburn
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gilonm.burnfix
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kvanzuijlen.screenburn_infixer
themissionimpossible said:
Oled displays generally heal over time by themselves from burn-in if it's not too much marked, clearly if the fixed image pattern that caused it will no longer be displayed on the screen.
Many apps are available on Google Play that could help shortening this healing time, for example:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=appinventor.ai_avaworks00.LCDBurnInWiper
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blasterbyte.burn_infix
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tinyroar.amoledburninfix
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.codefortravel.amoled_screen_burn_in
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.feetstech.screenburn
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gilonm.burnfix
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kvanzuijlen.screenburn_infixer
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LCD burn in, or image retention does go away. Amoled however, does not. The only way to make it "go away" is to degrade the other pixels the same amount as the others. If the navigation bar for example is where the burn in is, the only way to fix it would be to let the screen stay on on the opposite pixels so that they will degrade to the same level as the others. Amoled technology is an organic technology, which means that each pixel is slowly dying each time the screen is on. If some pixels are used more than others they will die faster. It's just the science of the display.
Screen burn in
mlock420 said:
Wow! So i watch a lot of youtube and i never really watch videos in landscape mode....well i went to google something and the pages background was all white i noticed a line across the screen its barely there the top of my screen is white the rest of the phone is a slight off white is this a burn in? The reason why i mentioned youtube is because when i measured this line i kept my finger nail there to match the youtube video in portrait and sure enough that line matched where i kept my finger nail on that line wtf man lol is this now a permanent issue i never go full brightness but i admit im on youtube videos heavy...smh i thought id never have a problem with this s8 plus I've had it since launch
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I'm always on YouTube to an my screen looks just like what you tryed to show it matches YouTube an it's pissing me off does your phone still look like that or Did u find a way to fix it?
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you're using your phone wrong. [emoji6]
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Lol, reminds me of antennagate and when Steve Jobs said "You're holding it wrong"
Yeah... leaving static images on amoled on for extended periods of time is never a good idea.
Google should know better than this too. They should force the UI to fade to black when a video is playing in portrait.
My S8+ got burn in after about 2 months. It was also having other issues. But anyway Samsung replaced my display under warranty. Been a few months since and this one isn't having that issue.
just like mine
I got the same freaking thing same burn in as yours the line is where i watch the videos im surprised it also happened to you. The top line is more whiter.
Always on Display = Screen burn in
So just to be on the safe side, it would be better to disable the AOD (always on display)?
Anything black on your screen, helps decrease burn in.
Personally, I never use AOD. Maybe I am being over cautious?
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Top is whiter bottom is darkish yellower
Same thing is happening to me and same circumstances with s8+. Occasionally youtube glitches and goes fullscreen in protrait making the whole screen black and keeping the video portrait which is cool but that rarely happens to me.
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Anything black on your screen, helps decrease burn in.
Personally, I never use AOD. Maybe I am being over cautious?
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The aod moves around. Sammy has made this feature nearly percect mine is used every day for about 5 hours a Night and no burnin anywhere....
LMBO
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You can't use a screenshot to show us your display...
Instead take a picture of the display and post it.
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LOL, this is a hounast mistake but we all do blond moments but this is by far the funniest post I seen yet
[email protected] said:
LOL, this is a hounast mistake but we all do blond moments but this is by far the funniest post I seen yet
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If you're actually referring to my post about how to show an amoled screen burn-in on this forum, before posting you should exactly understand what is being discussed...do you know what a burn-in is???
If not, then forget my comment, but in the future please explain yourself more clearly so we can understand whom and what you're referring to...
I see that you're a first time poster here on xda-developers... maybe this can help you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
Now this really isn't an issue at all but it was pointed out by my friend. There may be other ways of noticing the same but here's how I do it.
Sit in a dark room, as dark as possible (best at night).
Increase the brightness to maximum.
Open any video on MX Player, pause it and zoom out (decrease video size) as much as possible.
Observe the corners around the chin of the device. You should see some light leaking through.
Now of course this isn't an issue you'd encounter normally but it just kinda freaked us out. Any idea what might be causing it? I have no technological knowledge about displays except for the fact that pixels are turned off for black areas in AMOLED displays. We don't have navigation keys backlight either.
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Now this really isn't an issue at all but it was pointed out by my friend. There may be other ways of noticing the same but here's how I do it.
Sit in a dark room, as dark as possible (best at night).
Increase the brightness to maximum.
Open any video on MX Player, pause it and zoom out (decrease video size) as much as possible.
Observe the corners around the chin of the device. You should see some light leaking through.
Now of course this isn't an issue you'd encounter normally but it just kinda freaked us out. Any idea what might be causing it? I have no technological knowledge about displays except for the fact that pixels are turned off for black areas in AMOLED displays. We don't have navigation keys backlight either.
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There should be no light leak/bleed on an AMOLED screen phone, that is common for IPS screens.
Did you get the phone from the official site?
The Marionette said:
There should be no light leak/bleed on an AMOLED screen phone, that is common for IPS screens.
Did you get the phone from the official site?
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Yep Amazon. Funny my friend has the same issue. In fact he was the one who pointed it out first.
sahu.prashant said:
Yep Amazon. Funny my friend has the same issue. In fact he was the one who pointed it out first.
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Doubt it's possible to have "rogue" pixels but I will have to see for myself when mine arrives. But my friend who has it never complained about it, so I have a feeling only a certain batch of them might have this issue.
There also might be a chance it's related to software, so did you try using another rom?
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Doubt it's possible to have "rogue" pixels but I will have to see for myself when mine arrives. But my friend who has it never complained about it, so I have a feeling only a certain batch of them might have this issue.
There also might be a chance it's related to software, so did you try using another rom?
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It certainly is weird. I mean that light bleed doesn't exactly appear to be "rogue" pixels either. Plus it's rather too dim to be noticed unless you're sitting in an absolutely dark room with your brightness maxed out and about 75% of the screen totally black (which would rarely ever happen). I believe it could be possible that every unit has this but never really has been noticed by anyone.
The issue isn't that great for me to switch to another ROM and test it. Just wanted to bring this to everyone's notice. I'm on OOS 5.1.11 (rooted)
Yes, I ordered 2 and they were both defect so I sent them back. I did not send them back because of this tho, however i also recognized that both of them had really bad uniformity issues and it looked like the edges were bleeding. I observed that on a white background. I am living in germany and ordered from amazon, the second one got dust in it's front camera lense, when it arrived and the first one was emitting a loud static noise, like coil whine. It's insane, I just want a proper working phone. Not sure, whether I should order a 3rd one.
Kalleculated said:
Yes, I ordered 2 and they were both defect so I sent them back. I did not send them back because of this tho, however i also recognized that both of them had really bad uniformity issues and it looked like the edges were bleeding. I observed that on a white background. I am living in germany and ordered from amazon, the second one got dust in it's front camera lense, when it arrived and the first one was emitting a loud static noise, like coil whine. It's insane, I just want a proper working phone. Not sure, whether I should order a 3rd one.
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Wow that's a really big let down on Amazon's part to send defective units, and that too twice! However, I checked my screen for any such uniformity issues both on black and white but didn't find any such except for this one. And I repeat again, this is barely noticeable and is visible only when you're in absolute dark, with maximum brightness on black screen.
Although such a thing is ignorable but it's something which isn't really expected from OnePlus.
sahu.prashant said:
Wow that's a really big let down on Amazon's part to send defective units, and that too twice! However, I checked my screen for any such uniformity issues both on black and white but didn't find any such except for this one. And I repeat again, this is barely noticeable and is visible only when you're in absolute dark, with maximum brightness on black screen.
Although such a thing is ignorable but it's something which isn't really expected from OnePlus.
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Yea, yours is definately fine. I'd be happy, if I got one like that.
I ordered from Amazon, because I heard the OnePlus support is really unprofessional sometimes and certain things take ages.
Did you guys order it from the official store?
Edit: That being said I wouldn't worry that much about it, if I were you.
Kalleculated said:
Yea, yours is definately fine. I'd be happy, if I got one like that.
I ordered from Amazon, because I heard the OnePlus support is really unprofessional sometimes and certain things take ages.
Did you guys order it from the official store?
Edit: That being said I wouldn't worry that much about it, if I were you.
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Not worrying over it at all! After all, who keeps the brightness at maximum in a dark room.
We ordered it from Amazon India.
sahu.prashant said:
Not worrying over it at all! After all, who keeps the brightness at maximum in a dark room.
We ordered it from Amazon India.
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I ordered mine from Aliexpress and the comments were all positive. I hope mine won't be defective, I spat my soul out financially for it. :silly:
The Marionette said:
I ordered mine from Aliexpress and the comments were all positive. I hope mine won't be defective, I spat my soul out financially for it. :silly:
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Hehehehe.... I'm sure it'll be just fine! And congrats on getting your new phone (even if you're about to get it). Nevertheless it's a very decent device :good:
Have a Note 9 which I'm keeping, just got the Ultra and the display is a disappointment.
Side by side with the 9, colors are not as vibrant, contrast is so-so, sharpness is off. Fine details, icon edges, etc. are fuzzy.
Now, I'm anal about this kinda stuff. If I never saw the 9's screen, I'd never know and think it's fine, and to most, it would be. But this is me you're talkin' to. ?
I don't know whether to return it or pray for a Samsung fix. I'm not a gambling man. I've gone through every display setting and resolution there is, including dev options. I'm pretty experienced.
Maybe it's Nova launcher, but it's just not as nice as the 9's screen. Exact same home screen, icon theme, everything identical.
Your thoughts/opinions/gut feelings? Got till next week to return to Best Buy.
Thanks a lot,
Rich
You're 100% right, my N20U has a yellowish dirty white look to it when compared to my N10+
I doubt Samsung sees this as a defect until all of us report it as a defect so they can fix it with a software update.
Using vivid mode with green slider turned to lower setting helps but that's about it...
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VICosPhi said:
You're 100% right, my N20U has a yellowish dirty white look to it when compared to my N10+
I doubt Samsung sees this as a defect until all of us report it as a defect so they can fix it with a software update.
Using vivid mode with green slider turned to lower setting helps but that's about it...
Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk
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I posted in another thread that I got an app - Screen Balance - from the play store. With that I was able to get rid of more green as it has several adjustments for white balance. Use various adjustments judiciously. I like things cool. Seems *all* amoleds look green to me anyway.
Lest anyone thinks I'm spamming the app, since I mentioned it in another thread, I am not. Just a much happier user. ?
Doesn't solve the aforementioned problems though.
My gripe is temporary image retention. Using dark mode and gray screens, sometimes, the outline of the keyboard will remain on the screen for 5-10 seconds. I notice that if one uses the phone in light mode, it seems perfect, but once in dark mode, it has some minor flaws.
It's funny to see so many of these posts popping up. I made a post about this before as well that the screen has an overall yellowish greenish overtone to it. In fact, mine got worse. Now I have screen burn in. It's crazy since I don't have my phone at high brightness. It's somewhere in the middle. This is the first time I have to have a screen replaced. I miss my note 9 so much. If the note 9 had an ultra wide camera, I would so have kept it. This is likely the most problematic note I've owned. I had 3 note ultra in the past and they are all the same in terms of display. There's no escaping it. If you call the Samsung costumer service, they aren't allowed to admit issues with the device that Samsung hasn't cleared for them to admit, so they'll deny any screen issues at this time. I was going to trade this in for the Oneplus 8 pro, but they aren't taking Note 20 ultras as a trade in device, so may still sell or try to hold on till S21 ultra and pray by then Samsung corrects this new line of Amoled screens.
This is the screen burn in that I have unfortunately. Going to get the screen replaced, hopefully this weekend.
Mrplennium said:
This is the screen burn in that I have unfortunately. Going to get the screen replaced, hopefully this weekend.
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Burn-in does not show in screenshots, It will only be visible on your device as it is the physical screen with the damage
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Burn-in does not show in screenshots, It will only be visible on your device as it is the physical screen with the damage
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Then it's a mystery what that anomaly is. I am not the only one as a member in another forum posted similar. Image retention maybe? I don't know. But whatever it is, it's not going away and the Samsung phone techs agree I need to change the screen. Hopefully the new one doesn't do this.
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It's funny to see so many of these posts popping up. I made a post about this before as well that the screen has an overall yellowish greenish overtone to it. In fact, mine got worse. Now I have screen burn in. It's crazy since I don't have my phone at high brightness. It's somewhere in the middle. This is the first time I have to have a screen replaced. I miss my note 9 so much. If the note 9 had an ultra wide camera, I would so have kept it. This is likely the most problematic note I've owned. I had 3 note ultra in the past and they are all the same in terms of display. There's no escaping it. If you call the Samsung costumer service, they aren't allowed to admit issues with the device that Samsung hasn't cleared for them to admit, so they'll deny any screen issues at this time. I was going to trade this in for the Oneplus 8 pro, but they aren't taking Note 20 ultras as a trade in device, so may still sell or try to hold on till S21 ultra and pray by then Samsung corrects this new line of Amoled screens.
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Oh geezzzz...that:s not encouraging.. looks like I'm holding on hoping for a soft/firmware update. A replacement would probly have the same or worse issue. No burn in here so far.
Definitely keeping my note 9!
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Then it's a mystery what that anomaly is. I am not the only one as a member in another forum posted similar. Image retention maybe? I don't know. But whatever it is, it's not going away and the Samsung phone techs agree I need to change the screen. Hopefully the new one doesn't do this.
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Your screenshot looks clear to me on my PC, so if you are seeing burn-in then it will be on your screen and will need a replacement, what I was saying is you cannot send someone a SS to show them the burn-in, they would need to look at your screen with their eyes
Mrplennium said:
This is the screen burn in that I have unfortunately. Going to get the screen replaced, hopefully this weekend.
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Bro did you just try to screen shot your screen burn ? :laugh: You need to click with another camera
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warriorvibhu said:
Bro did you just try to screen shot your screen burn ? :laugh: You need to click with another camera
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Hahaha lol I just realized the error of my ways :laugh:
I've never had such screen anomalies before. Still can't understand how it got there since I don't keep my phone at max brightness. Guess I got unlucky this time around.
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Hahaha lol I just realized the error of my ways :laugh:
I've never had such screen anomalies before. Still can't understand how it got there since I don't keep my phone at max brightness. Guess I got unlucky this time around.
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Same image on the screen for extended periods can cause it too, so if you're always in WhatsApp chat or Facebook app and the same thing is always on the screen you'll be more likely to see it then too
Mrplennium said:
Hahaha lol I just realized the error of my ways :laugh:
I've never had such screen anomalies before. Still can't understand how it got there since I don't keep my phone at max brightness. Guess I got unlucky this time around.
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Yeah i used to worry a lot about this as i know there are batches of screens that have this problem. Initially i thought the green yellow tint problem was also in some batches esp when Display mate gave this screen such high rating, which means they are all who have sold their souls for money and not honest, so thought mine was a bad batch but it seems everyone has this tint issue. Its sad that you have burn in but its more common than you think. Many people got it with the Samsung View case too.
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Yeah i used to worry a lot about this as i know there are batches of screens that have this problem. Initially i thought the green yellow tint problem was also in some batches esp when Display mate gave this screen such high rating, which means they are all who have sold their souls for money and not honest, so thought mine was a bad batch but it seems everyone has this tint issue. Its sad that you have burn in but its more common than you think. Many people got it with the Samsung View case too.
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Yeah, pretty unfortunate. I did see the issues with the Samsung cases causing the burn in as well. What's funny is that if you speak to a supervisor at the Samsung customer service number and tell them about the screen issues and you have someone else with a Samsung phone call them back hours or a day later and get the same supervisor, they'll tell you that they never had one complaint about the screen. Unless Samsung instructs them it's an issue they can fix, they will not admit it. Still hoping Samsung can correct the yellowish greenish overtone of the general display.
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Cracked screen show up well using a screen shot
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Cracked screen show up well using a screen shot
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Scratches show even better ? :silly: