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I've seen some of you have said there is some 'bleeding of light' what does that mean actually? Are there holes in the casing or is it something with the screen? And how bad is it?
Edited to add: Despite the troll, a few people here have reported this problem first hand - however it appears to be small, so hopefully they got a rotten apple.
Having replaced my own LCD backlight, I can speak to it.
Basically the LED lamp sits on the very bottom of the tablet illuminating the tablet from the back (hence backlit), the light is supposed to be contained but sometimes the lamp housing may contain gaps and light will leak through those gaps. They appear as light flares across the above layers.
If you google Ipad 2 light leaks and view Images, you can see a great deal of reports with sample images of the symptom.
I'm not quite sure why companies don't just employ a rubber gasket or flap around the lamp housing to get a good light seal.
Kermode said:
I've seen some of you have said there is some 'bleeding of light' what does that mean actually? Are there holes in the casing or is it something with the screen? And how bad is it?
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I havent read any reports anywhere of anyone posting LCD issues with the transformer
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I havent read any reports anywhere of anyone posting LCD issues with the transformer
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There was a comment on one of the android forums.
I noticed it when I first switched on my device, but it was late at night in a very dark room, and brightness was on full. I have brightness set to auto now, and I have never noticed this again.
I am very intolerant of defects such as this, so if I am not seeing it, it's fair to say there isn't a problem. Of course that's just my opinion, but I really don't think it is an issue.
Hold on a moment .......OK, I've just gone and stood in a dark room, and brought up the Gallery App, because it has a dark border. No backlight bleed obvious until I turned the brightness up to maximum, at which point there was a vague semi-circle of backlight just to the right of the keyboard dock. Turning the brightness down to a sensible level solved the problem.
Hope this reassures you. I should perhaps point out that I have no affiliation with Asus, or Google, and no vested interested in device sales.
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I havent read any reports anywhere of anyone posting LCD issues with the transformer
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It's pretty rare I think. I've only read it on a couple of occasions and as far as I know it's the only physical issue with the tablet. Everyone keeps raving about it's build quality. So, if there is any light leak in mine (when I eventually get it) I'm swapping it. Just another reason to try it in the store
djklmnop said:
Basically the LED lamp sits on the very bottom of the tablet illuminating the tablet from the back (hence backlit), the light is supposed to be contained but sometimes the lamp housing may contain gaps and light will leak through those gaps. They appear as light flares across the above layers.
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I'm afraid I don't understand that - what LED lamp (singular)? I thought whole panel was made up of tons of small "lamps" lighting up?
djklmnop said:
If you google Ipad 2 light leaks and view Images, you can see a great deal of reports with sample images of the symptom.
I'm not quite sure why companies don't just employ a rubber gasket or flap around the lamp housing to get a good light seal.
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Ah that is the problem. Yeah i have that on my computer monitor :-/
Hope there isn't a lot of that on the transformer
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I havent read any reports anywhere of anyone posting LCD issues with the transformer
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The very first thread here, where people were asking for this forum to be made, there were a few people who said theirs had bleed (and a few others said the sound was uneven in playback, one side very loud the other low)
I haven't seen much, so perhaps its only a few unlucky people.
Kermode said:
The very first thread here, where people were asking for this forum to be made, there were a few people who said theirs had bleed (and a few others said the sound was uneven in playback, one side very loud the other low)
I haven't seen much, so perhaps its only a few unlucky people.
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It was two people as they quoted 'has anyone' and 'i heard that there was' in other words the first person might have had it, but hasn't said anything since, the other person has heard a 'rumour'
I'm seeing a connection here between 'tablets' and 'tabloid' newspapers.
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It was two people as they quoted 'has anyone' and 'i heard that there was'
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No, spare me your rolleyes crap. It was people saying: My device has this problem. And some saying I'm returning it.
I've been reading a ton of sites about this device, and may have gotten confused about which site i read it on, but clearly there is no mistake when people say they have the problem, so don't accuse people of lying.
It certainly is mentioned here http://android.modaco.com/content/asus-eee-pad-transformer-transformer-modaco-com/336683/eee-pad-transformers-owners-thread-14-04-2011-first-post-updated/
"I had started to noticed light on my screen that shouldn't be there. This obviously is a backlight bleeding problem. ... the manager then took a look in the dark and he noticed it and said it was a fault with the screen and I can get a replacement."
http://www.avforums.com/forums/14430336-post46.html
"Screen. Some light bleed unfortunately (this is also being reported by other users on XDA forums/Modaco etc) - not a deal breaker, but it is there.. admittedly only noticable when using at night... Still great images though. "
(So he's probably not returning it)
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in other words the first person might have had it, but hasn't said anything since, the other person has heard a 'rumour'
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No, in other words: You probably make up stuff all the time and think everybody else does. Stop that.
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I'm seeing a connection here between 'tablets' and 'tabloid' newspapers.
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I'm seeing you on my ignore list.
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I'm afraid I don't understand that - what LED lamp (singular)? I thought whole panel was made up of tons of small "lamps" lighting up?
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That's the way led technology works, but lcd (and i think ips) uses backlights.
I have a little bit of light bleed about 1.5" up on the right hand side of the screen... It's about the size of a 5p coin.
I'm not going to worry about getting anything done about it I don't think. I only notice in in the settings screen, and I'm rarely in there. When I'm in portrait mode, I just see it as a 'glow' on the taskbar.
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That's the way led technology works, but lcd (and i think ips) uses backlights.
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lights - plural? So more than one, right?
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I'm afraid I don't understand that - what LED lamp (singular)? I thought whole panel was made up of tons of small "lamps" lighting up?
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Ah yes, you're right. Was thinking Flouro. In any case, light is leaking reflecting off small gaps from the edges and into the upper layers.
Have you ever tried to completely seal out all light out of a room? It is insanely difficult and amazing how much gets through.
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I have a little bit of light bleed about 1.5" up on the right hand side of the screen... It's about the size of a 5p coin.
I'm not going to worry about getting anything done about it I don't think. I only notice in in the settings screen, and I'm rarely in there. When I'm in portrait mode, I just see it as a 'glow' on the taskbar.
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One guy said his disappeared when he turned down the brightness of the device.
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Ah yes, you're right. Was thinking Flouro. In any case, light is leaking reflecting off small gaps from the edges and into the upper layers.
Have you ever tried to completely seal out all light out of a room? It is insanely difficult and amazing how much gets through.
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No I haven't I generally don't blank out all light and watch stuff that way so I guess i'm ok (incidentally I hear that is bad for the eyes, watching tv in a totally dark room, but that's another talk)
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One guy said his disappeared when he turned down the brightness of the device.
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I'm already on half light, any lower and the screen looks stupid.
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I'm already on half light, any lower and the screen looks stupid.
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I hear it disappears completely when you turn off the device
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lights - plural? So more than one, right?
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Typicaly there are two light sources - at the bottom and at the top of the screen (or on the left and on the right - my LCD monitor has it that way). Sometimes there is only one source - on the bottom mostly.
I'm not sure about this but as far as I know LED backlight works the same way - it's only at the top or bottom in most displays. Some better LCD TVs with LED backlight have more LEDs behind the screen - but it's pricy to do so I doubt tablets will have it that way.
I have a reasonable amount of light bleed on my Transformer. Areas on the horizontal and vertical near the home button.
In addition, a couple of spots on the right hand side vertical.
No major drama, called Comet and they are sending me a replacement, though not until next Thursday when they predict they will have more stock, though given what I have been reading today on various sites, that date could slip a little. Doesn't matter though, my replacement request is logged and will happen when it happens.
On the down side, by the time I get a replacement I will have spent ages getting it just how I want it.
On the up side, I get to have all the fun of setting it up again.
On a side note, having cancelled a preorder for a Xoom through PCWorld and bought the Transformer, I finally got to play with the Xoom on the shelf today.
Definitely made the right decision.
The Transformer just feels better made, and despite the fact that the Xoom has excellent viewing angles, the screen is not a patch on the Transformer, oh, and did I mention the small fact of 100 quid!
The reason I started to asks about this is because I'm a bit skittish about light bleed, having once had a monitor and the store just thinking i was nuts "there is nothing wrong with this monitor its just you" - thanks a lot! Humpf.
Received my replacement transformer the other day and thought it was OK on initial inspection, in a darkened room.
But actually, when you pump the brightness up to full, looking at a black screen (downloaded a black jpeg to test it as in the galley app the software buttons fade out so you get a true picture) it is actually no better than the one I sent back.
So my question is, using that system - black jpeg, full brightness, is there anyone out there who has no light bleed, particularly around the bottom left hand corner?
Cos if there is, it looks like this baby is going back to Comet for a second replacement, and if everyone has it, then I guess I will have to assume its a manufacturing 'feature' and just live with it.
Cheers for your help folks.
Sent from my Transformer using...... fingers.
Glad there is somebody know knows how to test a LCD light bleed properly.
I have the exact same issue. Maybe its part of the design.
J
Check my post in the other light bleed thread. I'd be happy to explain more if you'd like: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13478882&postcount=111
I did everything you said, and see no light bleed in mine. I just got mine today.
I did everything you said, and see no light bleed in mine. I just got mine today.
Has anyone noticed a problem with going from manual brightness to auto, and it not auto adjusting?
No light bleed here.
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Zero light bleed for me as well.
at a very extreme angle i can see a little near the camera. doesn't bother me, i would have never noticed
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Received my replacement transformer the other day and thought it was OK on initial inspection, in a darkened room.
But actually, when you pump the brightness up to full, looking at a black screen (downloaded a black jpeg to test it as in the galley app the software buttons fade out so you get a true picture) it is actually no better than the one I sent back.
So my question is, using that system - black jpeg, full brightness, is there anyone out there who has no light bleed, particularly around the bottom left hand corner?
Cos if there is, it looks like this baby is going back to Comet for a second replacement, and if everyone has it, then I guess I will have to assume its a manufacturing 'feature' and just live with it.
Cheers for your help folks.
Sent from my Transformer using...... fingers.
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I mean... you went through all that to find a defect? I know that we all want the perfect device but how often will the light bleed actually affect us?
I think I also have light bleed but I had to tilt the damn thing to find it and it seemed perfectly fine before reading these posts.
Does it really bother you that much that you're even willing to go through the hassle of exchanging it?
I first noticed it when I booted the tablet with the lights out in the room. I don't have any issues in normal use and it doesn't bother me enough that I'd want to send it back.
I just got my 32GB. I didn't notice it during the daytime, but at night I do see a little towards the top. But not to the point where it bothers me.
Got a couple of small spots along the bottom that i could live with only noticeable if you have light off and brightness at full, one of the corners has quite bad bleed, can see it on darkish screens without even turning lights off or even down.
Considering whether to return it.
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I mean... you went through all that to find a defect? I know that we all want the perfect device but how often will the light bleed actually affect us?
I think I also have light bleed but I had to tilt the damn thing to find it and it seemed perfectly fine before reading these posts.
Does it really bother you that much that you're even willing to go through the hassle of exchanging it?
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'All that' is not really all that to be honest. I downloaded a black jpeg and looked at it whilst sat here watching the telly, took about 30 seconds in all to show up a significant level of light leaking in from the bottom corner.
If you have to tilt your unit to find any light then its not going to be a problem for you. On mine it casts a glow on the bottom corner when I am sat with it on my lap in a normal living room with the table lamp on.
For me there is nothing wrong with wanting a perfect device, I am pretty sure that's what I paid for. Had it not been perfect then Comet would have it marked as 'seconds, and would have charged me quite a bit less.
As it is, it arrived direct from the factory with this defect, and as I have said before, on a £100 cheapie off eBay I would probably put up with it, but not at 400 quid.
Add to this, unless Asus receives units back to their factory with these issues pointed out they will be unaware of the problem and have no incentive to tighten up their manufacturing process.
I don't know what is going on over in the US, but I do know they are far less accepting of poor service/goods than we are in the UK, and if these problems exist in units being shipped over there they will be flying back to Asus at a great rate of knots, and this is with the Us Transformer costing CONSIDERABLY less than it does over here.
If you have a good one, I am happy for you, and slightly envious of you. I wish I did.
On the blue boot screen or setting screen there is massive light bleeding on right and left side (about 2 inches wide). However, when there is an image on the screen it looks fine. Unfortunately I don't have a wireless connection at home so I haven't tried putting any movies or 'black' jpegs on the device for further testing; but will do so tomorrow. My hope is that when playing movies it looks fine and if so I won't worry about it. Screen has good fidelity; speakers seem decent and unit feels lighter than the acer/xoom. Also build doesn't seem that bad.
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So far only immediate reactions are: Why didn't amazon put something in the shipping box like bubble wrap and what the @!#)(* no charging light? Even my $10 cell phone has a charging light.
I asked Asus phone support. They said there should be NO light bleed. I said a couple of times that mine is very slight, from the lower left corner, and he repeated that there shouldn't be any at all and that I should get a replacement.
I'm requesting a replacement anyway as my compass is broken, hopefully I can get one into my local Comet store so I can see for myself first.
A picture, as they say, paints a thousand words.
(and just to rub salt in the wound, discovered the gap along the side of the screen mentioned in another thread! 'Hello, is that Comet? I have something I need to discuss.....')
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80pSCclf9Eg
Light bleed here as well
Just wanted to chime in and say I have it too. At first I didn't notice it because I had just got it.. but after a while I found my eye being drawn down to the edges where there was light bleeding through. Its an unwelcome distraction and this unite will no doubt be exchanged for another one.
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I did everything you said, and see no light bleed in mine. I just got mine today.
Has anyone noticed a problem with going from manual brightness to auto, and it not auto adjusting?
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Auto adjusting works when you turn the screen off then back on.
i feel all of you. One time I bought a car and one of the tire pressures was off by the time I got home. I took the car back to the dealer several times til they got the tire pressures right on all four tires. Took a month to get it right. The nerve of these manufacturers.
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i feel all of you. One time I bought a car and one of the tire pressures was off by the time I got home. I took the car back to the dealer several times til they got the tire pressures right on all four tires. Took a month to get it right. The nerve of these manufacturers.
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No, this is more like buying a new car and your car doors or windows not shutting fully.
Hi guys,
Story of my life. I preordered my S8+ on March 30th, received it on April 20th. Reading about pink tint I was happy not to see any. But what I got was green tint across the whole screen. On top of that the curved edges were really visible and had this glowing effect, as described in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/help/dark-edges-t3593730
I decided to return it and ordered another two units. The first one was completely pink, using the white balance sliders and the color calibration code (*#15987#) helped a little, but it was still pink. The other one had dead pixels near one of the curved edges and was greenish in one part of the screen. I returned all of them.
I'm stubborn (and like the phone design a lot) so I bought another three (this time I took some photos which I attached below). The first one had extremely greenish tint and as any other greenish screen the curved edges were really visible and had this glowing effect.
The second one was entirely pink including the pinkish edges and the third one was pink only at the top. Playing with white balance and color calibration did not help, only lowered the effect a little bit.
To make it worse one unit had splinter on the frame straight out of the box.
There is a guy on polish forum of S8+ who got twelve units of S8+ and only one was perfect: http://forum.android.com.pl/topic/314518-ekran-w-galaxy-s8-plus/?page=19#comment-5078692
Is it only in my beloved country so hard to get the perfect screen (by perfect I mean not pink nor green, without dead pixels) or were we so unlucky ? It seems almost impossible to get the good unit. I'm really tired of not being able to enjoy mine new device. I'm thinking about buying another 5 units from different sources. I will give it a last chance ...
PS. To make it clear - I'm buying new phones almost every year since 10 years and never had such issues. I had to replace one of my phones just once in my entire life! So I'm not that kind of person seeing issues everywhere, I'm just not agreeing to pay full price for a device with such flaws.
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Hi guys,
Story of my life. I preordered my S8+ on March 30th, received it on April 20th. Reading about pink tint I was happy not to see any. But what I got was green tint across the whole screen. On top of that the curved edges were really visible and had this glowing effect, as described in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/help/dark-edges-t3593730
I decided to return it and ordered another two units. The first one was completely pink, using the white balance sliders and the color calibration code (*#15987#) helped a little, but it was still pink. The other one had dead pixels near one of the curved edges and was greenish in one part of the screen. I returned all of them.
I'm stubborn (and like the phone design a lot) so I bought another three (this time I took some photos which I attached below). The first one had extremely greenish tint and as any other greenish screen the curved edges were really visible and had this glowing effect.
The second one was entirely pink including the pinkish edges and the third one was pink only at the top. Playing with white balance and color calibration did not help, only lowered the effect a little bit.
To make it worse one unit had splinter on the frame straight out of the box.
There is a guy on polish forum of S8+ who got twelve units of S8+ and only one was perfect: http://forum.android.com.pl/topic/314518-ekran-w-galaxy-s8-plus/?page=19#comment-5078692
Is it only in my beloved country so hard to get the perfect screen (by perfect I mean not pink nor green, without dead pixels) or were we so unlucky ? It seems almost impossible to get the good unit. I'm really tired of not being able to enjoy mine new device. I'm thinking about buying another 5 units from different sources. I will give it a last chance ...
PS. To make it clear - I'm buying new phones almost every year since 10 years and never had such issues. I had to replace one of my phones just once in my entire life! So I'm not that kind of person seeing issues everywhere, I'm just not agreeing to pay full price for a device with such flaws.
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I feel you. I don't know what to say to help, but if it is any consolation I know exactly how you are feeling. A few years back I had a similar problem with the BlackBerry Passport. I ended up exchanging about 12 devices before I found one that didn't have flaws out of the box. I got roasted on the CrackBerry forums for it, but proof was all there. I simply got 12 broken devices out of the box... Seems unreal almost, but it happens.
I couldn't care less if there was a green or a blue or a pink or a yellow tint. It still does the same job.
Your best bet is to just wait until the first few batches are pushed out and just wait until samsung makes more phones..let everyone else buy up all the pink ones. This could take months though, maybe about 3. Either way, buying an AMOLED is similar to buying an LCD; you will get lucky if you don't get dead pixels or screen tint issues.
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I couldn't care less if there was a green or a blue or a pink or a yellow tint. It still does the same job.
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That's true but wouldn't an older device as well? People should be getting quality products for the price.
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I couldn't care less if there was a green or a blue or a pink or a yellow tint. It still does the same job.
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Couldnt agree more!!!!
Don't see what the problem is regarding screen tint issue, Samsung is aware of it and said they can address it through a software update. I would've just waited for that and changed my screen color ratio in the mean time. Also the pictures you showed with the dead pixels, either I'm blind or it wouldn't honestly make a difference or you wouldn't even notice it in daily usage. Just my two cents
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That's true but wouldn't an older device as well? People should be getting quality products for the price.
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People should indeed get quality products for their money, but this seems to be a new obsession when it comes to new phones. People sitting there all day looking at a white screen trying to find an imperfection. If you use the phone day to day, there is no way you would even notice it.
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Don't see what the problem is regarding screen tint issue, Samsung is aware of it and said they can address it through a software update. I would've just waited for that and changed my screen color ratio in the mean time. Also the pictures you showed with the dead pixels, either I'm blind or it wouldn't honestly make a difference or you wouldn't even notice it in daily usage. Just my two cents
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People should indeed get quality products for their money, but this seems to be a new obsession when it comes to new phones. People sitting there all day looking at a white screen trying to find an imperfection. If you use the phone day to day, there is no way you would even notice it.
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When you pay $1,300 for something, like I did for my S8+, you want it to be flawless, at least physically. We all work hard for our money, one way or the other. I won't stand for throwing it away on a semi-defective device, no matter how small the defect.
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When you pay $1,300 for something, like I did for my S8+, you want it to be flawless, at least physically. We all work hard for our money, one way or the other. I won't stand for throwing it away on a semi-defective device, no matter how small the defect.
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I thought I was having a screen issue ... but it was just my eyes .. however im having audio output issues and im pissed off ... had to use a speaker booster for everything ... at full volume its like 1/3 of full on my note 4 ... going to Verizon to test the sample phones to mine
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When you pay $1,300 for something, like I did for my S8+, you want it to be flawless, at least physically. We all work hard for our money, one way or the other. I won't stand for throwing it away on a semi-defective device, no matter how small the defect.
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Ohh oh... You hoping for something that will never happen, good luck!
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Ohh oh... You hoping for something that will never happen, good luck!
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I got a perfect device with the S8+, thankfully, on first go. Software wise, different story, but HW is flawless. It's hit and miss.
If they are going to start setting a precedent where they are asking for laptop money for a phone, then we need to respond by expecting that it at least comes as advertised. When we start dropping our standards while they keep raising the price, then we are all in for ever-increasing amounts of agro as they will just assume x% of people will just take it up the wrong-un and keep coming back for more. For this money, if there are any hardware defects out of the box, back it goes. But those are just my standards.
In response to the OP, sounds like you are ordering replacments from the same borked batch. I'd either find a new source or wait for the scruffy units to go elesewhere.
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I got a perfect device with the S8+, thankfully, on first go. Software wise, different story, but HW is flawless. It's hit and miss.
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Ya, its also entirely subjective and dependant upon the individual, but good on ya for being at peace.
Software wise, im rooted and am able to enhance my android experiance on this device were i deem fit; so very pleased with this device.
Mine is absolutely flawless, want to buy ?)
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Ya, its also entirely subjective and dependant upon the individual, but good on ya for being at peace.
Software wise, im rooted and am able to enhance my android experiance on this device were i deem fit; so very pleased with this device.
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There is nothing subjective about having a color balanced display, no visible marks, flaws, or any other defects anywhere on the body, and no dead or stuck pixels. All ports and speakers work, mics all work, etc. No, physically perfect is not subjective. It's very much objective, based on factual observations about the conditions of the device. Besides, as the poster above has said as well, if they're going to be asking laptop money for a phone it better be flawless.
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There is nothing subjective about having a color balanced display, no visible marks, flaws, or any other defects anywhere on the body, and no dead or stuck pixels. All ports and speakers work, mics all work, etc. No, physically perfect is not subjective. It's very much objective, based on factual observations about the conditions of the device. Besides, as the poster above has said as well, if they're going to be asking laptop money for a phone it better be flawless.
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Your argument is still predicated on your interpretation of perfection, so that it is subjective! Feel free to dispute that further, lol.
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Your argument is still predicated on your interpretation of perfection, so that it is subjective! Feel free to dispute that further, lol.
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This is a pretty comical comment. Your argument amounts to everything being subjective. Why is a square a square? Why is it not a triangle? Because a square has 4 equal sides and 90 degree angles connecting all sides to each other. That's not subjective; it is mathematically objective. The same way, a perfect display is one that is without defects. A perfect phone body is one without scuffs. You either have dead pixels or you don't. You either have scuffs or you don't. Your display is centered in the frame of the phone, or it isn't. Your display is using a proper white-point, or it is not. These are not subjective things. The state is binary.
mrvain84 said:
Hi guys,
Story of my life. I preordered my S8+ on March 30th, received it on April 20th. Reading about pink tint I was happy not to see any. But what I got was green tint across the whole screen. On top of that the curved edges were really visible and had this glowing effect, as described in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/help/dark-edges-t3593730
I decided to return it and ordered another two units. The first one was completely pink, using the white balance sliders and the color calibration code (*#15987#) helped a little, but it was still pink. The other one had dead pixels near one of the curved edges and was greenish in one part of the screen. I returned all of them.
I'm stubborn (and like the phone design a lot) so I bought another three (this time I took some photos which I attached below). The first one had extremely greenish tint and as any other greenish screen the curved edges were really visible and had this glowing effect.
The second one was entirely pink including the pinkish edges and the third one was pink only at the top. Playing with white balance and color calibration did not help, only lowered the effect a little bit.
To make it worse one unit had splinter on the frame straight out of the box.
There is a guy on polish forum of S8+ who got twelve units of S8+ and only one was perfect: http://forum.android.com.pl/topic/314518-ekran-w-galaxy-s8-plus/?page=19#comment-5078692
Is it only in my beloved country so hard to get the perfect screen (by perfect I mean not pink nor green, without dead pixels) or were we so unlucky ? It seems almost impossible to get the good unit. I'm really tired of not being able to enjoy mine new device. I'm thinking about buying another 5 units from different sources. I will give it a last chance ...
PS. To make it clear - I'm buying new phones almost every year since 10 years and never had such issues. I had to replace one of my phones just once in my entire life! So I'm not that kind of person seeing issues everywhere, I'm just not agreeing to pay full price for a device with such flaws.
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see here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3593263
i have these issues since years, but this time it's extreme...
I've seen a lot (nearly 20) S8+ now, only 3 of them had an almost perfect screen!
the deviations are really huge, and that's the biggest problem in my eyes...
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Can we get a moderrator to change the title of this thread to; LCD is better than AMOLED (because this is what this thread is really about(I prefer amoled btw))
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After trying and failing with the S8/S8+ I decided to go for the U11.
I ordered two phones from Amazon, one for myself and one for family. They were the amazing silver. We powered them on, and then noticed backlight bleed along the lower edge. The guy on this review is the only reviewer who mentions it and shows the problem:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...pretty-good-phone-if-anyones-still-listening/
Not only that, but both phones had a dead pixel on the screen (But I think that's just my bad luck . I took it on myself to watch reviews on youtube, and I think the lower edge problem has been there on every review unit, but no reviewer mentioned it.
I really am considering a switch to the U11, but I have a serious screen OCD so I wanted to put it to you guys... Do you all experience this? And is it terribly bad on every day performance?
Thanks
evak2979 said:
After trying and failing with the S8/S8+ I decided to go for the U11.
I ordered two phones from Amazon, one for myself and one for family. They were the amazing silver. We powered them on, and then noticed backlight bleed along the lower edge. The guy on this review is the only reviewer who mentions it and shows the problem:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...pretty-good-phone-if-anyones-still-listening/
Not only that, but both phones had a dead pixel on the screen (But I think that's just my bad luck . I took it on myself to watch reviews on youtube, and I think the lower edge problem has been there on every review unit, but no reviewer mentioned it.
I really am considering a switch to the U11, but I have a serious screen OCD so I wanted to put it to you guys... Do you all experience this? And is it terribly bad on every day performance?
Thanks
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I don't have it at all that I can see. Sorry for your luck but my device is flawless.
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I don't have it at all that I can see. Sorry for your luck but my device is flawless.
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Thanks for the quick response. Check this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/u11/help/minor-issues-stuck-pixel-sound-static-t3621512
A guy posted a picture as a response. See the shadow along the bottom edge? If you don't have that, at all, this gives me hope. What color is your device if you don't mind me asking.
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Thanks for the quick response. Check this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/u11/help/minor-issues-stuck-pixel-sound-static-t3621512
A guy posted a picture as a response. See the shadow along the bottom edge? If you don't have that, at all, this gives me hope. What color is your device if you don't mind me asking.
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No shadow, no dead pixels (just went through a full pixel test - jeez this backlight will blind you on full!), no scuffed glass, nothing. It's the first device I've ever gotten from HTC with no complaints about the screen (my M7 had a yellow tint as did the M8 and the first few weeks of owning my 10, the glue hadn't settled so it was pink tinted and I had to have the Sprint store open up 8 EVOs before I found an acceptable screen to give you an idea - never had a dead pixel except on AMOLED ironically enough).
It's the Sapphire Blue.
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No shadow, no dead pixels (just went through a full pixel test - jeez this backlight will blind you on full!), no scuffed glass, nothing. It's the first device I've ever gotten from HTC with no complaints about the screen (my M7 had a yellow tint as did the M8 and the first few weeks of owning my 10, the glue hadn't settled so it was pink tinted and I had to have the Sprint store open up 8 EVOs before I found an acceptable screen to give you an idea - never had a dead pixel except on AMOLED ironically enough).
It's the Sapphire Blue.
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Thanks mate I do love the phone, and am considering another go. My guess is you are -very- lucky, most of the units I've seen myself on youtube (if not all), have it to a certain extend. Treasure and keep it !
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Thanks mate I do love the phone, and am considering another go. My guess is you are -very- lucky, most of the units I've seen myself on youtube (if not all), have it to a certain extend. Treasure and keep it !
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Yeah out of all phones I've ever ordered, this one is by far my favorite. Ridiculous battery life, no lag, great screen, no gimmicks (edge sense is actually quite useful - I use it to launch my camera immediately when I'm out and about), excellent camera, doesn't overheat, crystal clear call quality, loud speaker set up... Only thing I don't like is News Republic chewing up my battery and not being able to disable it.
I haven't even rooted it yet. Every other phone I've rooted within a week, oftentimes the day I've received it. I ordered it May 16th from HTC on pre-order and got it on June 9th. No phone has ever been in my possession that long without being modded somehow, even if it was just changing the launcher.
The light bleed problem affected every review unit as you said, and there have been several threads here mentioning it. My conclusion is that nearly every U11 has the problem although it's rather subtle so not easy not to notice if you don't know about it.
Personally I'm rather OCD about screens and I'm not happy about this defect but I'm now used to it. The location is just one that you don't look at normally. In fact I think we've grown used to ignore the lowest part of the screen as it's where ads normally sit. Also it kinda helps that the bleed gets reduced a lot depending on the angle you look at the screen from.
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The light bleed problem affected every review unit as you said, and there have been several threads here mentioning it. My conclusion is that nearly every U11 has the problem although it's rather subtle so not easy not to notice if you don't know about it.
Personally I'm rather OCD about screens and I'm not happy about this defect but I'm now used to it. The location is just one that you don't look at normally. In fact I think we've grown used to ignore the lowest part of the screen as it's where ads normally sit. Also it kinda helps that the bleed gets reduced a lot depending on the angle you look at the screen from.
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Thanks. I am considering getting a device regardless. I will ponder it over the weekend - and if you are OCD and can live with it, so must I. If you can help with advice on how to deal with such impulses (over screens), do drop me a message. I am desperately trying to drop that habit off.
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Thanks. I am considering getting a device regardless. I will ponder it over the weekend - and if you are OCD and can live with it, so must I. If you can help with advice on how to deal with such impulses (over screens), do drop me a message. I am desperately trying to drop that habit off.
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I'm very OCD regarding LCD screen and the phone itself. The phone is perfect except for the light bleeding, a stuck pixel and some sound static in earphone. Otherwise the phone is perfect like the camera, sound, battery life and performance.
As I bought the phone from Hong Kong its a pain in the... To return it. So with a 10% discount off that seller gave me I learned to enjoy and love the phone.
My HTC One X, M8x, 10 U11 and the S8+ all suffered from flaws being the S8+ the worst (random restarting and pinkish screen tone) so I'm not a lucky person about phones.
@evak2979 i sent you a message but basically it's about accepting defeat when it comes to small flaws, unfortunately there's not more to it. Although of course, if your phone has serious build issues that no one else has it should go back to HTC.
I have is as well. Actually this is my second unit (Black), the previous (Silver) had it as well. I can see it in display test application but I would say it is not affecting normal usage. Overall I am happy with display quality.
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I have is as well. Actually this is my second unit (Black), the previous (Silver) had it as well. I can see it in display test application but I would say it is not affecting normal usage. Overall I am happy with display quality.
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Like I told my new pal on PM, I got the S8+ new for a very good price (539, UK).
If that sinks, I'll bite the bullet and return to HTC. It's funny because I don't mind scuffs, or scratches, or what. I just want a normal okay screen. I remember being happy with Note 4, with S5, With M8, With M9.
Then this new fashion started with every display being the dumbs
And the S8+ arrived with dust under the glass.
I've fought for a long time with my OCD to accept that AMOLEDs will never have consistent whites (though my one plus 3t is perfect, the one phone I've kept over the months). As of late with the S8 it's also been, full red edges, dead pixels, dust specs.
Let's try the U11 again. If it just has light bleed and no dead pixels I'll keep it...
I don't have light bleed.
I use edge to launch my calendar.
Sound through the earphones is shockingly good!
It looks dated in any other color but blue or red.
Those bezels? Ug.
The screen is beautiful and they've coated with oleophilics that feel INCREDIBLE.
The camera is excellent.
It's a very VERY good phone.
I have it on mine, but It's hardly even noticeable... Definitely not a game-changer for me. It's not enough for me to return it for a new one.
Just updating that I received my HTC U11 black, and I sent it back with a dead pixel. That's the third U11 with dead pixels, the first two having been silvers from Amazon.
I have also encountered issues with S8s (dust under glass), but not so much or frequent.
I want to get a U11 more than I do an S8, but I am really really skeptical about a few things - the build quality of the panel. The reports that some of the units are not so water proof (The solar reds apparently, a youtube search I did testified to that.
Sorry for diverting this thread from its original post, but I am really curious about you guys' opinion. I agree to having screen OCD, and that I should lower my standards when it comes to white consistency on AMOLED, for example. Or even some light bleed on LCD panels.
But dead pixels? Dead pixels on 649 pound devices, top end flagship? What is going on with QC and how lost must we drop our standards.
And if anyone thinks I am lying I am happy to provide with pictures...
If anyone from the UK has a relatively faultless HTC, please tell me where you bought it from so I can buy from there myself. And which color variant.
Thank you.
Hi, I believe you as I have the same problem with my Asian version. But can you share a picture? I want to compare mine with yours.
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Thanks. I am considering getting a device regardless. I will ponder it over the weekend - and if you are OCD and can live with it, so must I. If you can help with advice on how to deal with such impulses (over screens), do drop me a message. I am desperately trying to drop that habit off.
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evak2979 said:
Just updating that I received my HTC U11 black, and I sent it back with a dead pixel. That's the third U11 with dead pixels, the first two having been silvers from Amazon.
I have also encountered issues with S8s (dust under glass), but not so much or frequent.
I want to get a U11 more than I do an S8, but I am really really skeptical about a few things - the build quality of the panel. The reports that some of the units are not so water proof (The solar reds apparently, a youtube search I did testified to that.
Sorry for diverting this thread from its original post, but I am really curious about you guys' opinion. I agree to having screen OCD, and that I should lower my standards when it comes to white consistency on AMOLED, for example. Or even some light bleed on LCD panels.
But dead pixels? Dead pixels on 649 pound devices, top end flagship? What is going on with QC and how lost must we drop our standards.
And if anyone thinks I am lying I am happy to provide with pictures...
If anyone from the UK has a relatively faultless HTC, please tell me where you bought it from so I can buy from there myself. And which color variant.
Thank you.
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Jadraker said:
Hi, I believe you as I have the same problem with my Asian version. But can you share a picture? I want to compare mine with yours.
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Of course...Here. Same on all three, just in different positions.
Mine is in a similar position but it's not black. Indeed it changes according to the color but of course it's different from the rest. Mine is more a defective pixel than a dead or stuck one. I thought it was the same pixel issue but it's not.
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Of course...Here. Same on all three, just in different positions.
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Jadraker said:
Mine is in a similar position but it's not black. Indeed it changes according to the color but of course it's different from the rest. Mine is more a defective pixel than a dead or stuck one. I thought it was the same pixel issue but it's not.
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Nah mine is dead dead.
I am considering a 4th U11. At this point, I don't even care about the light bleed. But 3/3 with dead pixels, it can't just be bad luck. That's the thing. I mean this is very bad QC. None of the reviewers are mentioning things like this. Or the issues with the S8 screen.
I think at this point someone needs to step up and say : ok guys, these are the GOOD things about the phone. But there is also
S8 (red tints, even after patch. Bad smudges on grey. Dust particles under panel)
U11 (Dead pixels. Light bleed at bottom of the screen).
In the end, the only trustworthy review is XDA forums and its users.
Have a Note 9 which I'm keeping, just got the Ultra and the display is a disappointment.
Side by side with the 9, colors are not as vibrant, contrast is so-so, sharpness is off. Fine details, icon edges, etc. are fuzzy.
Now, I'm anal about this kinda stuff. If I never saw the 9's screen, I'd never know and think it's fine, and to most, it would be. But this is me you're talkin' to. ?
I don't know whether to return it or pray for a Samsung fix. I'm not a gambling man. I've gone through every display setting and resolution there is, including dev options. I'm pretty experienced.
Maybe it's Nova launcher, but it's just not as nice as the 9's screen. Exact same home screen, icon theme, everything identical.
Your thoughts/opinions/gut feelings? Got till next week to return to Best Buy.
Thanks a lot,
Rich
You're 100% right, my N20U has a yellowish dirty white look to it when compared to my N10+
I doubt Samsung sees this as a defect until all of us report it as a defect so they can fix it with a software update.
Using vivid mode with green slider turned to lower setting helps but that's about it...
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VICosPhi said:
You're 100% right, my N20U has a yellowish dirty white look to it when compared to my N10+
I doubt Samsung sees this as a defect until all of us report it as a defect so they can fix it with a software update.
Using vivid mode with green slider turned to lower setting helps but that's about it...
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I posted in another thread that I got an app - Screen Balance - from the play store. With that I was able to get rid of more green as it has several adjustments for white balance. Use various adjustments judiciously. I like things cool. Seems *all* amoleds look green to me anyway.
Lest anyone thinks I'm spamming the app, since I mentioned it in another thread, I am not. Just a much happier user. ?
Doesn't solve the aforementioned problems though.
My gripe is temporary image retention. Using dark mode and gray screens, sometimes, the outline of the keyboard will remain on the screen for 5-10 seconds. I notice that if one uses the phone in light mode, it seems perfect, but once in dark mode, it has some minor flaws.
It's funny to see so many of these posts popping up. I made a post about this before as well that the screen has an overall yellowish greenish overtone to it. In fact, mine got worse. Now I have screen burn in. It's crazy since I don't have my phone at high brightness. It's somewhere in the middle. This is the first time I have to have a screen replaced. I miss my note 9 so much. If the note 9 had an ultra wide camera, I would so have kept it. This is likely the most problematic note I've owned. I had 3 note ultra in the past and they are all the same in terms of display. There's no escaping it. If you call the Samsung costumer service, they aren't allowed to admit issues with the device that Samsung hasn't cleared for them to admit, so they'll deny any screen issues at this time. I was going to trade this in for the Oneplus 8 pro, but they aren't taking Note 20 ultras as a trade in device, so may still sell or try to hold on till S21 ultra and pray by then Samsung corrects this new line of Amoled screens.
This is the screen burn in that I have unfortunately. Going to get the screen replaced, hopefully this weekend.
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This is the screen burn in that I have unfortunately. Going to get the screen replaced, hopefully this weekend.
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Burn-in does not show in screenshots, It will only be visible on your device as it is the physical screen with the damage
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Burn-in does not show in screenshots, It will only be visible on your device as it is the physical screen with the damage
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Then it's a mystery what that anomaly is. I am not the only one as a member in another forum posted similar. Image retention maybe? I don't know. But whatever it is, it's not going away and the Samsung phone techs agree I need to change the screen. Hopefully the new one doesn't do this.
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It's funny to see so many of these posts popping up. I made a post about this before as well that the screen has an overall yellowish greenish overtone to it. In fact, mine got worse. Now I have screen burn in. It's crazy since I don't have my phone at high brightness. It's somewhere in the middle. This is the first time I have to have a screen replaced. I miss my note 9 so much. If the note 9 had an ultra wide camera, I would so have kept it. This is likely the most problematic note I've owned. I had 3 note ultra in the past and they are all the same in terms of display. There's no escaping it. If you call the Samsung costumer service, they aren't allowed to admit issues with the device that Samsung hasn't cleared for them to admit, so they'll deny any screen issues at this time. I was going to trade this in for the Oneplus 8 pro, but they aren't taking Note 20 ultras as a trade in device, so may still sell or try to hold on till S21 ultra and pray by then Samsung corrects this new line of Amoled screens.
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Oh geezzzz...that:s not encouraging.. looks like I'm holding on hoping for a soft/firmware update. A replacement would probly have the same or worse issue. No burn in here so far.
Definitely keeping my note 9!
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Then it's a mystery what that anomaly is. I am not the only one as a member in another forum posted similar. Image retention maybe? I don't know. But whatever it is, it's not going away and the Samsung phone techs agree I need to change the screen. Hopefully the new one doesn't do this.
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Your screenshot looks clear to me on my PC, so if you are seeing burn-in then it will be on your screen and will need a replacement, what I was saying is you cannot send someone a SS to show them the burn-in, they would need to look at your screen with their eyes
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This is the screen burn in that I have unfortunately. Going to get the screen replaced, hopefully this weekend.
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Bro did you just try to screen shot your screen burn ? :laugh: You need to click with another camera
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warriorvibhu said:
Bro did you just try to screen shot your screen burn ? :laugh: You need to click with another camera
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Hahaha lol I just realized the error of my ways :laugh:
I've never had such screen anomalies before. Still can't understand how it got there since I don't keep my phone at max brightness. Guess I got unlucky this time around.
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Hahaha lol I just realized the error of my ways :laugh:
I've never had such screen anomalies before. Still can't understand how it got there since I don't keep my phone at max brightness. Guess I got unlucky this time around.
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Same image on the screen for extended periods can cause it too, so if you're always in WhatsApp chat or Facebook app and the same thing is always on the screen you'll be more likely to see it then too
Mrplennium said:
Hahaha lol I just realized the error of my ways :laugh:
I've never had such screen anomalies before. Still can't understand how it got there since I don't keep my phone at max brightness. Guess I got unlucky this time around.
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Yeah i used to worry a lot about this as i know there are batches of screens that have this problem. Initially i thought the green yellow tint problem was also in some batches esp when Display mate gave this screen such high rating, which means they are all who have sold their souls for money and not honest, so thought mine was a bad batch but it seems everyone has this tint issue. Its sad that you have burn in but its more common than you think. Many people got it with the Samsung View case too.
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Yeah i used to worry a lot about this as i know there are batches of screens that have this problem. Initially i thought the green yellow tint problem was also in some batches esp when Display mate gave this screen such high rating, which means they are all who have sold their souls for money and not honest, so thought mine was a bad batch but it seems everyone has this tint issue. Its sad that you have burn in but its more common than you think. Many people got it with the Samsung View case too.
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Yeah, pretty unfortunate. I did see the issues with the Samsung cases causing the burn in as well. What's funny is that if you speak to a supervisor at the Samsung customer service number and tell them about the screen issues and you have someone else with a Samsung phone call them back hours or a day later and get the same supervisor, they'll tell you that they never had one complaint about the screen. Unless Samsung instructs them it's an issue they can fix, they will not admit it. Still hoping Samsung can correct the yellowish greenish overtone of the general display.
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Cracked screen show up well using a screen shot
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Cracked screen show up well using a screen shot
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Scratches show even better ? :silly: