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Hey do any of you have a Surface Pro? Can you test out the stylus from your Surface Pro with the Samsung Galaxy Note 4? I read in the YouTube comments that it works for Samsung Galaxy Note 2 and even the eraser function on this 2003 Cintiq stylus works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFlAqR0SWyk
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Hey do any of you have a Surface Pro? Can you test out the stylus from your Surface Pro with the Samsung Galaxy Note 4? I read in the YouTube comments that it works for Samsung Galaxy Note 2 and even the eraser function on this 2003 Cintiq stylus works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFlAqR0SWyk
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l did not know that.
as far as the surface, it looks awesome but nobody is buying it. I honestly do not know a single person that has one.
Surface pro 2 pens work as they use wacom feel tech, sp3 pens will NOT work.
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Hey do any of you have a Surface Pro? Can you test out the stylus from your Surface Pro with the Samsung Galaxy Note 4? I read in the YouTube comments that it works for Samsung Galaxy Note 2 and even the eraser function on this 2003 Cintiq stylus works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFlAqR0SWyk
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I have Surface Pro v1 and note 4 , both pens work inter-operate just fine i would like pen like Surface Pro in Note for its size
sprintuser1977 said:
l did not know that.
as far as the surface, it looks awesome but nobody is buying it. I honestly do not know a single person that has one.
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Man, completely different experience here. I know 8 people that have surface 3 pro, and 3-4 that have surface 1 pro.
Basically everyone I know that is into 'thin' laptops, and not a Mac user, has a surface pro 3.
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Pro 2 pen works, but definitely feels like plastic gliding on glass vs the S-Pen or Pro 3 pen feeling a bit more realistic. The eraser function works as far as actually erasing bits of a stroke and not an entire stroke. The button brings up air command. But the capacitive buttons do not work. The pen is also not calibrated properly because the "dot" appears slightly to the right of the pen tip (for righties) or to the left (for lefties).
sprintuser1977 said:
l did not know that.
as far as the surface, it looks awesome but nobody is buying it. I honestly do not know a single person that has one.
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We have bought 15...great systems. now that you know me you can change your statement and forget about media and marketing wars. I am using the pen right now. It's very bizarre since it works for clicks, it doesn't work on the keyboard nor on the S pen pad...
Interesting, I have a surface pro 1 and i'll test it later when I get home tonight. Funny thing, I know multiple people have surface pro as well. I know it's not selling like the iPad or android tablet but it's a full blown PC in tablet form. I guess microsoft is not marketing it well enough for people to mistaken as just a tablet.
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l did not know that.
as far as the surface, it looks awesome but nobody is buying it. I honestly do not know a single person that has one.
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I've got a Surface Pro 3 I use for work. As the IT manager, I could have gotten a tablet, laptop and desktop. I chose to just try the the Surface Pro 3 with docking station. I have two 27" Samsung monitors and the Surface works well as a desktop replacement with it's SSD's, i7 and 16GB of RAM. When I go to meetings I just rip the keyboard off and use it as a tablet.
My only complaint lies with Windows 8.1. What it doesn't do and what I hope Windows 10 does is to dynamically adjust my resolution depending if it's docked or not. 1920x1080 looks great on my 27" monitors, but on my 12" display I would need a magnifying glass. So I have to change rez when I undock. I hope the OS will become more aware of such things in the future.
My Wacom Intuos pen doesn't work though.
I have a SP1 that I bought used, for drawing, didn't come with a pen, and i've always used the one for my Note 10.1 with it.
My motioncomputing Wacom pen works in N4. Erasure works as well. Using Wacom and Note1 SPen on Note1, or Wacom and Note3 SPen on Note3 felt similar. But using the same Wacom and N4 SPen on Note4 is very different. First I realized I need to press little harder when using Wacom and the dot is not properly aligned. It must be that N4 SPen has better technology built in.
Is there any actual upgrade on the in display fingerprint sensor?
Should be Gen 2, so definitely faster and more accurate than the 6T :good:
Pankajghosh said:
Is there any actual upgrade on the in display fingerprint sensor?
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Should be faster being Gen 2.
Should be disappointing due to still being an optical scanner.
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Should be faster being Gen 2.
Should be disappointing due to still being an optical scanner.
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6T has been pretty good for me so if it's even a small improvement on that I'll be happy
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Should be faster being Gen 2.
Should be disappointing due to still being an optical scanner.
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Unfortunately ultrasonic fingerprint scanner are much more expensive than optical even Huawei and P30 Pro got with optical and not ultrasonic.
I've heard that in Galaxy S10/10 Plus it's the second most expensive component after the OLED panel.
So in order to not increase much more the price of 7 oneplus deside use optical again but would be better implementation than 6T both accuracy and speed unlocking.
I would expect to be on par with P30 Pro and Oppo Reno performance.
On the other hand since BBK group having invest more than a year on optical technology evolving each generation every few months (We are now on 6th generation like on Oppo Reno has) I really doubt will ever use ultrasonic sensor near time soon unless become much more affordable to oneplus(oneplus 8 maybe)
But don't forget Vivo and Oppo are working on next generation that will work all across the screen without needed light up sensor)
That would be the ultimate solution not needed specific and very small erea like today both ultrasonic and optical using.
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As per the rumor Oneplus 7 will sticks with the optical sensor like an Oneplus 6t. Ultrasonic is quite expensive, Maybe in the next series of Oneplus they can use USFPS.
This time the response time for the fingerprint will be faster than the One Plus 6t.
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Unfortunately ultrasonic fingerprint scanner are much more expensive than optical even Huawei and P30 Pro got with optical and not ultrasonic.
I've heard that in Galaxy S10/10 Plus it's the second most expensive component after the OLED panel.
So in order to not increase much more the price of 7 oneplus deside use optical again but would be better implementation than 6T both accuracy and speed unlocking.
I would expect to be on par with P30 Pro and Oppo Reno performance.
On the other hand since BBK group having invest more than a year on optical technology evolving each generation every few months (We are now on 6th generation like on Oppo Reno has) I really doubt will ever use ultrasonic sensor near time soon unless become much more affordable to oneplus(oneplus 8 maybe)
But don't forget Vivo and Oppo are working on next generation that will work all across the screen without needed light up sensor)
That would be the ultimate solution not needed specific and very small erea like today both ultrasonic and optical using.
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So, In upcoming years we can expect an Ultrasonic sensor on the Oneplus or an Optical which is very faster compare to this 2ndGen.
The FP sensor has 3 lenses and 3x optical zoom.
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The FP sensor has 3 lenses and 3x optical zoom.
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From where did you got this information??
Put all specs bs aside, buttom line:
Less screen .
Les battery.
Optic zoom *2 only....
No headphone jack.
No dedicated second stereo speaker (earpiece).
Price-LOL...
Your opinion?
Having just purchased the Mate 20 X 5G I can honestly say it's a stunning device, and that I really do love the 7.2" Display.
As you will be aware the 5G variant doesn't have a headphone jack (this doesn't concern me as all my headphones are Bluetooth).
I have also Pre-ordered the Note 10+ 5G I don't think it's inferior, intact it's the only device that incorporates the pen and it's actually a fully functional tool (yes we have the M-Pen) but it's not quite the same.
I never dismiss a product but I do agree that for the Note line it ought to have been better and for me personally that would have just taken two things (on top of what was announced) those are a 90hz Display & 5000mah battery. This didn't happen and was a disappointment to which I think Samsung will regret.
However as I don't own a Samsung currently to have both the Mate 20 X 5G & The note 10+ 5G I'm in a very happy position. Two powerhouses that perform very differently but each has their own strengths and weaknesses.
I own a EVR-L29 (Mate 20 regular version)
I was an avid user of the Note line (as shown in my signature), and i always had issues with battery life not lasting long enough. I use it a lot during my daily commute & work (Spotify, 3D Gaming, Google Maps, BT headphones & Smartwatch, Note-Taking, Youtube & a lot of photo/video taking). I always had to charge intermittently whenever i could.
After switching to the Mate 20 X, I never had to charge at any point throughout the day/carry a power bank. It just lasted me until night despite my power use. The big screen was a joy to look at and game with.
The only thing i missed from the Note was the S-Pen. Sure the Mate 20 X has the Mpen but it feels hard & slippery and counterintuitive to use. I also wish the Note 10+ had a bigger battery but understand the space constraints when factoring the space needed for the SPen.
Having said that, like @Duncan1982 I have pre-ordered the Note 10+ (non-5G) and will use both devices. Lets see how the new Note fares.
Wouldn't trade mine M20X(4G) for any sammy device.
5000mah 7.2 inch amazing cameras and performance and awesome speakers
Wait for mate30.
Do any of you have issues with the mate 20x fitting in your pockets?
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Do any of you have issues with the mate 20x fitting in your pockets?
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no problem in the front pockets
q8_devil said:
Wait for mate30.
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There's a rumor that the Mate 30 X variant may not come out. Have to wait and see.
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Do any of you have issues with the mate 20x fitting in your pockets?
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I noticed the slight bulge in my regular front pocket initially, but after awhile it felt normal
I'm interested in what the screen size difference is side by side. 6.8 vs 7.2, but the note plus has a larger screen to body ratio. Has anyone held both yet? One in each hand. Interested in how big of a difference the screen size actually is.
Let's face it, the note 10 For day to day usage it will never be as good as mate 20 x in the area that matters the most, BATTERY LIFE. Galaxy Note series always had it's own magic that called the Spen but to be honest, better camera and longer battery life is all that matters these days since even the 300$ phones have the speed and good displays nowadays
The longer I have this phone, the more valuable it is to me. You see the new phones coming out, with mediocre upgrades and a hefty price tag.
Note 10 Plus is a great phone, no denying that but in the UK it will cost £1000 for the 4g version. In the UK you can buy the Mate 20X and get a Huawei Watch GT for £499.
Stellat battery life, fantastic screen, the Dolby Atmos stereo audio is amazing, HDR display... And fantastic camera for me just keeps me with the Mate 20 X. If course you have the Pen with the Note 10 Plus which is no gimmick.
Also I prefer a flat screen, the curved screen doesn't do it for me... Horses for courses
I answered my own question today, I held the 10 plus and my mate 20x. I was surprised how small the note plus felt at 6.8 compared to 7.2. I had pre-ordered one just in case, but I think I'm going to cancel it. The screen is lovely no question. But I don't want to go backwards in size. I hope a Mate 30x is in the future and the rumors aren't true that they're going to kill the line.
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I'm interested in what the screen size difference is side by side. 6.8 vs 7.2, but the note plus has a larger screen to body ratio. Has anyone held both yet? One in each hand. Interested in how big of a difference the screen size actually is.
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https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-10+,Huawei-Mate-20-X/phones/11190,11027
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https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-10+,Huawei-Mate-20-X/phones/11190,11027
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Yup that's what I saw in person when I compared them. Really no comparison screen wise, now to see if we get lucky and a Mate30x is in our future, I'd love to have wireless charging.
Tested the N10 today in the store, the plus version.
It's SMALL compared to the 20 X, awesome screen, ok speakers but the rest is same as s10.
M20 X FTW
I'm very tempted by the 20 X since it's day one (finally a phablet close to my old Xperia Z Ultra), however I'm not sure whether EMUI would be to my liking. It seems that the MPen isn't really as useful as an S-PEN... Additionally Samsung DeX and Linux on Dex are really good. I guess Easy projection is close to DeX, albeit less polished. But there's nothing like Linux on Dex on Huawei's side.
Still can't decide (of course there is the 500 euro price difference).
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I'm very tempted by the 20 X since it's day one (finally a phablet close to my old Xperia Z Ultra), however I'm not sure whether EMUI would be to my liking. It seems that the MPen isn't really as useful as an S-PEN... Additionally Samsung DeX and Linux on Dex are really good. I guess Easy projection is close to DeX, albeit less polished. But there's nothing like Linux on Dex on Huawei's side.
Still can't decide (of course there is the 500 euro price difference).
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EMUI 10 inspire by OneUI, I think. It optimized for one hand operation plus M20X battery life is the beast so likely I want to keep M20X over jump Note10+. For me Note10+ advantages are smaller footprint ( still big screen ) and SPen. Cons: M20X much better in term off P/P.
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There is no Mate 30x coming due to Mate x (folding phone) and Mate 20x 5g.
Note 10+ is easier to see in sunlight compared to Mate 20x.
Note 10+ has better camera quality (not by much however)
Mate 20x is louder and clearer sound.
Note 10+ pen is simply far superior & incredible.
I still own a Mate 20 x. No intentions of leaving. It is my daily.
My problem with Samsung is that they use punch holes and curved screens. I really don't like/want that.
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My problem with Samsung is that they use punch holes and curved screens. I really don't like/want that.
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i feel your pain lol, am an architect and i hate those very useless curved displays , i have no idea why they do it. the size of that mate 20x is just what the note line should be , i dont know of the screen quality currently on the mate 20x but 2k would be much better for sure and add an spen to it and thats the most perfect phone, and tbh even without the spen i think its the most perfect phone size wise, speakers wise etc
Currently got a note 10 plus, but I’m finding it a bit to big & awkward to hold with one hand.
Can anyone who’s had both give me a brief comparison?.
How do the stereo speakers compare?
Battery life etc?
Thinking of trying either the 7 pro or 7t pro!?
It would be my first oneplus phone.
Cheers guys
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Currently got a note 10 plus, but I’m finding it a bit to big & awkward to hold with one hand.
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So why you replace it with a similar sized phone?
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So why you replace it with a similar sized phone?
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Probably means width. Note 10 plus is a bit wider than the 7 Pro
They are nearly identical. https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/OnePlus-7-Pro,Samsung-Galaxy-Note-10+/phones/11168,11190
Sorry for the late reply. Yes, the width of the note 10 & the more square-ish sides can make it awkward to hold.
The oneplus looks more rounded.
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Sorry for the late reply. Yes, the width of the note 10 & the more square-ish sides can make it awkward to hold.
The oneplus looks more rounded.
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I moved from an s10+ to 7pro. It is a much heavier phone and prolonged one handed use can be quite uncomfortable. You won't be getting the kind of software features you find on a galaxy phone. Mostly D.I.Y., rooted obviously. Speakers are nowhere close to the AKG tuned speakers.
You're basically looking at a work in progress versus a much more refined product.
The Android 10 race is just that. I'm back on pie. Everything works without any surprises.
gibbo82 said:
Currently got a note 10 plus, but I’m finding it a bit to big & awkward to hold with one hand.
Can anyone who’s had both give me a brief comparison?.
How do the stereo speakers compare?
Battery life etc?
Thinking of trying either the 7 pro or 7t pro!?
It would be my first oneplus phone.
Cheers guys
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Only software is better on OnePlus 7 Pro...everything else is better on Note 10+...I have both now...OnePlus 7 Pro looks kind of heavy and also seems smaller because of the gradual curved edges..
The 7 pro weighs a ton. Seriously, in my pocket, my finger the way I hold it hurts after a while. Wait for the s11+ to come out in a month or so, and live with that for 3 years.
I had a 6T prior, almost wish I still had it at times. 7 Pro is Ok..
I’m struggling with this one, as far as I can tell the reason to go 8 rather than 7t pro is 5g and the newer chip and maybe smaller footprint, whereas on the side of the 7t pro is the larger higher res display and arguably nicer design.
I believe the main cameras are the same?
Is there anything else to consider that I have missed?
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Well I came from the 7t regular and I can say that it is a much hardier phone than the 8 regular. I despise curved screens but they aren't really that much of an issue for me as I thought it would be. Display wins on the 7t for that reason.
I upgraded solely for 5g. Let me tell you, TMobile 5g is complete trash. I got 90+Mbps on the 7t on lte yet using 5g I am LUCKY to break 25mbps!
Everything else is about the same.
Stick with the 7t pro until the 8t comes out is my humble opinion here.
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I’m struggling with this one, as far as I can tell the reason to go 8 rather than 7t pro is 5g and the newer chip and maybe smaller footprint, whereas on the side of the 7t pro is the larger higher res display and arguably nicer design.
I believe the main cameras are the same?
Is there anything else to consider that I have missed?
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As @Josh McGrath stated,he pretty much nailed it.
ATM I have both,so,no "grass is greener" bias here.
The OP8 has a less exaggerated curve on the sides.
Whether that's an asset is entirely up to you.
The OnePlus 7 Pro gets a big win with the pop-up camera, maximum display & no hole punch to hide.
The OP8 gets a slight nod for performance & battery life,but,not enough to make that the sole factor,if all other things are equal to you.
The OnePlus 8 also gets the nod for feel in hand, noticeably lighter & narrower grip,IMHO a major plus vs the OnePlus 7 Pro.
The OnePlus 7 Pro still has the older swipe navigation,the back action a swipe up on the left or right bottom vs the OnePlus 8's newer gestures,a side swipe from the side being the back action.
I prefer the OnePlus 7 Pro on this point,but,I added the app Fluid Navigation Gestures to add the side swipe action (no root/ADB required),so,best of both worlds.
As for cameras, I can't say, I'm a point & shoot guy,not very demanding on cameras in general. If cameras are of the utmost importance, either check the ROMs/mods section for camera tweaks,or, possibly consider a Pixel device.
So,if push comes to shove,I'd say it comes down to how much you need 5G.
Toss that aside,& by the narrowest of margins, I'd pick the OnePlus 7 Pro.
If you don't mind the hole punch (hiding it is an option) & need 5G , grab the OnePlus 8.
Honestly,you can't lose with either,5G being the biggest major difference.
If you're on T-Mobile, perhaps split the difference & get the OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren Edition.
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As @Josh McGrath stated,he pretty much nailed it.
ATM I have both,so,no "grass is greener" bias here.
The OP8 has a less exaggerated curve on the sides.
Whether that's an asset is entirely up to you.
The OnePlus 7 Pro gets a big win with the pop-up camera, maximum display & no hole punch to hide.
The OP8 gets a slight nod for performance & battery life,but,not enough to make that the sole factor,if all other things are equal to you.
The OnePlus 8 also gets the nod for feel in hand, noticeably lighter & narrower grip,IMHO a major plus vs the OnePlus 7 Pro.
The OnePlus 7 Pro still has the older swipe navigation,the back action a swipe up on the left or right bottom vs the OnePlus 8's newer gestures,a side swipe from the side being the back action.
I prefer the OnePlus 7 Pro on this point,but,I added the app Fluid Navigation Gestures to add the side swipe action (no root/ADB required),so,best of both worlds.
As for cameras, I can't say, I'm a point & shoot guy,not very demanding on cameras in general. If cameras are of the utmost importance, either check the ROMs/mods section for camera tweaks,or, possibly consider a Pixel device.
So,if push comes to shove,I'd say it comes down to how much you need 5G.
Toss that aside,& by the narrowest of margins, I'd pick the OnePlus 7 Pro.
If you don't mind the hole punch (hiding it is an option) & need 5G , grab the OnePlus 8.
Honestly,you can't lose with either,5G being the biggest major difference.
If you're on T-Mobile, perhaps split the difference & get the OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren Edition.
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Does the 7t Pro really still not have the android 10 gestures? Having worked around this issue on a Samsung before it is an annoyance for sure.
I would buy another 8 Pro but I am convinced that the screen has flaws that software can only try and cover up so am not going there again. It is a shame that they did not put a better main camera in the 8 as I think there are enough other differentiators to justify the pro. Google and Apple are now offering very good main cameras in their budget offerings.
I have a Pixel 4 XL, the phone itself is really quite unremarkable, dull even but that camera when used as a P&S just nails it most of the time, only the iPhone 11 pro comes close IMO. I'd settle for not quite as good as that providing that results are better than the blurry mess Samsungs put out if the subject even thinks about moving slightly.
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Does the 7t Pro really still not have the android 10 gestures? Having worked around this issue on a Samsung before it is an annoyance for sure.
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I take that back on the navigation gestures,there is a choice between the Android 10 gestures & the ones that shipped with the phone on Android 9 (along with the nav buttons,of course).
The OnePlus 8 does not have the choice of the old style navigation gestures,just the Android 10 style & the navigation buttons.
Sorry'bout that, I swear I didn't see that a day ago, perhaps it was included on the update (for the T-Mobile version) that just went live yesterday.
Perhaps others will chime in on the cameras, I'm definitely sitting that one out,above my pay grade & as far as picture quality, I'm not too picky ,as long as it's quick to focus, I'm good.
@Arsenal
I also owned the OP7T Pro 5G McLaren Edition for several months, as recently as late April/early May & it did have the Android 10 gestures, so, nothing to worry about there.
One area worth mentioning again is the feel in hand:
The OnePlus 8 is noticeably lighter,with the OP7 Pro feeling a bit top heavy.
The OnePlus 8 is also narrower in grip.While the difference doesn't look like much on paper, the phones couldn't feel more different, big advantage to the OnePlus 8.
Just want to iterate, if 5G is not all that important, the nod,by the narrowest of all margins, goes to the OP7 Pro/7T Pro vs the OnePlus 8.
I wonder how good GCAM is on the 7t pro or 8?
It has been a long while since I have used GCAM on a SD enabled device but the last time I did the results were impressive
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I wonder how good GCAM is on the 7t pro or 8?
It has been a long while since I have used GCAM on a SD enabled device but the last time I did the results were impressive
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GCAM is always better than the default camera.
John Lewis had a cracking deal on the 7 pro so I got one.
Having recently had the 8 pro what jumps out is maybe this is the first year that last years phone does not look and feel inferior or dated vs the this years. Not just Oneplus too, arguably the S10 and P30 pro are no real step down either.
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The reason is that despite the price drop the OnePlus 7T and 7T PRO it still is not worth it when compared to the 8.
If you have the OnePlus 7 there is no reason to be in the market to buy a new smartphone. If you buy smartphones every year then you are part of the tech enthusiast minority and my reply is not for you
The reason why the OnePlus 8 makes more sense for most people is:
- OS Updates. The OnePlus 7 is older and will reach its end of support sooner than the OnePlus 8.
- Battery life. No other factor limits your device lifespan than battery life. The OnePlus 8 has a larger battery resulting in higher SOT according to most tests.
- Performance. Both the OnePlus 8 and 8 PRO surpass last year models benchmarks.
- Price. At $700 the OnePlus 8 is not cheap. But if you are on the market to buy a new phone, then you do your homework and search for the best deals. The OnePlus 8 can be found for $550-$600 if you search for deals.
If you still think the OnePlus 8 at $600 is too expensive, then why consider the $500 OnePlus 7? That´s expensive as well. If for instance price is more important for you then OxygenOS and fast OS upgrades, then go for the POCO F2 PRO. It´s pretty close to the OnePlus 8 specs at a OnePlus 7 price.
If you don't care about future proof performance, battery life and other aspects and just want a cheaper device that gets the latest updates, go for the Pixel.
Now if you want a well balanced device, that will get the latest updates just a bit latter then Google releases them to the Pixel but also offers better specs in terms of performance, battery and screen, than the OnePlus 8 is a good choice.