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[Q] Getting a note 10.1 this week, need some guidance please...

Hi
Can I ask what apps is everyone using for drawing?, I hear layerpaint and sketchbook pro but is there any others and what is the consensus regarding drawing with them. Can I expect intuos4 type drawing with the 10.1 or should I level down my expectations?.
Another question is what resolution do these apps work on?, could I create a new document or import a 300dpi for inking and colouring?.
Is there any decent vector apps too guys?, the ipad has loads but for the love of god the only thing stopping me selling it is the music apps and games my sis plays.
Thank you

I find that for a portable electronic sketchpad the Note 10 is pretty excellent. I don't think that it stacks up fully against an intuous and a desktop running premium production software, but it isn't a toy either. The digitizer is responsive, you have adjustable pen sensitivity, some pretty decent nibs to give the pen a comfortable feel on the screen, a small selection of pens, and the software has enough power for a lot of tasks.
Sketchbook Pro was previously based on screen resolution, but they've added selectable canvas sizes now (the maximum being 2560x1600). Unfortunately that's not an amazing resolution but it's enough for things that aren't poster sized I find. Hopefully there will be larger canvas sizes in the future.
I'd personally recommend looking at an extra pen for drawing. The default pen that comes with the device isn't horrific, but it's designed around fitting in the tablet. It's nice to have it there in a pinch, but a more robust pen is nice. I've got the Samsung 8PI (s pen /w eraser), and it's pretty lovely for a $25 pen online. Wacom is coming out with a line of pens called Bamboo Feel that are Note 10 compatible and look very nice too.

[Q] Surface Pro?

First off let me start by saying that I just picked up the Note 10.1 and I love it. However with the Surface Pro right around the corner I am wondering if I should return my Note and wait for the Surface? I realize the the Surface will be a little more money and for the purpose of this thread I would like to leave the price out of it. I would like to focus this discussion on taking notes and comparing the two for that and that ONLY. My primary use is for taking notes by hand with the stylus. Does anyone know if the pen on the Surface Pro will be better then the Note? Is the lag any better? Any other thoughts? Will taking notes using S-Note be better then with OneNote? Again, focusing on note taking with the pen please...

The surface pro has a pen? O__O
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Yes the Surface Pro has a pen input and comes with a pen according to the specification page on Microsoft homepage. I wasn't sure so I looked it up.

what lag?

http://product.metamoji.com/en/anytime/
With this app, it should be perfect but I cannot confirm as I don't have a Windows tab or this software:

Surface pro isn't as portable as the note, it is very thick and large and will cost nearly more than twice the note, for sure windows 8 with android emulators is the best of both worlds (I have an android app emulator on my w8 laptop ) but is case of portability price and functionality I consider the note to be best for it, get surface pro as a laptop replacement not tab replacement, and personally I will go for samsungs ativ smart pro tab it is better in specs, screen and it is samsung
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hoss_n2 said:
Surface pro isn't as portable as the note, it is very thick and large and will cost nearly more than twice the note, for sure windows 8 with android emulators is the best of both worlds (I have an android app emulator on my w8 laptop ) but is case of portability price and functionality I consider the note to be best for it, get surface pro as a laptop replacement not tab replacement, and personally I will go for samsungs ativ smart pro tab it is better in specs, screen and it is samsung
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I agree. The touch cover keyboard is quite painful to type on, too. The type cover one is better, but adds too much bulk.
Note 10.1 is still the best.

Op perhaps you should consider a note 2 and a Surface pro? Best of both worlds.
Personally, I'm not impressed with the supposed battery life of the pro. Early suggestions give it around 4-5 hours, though early reports suggest around 2 - 3 IF you are using it for anything other then surfing. Even at 4 - 5 hours I am out. I used to love my x61 with its 5 hour battery life, now though it does my head in after using the note where I get an average 9 hours battery life.

Thanks for all the great replies and constructive ideas. That is always refreshing to see here. Someone suggested getting the note 2 phone and the surface pro. I actually already have the note 2 and its an awesome device IMO. The lag btw that I was referring to is just the delay behind faster strokes which isn't really an issue except to the anal. The size is a concern of the pro, I guess I will just have to hold it and see. I didn't know how the pen on the note works compared to the pro. Are they both using the same digitizer dpi technology? Also I have heard the full version of Onenote is pretty much the holy grail of note taking apps. Hopefully the pro comes out before my note return policy expires.
On anoter note , are there any screen protectors out there I wonder to specifically give the tablet more of a "paper" feel?
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igl007 said:
Thanks for all the great replies and constructive ideas. That is always refreshing to see here. Someone suggested getting the note 2 phone and the surface pro. I actually already have the note 2 and its an awesome device IMO. The lag btw that I was referring to is just the delay behind faster strokes which isn't really an issue except to the anal. The size is a concern of the pro, I guess I will just have to hold it and see. I didn't know how the pen on the note works compared to the pro. Are they both using the same digitizer dpi technology? Also I have heard the full version of Onenote is pretty much the holy grail of note taking apps. Hopefully the pro comes out before my note return policy expires.
On anoter note , are there any screen protectors out there I wonder to specifically give the tablet more of a "paper" feel?
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Try antiglare screen protector it has rough finish like a paper
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I'm not terribly familiar with the Surface Pro, and I'm not too keen on Windows 8.
I do, however, have a Note 10.1, and a convertible tablet laptop, ca. 2008. It came with Windows Vista preinstalled, and I installed Microsoft Onenote.
I can say that, hands down, Onenote is the greatest note-taking application ever. Samsung's S-Note is a like a preschool toy compared to Onenote. I hope S-Note will be improved, but I doubt it will ever be as good as Onenote.
That said, S-Note is... satisfactory.

You are comparing a 450$ tablet with a probably 1000$ dollars PC. If you have the money(you obviously do) and don't mind the increased weight, there is no reason not to get the Surface Pro. You'll have a superior experience in every way.

If you're going get a Windows 8 Pro tablet, check out the Kupa
http://www.kupaworld.com/Products.html
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/10/kupa-ultranote-windows-8-modular-tablet-hands-on-video/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_V_LK85LKE
Better Specs than Surface Pro

I have been running a Samsung Slate with W8 a while now.
Office 2013 with OneNote is superior to SNote and anything in the Android space at the moment.
The biggest drawback is still the power hungry Intel chipset, still even with the latest iterations.
For me for a tablet to be viable it has to have at least 6-8+ hours of battery life in normal operation (inking in OneNote, with good enough backlight on the screen). This is something Intel has not been able to deliver (if one do not con't the Atom, as that has to few horse power to run W8 in my opinion).
So I use the Note for meeting and light inking stuff, and OneNote for all the heavy inking lifting.
Just my 2 cent.

Ok, first things first. Do you want a Surface Pro or a Win8 Tablet? There will be a LOT of Win8 tablets with pens out (in fact, there are a few out now) in a variety of sizes and weights.
There are a few common things though.
ALL Pro tablets are running some kind of x86 processor (Atom, Sandy Bridge, i3, i5...) and ALL of these eat more current because they're more powerful CPUs. That means shorter battery life for the same battery size. They also tend to have higher resolution screens since the best resolution for Win8 is 1366x768, but most Android tablets are 1280x800, so it's not that big a difference and some have 1920x1080 or higher.
Unlike WinRT, you get full access to the desktop and can run all Win7 and Win8 apps.
In terms of price, it's kind of all over the place - the Asus Vivo is $500, for example. My Samsung Slate 7 is a hardware reference platform for Win8 and it's $1000-$1350 depending on the config.
http://www.tgdaily.com/mobility-features/68046-500-asus-vivotab-smart-goes-up-for-pre-order
In fact, the Asus Vivo might be a good one to consider:
http://www.asus.com/Tablet/VivoTab/ASUS_VivoTab/
So to flip the question - why a Note 10? Well, for me, it's convenience and compactness. I use the Slate 7 for heavy lifting or complex graphics where I want to use full Photoshop or Painter. But carrying the Slate around is annoying. You need to have a keyboard and a mouse for programming on it. So I have a Golla bag with all of that in it and you're never sure the battery will be charged when you need it. I tend to see the Slate as a VERY portable i5 desktop system - I tend to see the Note as an electronic notebook on steroids. The battery lasts days, I can take notes, draw, watch videos etc.. and it's very seamless. I carry the Note with me everywhere... I don't carry the Slate everywhere.
They're BOTH good, useful devices, but the use patterns are different.

TheWerewolf said:
best resolution for Win8 is 1366x768
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VERY MUCH OUTDATED Statement
Acer W700
Kupa
Sony Vaio Duo 11
Samsung ATIV Smart PC Pro 700T
ALL 1080P
1920X1080

Now that it is out, has anyone tried the stylus? Please stick to thread topic which is comparing note taking ONLY.

S Pen vs Jot Pro

I am just curious about those who have used the Jot Pro stylus on a true HD tablet vs the S Pen on the GN 10.1. How is the responsiveness by comparison?
My guess would be that using a stylus on an HD tablet with a non Intel cpu would cause lag, but I'm just guessing. The ONLY thing I don't like about the Note 10.1 is the relatively weak resolution and I'm wondering if I could take notes just as well on a true HD Tablet with the Jot Pro?
Thanks.
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This is off-topic but hopefully relevant and useful to you. I do not usually use my S-Pen on my Note II for note taking but the few times I have, I have used SketchBookMobile. It allows me to zoom in really close, zoom out, attach photographs (or change their opacity and use as the background. Very handy), use text, transform, resize and use layers. I have not found anything else that beats it.
Something else I do is to take notes with pen and paper and then photograph the result and send it to Dropbox. Always available
If you are looking to upgrade in the near future Wacom are said to be producing a tablet and pen combo for launch this year. It will probably be for professional artist and photographers and cost a small fortune but if money is no object it could be what you need.

I haven't used the jot pro on a 1080p tablet but had it for my transformer prime and it's horrible compared to the note 10.1. I think the main thing is capacitive touchscreen vs a digitizer.
It's been about 9 months but from what I can remember there was slightly more lag using the jot with the prime then using the spen on note.
No idea if an Intel chip would help.
For what it's worth I take great notes using lecture notes in landscape mode. Printed notes come out perfect just like the were handwritten.

jot pro
This is the best capacitive stylus available, but this means it only sucks a it less then the others. It's no comparison to the s pen. Im going to get a s pen full size soon .I love my wacom intros and wish the s pen was of that quality.

Thanks for the responses guys
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Nefariouss said:
I haven't used the jot pro on a 1080p tablet but had it for my transformer prime and it's horrible compared to the note 10.1. I think the main thing is capacitive touchscreen vs a digitizer.
It's been about 9 months but from what I can remember there was slightly more lag using the jot with the prime then using the spen on note.
No idea if an Intel chip would help.
For what it's worth I take great notes using lecture notes in landscape mode. Printed notes come out perfect just like the were handwritten.
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The thing I don't like about Lecture notes is that my pen seems to lag a bit. Also miss the overall integration with the rest of the Note 10.1 ecosystem.
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mitchellvii said:
The thing I don't like about Lecture notes is that my pen seems to lag a bit. Also miss the overall integration with the rest of the Note 10.1 ecosystem.
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I thought you got rid of your note because the resolution was subpar?

Nefariouss said:
I thought you got rid of your note because the resolution was subpar?
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I did but bought another one because I really needed the note taking ability for work. Decided the Note 8 was just going to be too small.
And yes, I'm fickle but I can afford to be

Lol was just curious. I love the note 10.1 for taking notes. The screen resolution doesn't bother me. I think Samsung could have done a lot better job of designing S-Note, as is I feel it's not as good as lecture notes. I use dropsync to keep it synced with Dropbox.
Was just curious when I saw you back over here.

Nefariouss said:
Lol was just curious. I love the note 10.1 for taking notes. The screen resolution doesn't bother me. I think Samsung could have done a lot better job of designing S-Note, as is I feel it's not as good as lecture notes. I use dropsync to keep it synced with Dropbox.
Was just curious when I saw you back over here.
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Yeah I was pretty pumped for the Note 8 but then it was taking so long to release and I realized I really wanted a bigger tablet. Also my last one was gray. Always wanted white. I like it better.
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NON-Samsung Android device with Spen

I love the Spen feature of Note series from Samsung. But I just dont like the Samsung flavour of Android. I have a Motorola RAZR XT910 & Nexus 7. I love the original Android and the moto version. I have used S4 mini for 4 months and I hated it. But I love to scribble things and still carry around a pocket pad & pen even though I have a smart phone. Scribbling with your finger its not that easy especially on a 5 inch screen.
So, is there any NON-Samsung Android device with Spen like device. I love the spen due to its compact size and thin tip. Its gives the feel of writing on a pocket pad with pen.
I am surprised that nexus 6 did not feature a s-pen like device. Why is no other company making a true Note 4 alternative?? Did Samsung patent spen like technology???

Note 5 S-Pen compatible with Note 4?

Hey all. Have anybody experiences with the Note 5 Spen on the Note 4?
Thx

I don't think so. Besides even if it did work where are you gonna put it? I don't believe it'll fit inside the holder.

This isn't an answer to the question in the OP, but a personal observation that may help (?).
I have both the Note 4 (obviously) and a Note 10.1 2014 edition tablet. The tablet is older than the Note 4, and it's s pen works on my Note 4. However, the Note 4's s pen won't work at all on my tablet. I can't tap, scroll, or even use the button.
So my assumption is that older s pens can work on newer devices (+/- accuracy or something), but newer s pens won't work on older devices.
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This isn't an answer to the question in the OP, but a personal observation that may help (?).
I have both the Note 4 (obviously) and a Note 10.1 2014 edition tablet. The tablet is older than the Note 4, and it's s pen works on my Note 4. However, the Note 4's s pen won't work at all on my tablet. I can't tap, scroll, or even use the button.
So my assumption is that older s pens can work on newer devices (+/- accuracy or something), but newer s pens won't work on older devices.
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That's a pretty good observation +1
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I have both too. The Note 4 and 2014 edition and I can use both fully. the only difference is that the s-pen from the 2014 edition is a little bit longer

I've bought one from America and hope to get it soon and will give you a feedback than

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I have both too. The Note 4 and 2014 edition and I can use both fully. the only difference is that the s-pen from the 2014 edition is a little bit longer
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Do you mean that you can use the Note 4's pen on the tablet too? Because mine doesn't work at all.
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Jep 100% actually I have the stock 5.1.1 on my tablet and it works perfectly

The tablet s-pen on the Note 4 and otherwise

I've bought this one and hope it works and I can put in the the Note 4 too

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Jep 100% actually I have the stock 5.1.1 on my tablet and it works perfectly
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Well, I don't want to derail this thread, but it's odd that my Note 4 s pen doesn't work on my tablet running stock 4.4.2 (There's no update for the p600 model).
Edit.
Looks like if you have "Disable Pen Detection" unchecked on your table's settings, then the Note 4's S pen works. I've always kept this option checked, which makes the N4 S pen not work.
So I change my initial asdumption. Any S pen should work as long as you uncheck "Turn Off Pen Detection" on your phone's settings.
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The touch part and button work, but I don't think it'll fit properly in the note 4. I didn't cram the s pen in the slot and stopped as soon as I felt resistance. It's not really locked in place and can fall out easily. Maybe you are braver than I and try to push it in deeper. Also, the phone didn't recognize the note 5 pen being inserted.

I hope it will it looks awesome and I think it feels awesome, too. I hope so ^^

it don't looks like to so much differences.. I think the biggest difference are at the touch part or the beginning. the length is the same.

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What does not fit is made to fit

I will make some pictures when it does arrive and show you the results

They don't have the same body shape. They are both rectangular with rounded corners, but the note 5's pen is more rounded and I think a little slimmer. It is looser in the Note 4 slot. The Note 4's pen doesn't even go in the Note 5 at all. I guess you can maybe add some tape to thicken it up and should stay in by friction. I just don't know how to get the Note 5 pen to be recognized in the Note 4 pen slot.

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I will make some pictures when it does arrive and show you the results
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Hi, did you recieved the Note 5 pen and tried to put it in Note 4? Does it fit and does it work?
Thanks