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Can I ask what apps is everyone using for drawing?, I hear layerpaint and sketchbook pro but is there any others and what is the consensus regarding drawing with them. Can I expect intuos4 type drawing with the 10.1 or should I level down my expectations?.
Another question is what resolution do these apps work on?, could I create a new document or import a 300dpi for inking and colouring?.
Is there any decent vector apps too guys?, the ipad has loads but for the love of god the only thing stopping me selling it is the music apps and games my sis plays.
Thank you
I find that for a portable electronic sketchpad the Note 10 is pretty excellent. I don't think that it stacks up fully against an intuous and a desktop running premium production software, but it isn't a toy either. The digitizer is responsive, you have adjustable pen sensitivity, some pretty decent nibs to give the pen a comfortable feel on the screen, a small selection of pens, and the software has enough power for a lot of tasks.
Sketchbook Pro was previously based on screen resolution, but they've added selectable canvas sizes now (the maximum being 2560x1600). Unfortunately that's not an amazing resolution but it's enough for things that aren't poster sized I find. Hopefully there will be larger canvas sizes in the future.
I'd personally recommend looking at an extra pen for drawing. The default pen that comes with the device isn't horrific, but it's designed around fitting in the tablet. It's nice to have it there in a pinch, but a more robust pen is nice. I've got the Samsung 8PI (s pen /w eraser), and it's pretty lovely for a $25 pen online. Wacom is coming out with a line of pens called Bamboo Feel that are Note 10 compatible and look very nice too.
First off let me start by saying that I just picked up the Note 10.1 and I love it. However with the Surface Pro right around the corner I am wondering if I should return my Note and wait for the Surface? I realize the the Surface will be a little more money and for the purpose of this thread I would like to leave the price out of it. I would like to focus this discussion on taking notes and comparing the two for that and that ONLY. My primary use is for taking notes by hand with the stylus. Does anyone know if the pen on the Surface Pro will be better then the Note? Is the lag any better? Any other thoughts? Will taking notes using S-Note be better then with OneNote? Again, focusing on note taking with the pen please...
The surface pro has a pen? O__O
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Yes the Surface Pro has a pen input and comes with a pen according to the specification page on Microsoft homepage. I wasn't sure so I looked it up.
what lag?
http://product.metamoji.com/en/anytime/
With this app, it should be perfect but I cannot confirm as I don't have a Windows tab or this software:
Surface pro isn't as portable as the note, it is very thick and large and will cost nearly more than twice the note, for sure windows 8 with android emulators is the best of both worlds (I have an android app emulator on my w8 laptop ) but is case of portability price and functionality I consider the note to be best for it, get surface pro as a laptop replacement not tab replacement, and personally I will go for samsungs ativ smart pro tab it is better in specs, screen and it is samsung
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Surface pro isn't as portable as the note, it is very thick and large and will cost nearly more than twice the note, for sure windows 8 with android emulators is the best of both worlds (I have an android app emulator on my w8 laptop ) but is case of portability price and functionality I consider the note to be best for it, get surface pro as a laptop replacement not tab replacement, and personally I will go for samsungs ativ smart pro tab it is better in specs, screen and it is samsung
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I agree. The touch cover keyboard is quite painful to type on, too. The type cover one is better, but adds too much bulk.
Note 10.1 is still the best.
Op perhaps you should consider a note 2 and a Surface pro? Best of both worlds.
Personally, I'm not impressed with the supposed battery life of the pro. Early suggestions give it around 4-5 hours, though early reports suggest around 2 - 3 IF you are using it for anything other then surfing. Even at 4 - 5 hours I am out. I used to love my x61 with its 5 hour battery life, now though it does my head in after using the note where I get an average 9 hours battery life.
Thanks for all the great replies and constructive ideas. That is always refreshing to see here. Someone suggested getting the note 2 phone and the surface pro. I actually already have the note 2 and its an awesome device IMO. The lag btw that I was referring to is just the delay behind faster strokes which isn't really an issue except to the anal. The size is a concern of the pro, I guess I will just have to hold it and see. I didn't know how the pen on the note works compared to the pro. Are they both using the same digitizer dpi technology? Also I have heard the full version of Onenote is pretty much the holy grail of note taking apps. Hopefully the pro comes out before my note return policy expires.
On anoter note , are there any screen protectors out there I wonder to specifically give the tablet more of a "paper" feel?
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Thanks for all the great replies and constructive ideas. That is always refreshing to see here. Someone suggested getting the note 2 phone and the surface pro. I actually already have the note 2 and its an awesome device IMO. The lag btw that I was referring to is just the delay behind faster strokes which isn't really an issue except to the anal. The size is a concern of the pro, I guess I will just have to hold it and see. I didn't know how the pen on the note works compared to the pro. Are they both using the same digitizer dpi technology? Also I have heard the full version of Onenote is pretty much the holy grail of note taking apps. Hopefully the pro comes out before my note return policy expires.
On anoter note , are there any screen protectors out there I wonder to specifically give the tablet more of a "paper" feel?
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Try antiglare screen protector it has rough finish like a paper
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I'm not terribly familiar with the Surface Pro, and I'm not too keen on Windows 8.
I do, however, have a Note 10.1, and a convertible tablet laptop, ca. 2008. It came with Windows Vista preinstalled, and I installed Microsoft Onenote.
I can say that, hands down, Onenote is the greatest note-taking application ever. Samsung's S-Note is a like a preschool toy compared to Onenote. I hope S-Note will be improved, but I doubt it will ever be as good as Onenote.
That said, S-Note is... satisfactory.
You are comparing a 450$ tablet with a probably 1000$ dollars PC. If you have the money(you obviously do) and don't mind the increased weight, there is no reason not to get the Surface Pro. You'll have a superior experience in every way.
If you're going get a Windows 8 Pro tablet, check out the Kupa
http://www.kupaworld.com/Products.html
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/10/kupa-ultranote-windows-8-modular-tablet-hands-on-video/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_V_LK85LKE
Better Specs than Surface Pro
I have been running a Samsung Slate with W8 a while now.
Office 2013 with OneNote is superior to SNote and anything in the Android space at the moment.
The biggest drawback is still the power hungry Intel chipset, still even with the latest iterations.
For me for a tablet to be viable it has to have at least 6-8+ hours of battery life in normal operation (inking in OneNote, with good enough backlight on the screen). This is something Intel has not been able to deliver (if one do not con't the Atom, as that has to few horse power to run W8 in my opinion).
So I use the Note for meeting and light inking stuff, and OneNote for all the heavy inking lifting.
Just my 2 cent.
Ok, first things first. Do you want a Surface Pro or a Win8 Tablet? There will be a LOT of Win8 tablets with pens out (in fact, there are a few out now) in a variety of sizes and weights.
There are a few common things though.
ALL Pro tablets are running some kind of x86 processor (Atom, Sandy Bridge, i3, i5...) and ALL of these eat more current because they're more powerful CPUs. That means shorter battery life for the same battery size. They also tend to have higher resolution screens since the best resolution for Win8 is 1366x768, but most Android tablets are 1280x800, so it's not that big a difference and some have 1920x1080 or higher.
Unlike WinRT, you get full access to the desktop and can run all Win7 and Win8 apps.
In terms of price, it's kind of all over the place - the Asus Vivo is $500, for example. My Samsung Slate 7 is a hardware reference platform for Win8 and it's $1000-$1350 depending on the config.
http://www.tgdaily.com/mobility-features/68046-500-asus-vivotab-smart-goes-up-for-pre-order
In fact, the Asus Vivo might be a good one to consider:
http://www.asus.com/Tablet/VivoTab/ASUS_VivoTab/
So to flip the question - why a Note 10? Well, for me, it's convenience and compactness. I use the Slate 7 for heavy lifting or complex graphics where I want to use full Photoshop or Painter. But carrying the Slate around is annoying. You need to have a keyboard and a mouse for programming on it. So I have a Golla bag with all of that in it and you're never sure the battery will be charged when you need it. I tend to see the Slate as a VERY portable i5 desktop system - I tend to see the Note as an electronic notebook on steroids. The battery lasts days, I can take notes, draw, watch videos etc.. and it's very seamless. I carry the Note with me everywhere... I don't carry the Slate everywhere.
They're BOTH good, useful devices, but the use patterns are different.
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best resolution for Win8 is 1366x768
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VERY MUCH OUTDATED Statement
Acer W700
Kupa
Sony Vaio Duo 11
Samsung ATIV Smart PC Pro 700T
ALL 1080P
1920X1080
Now that it is out, has anyone tried the stylus? Please stick to thread topic which is comparing note taking ONLY.
Hi, just got the Tab 8 yesterday, while I was at bestbuy decideing which tablet to get, I compared all the tablets on display, and I have to say this is the best feeling tablet from all. Dont care about aluminum or some other crap. Samsung made the coating and the design beautiful. I think im becoming a samsung fanatic. Dont care about specs at this point the screen resolution its lower then Nexus 7 2013, but it is much better display with its color and brightness.
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I have and really like my Tab 3 8". I wanted something portable and easy to hold. The 7" screens were just a tad too small for my eyes. This tablet meets all my needs.
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Why don't buy galaxy note 8, it is the same size and had an extra S-pen
I to love this tablet. It just feels right in my hands. I could have gotten the note 8 but have no use for the s pen. The resolution is lower than most tablets but it still wows me. I enjoy watching movies on it more than the full size ipad.
Just wish they would start carrying cases in stores and a root come out.
I got the 7 and I must say I like it allot. I upgraded from a kindle fire 2 just by chance when getting my new phone. I got it for 99 dollars and managed to get 2 S3's for free with a mobile hotspot for the wife.
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Lol spoke to soon just rooted my tab 3 8.0. Anyone know if there are any roms out?
Nothing yet, but I know there there a few people already working on some.........
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Why don't buy galaxy note 8, it is the same size and had an extra S-pen
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Almost the same. But for a person looking for a quick media player, games, and browsing, tab 3 8.0 is a good deal. Both have same screen size. Only difference is the ram, processor and the pen. Also, the tab 3 is a big slimmer.
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I to love this tablet. It just feels right in my hands. I could have gotten the note 8 but have no use for the s pen. The resolution is lower than most tablets but it still wows me. I enjoy watching movies on it more than the full size ipad.
Just wish they would start carrying cases in stores and a root come out.
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just brought the tab 3 8.0 and purchased a carry case / bluetooth keyboard on ebay hope that helps
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My current tablet is the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7 Plus and got the "bug" to get a bigger and/or different tablet. I wish I would have just started with the Tab 3 8.0! On Monday, I got the Nook HD+ at Walmart. Meh... I liked the bigger screen but some of the apps that I use often weren't available for it via Google Play. I returned this on Tuesday morning. Over lunch on Tuesday, I went to a different Walmart and bought the newest Nexus 7. It just didn't trip my trigger AND the setup menu seemed to be missing things that I am used to on my 7+. I returned the Nexus 7 this morning and bought the Tab 3 8.0. Love it!
Walmart has a 15 day return policy on most electronics AND their accidental damage warranties are fairly in expensive. It covers cracked screens, etc. For the Nook HD+ it was only $15 and for the other two tablets it was $28 for TWO years. That's cheaper than Square Trade and a good coupon. (I only get accidental damage warranties on electronic things that could break easily - and I've used them a few times too from Square Trade... like my netbook and two Kindles.)
Anyhow, momma's happy.
Yep, the tab 8 feels better than the note 8 in the hands, and I don't need the silly s pen.
But the tab 3 8 is slower than the note. Has anyone spent spent time with each to figure out whether the performance difference is noticible for simple tasks like web browsing and reading forums?
Most important to me is smooth scrolling and non-ridiculous page loading. The note 8 is pretty decent (other than its occasional input freezes which I understand affect both).
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Yep, the tab 8 feels better than the note 8 in the hands, and I don't need the silly s pen.
But the tab 3 8 is slower than the note. Has anyone spent spent time with each to figure out whether the performance difference is noticible for simple tasks like web browsing and reading forums?
Most important to me is smooth scrolling and non-ridiculous page loading. The note 8 is pretty decent (other than its occasional input freezes which I understand affect both).
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Hi.
I was playing quite a bit with the Tab 3 0.8 in a store today, comparing it side by side with its more powerful and older ' cousin' the Note 8. I was mainly focusing on how both tablets performed when large pdf files stored on an exterior card were being loaded and manipulated with in the preinstalled pdf app.
In the process I noticed the occasional lag , sometimes rather long, on the part of the Tab when trying to auto rotate whatever pdf text was just being displayed. With an exterior card and large pdf files to load, Iunderstand, this could have been foreseen, given the less powerful processor and less RAM as compared to its 'cousin'.
What puzzled me, however, was that when I'd exit the pdf app and started playing with some other apps on the Tab 3, like the web browser, the photo app etc., I experienced the same auto rotation issues when sometimes an app would't effectively switch into the other mode at all!!
Now since I haven't noticed anyone complaining about this 'issue ' (if it is an issue) in the reviews' and comments' threads, I wonder if I happened to be playing with faulty device or my hands were to blame ? I don't really know.
Ivan
I have had the note 8, the new nexus 7, and now the tab 3 8". To tell you the truth, I can't tell any difference in speed between the 3 tablets. If I still had all 3 tablets, and put them side by side then I might could see a small difference, but nothing major. I have had my tab 3 8" for 3 days now and I haven't noticed any slowness, freeze ups, or funky touchscreen issues like on the nexus 7 (2013). The nexus 7 has an awesome screen, but I couldn't type anything without having any ghost touches, and if I would lay it on the table then it would not register my touches at all. Bottom line is, the galaxy tab 3 8" is a very nice tablet. I would definitely recommend it.
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I have had the note 8, the new nexus 7, and now the tab 3 8". To tell you the truth, I can't tell any difference in speed between the 3 tablets. If I still had all 3 tablets, and put them side by side then I might could see a small difference, but nothing major. I have had my tab 3 8" for 3 days now and I haven't noticed any slowness, freeze ups, or funky touchscreen issues like on the nexus 7 (2013). The nexus 7 has an awesome screen, but I couldn't type anything without having any ghost touches, and if I would lay it on the table then it would not register my touches at all. Bottom line is, the galaxy tab 3 8" is a very nice tablet. I would definitely recommend it.
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I spent some time playing with both the Tab 3 8 and Note 8 side by side in best buy. At first my conclusion was that they were essentially the same speed. I could barely notice much difference when doing basic stuff, even when doing it in parallel. Given that I don't use the s-pen very often, I was very tempted go for the lower priced, lighter, and narrower Tab 3 8.
I did notice that the scrolling on the Tab 3 was maybe a little less smooth than the Note, but I wasn't sure if maybe I was just imagining it.
But then I loaded a very long web page on both; the Tab 3 got bogged down and the Note didn't. I was able to scroll smoothly on the Note where the Tab 3 was choking -- jerky scrolling and image loading was taking forever. I was hoping they were essentially identical performance wise for basic stuff, but I think the Note might indeed pull far ahead during more difficult tasks.
But does this really matter? How often will I load massive web pages? I really like the feel of the Tab 3 better. I'm going to go back and try again just to confirm. If for normal tasks the Tab is basically the same, I'd rather have the narrower form factor and the $100 in my pocket.
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But does this really matter? How often will I load massive web pages? I really like the feel of the Tab 3 better. I'm going to go back and try again just to confirm. If for normal tasks the Tab is basically the same, I'd rather have the narrower form factor and the $100 in my pocket.
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I am the guy who always has to have the newest and fastest phone and tablet out there. I know the note 8 should out perform the tab 3 8" because of the 4 core vs 2 core but I think you would be happy with the tab 3. I was worried about this tablet being slow but it turns out that there has been no noticeable lag in the 3 days that I've had it. When I was at Best Buy I played with both tablets just to make sure that I liked the tab 3, and I actually noticed more lag on the note 8. like I said before, the tab 3 8" seems to be a really nice tablet that is plenty fast. You could buy the tab 3 and try it for a few days and then take it back if you find that it lags. I think that you would be happy with this tablet.
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Thanks all for review, i tested it in first day display in Samsung store, i hardly tell speed different with Note 8..
-IMO when play some heavy game i think Note 8 will be best choice, Note 8 it has better spec. but i still love design of Tab 8 slim and beautiful.
-I'm now chose between Tab 8, Note 8 And New Nexus 7. I own Nexus 7 but it's look so buggy. <<< this very hard choice, New Nexus 7 better spec but ugly design, Note 8 good spec just little more expensive than Tab 8 but design is little buggy. Tab 8 design is best from samsung..
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A few more things I've noticed after using both side by side.
Speed: they're essentially the same until you do something where extra cores help (shocker!) The main scenario where I saw this happen was if you try to scroll or zoom while a page is still loading. The cores are busy loading stuff so the scroll / zoom is much choppier on the tab 3 8 than the note 8. But outside of that they're basically the same. My conclusion was that the tab was fine for me.
Comfort. The tab feels much smaller and is easier to hold one handed. The wide bezels on the note make it feel bulky. This prompted me to go buy the tab.
Typing. Upon opening it up and starting to use it, the first thing that stood out is that I type much worse on the tab! The wider note bezels actually put your hands in a better typing position, particularly when you're holding it vertically, which you don't do in the store.
I'm going to spend a few more days with the tab 3 and see if the typing grows on me... if not I'll be testing out whether my local office depot gives refunds for open tablets. Gulp.
I had many problems with this tab in the beginning. Slow response and typing. But now, everything is all good. Sure, I can use the speed and resolution of the nexus 7, buy that extra inch of screen and multi Window seal the deal!
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yatbond said:
I had many problems with this tab in the beginning. Slow response and typing. But now, everything is all good.
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How did you do that ?
Happy with mine
Pros:
Like the size
Like the Price (Compared to Note)
Like that it is "rootable"
Cons:
bloatware
No UMS (USB Mass Storage) in stock kernal
Only Dual core Exynos 4212 (compared to Notes Exynos 4421)
Hey do any of you have a Surface Pro? Can you test out the stylus from your Surface Pro with the Samsung Galaxy Note 4? I read in the YouTube comments that it works for Samsung Galaxy Note 2 and even the eraser function on this 2003 Cintiq stylus works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFlAqR0SWyk
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Hey do any of you have a Surface Pro? Can you test out the stylus from your Surface Pro with the Samsung Galaxy Note 4? I read in the YouTube comments that it works for Samsung Galaxy Note 2 and even the eraser function on this 2003 Cintiq stylus works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFlAqR0SWyk
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l did not know that.
as far as the surface, it looks awesome but nobody is buying it. I honestly do not know a single person that has one.
Surface pro 2 pens work as they use wacom feel tech, sp3 pens will NOT work.
8thos said:
Hey do any of you have a Surface Pro? Can you test out the stylus from your Surface Pro with the Samsung Galaxy Note 4? I read in the YouTube comments that it works for Samsung Galaxy Note 2 and even the eraser function on this 2003 Cintiq stylus works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFlAqR0SWyk
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I have Surface Pro v1 and note 4 , both pens work inter-operate just fine i would like pen like Surface Pro in Note for its size
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l did not know that.
as far as the surface, it looks awesome but nobody is buying it. I honestly do not know a single person that has one.
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Man, completely different experience here. I know 8 people that have surface 3 pro, and 3-4 that have surface 1 pro.
Basically everyone I know that is into 'thin' laptops, and not a Mac user, has a surface pro 3.
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Pro 2 pen works, but definitely feels like plastic gliding on glass vs the S-Pen or Pro 3 pen feeling a bit more realistic. The eraser function works as far as actually erasing bits of a stroke and not an entire stroke. The button brings up air command. But the capacitive buttons do not work. The pen is also not calibrated properly because the "dot" appears slightly to the right of the pen tip (for righties) or to the left (for lefties).
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l did not know that.
as far as the surface, it looks awesome but nobody is buying it. I honestly do not know a single person that has one.
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We have bought 15...great systems. now that you know me you can change your statement and forget about media and marketing wars. I am using the pen right now. It's very bizarre since it works for clicks, it doesn't work on the keyboard nor on the S pen pad...
Interesting, I have a surface pro 1 and i'll test it later when I get home tonight. Funny thing, I know multiple people have surface pro as well. I know it's not selling like the iPad or android tablet but it's a full blown PC in tablet form. I guess microsoft is not marketing it well enough for people to mistaken as just a tablet.
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l did not know that.
as far as the surface, it looks awesome but nobody is buying it. I honestly do not know a single person that has one.
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I've got a Surface Pro 3 I use for work. As the IT manager, I could have gotten a tablet, laptop and desktop. I chose to just try the the Surface Pro 3 with docking station. I have two 27" Samsung monitors and the Surface works well as a desktop replacement with it's SSD's, i7 and 16GB of RAM. When I go to meetings I just rip the keyboard off and use it as a tablet.
My only complaint lies with Windows 8.1. What it doesn't do and what I hope Windows 10 does is to dynamically adjust my resolution depending if it's docked or not. 1920x1080 looks great on my 27" monitors, but on my 12" display I would need a magnifying glass. So I have to change rez when I undock. I hope the OS will become more aware of such things in the future.
My Wacom Intuos pen doesn't work though.
I have a SP1 that I bought used, for drawing, didn't come with a pen, and i've always used the one for my Note 10.1 with it.
My motioncomputing Wacom pen works in N4. Erasure works as well. Using Wacom and Note1 SPen on Note1, or Wacom and Note3 SPen on Note3 felt similar. But using the same Wacom and N4 SPen on Note4 is very different. First I realized I need to press little harder when using Wacom and the dot is not properly aligned. It must be that N4 SPen has better technology built in.
My Note Edge died last week....
I was actually very content with it... (Some marshmallow frustrations aside)
The key things I liked were:
- The independent Edge screen!!! I think I will struggle without this.
- The fact that it was an all rounder
Ie IR blaster, removable battery, microsd slot, spen etc.
I am looking at the S8+ as a potential replacement but am also considering tracking down another Note Edge and saving myself £4-500 ish.
I am not into mods and roms etc.
What would make the S8+ compelling enough to override what the Note Edge would provide me?
I think the 6.2 inch screen is one thing... But I think the area of the screen is similar to the Note Edge... It's just bigger on the diagonal?
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I want a Note 7! Nothing else will do. I never asked for 'Bixby'. I don't want 'Google Cards'. I don't want all this intrusive 'smart' nonsense.
Give me a Note 7 or be done with this new age of human made unnecessary technology.
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