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So, we all knew that the smearing issue happening in our phones happened generally around images/text on a black background.
Many of us thought this could be a software issue but in reality this is an hardware limitation (I know many users already know this but there are some still hoping for it to be a software issue).
I had a lot of issues with the first S4 I bought. Most of the issues were around the back light bleed on the bottom and screen color uniformity. After 3 months battling with Samsung with no end in sight, I bought a new one, this time I choose the white one.
The new one has nice whites and the screen uniformity is close to perfect (or at least it seems so, so far). After checking the screen for some hours, I decided the phone was good to be used and started by updating the firmware to the latest available to me (MF8). After this I went to the settings menu to setup some options and I was amazed to see the smearing was almost gone. I never believed it to be a software issue so I was very surprised by this.
However, my surprise ended very quickly when I check the screen on a dark environment. Samsung did not fix the smearing (as it is a hardware limitation and not software like I always thought) they just changed the background of the settings menu from pure black to a very very dark gray.
This can be confirmed if you go to the settings menu and check the background. Then while in the settings menu, drop down the notification back. The notification bar is pure black, while the setting background isn't. Check this on a room without any lights and it will be very easy to detect.
The whole point of this thread is to inform other people from XDA that Samsung just used a workaround (like everything done by Samsung) to "fix" this issue. There is no way to fix this, this is a refresh rate limitation of the screen. If you want the smearing to be gone you cannot have pure blacks.
Nandui said:
So, we all knew that the smearing issue happening in our phones happened generally around images/text on a black background.
Many of us thought this could be a software issue but in reality this is an hardware limitation (I know many users already know this but there are some still hoping for it to be a software issue).
I had a lot of issues with the first S4 I bought. Most of the issues were around the back light bleed on the bottom and screen color uniformity. After 3 months battling with Samsung with no end in sight, I bought a new one, this time I choose the white one.
The new one has nice whites and the screen uniformity is close to perfect (or at least it seems so, so far). After checking the screen for some hours, I decided the phone was good to be used and started by updating the firmware to the latest available to me (MF8). After this I went to the settings menu to setup some options and I was amazed to see the smearing was almost gone. I never believed it to be a software issue so I was very surprised by this.
However, my surprise ended very quickly when I check the screen on a dark environment. Samsung did not fix the smearing (as it is a hardware limitation and not software like I always thought) they just changed the background of the settings menu from pure black to a very very dark gray.
This can be confirmed if you go to the settings menu and check the background. Then while in the settings menu, drop down the notification back. The notification bar is pure black, while the setting background isn't. Check this on a room without any lights and it will be very easy to detect.
The whole point of this thread is to inform other people from XDA that Samsung just used a workaround (like everything done by Samsung) to "fix" this issue. There is no way to fix this, this is a refresh rate limitation of the screen. If you want the smearing to be gone you cannot have pure blacks.
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Some people really make me :crying:
MichelN said:
Some people really make me :crying:
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Care to elaborate on your comment?
i never had any smearing on my s4 so maybe is not a universal issue
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It's not fixed and will never be fixed.
Maybe except some dirty trick such as replacing pure black with dark grey at kernel level etc.
I've lost hope.
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changing the background color from black to dark grey wont do anything samsung....
i wish there was a real fix but sadly i dont think there will be because of the way this new amoled works
It's the technology, it's the amoled, it's all about the inertia. Sell your phone If u can't stand it. It can't be fixed. Period. Deal with it or get different phone.
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Am I the only one who NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEM with my S4?
My s4 works perfectly. So keep me out of your bubble of mishaps.
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Smearing? Never experienced that in my i9500. Is it a myth?
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Some people seem that they don't care enough to even notice that the smearing even exists ...
Also in settings it was a bit annoying but i prefer to have pure black if that's the only disadvantage because i don't think it will proc in anything else other than scrolling because it won't need faster refresh rate ...
I'm not an expert in any form on this kind of things but when i upgraded my phone and saw no smearing in the settings i was first surprised but since i ve read that this is a hardware issue and i double checked it to notice that is a placebo ... but since my phone works as it should and doesn't annoying me with the things i want it to do i don't care that is that this "fix" it's just a cover to the problem and not an actual solution
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Smearing? Never experienced that in my i9500. Is it a myth?
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Your phone has smearing as well. They all do. Not seeing it yourself doesn't make it a myth
wanna see smearing? get some white yellow blue or something like that walpapper (stock blue is perfect), install MX Player from Market.
Get to menu, scroll to the page when the icon of MX Player is, now quickly swipe from right to left, you'll see that black part of icon is extending for maybe 0,1 sec...
That's the smearing, but many of users are pissed with this minor thing, which I can barely see.
drakexpl said:
It's the technology, it's the amoled, it's all about the inertia. Sell your phone If u can't stand it. It can't be fixed. Period. Deal with it or get different phone.
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So you knew that there will be smearing issue before you bought S4???
And also quite surprised so many people haven't able to observe this issue in their phones.
Yes, I knew that, It's still so tiny tiny issue comparing to those on HTC ONE or Xperia Z (I had Z and One before S4).
Everybody should just download screen adjuster and up the contrast to 13 or 15
That way it will still be very very dark gray looking black with almost non existent smearing. Problem (kinda) solved!
THANKS
soulzero said:
Everybody should just download screen adjuster and up the contrast to 13 or 15
That way it will still be very very dark gray looking black with almost non existent smearing. Problem (kinda) solved!
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THANKS MATE! This solved it all! I couldn't stand that problem, to the level I couldn't use ANY black background, thanks, thanks, thanks.
Andresgomezsar said:
THANKS MATE! This solved it all! I couldn't stand that problem, to the level I couldn't use ANY black background, thanks, thanks, thanks.
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Why didn't my GT-I9300 S3 had this?
Why didn't my GT-N7100 Note 2 had this?
Why does my GT-I9505 S4 have this?
It makes me wonder.... do the Note 3 have it as well?
born4trance said:
Why didn't my GT-I9300 S3 had this?
Why didn't my GT-N7100 Note 2 had this?
Why does my GT-I9505 S4 have this?
It makes me wonder.... do the Note 3 have it as well?
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Because they didnt turn off black pixels completely until S4. Note3 should be same as S4
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dragon135 said:
Because they didnt turn off black pixels completely until S4. Note3 should be same as S4
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Noticed ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46123130&postcount=21
I just started using the Expanded Desktop MOD (No Navbar) and noticed that the bottom 8-10mm of the screen has a yellowish tint which isn't really visible on dark backgrounds like the Navbar.
It's clearly visible in apps that use the light theme such as Chrome, Hangouts.
The easiest way to check would be to open the Google keyboard in reverse landscape mode (volume buttons facing upwards) and compare the color from edge to edge.
Fortunately, my N5 doesn't have the overall yellow tint issue which my friend's N5 does and a lot of users have mentioned here.
My question is, is there anyone who has a perfect device? No overall yellowish screen and no uneven colors issue that I have.
I don't want to go through a bunch of RMAs and never get a perfect screen.
Please check your phone's keyboard in reverse landscape mode and post if you see this issue or if the colors are uniform.
Thanks.
My screen has a very slight yellow tint too at the bottom 10mm (the rest is fine, no yellow tint), but it is minor.
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sonnysekhon said:
I just started using the Expanded Desktop MOD (No Navbar) and noticed that the bottom 8-10mm of the screen has a yellowish tint which isn't really visible on dark backgrounds like the Navbar.
It's clearly visible in apps that use the light theme such as Chrome, Hangouts.
The easiest way to check would be to open the Google keyboard in reverse landscape mode (volume buttons facing upwards) and compare the color from edge to edge.
Fortunately, my N5 doesn't have the overall yellow tint issue which my friend's N5 does and a lot of users have mentioned here.
My question is, is there anyone who has a perfect device? No overall yellowish screen and no uneven colors issue that I have.
I don't want to go through a bunch of RMAs and never get a perfect screen.
Please check your phone's keyboard in reverse landscape mode and post if you see this issue or if the colors are uniform.
Thanks.
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That is the Glue drying! It should go away soon
Kwongger said:
That is the Glue drying! It should go away soon
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It's bad quality control if that's the case. I've had it for almost a month so don't think it's going to get better.
Anyone else has this issue?
I've got an N5 32GB that doesn't have the yellowish tint to the screen. Out of the few people I know that have N5's, none of them have that problem. I am wondering if the slight shadow effect is what is being referred to int his thread. Both the top and bottom have a slight shadowing effect on the edges of the screen with the Google Experience launcher. I haven't checked to see if you can turn this off but you can in Nova Launcher. When I get in from work, I'm going to round up some backgrounds to check. If anyone has any they think illustrate the issue best, please post them and I'll check back and try them with my device. For now, I recommend trying the Nova Launcher and turning off the shadowing to get a clear idea of what is going on with the edges of the screen.
Edit: Using Google Search and Hangouts, I don't see any yellowish anything on the edges of my screen regardless of the orientation. I also asked a co-worker to have a look as well and he didn't see any variation in the screen color on the edges, yellow or any other. The launchers I tried was Nova Launcher beta3 and the Google Experience launcher. Both yielded the same results.
Edit 2: It should be noted that I am not using the Expanded Desktop Mod and my ROM is stock with root and CWM for recovery.
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It's bad quality control if that's the case. I've had it for almost a month so don't think it's going to get better.
Anyone else has this issue?
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Yes, i have this issue too. It is my second N5 (first one was a RMA) and i noticed it at the weekend when i flashed Purity ROM and checked a blank website using Chrome with Immersion/Expanded desktop mode enabled. Hmm. Besides that, my second Nexus 5 is near than perfect and basing on my research it is possible, that is glue that has to harden out - so it could disappear some day....? I don´t want to RMA it a third time.
I have also noticed, that the spot is getting stronger when the Nexus is on heat, e.g. with benchmarking or gaming. Weird. But that could be subjective.
I think i will have a look how it goes and than i will decide how to proceed.
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It's bad quality control if that's the case. I've had it for almost a month so don't think it's going to get better.
Anyone else has this issue?
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it could take about 2 to 3 months
Are you all still with first batch phones? I had a 16GB (black) 310k that I sold once my 311k 32GB (black) arrived. I didn't have any issues with the 310k either but it seems a lot more people have had various issues with the 310k over anything later.
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Are you all still with first batch phones? I had a 16GB (black) 310k that I sold once my 311k 32GB (black) arrived. I didn't have any issues with the 310k either but it seems a lot more people have had various issues with the 310k over anything later.
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I am on 311k ...
:good:
hello00 said:
it could take about 2 to 3 months
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Do you mean, it is worth the wait or should we order a replacement device?
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Do you mean, it is worth the wait or should we order a replacement device?
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thats up to u..my n5 was really yellowish..it has been improving after using it more often
Thank you for your help. I think, I will have a look at and see how it goes.
Was your whole screen yellowish, or like mine I a small area?
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I run Immersion Mode and yes the bottom where the keys were have a yellow tint
Same issue here, but mine has almost fixed itself with just using it today. Device has been used for less than a week. I'm hoping what little is still there corrects itself too. Was driving me nuts. It's all I noticed. I attribute it to the glue curing.
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Yes, i am looking and searching for it every time i use the phone.. And yes, that is something that drives one nuts.
I will give it a go like i stated before, and when it is not getting better, i will ask Google for a replacement.
I have taken a photo, i hope you can see it..
Hi TR2N,
It has been a while since your post, but did your yellow tint on the top of your screen ever fade or did you eventually RMA or just live with it? I am dealing with the same issue and the tech at Google never heard about anything related to glue drying.
Thanks,
Jason
sonnysekhon said:
I just started using the Expanded Desktop MOD (No Navbar) and noticed that the bottom 8-10mm of the screen has a yellowish tint which isn't really visible on dark backgrounds like the Navbar.
It's clearly visible in apps that use the light theme such as Chrome, Hangouts.
The easiest way to check would be to open the Google keyboard in reverse landscape mode (volume buttons facing upwards) and compare the color from edge to edge.
Fortunately, my N5 doesn't have the overall yellow tint issue which my friend's N5 does and a lot of users have mentioned here.
My question is, is there anyone who has a perfect device? No overall yellowish screen and no uneven colors issue that I have.
I don't want to go through a bunch of RMAs and never get a perfect screen.
Please check your phone's keyboard in reverse landscape mode and post if you see this issue or if the colors are uniform.
Thanks.
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Dragging up a very old thread but I have this exact issue - the bottom 10mm of phone screen in yellowish. Looks bad in landscape
My device is about 6 weeks old. OP - did you RMA in the end?...
surrealjam said:
Dragging up a very old thread but I have this exact issue - the bottom 10mm of phone screen in yellowish. Looks bad in landscape
My device is about 6 weeks old. OP - did you RMA in the end?...
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I did but the replacements had the same issue and were more yellow overall.
I've had my original phone this whole time. The yellow tint eventually goes away as you keep using it and the glue dries up.
Noticing a kind of very lite shade of greys in white screens irrespective of the brightness. No problem with any other colors. Can’t capture it in a snap. So tried my best to represent it in the image(attached). You can download the image and zoom-in and shake the image in the marked area to clearly see what I’m talking about. Anybody else having this issue? Is it huge issue as I will be working with photographs in the phone?
Just bought the device yesterday. Would be nice if someone can tell me how to convey this to the retailer without making him think that I’m crazy for a replacement. :laugh:
Unlocked model S7(flat)
I have found that all modern high density AMOLED screens have this to some extent. I bought 7 Galaxy S6s and none were perfect, with some better than others. 99% of people won't notice it. And even if you're someone who can notice it, sometimes it takes a couple weeks of owning the phone before you see it, and then once you see it, it's hard to unsee it. It's especially noticeable if you're scrolling and move your eyes up and down the screen with the content as it moves.
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I have found that all modern high density AMOLED screens have this to some extent. I bought 7 Galaxy S6s and none were perfect, with some better than others. 99% of people won't notice it. And even if you're someone who can notice it, sometimes it takes a couple weeks of owning the phone before you see it, and then once you see it, it's hard to unsee it. It's especially noticeable if you're scrolling and move your eyes up and down the screen with the content as it moves.
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I saw it in the first day itself. Expected value for the price paid is not delivered means. It's cheating
Its very common on AMOLED devices unfortunately and my guess is that the vast majority of users cannot see it so lower # of units returned to samsung and they probably will blame it on QA. If a lot of consumers would start to notice it and demand for close to perfect panels then samsung will probably up their AMOLED game.
we bought 3 sgs7 phones all of them have this issue...how can such a company like Samsung do this ...like i cant see that LOL my vission on close distances is verry verry good so thats whay i saw those gray lines in a minute after buying one.i went to see my brothers gs7 after that and of course his one was the same and then after one week my father bought one white version so i thought that the 3rd one has to be a good one but NOPE it was the same story again...im very pissed so i will go to Samsung and tell them about it and will see what will they say...just to let u know guys i had similar problem on xperia z5 but instead of grey lines i had white ones and also some white spots and i send it to waranty and told them about the display issue and they have replaced the screen and now its perfect...so im goin to do that on Samsung aswell. good luck ppl
just to let u know guys i went Samsung and they replaced the screen but those gray lines are visible again so they sad that they cannot fix it and change screen everytime.... it looks like that alot of led panels are baddly constructed in the factory so i decided to return the phone.
I am on my 3rd galaxy S7. The 1st had the SD card connecting and disconnecting. The 2nd one the USB port would no longer transfer data(learned because VR stopped working) I am worried about the build quality of this phone....
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JovHok said:
Noticing a kind of very lite shade of greys in white screens irrespective of the brightness. No problem with any other colors. Can’t capture it in a snap. So tried my best to represent it in the image(attached). You can download the image and zoom-in and shake the image in the marked area to clearly see what I’m talking about. Anybody else having this issue? Is it huge issue as I will be working with photographs in the phone?
Just bought the device yesterday. Would be nice if someone can tell me how to convey this to the retailer without making him think that I’m crazy for a replacement. [emoji23]
Unlocked model S7(flat)
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I have exactly this same issue and it's driving me nuts! I cannot return my phone now, but it's very noticeable for me those grey lines when some other people I tried to show it couldn't see it...I hate AMOLED displays, I have never had a phone with an AMOLED display which was perfect, all of them always had some issue at some point. From Motorola, other Samsung, Huawei, all of them had some sort of issue with the display.[emoji35]
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Replaced once, too. Mine was not a perfect line, like gray dust splattered along a line. Especially visible with grayish flat images, there were clear fluctuations on shade of "gray". Second device is almost perfect. If you look with magnifying glass , there were some pinkish littttle dusty dots on white, but it is really hard to see with naked eye. So happy with second now.
This issue is present because AMOLED screens don't use backlight. Every pixel is emitting light, and my guess is that they aren't distributing the same amount of brightness on every area of the screen.
It's noticable, but as some said to a very small amount of people, and it isn't that much of an issue if u ask me. Bigger issue is that amoled screens burn in over time. I could see my keyboard on white background on my S5 after a year and a half of use. Thank god that s7 has themes so I can change keyboard layouts.
Everything comes with a price... LCD's have their flaws, and so do AMOLED's.
Good news, its just a software bug on Android M, just reflash it to Android N and it will be fixed.
bitterano said:
Good news, its just a software bug on Android M, just reflash it to Android N and it will be fixed.
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Not here, I'm running the latest beta on my s7 and the grey lines are still there, it's a problem with the display itself.
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Found a perfect solution
Found a complete solution here.
Works like a charm.
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My experience.
Hi all,
I have an unlocked, rooted, Nougat ROM S7 Edge and I have been experiencing the same issue for 3 months.
The only way for me to fixed it is to flash Superman ROM, then the lines disappear. Any other ROM (Elyos, S8 ports, ...): I have the grey lines. A kernel issue?
Cheers.
P.S.: Flicker free kernel used to work with Superman ROM but if I flash it after any other ROM, my phone gets stuck in boot.
I have a S8+, and one thing that really annoys me is how there is about an inch or so at the top of the homescreen that can't be used for icons or widgets. Normally I would put the Google search bar there, but the highest it can go is about an inch off the notification bar at the top. *Really* annoying to have that space and not use it...
I don't really want to replace the launcher (at least not within 2 days of a brand new phone), so is there a way around it? Or do we have to wait until Samsung realises that the screen aspect ratio is slightly longer that a normal phone, and fixes the issue...
While I'm at it, is there a way to change the icon for a folder to use a specific icon (eg. first app in folder), rather than the usual bad looking (to my eyes at least) tiny apps inside the folder look? Otherwise I'm back to using Folder Organizer I guess... I know Nova probably sorts this all out, but it never 100% agreed with me for whatever reason and I always reverted eventually.
Finally, is there a way to get the AOD screen to appear on a clear flip case? Obviously it's being clever by turning off the display when the flip case is closed (magnet thingy embedded in the case), but as the case is clear(ish) then it defeats the point. Nice if there was a switch in options to keep the AOD screen active even if a case is closed on it, but I cannot find it...
Cheers
I never noticed it left that much space… . now it bugs me lol.
Yeah, it leaves a lot of space. Not sure why. You could fit another row of icons easily, but no go currently.
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Yeah, it leaves a lot of space. Not sure why. You could fit another row of icons easily, but no go currently.
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Fair enough. Thought as much. I'll give it a month, see if I reach unheard levels of OCD, and then install Nova if Samsung don't update. Will be about by 10th Nova install, but I always revert eventually. Always something that annoys me with it...
Stupid really, especially as it seems pretty obvious that it's about the right amount of space you gain from the extra length of the S8. Would bet the farm that Samsung forgot the new aspect ratio when it came to this. Honestly, there must be months of testing, and it's hard to believe it was missed.... Unless of course everyone at Samsung just installed Nova... Wouldn't be too surprised...
That AOD issue with the clear flip screen is well annoying though.... Really is a massive pain, especially when you can see right through the case, and even still use the touch screen (useful for answering calls without opening the case). Samsung does an amazing job on the screen, and then their own case has a compatibility issue....
Hmm, just noticed something... First day using while working, and a couple of times while wirelessly charging it has lost the wifi signal. Never (really really rarely) did that with my old Nexus 5. Don't like that considering I clicked on a notification icon on the AOD and it then tells me my network connection isn't available (and then connects before removing the notification so I don't know what it is). That's annoying... Sleep mode or something for wifi? Think I remember something similar years ago... Anyone?
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Use Nova Launcher and problem solved
@Crivensie, sounds like you're a bit like me. Nothing wrong with high expectations. About Samsung's testing though...I am not sure how thoroughly they test things because I found many bugs on the phone so far and I wasn't even trying. I'm not surprised at all at the issues you're having.
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Use Nova Launcher and problem solved
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Like in Nova we can lock screen so Icons/widgets do not get delted by mistake
can we do that here in Samsung
I know this device has just launched in the USA (I just got mine from ZTEUSA like 3 days ago), but I was hoping for more activity in this forum. I know the Axon 10 Pro launched internationally at the end of May so I figured more people would have picked one up and been contributing here.
At any rate, I'm enjoying the device so far. Lack of OIS kind of hurts the camera in my opinion, and there's a bug in the gesture navigation where if you swipe up to go home, the system overrides whatever launcher you have set as default and restores the factory launcher, which is annoying (doesn't happen with 3 button navigation or pill navigation). But supposedly, ZTE is aware of the problem and working on a fix (according to their forum). Also, the system settings menu is WHITE with no way to turn it dark. So global dark mode doesn't work correctly. Those are about the only complaints I have so far. Oh, and the night mode of the stock camera app is really kind of lacking. Often, the standard photo mode takes better low light pictures than the "night" mode. But I installed the GCam app, and the night mode seems to work great.
Hopefully ZTE will fix the gestures and improve the camera with a quick update. Fingers crossed.
I got mine's on Tuesday thru Newegg and I love it so far. Its definitely huge and has to stay on a flat surface and only in my pocket on travel. I'm in love with how fast it is and there's minimal bloatware associated. Accessories are good in the original package but its damn near impossible to find a decent case or even screen protector elsewhere. Disappointing seeing that the phone has been out for awhile. I did appreciate the headphones Newegg gave up as i was *this* close to getting BeatsPro's. Only problem i can see is in the camera. Its one of ZTE's selling points but there's no image stabilization, and low light usage comes out subpar. I also notice vertical gray lines when zooming in and out. Hopefully this can be solved with a software update. Battery life is excellent here: i make it home after a 12 hour shift of light to medium usage with 70% left over.
I got this phone on Friday. So far I like the stock feeling. The launcher is outdated in my opinion. The software need a lot tweak.
I don't know why the vibration setting is only off-on. It don't even have slider option.
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