Oppo f1f vs Sony Z3 - Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

There are many Android phones in our home. I'm using Sony Xperia Z3 and Compact running stock marshmallow. Now on the other hand there's oppo f1f also almost same specs like sony z3 but oppo is octa core running on lollipop and much better mobo than z3. Now z3 is quadcore but running on mm 6.0.1 while oppo f1f is octa core also 3gb ram but m.f is running on final release by company lollipop 5.1.1
My brain is confuse really now and i wanna hit my head on the walls and scream like a nut case who needs some mental treatment.

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[C][Info] Samsung Galaxy S5 vs. Sony Xperia Z2

Sony Xperia Z2 Review vs Samsung Galaxy S5 Review
We cannot ignore this; Samsung always has Special thing! (Edit: nothing special for this time! except true OctaCore)
almost all things about Xperia Z2 was not surprise But special.
pnt) please go to source posts to see more info...
Specifications​
​ Galaxy S5; Price
5.1" FHD Display (SuperSensitive TouchPanel) /Super AMOLED (same as S4 & Note3)
2.5GHz QuadCore Snpadragon 801-8974AC & 2.1GHz Exynos (true) OctaCore
2GB RAM
16/32GB Internal (+microSDcard for Media & Apps) ** 16GB >> ~10GB available
16MP rear (1/2.6 lens size ISOCELL + 1.12 µm pixel size + 4K)/2MP front
IP67 (Water-Dust resistant)
2800mAh (+ UltraPowerSaving Mod >> turn phone to black-white!)
Speaker; One Mono speaker
Android KK 4.4
Sensors;
Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer, temperature, humidity, gesture, heart rate
Final Specs
MicroSite
>Early Performance Report, Benchmarks
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Xperia Z2; Price
5.2" FHD Display (SuperSensitive TouchPanel) /IPS + X-Reality + LiveColour LED (Triluminos)
2.3GHz QuadCore (Snapdragon-801/8974AB)
16GB Internal (+microSDcard for Media) ** 16GB >> ~12GB available
3GB RAM
20.7 rear(f/2. lens-1/2.3 size + 4K)/2.1MP front >> ExmorRS + G-Lens + BIONZ img process
3200mAh battery (+ new Stamina Mod >> Control Background processes & kill apps during standby)
(Speakers Stereo /2speakers)
Water-Proof/Dust-Resistant IP58
Android KK 4.4.2​>> Screen-Shots & Features Source1 Source2
Sensors;
Accelerometer, Barometer, Geomagnetic rotation vector, Gyroscope, Magnetometer, Step counter, Step detector, Significant motion detector, Proximity
Final Spec
White-Paper
Display Viewing Angle on Xperia Z2 (nothing to say about S5 cause Super AMOLED is awesome enough )
>Early Performance Report, Benchmarks
Sony tried to reduce bezels size and improve their OmniBalance design. It means even if Xperia Z2 is tall But bigger display & Battery. also durability for IP58.
Samsung has great design on Galaxy S4. round phone is always expected from samsung. but Round phone with more bezel than previous flagship is not that cool! It s exactly unlike what Sony done.
For both phone; Durability of Phone force them to design.
In this side Sony did smarter job cause it uses metallic frame and thinner bezel.
BUT first you have to check performance of phone.
This time Sony have better plan for availability.
Xperia Z2 will come in Mid-March But Galaxy S5 in early April.
x102x96x said:
However on Xperia Z, ZL, Z1 & etc we saw lots of new and report about BAD display (Viewing Angle) But this time we can see lots of report about GOOD display.
Now It s about Large Color Gamut.
& maybe it s widest color range support for smartphones.
This Color Gamut is even more than Super-AMOLED displays.
Source
Xperia Z2 vs Z1s; Compare Colors on Display
Xperia Z2 vs Z1 vs Z1c Viewing-Angle
Display On Xperia Z2 is combination of IPS + Triluminos + Live Colour LED + (In Media: X-Reality engine)
Display Source Post
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x102x96x said:
nothing to say about Galaxy S5 sound cause it s not something special it has mono-speakers(Like S4 & Note3)
But 2 Stereo Speaker on Xperia Z2 is very good.
Xperia Z2 VS htc ONE [Sound]
/htc ONE has Dual Speaker-Beats Audio sound enhancement
Xperia Z2 is Louder but still htc one is more clear.
But thr s awesome speakers on XZ2 so they can improve quality by Software update.
Great Improvement from Z1;
Xperia Z1 vs Xperia Z2 [Sound Comparison]
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Note On Flagships Support
x102x96x said:
Previous phones cannot compete with Xperia Z2
Only we can expect that Galaxy S5 with ISOCELL camera and bigger pixel size become real competitor.
More On Galaxy S5 ISOCELL powered Camera
Low-Light Camera test Xperia Z2
Camera Test Tokyo-Night
Outdoor + HDR On/Off Camera test Galaxy S5
Camera Source Post
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x102x96x said:
Snapdragon 801 8974-AB vs Snapdragon 801 8974-AC
Galaxy S5
CPU; 2.5GHz*
GPU; 578MHz
Xperia Z2
CPU; 2.3GHz
GPU; 550MHz**
AnTuTu v4
Galaxy S5: 35145
Xperia Z2: 34986
GFXBench 2.7 T-Rex
Xperia Z2: 27.7
Galaxy S5: 27.5
*CPU on Galaxy S5 clocked 0.2GHz higher than Xperia Z2. and there s just 159points more for Galaxy S5.
**GPU on Galaxy S5 clocked 28MHz higher than Xperia Z2 But in GFXBench 2.7 T-Rex Xperia Z2 got 0.2points more than Galaxy S5
>>These scores are from Demo units. SO we cannot judge according to them.
Final Units with Final Optimization are important.
Source
>> Here u can see 0.2GHz different between Xperia and Galaxy CPU. But Xperia has 1GB more in RAM.
Performance Source Post
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./updating...
please write your opinion about these two flagships...
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S5 just have FHD display with Snap S800 and 2Gig of RAM
May be souce is wrong,
Samsung Galaxy S5 will be using Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 chipset in MSM8974-AC variant, clocked at 2.5 GHz. Sony D6503 will be also using Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 chipset in MSM8974-AB variant, clocked at 2.3 GHz.
El.Guaje said:
S5 just have FHD display with Snap S800 and 2Gig of RAM
May be souce is wrong,
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yes the source is wrong, the screen is not 1080p its at least 2k
anyone own a Sony will regret it...Sony will be bankrupt in the next 3 years guarantee it, crappy phones, crappy tv, crappy headphone. Its hard to believe Sony is a Japanese company.
There's multiple versions of S5, Exynos and Snapdragon, FullHD and QHD, I guess only the exynos version will have QHD, or it might be a mix... Samsung doesn't have LTE modem compatible with everywhere that's why they're using Qualcomm in some cases ( S4 LTE used Qualcomm, while S4 3G used Exynos ).. the reason of why there's two screen resolution I guess is duo to low QHD production, Samsung can't sustain the required demand for these so they're going after FHD as a backup...
In most cases, we might get Exynos with QHD and Qualcomm with FullHD...
Sony's flagship will have 3300mAh according to latest rumor, it also has stereo speakers
8974AC
rency_0722 said:
Samsung Galaxy S5 will be using Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 chipset in MSM8974-AC variant, clocked at 2.5 GHz. Sony D6503 will be also using Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 chipset in MSM8974-AB variant, clocked at 2.3 GHz.
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SD-800
according to wikipedia and sources below wiki page SD800-8974AC max speed is 2.4GHz
however they can modify it for 2.5GHz but that s wht we know.
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Galaxy S5 might be water-dust resistant
According to O2 Germany via AndroidAuthority
Sent via Nexus7 | WiFi.32GB
Or we could see an GS5 Active or O2 could be using "water" to hide the GS5 since they have no clue what it looks like.
RaptorMD said:
Or we could see an GS5 Active or O2 could be using "water" to hide the GS5 since they have no clue what it looks like.
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it s ur opinion But when they mentions sentences like samsung even can do more and etc it can have another meaning!
:good:
NOW Sony have too difficult battle.
cause S5 probably support IP67
and 16MP camera with bigger sensor with aqua mod
Source
If only the Sony would be widespread in the US like the S5.
x102x96x said:
it s ur opinion But when they mentions sentences like samsung even can do more and etc it can have another meaning!
:good:
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You're right it's my opinion and so is everything else on the net regarding the GS5. No one knows for sure until next Monday. That is FACT.
Something Extraordinary vs. Life-5
Samsung released Galaxy Unpacked 5 trailer
everything marked 5 include Wet 5 (that can prove this galaxy is water proof)
Source
Sony mentioned Something Extraordinary is coming
Source
Xperia Z2
We saw Xperia Z2 and now waiting for Galaxy S5
Samsung doesn't have difficult way to win battle !
:good:
Xperia Z2 Display powered by both Live Color algorithm & X-Reality engine
IPS /TRILUMINOS FullHD
It can be positive point for new Xperia...
Galaxy S5
NOW I have to say Samsung had so difficult battle!
and i my opinion Samsung cannot win!
after successful S4 & Note3
this S5 is not that impressive!
everything about it
Xperia Z2 is winner of MWC14
The ugliest device of 2014: Samsung galaxy S5!
Xperia Z2 aperature is 2.0 not 2.3
The Sony is too tall. The GS4 is already tall enough. I don't want a taller phone with a lot of bezel.
x102x96x said:
Hi
pnt.) We cannot ignore this; Samsung always has Special thing! (Edit: nothing special for this time!)
First Different:
We know exact name of this flagship from Samsung and little bit about its feature (thats because XDA made GS5 forums so soon)
But we know almost spec & feature of new Xperia But don't know what will be its name!
Expected Specifications
Galaxy S5;
5.25" FHD Display (SuperSensitive TouchPanel)
2.5GHz
2GB RAM
16/32GB Internal
16MP rear (that might be f/2.2 lens + 4K)/2MP front More on Camera
IP67
2800mAh
Android KK 4.4
Source
Final Specs
Xperia Flagship (D6503);
5.2" FHD Display (SuperSensitive TouchPanel)
2.3GHz QuadCore (SD-800/8974AB)
16GB Internal
3GB RAM
20.7 rear(that might be f/2. lens-1/2.3 size + 4K)/2.1MP front
3200mAh battery + new Stamina Mod)
(Speakers Stereo /2speakers)
Water-Proof/Dust-Resistance IP58
Android KK 4.4.2​Look almost Screen-Shots & Features Source1 Source2
Final Spec
(but there might be Exynos version of Galaxy S5.
the most thing I love to see is new innovations of Samsung in chipsets.: edited>> NOTHING about Exynos!)
pnt.) idk! in my opinion S5 design is not like premium phone at all and so not like Flagship!
please write your opinion about these two flagships...
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Dont ever doubt.. Xperia is winner!

[Q] What about Xperia M2 Aqua (D2403)?

Well im planning to buy Xperia M2 Aqua, but it prings up some concerns about development for this phone. On paper it has very simmilar specs to Xperia M2:
Both have 1GB RAM
Both have 4.8 inch 540x960 screens
Both have 8MP camera
With only diffrence being in proccesors (witch from what i know makes pretty much all the diffrence)
1.2 GHz Qualcomm MSM8926 Quad Core (only for Xperia M2 D2303,D2306)
vs
1.2 GHz Qualcomm MSM8926-2 Quad Core (for Xperia M2 Aqua)
I dont really know whats the diffrence between both proccesors, doubt we can talk about compatiblity. But its not a big diffrence right?
So would there be any development for Xperia M2 Aqua, since i doubt its going to get a seprete forum (would be great though)?
- The screen is now marketed as IPS but it still has the greenish tint at lower light settings, so no improvement.
- The resolution is the same QGA and that's fine for a 4.8 screen in my books.
- The water-resistant covers eventually drop off after some months of use, at least this is what happened on my V. Anyway don't rely on that and emerge into water. When new it's ok but after weeks ... you wouldn't be the first.
- The powers saving are attributed mostly to KK, you can have that also on the non aqua model.
- As for the processor I can't say anything, except that on my 2303 the core 2 and 3 are pretty rarely used. A custom kernel would be really needed here.
- The glass is still the same, declared scratch resistant but not Corning, and smudging in the same manner.
- 1 gB RAM to my opinion in practice is not really enough anymore, but that does not concern Sony only.
- Sony is not exchanging our devices for the after 5 months after launch updated M2. Also consider a Asus Zenfone, Xiaomi, or a Lenovo in this class. They cost either less or offer much more for the same cash.
Well Xiaomi is pretty much non existant in my country, same for Lenovo phones. I was considering Asus Zenfone 5 for a while, but the M2 Aqua has like 70€ price cut, so its a good deal for only 199€. The major problem is that i'd like to get Cyanogenmod on it one day, but though thats happing.
MLDev said:
Well Xiaomi is pretty much non existant in my country, same for Lenovo phones. I was considering Asus Zenfone 5 for a while, but the M2 Aqua has like 70€ price cut, so its a good deal for only 199€. The major problem is that i'd like to get Cyanogenmod on it one day, but though thats happing.
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you like buy a Chinese made smartphone than buy a support software
welll, they're a much better than M2 but they won't give a software support on it

Xperia M2 will not get Marshmallow update, Sony released their roadmap for 6.0

http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/06/sony-xperia-and-android-6-0-marshmallow/
Sony has released their 6.0 roadmap, and M2 / M2 Aqua is not included.
Xperia Z5, Xperia Z5 Compact, Xperia Z5 Premium, Xperia Z4 Tablet, Xperia Z3+, Xperia Z3, Xperia Z3 Compact, Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact, Xperia Z2, Xperia Z2 Tablet, Xperia M5, Xperia C5 Ultra, Xperia M4 Aqua and Xperia C4 are going to get the upgrade.
It was expected. But what I didn't expect tho is that the E3, E4, and T3 never recived a single major update (They were all released with KK, RIP!).
At least we have a working, stable & Sony Stock 5.1.1 Lollipop (And developers are also working on cROMS with camera!)
I knew that anyway, T3 just wasn't a popular enough device there's less than 800 registered users on sonys support forum worldwide I've only seen one in pictures. Also been trying to tell people in the xperia groups on g+ for weeks that the z and z1 wouldn't get it not that they'd believe me.
D2303 5.1 lollipop customised NCB rooted de-bloated LB t2u nut dual recovery x-reality+supervivid
Well, i had no hopes for the regular M2 since it`s past its support period (18 months for mid rangers), had a minor hope for the M2 Aqua since it`s newer. Anyway, the M2 had a good life, and indeed, 5.1 is stable and perfectly optimized (just as fast as the Motorola G 2014, a friend of mine has it so we compared). Hopefully they update it with a fix for the kswapd0 process sitting at 40-50% all the time and draining battery. Still getting 1 day out of it with normal/heavy usage, so it`s not a deal-breaker.
As far as the E series are concerned, budget phones never get proper support, OEMs make nothing n terms of profit from them, hence the lack of support. Even Mototorola, who IMHO, has the best trakrecord when it comes to updates besides the Nexus line, dropped support for the budget E line (2014 and 2015) models.
I will certainly be paying the extra come upgrade time to get the best Xperia device I can afford.
D2303 5.1 lollipop customised NCB rooted de-bloated LB t2u nut dual recovery x-reality+supervivid
expected. it was a surprise they tretaed us with the 5.1.1. update and astable one too... lets hope they bother to fix the camera, gps and battery issues, and it was more then enough for the good old M2...
I know the 18 month support its over, but I still have a hope on the good old M2, just because the release of Android M preview on the developer section. That's how it started with Lollipop. So, even if I'm pretty happy with stock 5.1.1 (except for the camera), I would be pretty positive about getting a late release of M.
the good news is xm2 changed cm12.1 alpha to beta almost fully working, and waiting for cm13 , thanks cm team veryyy
SpectreXM8 said:
Well, i had no hopes for the regular M2 since it`s past its support period (18 months for mid rangers), had a minor hope for the M2 Aqua since it`s newer. Anyway, the M2 had a good life, and indeed, 5.1 is stable and perfectly optimized (just as fast as the Motorola G 2014, a friend of mine has it so we compared). Hopefully they update it with a fix for the kswapd0 process sitting at 40-50% all the time and draining battery. Still getting 1 day out of it with normal/heavy usage, so it`s not a deal-breaker.
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It has been reported by @semil and confirmed by @linuxct that changing the swappiness value to something between 40-60 improves it (with zram enabled). Obviously you need root. Just make a /etc/init.d script with the following line
Code:
sysctl -w vm.swappiness=60
(you can change 60 to 40 or else while testing) or add it to /etc/init.d/00stop_ric. It changed f. nothing to my phone, though. It's driving me mad.
Anyway, 18 months support is pure bollocks. It should be at least 2 years (but I'd say 3), for all phones respecting the minimum requirements. The Xperia Z is still a great phone, I'm sure it will be more capable than some new low range phones that will have Android M pre installed.

Z3 vs XA Ultra?

I know the XA Ultra is a budget phone, but it looks amazing and seems to have a pretty good camera(which is all I really want). How is the MediaTek MT6755 cpu compared to our current Snapdragon 801?
How big of a downgrade would you say going from a Z3 to this is? I have no desire of getting a X.
I should have made this thread in the XA Ultra forum, sorry.
Thread closed
rule 5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xa-ultra/help/q-coming-z3-how-downgrade-t3390377

Sony Z5 vs Sony ż3

To be very honest I wanna say something bulldog that though Sony z5 got a powerful snapdragon 810 chip support than Sony z3's 32 bit snapdragon 801 motherboard but I disappointed when I saw that Sony ź5 is out of devices list from carbon rom cr 6.1
I like that rom carbon cr 6.1 and beta cr 7
But I'm stuck on z5's stock nougat 7.0
And I hate this rom.
Now seriously planning to revert back ? to a Z3 device so that I could enjoy the carbon roms you beauty.

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