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[Q] Designing new Tablet, could use some experts feedback!

Hello,
I am an Industrial designer and part of implementing a product is some good groundwork. Therefor i am doing research regarding functionalities of current tablets and user needs,
I am hoping to get some inside information on XDA from some veteran tableteers. I consider you guys as early adopters and that is excactly what my target group is
I am working for a client who which uses the keywords; simplify, iconic, bold, rebels. There current portfolio consists of a phone with only one function; calling. The phone is therefor cheap, but it also make a statement 'look how cool i am with this simple phone'.
I want to design the next product for that company, in my case a tablet. To fit the current product portfolio the tablet needs to be as iconic as the phone. So simplifing everything to the basic needs of users, therefor it also makes a statement.
Products which are currently 'on the market' which are some inspiration for me are;
Wacom inkling
Sorry cant post links yet..
Noteslate(not yet on the market)
Sorry cant post links yet..
Boogie board
Sorry cant post links yet..
Part of being iconic and making a statement in my POV is bringing back the blackboard feeling with the squeeky finger due to the chalk. Combining the 'paper feel' with electronics; this is also what the company prefers.
first mock-up(excuse me for the quality)
Sorry cant post links yet..
I think the main feature of this tablet will be notetaking and drawing, including a mail service and maby an agenda. You can add or subtract functions. The focus will therefor be in the business market and perhaps for in class during lectures.
One focus lays on personalizing the tablet. Like you would do know with your paper notebook, making drawings and it feels yours. Where tablets know are being handled with care you are not personally bonding with the device. I am thinking of features where you can add your own gestures for turning on the device (like your autograph) and drawing an envelop around something will automatticaly mail it.
Finally my first questions for you guys (im hoping to asking more in the future);
1. Which functions do you use most on current tablets
2. Will you buy a tablet with these limited amount of functions, and what would you pay
3. If you own an tablet, would you see yourself using it as an personal agenda and notetaker, why and why not?
4. Do you see the monochrone screen as a negative or positive, why would you prefer a colour screen (if outcome was negative)
5. How do you currently personalize a) your tablet and b) your notebook/agenda/phone etc. Outside and inside
6. what size would you prefer?
Any feedback will be welcome, also criticism (constructive) is very welcome.
I am currently just in the research stage, but chances are this product actually hitting the market.
Thanks very much in advance for your time, im hoping for some great feedback!
greets, Kars Rotteveel

Kars.R said:
Finally my first questions for you guys (im hoping to asking more in the future);
1. Which functions do you use most on current tablets
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Does features count as functions ?
2. Will you buy a tablet with these limited amount of functions, and what would you pay
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I would pay around $960 for a full-fledged tablet , since I'm 15
3. If you own an tablet, would you see yourself using it as an personal agenda and notetaker, why and why not?
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There is a possibility that I might use it for note-taking because of its portability
4. Do you see the monochrone screen as a negative or positive, why would you prefer a colour screen (if outcome was negative)
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What's with the monochrome ? I'd prefer a colour screen because it makes the tablet experience more pleasant .
5. How do you currently personalize a) your tablet and b) your notebook/agenda/phone etc. Outside and inside
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a) Tablet:
-Bigger than 6' but smaller than 15'
-Uses a touchscreen
-Does not have any physical keyboard
-Allows native HSDPA and/or 4G internet access
-Has 2 cameras , one at the back and the other at the front .
-A decent processor of approx. 1Ghz
-A roundy + square-ish look (like the Xoom)
-Physical buttons instead of touch-sensitive buttons
b)Notebook (as in the electronic device):
-Has a processor speed of at least 1.5Ghz
-Has at least 512MB of RAM
-Runs either Windows , Mac , Linux , Ubuntu or Fedora .
-Has USB ports (duhhhhh)
-Allows multiboot
-Has a front-facing webcam .
-Optional touchscreen support with both virtual and physical keyboard + mouse
-The usual notebook design (the flap style)
-Larger than 11' but smaller than 20'
6. what size would you prefer?
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I mentioned that when I answered question 5
Hope that I helped you......
Sorry if I didn't help.....
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Note Anytime and mazec2 - Now Released on Google Play!

Hello everyone, this app has now come out of beta and has been released on Google Play. It is still free and they will offer various in-app purchases going forward.
The link to the release version can be found here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sMSwyLDEsImNvbS5tZXRhbW9qaS5ub3RlYW55dGltZSJd
There is also a new version of the handwriting recognition app called 'Mazec2' which has also been released. If you have purchased the first version, they have advised not to purchase as existing users will get a free upgrade soon. This app will allow you to write in your own handwriting using Note Anytime and convert to text later e.g. after returning to your desk from a meeting etc.
The link to mazec2 can be found here for those who may wish to purchase it:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...51bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5tZXRhbW9qaS5tYXplY2VuIl0.
mazec2 also allows you to use handwriting input in any app that uses a keyboard however will convert the handwriting to text as you go i.e. will not let you convert to text later unless used in conjunction with Note Anytime or another app known as 7Notes.
The app works brilliantly with the Note 10.1 but unfortunately does not offer stylus only (S-Pen) input at present. To use palm rejection, place the S-Pen close to the screen until you can see the dot and then rest your palm on the screen and write away.
Another issue with the android version is that you cannot convert notes to PDF directly from the app, the notes are saved as images in your gallery whereby you can use a third party app to convert them all into a single PDF document.
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Hello everyone,
There's a new note taking app coming our way and hopefully will be the most full featured and smooth app for this purpose to date.
It has been released for iPad and the new Windows platform but us Android users have to wait as usual. Hopefully they are saving the best till last!
The app has been developed by the same team that brought us 7Notes, anyone who knows about the 7Notes app will testify that it is one of the best if not, the best handwriting to text apps available.
Notes Anytime hopefully will include this functionality with S-pen compatibility but unfortunately I could not find any confirmation of this. The iPad version does not have handwriting to text option however the Windows one does.
I have tried the app on my wife's iPad and can say that it really works well even with a fat capacitive touch stylus.
If you want to know more and see some videos on other platforms, use the link below:
http://www.product.metamoji.com/en/anytime/
The app will also allow you to load pdf files straight into it for annotation and has some really nice calligraphy style pens for making your handwriting look really nice. The user interface is very intuitive and all the tools for creating notes are easily at hand. The app also uses vector graphics so if you resize items, you will not lose any quality.
This may be the S-note killer that we have been waiting for although I could not see any shape or formula tools on the iPad version.
Please post any new info about availability if you can find out more.

checked out the link, looks pretty nice...looking forward to this. Thanks for the heads up OP

ugotproblemz said:
checked out the link, looks pretty nice...looking forward to this. Thanks for the heads up OP
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No problem, I have emailed the developers of the app for some specific functionality for the Note 10.1 i.e. if they will include pen support etc Will let you know if I hear any more news.

I have had some feedback from the company which will give you an idea of what to expect from the app, bear in mind that the answers provided are subject to change depending on what is released. The questions followed by responses are shown below:
1) When do you plan to release the app for the Android platform? Spring next year, it is said.
2) Will it have handwriting to text like 7Notes? Maybe or maybe not. This is under consideration.
3) Will the app facilitate digital pen input? No plan at this moment.
4) If the notes are saved in the Note Anytime format using an iPad, can it be read on other platforms such as android or Windows 8 with editing functionality? Yes! You can share the notes among different devices using our storage service "Digital Cabinet".

Look nice, but tired of being the last platform again
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Hi all,
A beta version of the app has been launched on the Google play:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.metamoji.noteanytime_beta
It has tons of useful functionality but handwriting/ drawing needs to be improved for the note 10.1, especially with curved letters such as s. Strangely, handwriting worked ok with the note 2.
It has OneNote like functionality with regards to text and works really well with the 7Notes handwriting entry panel (separate app from same developers with amazing handwriting recognition)
In its current state, other than the issue mentioned above, features work really well and this can easily become the top note taking tool on Android to date. It just needs to work seamlessly with the note 10.1 to achieve this.

This looks really nice but I agree on the handwriting portion. Everytime I try to write a "w" it puts a \ and asks if I want to add an item.
Using the Samsung OCR keyboard works perfectly and I like the scaling and repositioning functionality.
I'll keep it installed for now hoping that they update soon on the handwriting options.

looks awesome, will try it now.

Re: Note Anytime - coming soon on Google Play
Needs better RTF and text functions but promising.
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Gramon said:
This looks really nice but I agree on the handwriting portion. Everytime I try to write a "w" it puts a \ and asks if I want to add an item.
Using the Samsung OCR keyboard works perfectly and I like the scaling and repositioning functionality.
I'll keep it installed for now hoping that they update soon on the handwriting options.
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Yep, same issue here, I have emailed the developers and they have acknowledged there is an issue but seems to be only affecting the note series. They have passed to the development team to look into.
Will keep you updated if I here anything.

when using spen the screen seems to be very little responsive compearing to ie. lecture notes.
i need to push spen pretty hard to write and no continous writing was possible then. even on sensitive settings.
in lecture notes it is like writing on paper. in this app, not really.
lots of work to be done if they want to make the app spen compatible.
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A new version (beta II) has been released today.
Unfortunately it seems that there's still no support for Samsung S Pen, even if
in the new version announcement notice (here) it's said that
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- Improved handwriting (in particular, for 10.1 size tablet with Samsung S-pen)
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Anyway I couldn't set (or see) any pressure sensitivity in the handwriting with the stylus (nor any palm rejection setting too).
But maybe I have missed them.
Or (hopefully) they will come with the next official release.

sphere314 said:
A new version (beta II) has been released today.
Unfortunately it seems that there's still no support for Samsung S Pen, even if
in the new version announcement notice (here) it's said that
...
- Improved handwriting (in particular, for 10.1 size tablet with Samsung S-pen)
...
Anyway I couldn't set (or see) any pressure sensitivity in the handwriting with the stylus (nor any palm rejection setting too).
But maybe I have missed them.
Or (hopefully) they will come with the next official release.
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I've updated it today and can say that it is very usable now, before the update it was almost impossible to write any curved letters. The writing is very smooth now.
I think the fix was mainly so that it could work with the Note 10.1 Spen, non Note users did not have issues using their fingers or fat stylus's. pressure sensitivity was definitely not a part of this update.
For palm rejection to work, move the S-Pen close to where you want to write until you can see the S-Pen dot hovering on the screen and start writing. If you now rest your palm, there should not be any issues.
Today's update makes the app functional using our notes although there is room for improvement going forward.

It will be my ideal app if this note-anytime UI combine with lecture-note function ...
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Op has been updated with the latest news about this app.

I am loving the new update. Lines are smooth and writing feels pretty good. The only thing is I feel like there is still a little bit of lag when writing and then lag when clicking menus.
I cannot wait for the S-pen only option to be implemented. That plus some performance tweaks would make it my primary notetaking app. The features are pretty solid at the moment I think. Keep it up!

Can anyone share the app?
I would like to try that but in Google Play I get info, that the app isnt available for my phone
I have Galaxy Note 2 with fully functional NOTE 10.1 rom on it(miniTAB rom).
Tnx for help and take care

There definitely seems to be more lag.

[Q] using note as stylus

Hi, is it possible to use our note 10.1 to work as stylus board such as wacom boards, I mean connect your note to pc through usb and draw directly on your pc drawing application , it will be agreat if that possible, I used remote desktop but that's not work because of delay and accuracy . I have an idea to use android apps looks like a black rectangular with 5 customized virtual button and send a pen pressure level and position as input to pc driver software and then used as input to photoshop or other painting software
Thx guys

MANDRAKEREDHAT said:
Hi, is it possible to use our note 10.1 to work as stylus board such as wacom boards, I mean connect your note to pc through usb and draw directly on your pc drawing application , it will be agreat if that possible, I used remote desktop but that's not work because of delay and accuracy . I have an idea to use android apps looks like a black rectangular with 5 customized virtual button and send a pen pressure level and position as input to pc driver software and then used as input to photoshop or other painting software
Thx guys
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1869803
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1845710
or Short answer: it's not possible yet... maybe in a few months...

Thanx man

EMUI 10.1 Firmware for 5G EVR-N29 [Changelog, Your Experiences & Thoughts]

Finally, this morning the update notification landed on my EVR-N29 UK EE Network supplied device. I have not installed as the update is really big but will certainly update later and provide my thoughts on the experience. Primarliy, I am hoping that the battery life and the audio volume will increase for this model.
Link for information about the device:
https://consumer.huawei.com/uk/phones/mate20-x-5g/
Link for information on EMUI 10.1:
https://consumer.huawei.com/en/emui10-1/
EMUI VERSION:
EMUI 10.1 for Huawei Mate 20 X 5G for Europe
EMUI 10.1 version 10.1.0.215
Size: 4.37GB.
HUAWEI MATE 20 X 5G EMUI 10.1 CHANGELOG:
This update introduces EMUI 10.1, designed to deliver a finer-tuned user experience with a higher performance and a more secure system. This operating system, based on distributed technologies, enables you to seamlessly interact across devices and enjoy a diverse range of practical features, including mobile office, in different scenarios. Install this update to facilitate a more intelligent lifestyle.
ALWAYS ON DISPLAY:
Allows the Always On Display clock to change colors dynamically based on the time of day. You can also download more styles from the Themes app.
Adds a three-dimensional clock style option to Always On Display.
FINGERPRINT ANIMATION:
Adds three fingerprint unlock animation options.
MULTI-WINDOW:
Allows you to multitask with ease in Split-screen mode, and send messages using a floating window while watching videos or playing games. Swipe in from the left or right edge of the screen and pause to display the Multi-Window dock. Hold an app icon in the dock and drag it to the side of the screen to enter split-screen view, or touch an app icon to display it in a floating window.
MULTI-DEVICE COLLABORATION
Call answering
Allows you to pick up voice and video calls on your phone from your Huawei laptop.
File Editing
Allows you to directly read and edit files on your phone from your Huawei laptop, and also share your phones’ network and sync notifications.
MORE HANDY FEATURES:
System Performance
Optimizes the deterministic latency engine to provide you with a smoother system user experience.
Battery
Adds the Smart Charge mode, reducing battery aging by adapting and preventing the battery from being continuously charged when full. (This feature is enabled by default.)
Huawei Assistant – Today
Adds Huawei Assistant to the home screen, providing smart reminders personalized news, and other content relevant to you.
Apps
Adds the Huawei Browser App, providing you with an all-new web browsing and searching experience.
FULL SECURITY:
Privacy compliance certification:
Obtained the ISO/IEC 27701 certification.
SECURITY:
Integrated Android security patches released in June 2020 for improved system security.

I installed it but WiFi calling was not working so have rolled back via HiSuite. Be interested to see if anyone else has this issue...

Did you lose call recording after upgrade?View attachment 5067027

Winterdune1 said:
I installed it but WiFi calling was not working so have rolled back via HiSuite. Be interested to see if anyone else has this issue...
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WiFi-Calling is working fine for me, i live in Kuwait, so idk.
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Did you lose call recording after upgrade?View attachment 5067027
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Yep, Call Recording vanished for me

Inpain said:
WiFi-Calling is working fine for me, i live in Kuwait, so idk.
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After rolling back I forgot to turn off auto update and the phone updated again overnight - and guess what? WiFi calling is now working fine!

AWFRONT said:
Finally, this morning the update notification landed on my EVR-N29 UK EE Network supplied device. I have not installed as the update is really big but will certainly update later and provide my thoughts on the experience. Primarliy, I am hoping that the battery life and the audio volume will increase for this model.
Link for information about the device:
https://consumer.huawei.com/uk/phones/mate20-x-5g/
Link for information on EMUI 10.1:
https://consumer.huawei.com/en/emui10-1/
EMUI VERSION:
EMUI 10.1 for Huawei Mate 20 X 5G for Europe
EMUI 10.1 version 10.1.0.215
Size: 4.37GB.
HUAWEI MATE 20 X 5G EMUI 10.1 CHANGELOG:
This update introduces EMUI 10.1, designed to deliver a finer-tuned user experience with a higher performance and a more secure system. This operating system, based on distributed technologies, enables you to seamlessly interact across devices and enjoy a diverse range of practical features, including mobile office, in different scenarios. Install this update to facilitate a more intelligent lifestyle.
ALWAYS ON DISPLAY:
Allows the Always On Display clock to change colors dynamically based on the time of day. You can also download more styles from the Themes app.
Adds a three-dimensional clock style option to Always On Display.
FINGERPRINT ANIMATION:
Adds three fingerprint unlock animation options.
MULTI-WINDOW:
Allows you to multitask with ease in Split-screen mode, and send messages using a floating window while watching videos or playing games. Swipe in from the left or right edge of the screen and pause to display the Multi-Window dock. Hold an app icon in the dock and drag it to the side of the screen to enter split-screen view, or touch an app icon to display it in a floating window.
MULTI-DEVICE COLLABORATION
Call answering
Allows you to pick up voice and video calls on your phone from your Huawei laptop.
File Editing
Allows you to directly read and edit files on your phone from your Huawei laptop, and also share your phones’ network and sync notifications.
MORE HANDY FEATURES:
System Performance
Optimizes the deterministic latency engine to provide you with a smoother system user experience.
Battery
Adds the Smart Charge mode, reducing battery aging by adapting and preventing the battery from being continuously charged when full. (This feature is enabled by default.)
Huawei Assistant – Today
Adds Huawei Assistant to the home screen, providing smart reminders personalized news, and other content relevant to you.
Apps
Adds the Huawei Browser App, providing you with an all-new web browsing and searching experience.
FULL SECURITY:
Privacy compliance certification:
Obtained the ISO/IEC 27701 certification.
SECURITY:
Integrated Android security patches released in June 2020 for improved system security.
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Mine is still stuck on 9.1.137 android 9. I look for updates and it always says up to date. Not sure why

Maybe some of this can work for you, good luck
Update software
How to Update software - Check for ::Android:: software updates (backup recommended)
www.helpforsmartphone.com
Huawei Mate 20 X (4G) receiving HarmonyOS 2.0.0.219 firmware update
Huawei Mate 20 X (4G) is receiving a new HarmonyOS 2.0.0.219 software update in China. As per the information, this latest update consists of system optimizations and brings December 2021 HarmonyOS security improvements. It enhances the user experience and boosts the overall performance. By...
www.huaweicentral.com
Why can't I download the update on my phone | HUAWEI Support UK
If you can't download the update package or the download doesn't go beyond 0%, try clearing the System update cache.
consumer.huawei.com
Download Huawei Mate 20 X (EVRL29) official firmware (Rom) EVR-LGRP2-OVS 11.0.0.150 3.97GB (Flash File)
This is official Firmware (ROM) for Huawei Mate 20 X (EVR-L29) EVR-LGRP2-OVS 11.0.0.150 3.97GB for download 49384
huawei-firmware.com
Download Huawei Mate 20 X 10.0.0.190 Firmware Update [Europe] [EVR-L29] - Carbon Tesla
Huawei Mate 20 X (EVR-L29) handsets in Europe can now be updated to firmware version 10.0.0.190. This update is based on Android 10 OS (EMUI 10) and features Android security patch level of March 1, 2020.
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New tablet with 8-inch display/ stylus/ custom Rom

Hello All,
Does anyone know of a relatively new tablet that meets the following spec?
1. released after 2018
2. has a BUILT-IN stylus (I will forget to carry it if it's not built-in)
3. 8-inch display (10 inch gets heavy after a while taking notes)
4. Custom ROM support
So far I can only find Samsung SM-P200 & 205 (Galaxy Tab A 8.0" with S Pen (2019))
meeting the first 3 attributes. But custom ROM support is not available for this device.
Thank you