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Greetings folks!
Bought my International N9005 Note 3 yesterday and I'm extremely surprised of the functionality, battery life, power... everything! I had Xperia Arc S (1.4 GHz single core with 512 MB RAM - a huge step forward) so far, which was about to reach the end of it's time.
First day, I didn't manage to actually empty the battery, even though it got pretty heavy use. Especially by some classmates, who got extremely addicted in Sketchbook application and the opportunities for drawing pictures on it
Got the phone with 4.4.2 on top of it, saving root for later (don't wanna kill KNOX yet). No issues have occurred so far, GPS and all other features work fine, no reboots either, from what I have been reading here.
There are so many features, that it's gonna take ma a few days to actually discover them all
Anyway, great to see so many folks here and active ongoing development.

Welcome to the monster beast of all devices
Someguyfromhell said:
Greetings folks!
Bought my International N9005 Note 3 yesterday and I'm extremely surprised of the functionality, battery life, power... everything! I had Xperia Arc S (1.4 GHz single core with 512 MB RAM - a huge step forward) so far, which was about to reach the end of it's time.
First day, I didn't manage to actually empty the battery, even though it got pretty heavy use. Especially by some classmates, who got extremely addicted in Sketchbook application and the opportunities for drawing pictures on it
Got the phone with 4.4.2 on top of it, saving root for later (don't wanna kill KNOX yet). No issues have occurred so far, GPS and all other features work fine, no reboots either, from what I have been reading here.
There are so many features, that it's gonna take ma a few days to actually discover them all
Anyway, great to see so many folks here and active ongoing development.
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Yeah got mine last week, traded an S4 for it. loving it so far.

welcome to Note 3 community & I'm eager to see your great work ASAP. :silly:

Someguyfromhell said:
Greetings folks!
Bought my International N9005 Note 3 yesterday and I'm extremely surprised of the functionality, battery life, power... everything! I had Xperia Arc S (1.4 GHz single core with 512 MB RAM - a huge step forward) so far, which was about to reach the end of it's time.
First day, I didn't manage to actually empty the battery, even though it got pretty heavy use. Especially by some classmates, who got extremely addicted in Sketchbook application and the opportunities for drawing pictures on it
Got the phone with 4.4.2 on top of it, saving root for later (don't wanna kill KNOX yet). No issues have occurred so far, GPS and all other features work fine, no reboots either, from what I have been reading here.
There are so many features, that it's gonna take ma a few days to actually discover them all
Anyway, great to see so many folks here and active ongoing development.
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Welcome mate and i hope you will enjoy this great (no pun intended) phone

I'm not really much of a developer due to lack of time, mainly focusing on helping fellow community members with guides and tutorials
Anyway, I have a firmware with XEO country code (Poland) at the moment. Attached a screenshot from Phone Info app.
According to sammobile.com, I should be able to receive somewhat newer firmware.
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Refreshed within the phone, also checked via Kies, both claim that I have latest firmware. No region lock. Any ideas about that?
If anyone wonders - No, it is not a clone, S Pen works while hovering as well and all other tests also pass.

Someguyfromhell said:
I'm not really much of a developer due to lack of time, mainly focusing on helping fellow community members with guides and tutorials
Anyway, I have a firmware with XEO country code (Poland) at the moment. Attached a screenshot from Phone Info app.
According to sammobile.com, I should be able to receive somewhat newer firmware.
Refreshed within the phone, also checked via Kies, both claim that I have latest firmware. No region lock. Any ideas about that?
If anyone wonders - No, it is not a clone, S Pen works while hovering as well and all other tests also pass.
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Yes, ND3 is the latest firmware for Poland atm if that is what you mean.

gee2012 said:
Yes, ND3 is the latest firmware for Poland atm if that is what you mean.
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If you look at attached picture you can clearly see its not the latest version on the phone.
That's what he was asking about.

HanZie82 said:
If you look at attached picture you can clearly see its not the latest version on the phone.
That's what he was asking about.
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That`s what it says on Sammobile and what is available for download atm

gee2012 said:
That`s what it says on Sammobile and what is available for download atm
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Do you even read what has been said or dont you understand it?
Because thats what your comment makes me think...

HanZie82 said:
Do you even read what has been said or dont you understand it?
Because thats what your comment makes me think...
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Oeps my bad, didn`t look at the attched screenshot

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Oeps my bad, didn`t look at the attched screenshot
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Ah ok, you almost got me thinking i was seeing things. :laugh:

The problem is, I can't get it . Don't think I dare to download from sammobile and install it. Also, I would prefer keeping my data (so many apps)
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Opo+Google Wallet+McDonald's=Failure. Help?

I apologize if someone else has already discussed this on here, I Googled to no avail, only finding this thread on opo forums: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/anyone-use-tap-and-pay-with-opo-at-mcdonalds.69436/
This is my first phone with Google Wallet tap pay capability, my wife's s4 has it but we never tried it until recently.
The problem is, when we go to McDonald's, my wife's s4 will tap and pay just fine, but my opo will not. It says it detects the reader, prompts me for my pin, but then says "check with cashier, it may have failed". And it fails.
Why?
I did find another thread, discussing the intricacies of NFC, saying that the opo may be using a newer chip than most other phones, but the guy in the opo forums said he used his at Walgreens just fine. I haven't had a chance to test that myself, though I will soon.
Any ideas? Or personal experiences?
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I have been using the GW app on my OP since I purchased in early July. I have used it at CVS, Sports Authority and Macy's without problems. I also have been using my GW app for a few years and you may not have everything you need set up or configured correctly in you Google account. Access the account on a PC and go through all the settings options, maybe the issue is there.

I was the one that started the original thread on the OPO forum that was linked above. I flashed the CM11 nightly and can report that tap-and-pay is now working at McDonalds, so I'm guessing the issue is just a bug in CM11S and should be fixed in a future update. It wasn't just McDonalds that I had problems, though it did consistently fail there. For now, I'm going to continue running the CM11 nightly and continue testing at some of the other places I had problems.

aspherical said:
I was the one that started the original thread on the OPO forum that was linked above. I flashed the CM11 nightly and can report that tap-and-pay is now working at McDonalds, so I'm guessing the issue is just a bug in CM11S and should be fixed in a future update. It wasn't just McDonalds that I had problems, though it did consistently fail there. For now, I'm going to continue running the CM11 nightly and continue testing at some of the other places I had problems.
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Great to hear! I'm not brave enough to flash a nightly, but I'm glad you are! I will wait for the update. Is there a set schedule for official updates?
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beastlykings said:
Great to hear! I'm not brave enough to flash a nightly, but I'm glad you are! I will wait for the update. Is there a set schedule for official updates?
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No set schedule. It's available when it's available. I'm sure you can do it and flash cm 11 if you want to. Xda can help
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I'm on PA and my GW worked fine at CVS today. No issues.
beastlykings, to unlock the boot loader and flash a nightly or something else is easy if you've got your drivers set up.
And you don't need to update every other day if you don't want to. You can use a nightly for months most likely without a problem.

aspherical said:
I was the one that started the original thread on the OPO forum that was linked above. I flashed the CM11 nightly and can report that tap-and-pay is now working at McDonalds, so I'm guessing the issue is just a bug in CM11S and should be fixed in a future update. It wasn't just McDonalds that I had problems, though it did consistently fail there. For now, I'm going to continue running the CM11 nightly and continue testing at some of the other places I had problems.
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I'm having trouble with new as well. just bought some tags and the OnePlus can't read or write to them. weird?
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beastlykings said:
Great to hear! I'm not brave enough to flash a nightly, but I'm glad you are! I will wait for the update. Is there a set schedule for official updates?
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naruto.ninjakid said:
I'm having trouble with new as well. just bought some tags and the OnePlus can't read or write to them. weird?
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My opo won't recognize my 1k mifare classics, my wife's s4 will, but only enough to tell me they aren't supported. Idk what going on, but I think there has been a shift in compatibility for some reason, maybe yours aren't compatible?
Just a thought.
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The mifare 1/2/4/8k chips aren't technically NFC forum compliant, which is why they don't work with most NFC enabled phones.
While some may be able to get a reading using the NXP tag reader app, you won't be able to write to them.
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These are not mifare NFC tags I made sure not to buy those. These are Topaz 512 units?
beastlykings said:
My opo won't recognize my 1k mifare classics, my wife's s4 will, but only enough to tell me they aren't supported. Idk what going on, but I think there has been a shift in compatibility for some reason, maybe yours aren't compatible?
Just a thought.
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TooSlo said:
The mifare 1/2/4/8k chips aren't technically NFC forum compliant, which is why they don't work with most NFC enabled phones.
While some may be able to get a reading using the NXP tag reader app, you won't be able to write to them.
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TooSlo said:
The mifare 1/2/4/8k chips aren't technically NFC forum compliant, which is why they don't work with most NFC enabled phones.
While some may be able to get a reading using the NXP tag reader app, you won't be able to write to them.
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That's good to know. Is there a central source for this kind of information? I trust you, I just want to learn more.
It's sad that they are not compliant, my old note i717 used them fine, now I've got 20 or so junk tags, I guess that's the price you pay for jumping on leading edge before standards are set.
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beastlykings said:
That's good to know. Is there a central source for this kind of information? I trust you, I just want to learn more.
It's sad that they are not compliant, my old note i717 used them fine, now I've got 20 or so junk tags, I guess that's the price you pay for jumping on leading edge before standards are set.
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Sadly there isn't a site that gives a full breakdown on compatibility with each type of NFC tag. Your best bet is to look at a few things and decide on a tag that works from there.
If you're just looking to use something like Tasker or another app to trigger some type of command (turn wi-fi on/off, etc) then something like the NTAG 203 is a good choice. These provide a pretty limited storage space, but are incredibly cheap for the most part.
If you want to store a lot more information, such as a vCard, you may want to look into something like an NXP 216. These have a bit more readable space (888 bytes over the 144(I believe) of the NTAG 203) so you can store information like name/address/phone/email/etc. These work well for everything except photos. Due to the slow read speed of NFC, trying to store even the most basic photo would provide a terrible user experience.
As far as how I know all of this, I worked for a startup here in Seattle that focused on NFC technology. Most of the people who were creating tags to be read with mobile devices used the NTAG 203 chips since you could easily put a shortened URL on them and they were incredibly cheap when bought in bulk. While the Mifare chips work great, and are often times used in things like bus passes, they aren't as friendly to mobile devices. We sold a ton of those, but they were never really for the hobbyist.

TooSlo said:
Sadly there isn't a site that gives a full breakdown on compatibility with each type of NFC tag. Your best bet is to look at a few things and decide on a tag that works from there.
If you're just looking to use something like Tasker or another app to trigger some type of command (turn wi-fi on/off, etc) then something like the NTAG 203 is a good choice. These provide a pretty limited storage space, but are incredibly cheap for the most part.
If you want to store a lot more information, such as a vCard, you may want to look into something like an NXP 216. These have a bit more readable space (888 bytes over the 144(I believe) of the NTAG 203) so you can store information like name/address/phone/email/etc. These work well for everything except photos. Due to the slow read speed of NFC, trying to store even the most basic photo would provide a terrible user experience.
As far as how I know all of this, I worked for a startup here in Seattle that focused on NFC technology. Most of the people who were creating tags to be read with mobile devices used the NTAG 203 chips since you could easily put a shortened URL on them and they were incredibly cheap when bought in bulk. While the Mifare chips work great, and are often times used in things like bus passes, they aren't as friendly to mobile devices. We sold a ton of those, but they were never really for the hobbyist.
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Appreciate the information!
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zephiK said:
No set schedule. It's available when it's available. I'm sure you can do it and flash cm 11 if you want to. Xda can help
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NaterTots said:
I'm on PA and my GW worked fine at CVS today. No issues.
beastlykings, to unlock the boot loader and flash a nightly or something else is easy if you've got your drivers set up.
And you don't need to update every other day if you don't want to. You can use a nightly for months most likely without a problem.
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My biggest problem, (forgive me for not using Google, there is so much speculation out there right now because not everyone has the phone but everyone wants to comment on it) is getting back to stock from the nightly. I'm assuming if I flash a nightly, then when the official update comes out I will need to flash stock?
And how about nightlies, are there updates every night or if I want to flash a new nightly then I need to wipe and reflash the latest version?
And are there issues with using titanium backup or is everything mostly smooth because the changes between versions aren't huge?
Idk. I guess I just want a stable phone for a while but I keep running into bugs on stock. But I don't want MORE bugs on nightly. I love my opo, but Google navigation voice starts quiet and then ramps up to loud every time it talks to me. Pandora won't play through the headphone jack unless I restart the phone with them plugged in. Plus a number of other little things I can't think of currently.
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So I got the 30O update, and now McDonald's tap pay isn't working even a little bit. With my phone screen on and waiting, no matter what I do it won't even register that I attempted to make a payment. It's like the phone and the terminal aren't communicating at all.
I've called Google and squared away my account, everything is fine and set up properly on their end and my end.
I only tried it a half dozen times before switching to my card, I didn't want to hold up the line.
Anybody else have problems with the update and tap pay?
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Well you have to keep in mind that the stock ROM on the OPO is a "custom" ROM. Its pretty much CM 11S with some special apps such as the 11S lock screen AudioFX. It seems like you're at a dead end when it comes to Google Wallet payments. Why not just flash a custom ROM and see if the problem still occurs?
Titanium Backup works perfectly fine, no problems what so ever. Is your "headphone" a headset? (a microphone included).
And this seems silly but when you go into settings -> Tap and pay ........ you do see google wallet there and it is selected with the circle, correct?

zephiK said:
Well you have to keep in mind that the stock ROM on the OPO is a "custom" ROM. Its pretty much CM 11S with some special apps such as the 11S lock screen AudioFX. It seems like you're at a dead end when it comes to Google Wallet payments. Why not just flash a custom ROM and see if the problem still occurs?
Titanium Backup works perfectly fine, no problems what so ever. Is your "headphone" a headset? (a microphone included).
And this seems silly but when you go into settings -> Tap and pay ........ you do see google wallet there and it is selected with the circle, correct?
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While this is true, I know it's still a custom rom, but it should be different than just flashing cm11 on any old phone. This is cm11s, the software is tuned specifically to run on this hardware, and this is what I paid for.
I'm not mad, and I'm not making a big issue, I understand that all devices have bugs, even Samsung and Apple etc etc have bugs.
But it's not wrong for me to expect a certain valuable, common, feature, to function as intended. I'm willing to do a little workaround here or there until it is fixed in the next update, but it should've been fixed in this update, no? Didn't someone say it wasn't working on 25, but was working on the nightlies, so why isn't it working in 30?
Or is it working on 30 for others and just not me?
These are the questions I'm hoping someone can help me answer.
Today I actually got the phone to recognize the reader, but only once, and it was the same problem as before, "transaction may have failed, ask cashier".
And yes I have tap and pay enabled in the settings, but thank you for the suggestion, maybe I am just missing something simple? Nfc is on and working with connections to other phones, my account is verified I can send money to people manually, and it says tap and pay ready in Google wallet.
Anyone any ideas?
Edit: speaking of stupid reasons I could have missed, I am rooted, does that cause a problem? Google security issue making it not work? Anybody out there using tap and pay while rooted?
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I had the same problem with my Nexus 5. I cleared all the days in the app, uninstalled, reinstalled and set back up. It's worked fine ever since.

DualSportDad said:
I had the same problem with my Nexus 5. I cleared all the days in the app, uninstalled, reinstalled and set back up. It's worked fine ever since.
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Days, you mean data? Cache? I can do that, I will give it a try, thanks!
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beastlykings said:
Days, you mean data? Cache? I can do that, I will give it a try, thanks!
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Yes. Do that. Then uninstall the app then reinstall from play store and set up.

Xiaomi BlackShark water cooling phone

Can't find a spot to post this. Since Mix 2s is new, I suppose this is the right spot?
Anyway, here's the new phone
https://www.mi.com/blackshark/
It's about USD$480 for 8/128GB Snapdragon 845.
Comes with water cooling!
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It's USD$480 for the 6/64GB version/

Yesterday I went to the release conference in Beijing, China. It's said that it's designed for games, but there's some serious problems on GPU control.
GPU performance is seriously limited for having longer battery life and better CPU performance, which is because some really popular Chinese games demands more CPU performance rather than GPU performance.
Photo quality is terrible, comparing to other phones you can get today.
The ROM,"Joy UI",is actually form Coolpad, and you can not get the bootloader unlocked officially.That is especially unfriendly to a developer.
(sorry for my poor English)

Edward Liu said:
Yesterday I went to the release conference in Beijing, China. It's said that it's designed for games, but there's some serious problems on GPU control.
GPU performance is seriously limited for having longer battery life and better CPU performance, which is because some really popular Chinese games demands more CPU performance rather than GPU performance.
Photo quality is terrible, comparing to other phones you can get today.
The ROM,"Joy UI",is actually form Coolpad, and you can not get the bootloader unlocked officially.That is especially unfriendly to a developer.
(sorry for my poor English)
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Oh my, it wouldn't be very useful if the bootloader cannot be unlocked. I guess it's still a good try for Xiaomi given their track record of providing value for money hardware.
Thanks for the background and your English is fine :good:

Hi Guys ..
So, what do you advise buy it or not. Moreover, can someone tell if there will be a custom ROMs or not?!!
Thanks.

Mulham82 said:
Hi Guys ..
So, what do you advise buy it or not. Moreover, can someone tell if there will be a custom ROMs or not?!!
Thanks.
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I wouldn't buy it. It's ugly as hell, there are other comparable phones for nearly the same price. The bootloader is as far as I know not unlockable -> no custom Roms and if it is unlockable nearly noone outside China will buy that phone -> no developers for custom Roms

Mine arrived today. Ask any questions you like!

limestar said:
Mine arrived today. Ask any questions you like!
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哟，是吗？
没想到国外有人买黑鲨了
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Mine arrived today. Ask any questions you like!
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GMS installing might be a problem.
No Chinese Android phone has GMS pre-installed.
We have to use a VPN to visit Google and GMS installed ourselves. This phone cannot be rooted up to now. So how you solve this problem?

Edward Liu said:
哟，是吗？
没想到国外有人买黑鲨了
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GMS installing might be a problem.
No Chinese Android phone has GMS pre-installed.
We have to use a VPN to visit Google and GMS installed ourselves. This phone cannot be rooted up to now. So how you solve this problem?
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Don't use Chinese,please.GMS can be installed without root.

Edward Liu said:
哟，是吗？
没想到国外有人买黑鲨了
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GMS installing might be a problem.
No Chinese Android phone has GMS pre-installed.
We have to use a VPN to visit Google and GMS installed ourselves. This phone cannot be rooted up to now. So how you solve this problem?
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Hi I got it working no problems. If you use the individual install files from the Mi Mix 2S MIUI forum everything works. Using the V2 or V3 google installer and calendar won't work.

Edward Liu said:
The ROM,"Joy UI",is actually form Coolpad, and you can not get the bootloader unlocked officially.That is especially unfriendly to a developer.
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I think it will be possible, because there's an OEM unlocking switch in the developer options, literally stating it allows the bootloader to be unlocked.
Also, when I boot by pressing power and both volume buttons, releasing only power when the S logo shows up, he goes to a black screen, from which he only boots when you keep the power button alone pressed for a good 5 seconds, similar to a dowload mode.
Could it be it has a download mode with black display?

You can't unlock the bootloader, because you don't know where to start. Nobody tried to unlock newer Xiaomis the unofficial way. It is way to complicated and the Black Shark is of no interest to people outside of china.
But, if there is anybody out there, i'm glad to help, as i do own a Black Shark myself.

Cooling system
limestar said:
Mine arrived today. Ask any questions you like!
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I'd like to know about the cooling system, does it really cool well in heavy gaming? Do you feel the difference?

Could someone, please, upload rom dump of "Black shark" ?

nule4 said:
Could someone, please, upload rom dump of "Black shark" ?
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I have one, if you tell me how to do that I will

Water cooling makes no difference at all: same throttling like my mix 2s. No rom dump possible as fastboot is not working properly. Device will not be detected.
Will sell it asap.

limestar said:
Hi I got it working no problems. If you use the individual install files from the Mi Mix 2S MIUI forum everything works. Using the V2 or V3 google installer and calendar won't work.
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@limestar
My Black Shark will be delivering tomorrow & I'm not sure regarding Google Services being pre-installed.
I found this on a Google Search,is this what you're recommending:
http://en.miui.com/thread-2408868-1-1.html
If you have something else,could you post the link to it?
Thank you.

ive mine for a couple of days now...i jump from huawei M10 pro to this BS and notice the different in term of performance obviously...for the temp BS performing well under load on pubg with highest setting compared to M10 pro with avg temp 70c on gamemode and keep prompt overheating each time played...BS are comfortable in hand coz it have thick bezel both side compare to the device have thin bezel all around make ur hand less fatigue on gaming...but the case feel cheap coz might easily break for some area...

Anyone has a way to unlock bootloader Black Shark yet?
I'm really sad because Xiaomi doesn't concern about Black Shark's users

baobeatmaker said:
Anyone has a way to unlock bootloader Black Shark yet?
I'm really sad because Xiaomi doesn't concern about Black Shark's users
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Xiaomi's Black Shark is aimed at gamers specifically, not developers and custom ROM enthusiasts, I don't think it's a case of they don't care I think it's just intended for gaming, nothing more...

Updates global stable version .

it is from March that I no longer receive updates for the global version, I am at 10.3.1.0. have they already left the device? should I install another rom? are there any hopes for widevine certification l1?
Tnks.

Matteomario said:
it is from March that I no longer receive updates for the global version, I am at 10.3.1.0. have they already left the device? should I install another rom? are there any hopes for widevine certification l1?
Tnks.
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I was wondering the same thing.

tiberiumsun007 said:
I was wondering the same thing.
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Me too

This will be the first and last Xiaomi I own; of that I am certain.

5g variant got update yesterday so maybe our Perseus will be updated in a few days too... At least I hope.

croques said:
This will be the first and last Xiaomi I own; of that I am certain.
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I am not disappointed in performance, and camera is also good & also installed gcam. They also promised android Q. So, it is not that bad . Although, I was thinking of Oneplus next time because they are known for their software support.

croques said:
This will be the first and last Xiaomi I own; of that I am certain.
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Why's that? Just because of infrequent updates?

Its OK ... but
tiberiumsun007 said:
I am not disappointed in performance, and camera is also good & also installed gcam. They also promised android Q. So, it is not that bad . Although, I was thinking of Oneplus next time because they are known for their software support.
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Why's that? Just because of infrequent updates?
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No, performance is fine. The camera is brilliant with the modded camera app. I find all the Xiaomi stuff littering the phone a nuisance although I have removed as much as I can without rooting. (I used to root every phone I owned but need flawless Google Pay - always - and don't want to play whack-a-mole with Google).
I resisted setting up a Xiaomi account - why would I have an account with a phone manufacturer? I'm not really a fan of Mui but with a Google Pixel Launcher it's good enough but I am finding the lack of proper notifications on email less than stellar. I like the Xi charging; OnePlus have never done this. Google's Nexus 4 - I think - did and I was hooked from then on.
There are two issues with Xiaomi really. The over riding issue is security. In my mind timely security updates are essential for any phone manufacturer wanting to be taken seriously. And the second is all the data collection that Xiaomi try to do on me; they seem me as a legitimate subject to data mine and advertise to; I'm not.
So I was hoping the Pixel 4 might finally get Google back on to the straight and narrow that the Nexus phones found. Alas no; it seems the Pixel 4 are stylisticly dead in the water with chin and forehead size bezels as gross as they are. So it looks as if I'll be returning to the OnePlus fold if they can master a through-the-screen camera and finger print scanner on the back where it should be.
I had been running a OnePlus since the the days of the One and went to 3, 5 and 6. I like OnePlus. Reasonable performance; regular updates and close to pure Android.
But liking a phone (why do we still call it a phone - its so much more?) liking a phone is very personal and your mileage will vary from mine.

Any new information about the new update?

New update pushed out. Dark mode now available in stable.

Full rom 10.3.2.0
http://bigota.d.miui.com/V10.3.2.0.PEEMIXM/miui_MIMIX3Global_V10.3.2.0.PEEMIXM_cf84891114_9.0.zip

Dark more available but themes don't work correctly when turned on.

Is there a full fastboot image available for the latest version?

GAPPS

If I were to get my hands on one, would I be able to put GAPPS on it?
Serious question... Can't live with a phone without GAPPS.
Any serious thoughts about this?

IMO xiaomi.eu will probably have a ROM for this phone and it will include everything you need.

xchatter said:
IMO xiaomi.eu will probably have a ROM for this phone and it will include everything you need.
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Thank you for responding. Nothing listed there yet (although, my account registration was considered spam, so I cannot see more than then the basics and cannot interact yet on that site). Is it generally the case that a new Xiaomi phone gets an EU rom even if it is not sold to their market? It is so tempting, to go the xiaomi route, I wish the oneplus 8Tpro was out right now, as I am in the market for a phone in the next two weeks ... not in October. Not sure if I could stomach having an outdated phone after a month or so... Generally, it is nice to have new tech be top shelf for at least a few months, right?
Hmmm - Food for thought.

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Thank you for responding. Nothing listed there yet (although, my account registration was considered spam, so I cannot see more than then the basics and cannot interact yet on that site). Is it generally the case that a new Xiaomi phone gets an EU rom even if it is not sold to their market? It is so tempting, to go the xiaomi route, I wish the oneplus 8Tpro was out right now, as I am in the market for a phone in the next two weeks ... not in October. Not sure if I could stomach having an outdated phone after a month or so... Generally, it is nice to have new tech be top shelf for at least a few months, right?
Hmmm - Food for thought.
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Just get whatever you like.
Phones won't stop coming out. Till the end of the year there will be new Huawei, new Pixel, new OnePlus, probably new Oppo.... and then the circle starts all over again.

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If I were to get my hands on one, would I be able to put GAPPS on it?
Serious question... Can't live with a phone without GAPPS.
Any serious thoughts about this?
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This is how I have done it on Mi 9 Transparent Edition. Don't see why it wont be the same.
https://itigic.com/install-play-store-on-xiaomi-phones-miui-10-11/

Yes, it seems that gaps is easily placed on the device. Source:
Thank you for the response.
And while it would be great to have the best camera... I probably need to buy the oneplus 8 pro. I've gone a long time without active Google assistant, closed bootloader, and (as a non Mandarin user) the annoyance of Chinese menus/ecosystem within an 'English' setting. Also, been without an active community of English using Android users for some time with this Huawei I'm using.
Want to grab a phone next week... And Xiaomi looks like it is using that impossibly annoying hungry marketing technique where the sell a very limited number of phones at a certain time each day. I got 'lucky' buying my Samsung 8 with that type of annoying system on the first day or two, but..... So annoying when you're a bit slow at Chinese and you're actually competing to buy a product. So... Actually... Competing to spend money seems odd too.
Ok. One plus is well over a thousand RMB cheaper where I am too. Lastly, Think I'll enjoy the software experience more and hopefully won't notice the camera too much. Hoping that the October release of 8t Pro will not be too much of a massive upgrade and have me annoyed either
To those who grab the Xiaomi ten Ultra. Enjoy and hope to read some reviews soon.

s327374 said:
Yes, it seems that gaps is easily placed on the device. Source:
Thank you for the response.
And while it would be great to have the best camera... I probably need to buy the oneplus 8 pro. I've gone a long time without active Google assistant, closed bootloader, and (as a non Mandarin user) the annoyance of Chinese menus/ecosystem within an 'English' setting. Also, been without an active community of English using Android users for some time with this Huawei I'm using.
Want to grab a phone next week... And Xiaomi looks like it is using that impossibly annoying hungry marketing technique where the sell a very limited number of phones at a certain time each day. I got 'lucky' buying my Samsung 8 with that type of annoying system on the first day or two, but..... So annoying when you're a bit slow at Chinese and you're actually competing to buy a product. So... Actually... Competing to spend money seems odd too.
Ok. One plus is well over a thousand RMB cheaper where I am too. Lastly, Think I'll enjoy the software experience more and hopefully won't notice the camera too much. Hoping that the October release of 8t Pro will not be too much of a massive upgrade and have me annoyed either
To those who grab the Xiaomi ten Ultra. Enjoy and hope to read some reviews soon.
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Just to give you a heads up -> Xiaomi has a very large and active English community. All phones are easily unlocked and the community have been doing a great job to provide debloated English roms no matter if you buy a Chinese or global variant.
OP 8 Pro is a great device too.

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Just to give you a heads up -> Xiaomi has a very large and active English community. All phones are easily unlocked and the community have been doing a great job to provide debloated English roms no matter if you buy a Chinese or global variant.
OP 8 Pro is a great device too.
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Thank you for your reply. I have always enjoyed tinkering with Xiaomi products and ROMS. I have also often assisted non-tech interested colleagues to put GAPPs on or re-Rom to global over the years I have lived in China. Although it did get a little challenging for a period of a year not too long ago. I actually really love what they do ... and funnily I can see about half a dozen Xiaomi smart devices in the room I am typing from at home right now. Man, I love their door lock!!!! Ha.
I was really going to wait until 21 August 10 am and try to pick one up, then if not, get the Oneplus... but decided against it. A few reasons. I just realised that even if I picked up the way more expensive Samsung Ultra, I am missing out on some Google aspects that I crave and have craved for many years (see my phone history in sig). Even the Global ROMs (no guarantee one will appear for this China-only variant) have trouble using Hey Google natively in my experience - (could be wrong on that one)
Even so, have gone with the Oneplus pro purchase just now and that phone will arrive tomorrow. Would have arrived tonight if I had ordered 10 minutes earlier. lol - nothing like Chinese delivery systems I suppose. Or at least compared to Aus.
Another couple of things did sway me. Xiaomi phones are great but they honestly do sometimes go overboard with their claims. I can't be sure about this device's battery life longevity. Especially considering their claims of 23 minutes for full charge look to be false ( I know still the quickest). I remember their camera claim for 108 Megapixel etc fell short of being a top-line camera despite the hype. Often seem to use an angle that disguises a hidden flaw. Anyway, This understanding, combined with my full google assistant want, means I will miss out on it. Maybe when my wife updates her phone and they are more readily available (seriously, trying to compete with a billion people to purchase an online product when you're hampered by language constraints suck), I can switch her to this 10 Ultra (she takes waaaay better photos than me anyway).
Until then, Look forward to reading more about people's 10 Ultra as time goes by. Seems this is my last post in this forum thread ofor the Ultra for now.
Cheers!

Graphene battery is surely the future.

You can install the Play Store from the built in Mi App Store, then install all the Google apps you want from there.

Worth it. Best phone
I came from note 20 ultra and let me tell you this is much more comfortable in hands. Playstore is just one download away from having everything. I'm alsomuch happier using this phone tbh and manage to get back 500usd.

I got the Ultra yesterday, i can see that most Google stuffs work and i can set them up, no issues with location.
BUT here's what's not working:
1. Google Backup and Restore, stuck at waiting for backup.
2. Google Location History, i saw the option yesterday in settings, but it was greyed out, somehow after a reboot, the option disappear. Can't turn it on no matter where i try it from.
I am having am SOT of 5h 10m with about 20% power left.

Anyone else got the Mi 10 Ultra, got Google Location History working?
Mine the option is missing in Settings, and it's disabled or permanently off in Google account / maps.
Permanently off:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Option missing:
Just want to be sure it's not my ROM issue, lazy to reset and wipe cache to try again.

I've seen it talked about before on chinese roms and even Xiaomi devices,. I don't use it myself so unsure of a fix sorry but I did check my phone and it's exactly the same as yours looks

Sorry to hijack this thread. I just bought the mi 10 ultra. I installed playstore and all Google apps. But I realized that playstore is asking me to pay for apps I had previously purchased, even though I used the same account to log in. Anybody encountered this or know the solution?

Honestly start the unlock process and think about moving to xiaomi.eu
I didn't have that problem but a few Google things didn't work on stock. That's a really common issue though, I'd recommend googling it and trying what comes up, it's an extremely common issue with Google play services

phibersg said:
Anyone else got the Mi 10 Ultra, got Google Location History working?
Mine the option is missing in Settings, and it's disabled or permanently off in Google account / maps.
Permanently off:
Option missing:
Just want to be sure it's not my ROM issue, lazy to reset and wipe cache to try again.
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Works just fine on EU ROM, see screenshot attached from today.

Sathelp said:
Works just fine on EU ROM, see screenshot attached from today.
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Yes of course it'll work on EU ROM, my problem is with the stock rom.
I do not want to risk SafetyNet and Widevine L1 by unlocking..

Why would you unlock the phone then if you are staying on the stock Chinese ROM? If you're not going to flash, then don't unlock.

phibersg said:
Yes of course it'll work on EU ROM, my problem is with the stock rom.
I do not want to risk SafetyNet and Widevine L1 by unlocking..
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Widevine is level L1 on the .EU rom - so you're fine there. As for SafetyNet: all banking apps, government authorization apps and such work just fine on the unlocked - but NOT rooted - .EU rom.
So I don't see the problem.