Will s10e, s10, s10+ have cross-device development? - Samsung Galaxy S10e Questions & Answers

So, Though I'm not a developer, If the tradition follows, s10 and s10+ can and will have cross-device development.
My question is, will s10e be in the cross-device development family?
If not, why? Also, if we still can't tell, with what kind of info will we be able to tell?
BTW, I'm not asking of ETA or anything, just being curious.
Since having future dev support is critical for long-term usage...

I would not buy an S10 if aosp based roms was my priority, S9 non TW rom development is dead, same will most likely be for S10.

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Samsung Galaxy S - the dev community

This might not belong here and should perhaps go in the Galaxy S subforum but I would like to get the opinions of more than just those who have the phone in general.
I am wondering what people think will happen regarding the hacker and dev community with regards to the Samsung Galaxy S. Samsung have put in a good deal of effort to the market the phone. They might even be embracing the hacker community, leaving the phone relatively easy to root when compared to previous Samsung phones. This suggests that they have realised the benefits that come with a good dev community behind their phone and are trying to pull people towards it.
The question is - will the community take the bait? Currently the community favours phones from rival companies such as the HTC Desire. Generally, the subforums for the Desire are filled with new releases while the Samsung Galaxy S' subforums are still relatively empty. Do you think people slowly gravitate towards the new Galaxy S and its new hardware and develop as many apps as they have been for the Desire and other HTC phones before it?
The reason I am asking this question is because I am going to buy a new phone at the end of August and am picking between the Desire and the Galaxy S. I really like the new hardware on the Samsung but am worried that if the community doesn't embrace the Galaxy S, updates will stop coming (Samsung are notorious for not supporting their own phones for very long). If people think devs will slowly move to the Samsung Galaxy S, I will almost certainly get that phone. If not, then I might stick to the Desire.

[Discussion] Let's talk Cyanogenmod & how u can help

The title is self explanatory and to those newcomers who need an introduction or a basic understanding about Cyanogenmod (CM for short), here it is:
CyanogenMod is an aftermarket firmware based on the open-source Android operating system.
The Galaxy S7 Edge | S7 are great smartphones and they have really taken over the market in many ways but I'm here to talk about now and the future of these devices.
Samsung has been pushing updates at a stable rate so far and security has never been so much tighter with these monthly patches.
However after at least 18 months both of these devices will no longer receive software updates. And software is what helps keep these devices going on the long run.
End-of-life dates for the S7 Edge | S7 are already set privately by Sammy and ready to be applied in the near future.
Cyanogenmod is the gateway of... let the term for now be: "afteruse".
CM being the gateway of afteruse can boost the lifetime of these devices since they really deserve more time with their owners.
If you wish contributing in any way to help the message be heard then by all means visit this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/dev-request-cyanogenmod-13-g935f-t3382412
Fevax is willing to port Cyanogenmod 13 for the Galaxy S7 Edge G935F and when a working build is up and ready he will start to port it for the Flat S7 G930F. A pledge is already being taken place at the above link and if you wish to invest for a working port then please do so it would mean a lot to the community. If you'd like to test the software at its early alpha stages your most welcome just visit the link and comment your intention.
As a side note this is a discussion thread so feel free to comment down below concerning what I've posted above or post about the subject at hand and your feelings from it and towards it.
Thank you and have a nice day.
EDIT: THE ORIGINAL CYANOGENMOD 13 DISCUSSION THREAD BY Fevax MENTIONED IN THE LINK ABOVE IS CLOSED.
I'm not quite sure what you are trying to do with this thread and what is different to the original thread you linked ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/dev-request-cyanogenmod-13-g935f-t3382412
sawdoctor said:
I'm not quite sure what you are trying to do with this thread and what is different to the original thread you linked ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/dev-request-cyanogenmod-13-g935f-t3382412
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I'm pretty much explaining why and how developing Cyanogenmod for the Galaxy S7 Edge | S7 can be fruitful. To attract owners and users of these devices and increase the popularity of the main thread by providing it's means and how necessary or important it is.
Also the developer might just appreciate helpful hands here and there with donations and alpha testers on the table of the development.
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Why aren't the S8 and S8+ forums merged on XDA?

I find it incredibly annoying and cumbersome to go through 2 different forums to view issues/features/apps of the S8 and S8+ since 99% of the posts can pertain to either phone.
I think the Combined S8 Forums should look like this:
S8/S8+ Questions and Answers
S8/S8+ Guides, News, and Discussions
S8/S8+ Themes, Apps, and Mods
S8/S8+ Accessories
Exynos S8 Roms, Kernels, and Development
Exynos S8+ Roms, Kernels, and Development
VZW S8/S8+ Roms, Kernels, and Development
ATT S8/S8+ Roms, Kernels, and Development
Tmo S8/S8+ Roms, Kernels, and Development
Sprint S8/S8+ Roms, Kernels, and Development
You are cutting THIRTY forums down to TEN.
I have the S8 and if I didn't go through the S8+ forums, I would've missed on some great tips and vice versa. For example, I wouldn't have found out about Adhell or Disconnect Pro if I was just browsing the S8+ forums, since it was posted on the S8 forum. Another example is my magnetic wireless charging mod for the S7 edge, which works on both the S7 edge or S7 and any other android phone with wireless charging. If I don't post it in the regular s7 forum, people who don't have the s7 edge and do not browse the s7 edge forum will likely miss out on this. If I choose to remake this guide for the S8, should I just post it in the S8 forums or also the S8+ forums?
Does everything read through both forums? Instead of going through 4 combined forums (Q&A, General, Apps, Accessories), you have to read through 8. That's really a waste of time and why should app devs or accessory creators manage TWO threads where the same question is asked over and over when it was likely asked/answered in the other thread?
If something is phone specific, people usually mention it in the title anyways.
That's like saying merge pixel and pixel XL forum, they r still different phones imo, can you imagine a battery life thread mixed with both s8 sd s8 exynos s8+ sd s8+ exynos ?
Too late now...you should have asked the Admin back in February....
galaxys said:
Too late now...you should have asked the Admin back in February....
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Funny you should say that, I DID ask them in March when both forums were still pretty empty, and they refused.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=71656329#post71656329
Ever since then, all I have seen is duplicate threads in both forums, people getting irritated by having to trawl through 2 sets of forums when 95% of the threads apply to BOTH devices and people getting confused and posting in the wrong forum.....I saw it coming, tried to tell them, and they wouldn't listen to me.
Shuthefrontdoor said:
That's like saying merge pixel and pixel XL forum, they r still different phones imo, can you imagine a battery life thread mixed with both s8 sd s8 exynos s8+ sd s8+ exynos
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You already have battery life threads with people mixing the devices, pretty much all of em. I've already had this argument with people before. If it was ONE forum and TWO threads, people would be much more likely to post in the correct one since they will be right there. The way it is now people will be posting in the wrong one through a combination of confusion over what forum they are currently in, and not being bothered to navigate to the other forum and search for the battery thread in that one.
The hardware is basically identical except for battery size, almost every thread is going to apply to both devices, so instead of having 90% of the threads duplicated in 2 forums, splitting the knowledge in half and forcing people to have to trawl through 2 sets of forums, they could have one set of forums and maybe there will be a few device specific threads in them for things like battery life. You can have a sub forum for each device for firmwares, but all the Q&A and general guides and discussion and accessories forums should be a single set for both devices.
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ssgunner20 said:
Thats the most stupid thing ive heard. Why would you want that. They are not the same phone.
Its like me saying on a jeep forum to merge the 3.6 section with the 5.7 and 6.2. Yes its the same shell but differe t vehicle. I dont wanna here about tbe 5.7 or 3.6 if im looking for info on tbe 6.2... catch my drift!
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Are you really that thick? it's the exact opposite of that. its a different shell with the exact same insides! (same engine, same stereo, same pedals, same seats, same satnav, same steering wheel, just a slightly bigger fuel tank in one of them). Jesus there's some dimwits on here.
ewokuk said:
The hardware is basically identical except for battery size, almost every thread is going to apply to both devices, so instead of having 90% of the threads duplicated in 2 forums, splitting the knowledge in half and forcing people to have to trawl through 2 sets of forums, they could have one set of forums
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Except that even in a single forum, most major topics already get spread across a half dozen redundant threads. And within each thread, once it exceeds a single page, most of the posts just repeat what was said earlier, including misinformation that was previously corrected. So the number of redundant forums doesn't really matter much.
ranova said:
I find it incredibly annoying and cumbersome to go through 2 different forums to view issues/features/apps of the S8 and S8+ since 99% of the posts can pertain to either phone.
I have the S8 and if I didn't go through the S8+ forums, I would've missed on some great tips and vice versa. At the very least, every forum except the "roms, kernels, recoveries" should be merged between the two.
If something is phone specific, people usually mention it in the title anyways.
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I agree, Android Central recognized this a month or two ago and merged them. It is much better.
It is easy to point out examples where this would not make sense, but you must ignore the incredible inconvenience of navigating back and forth to even present the argument. The reality is that the s8 and + are remarkably similar.
Based on this logic, we should also have separate forums for snapdragon and exynos devices.
robber said:
I agree, Android Central recognized this a month or two ago and merged them. It is much better.
It is easy to point out examples where this would not make sense, but you must ignore the incredible inconvenience of navigating back and forth to even present the argument. The reality is that the s8 and + are remarkably similar.
Based on this logic, we should also have separate forums for snapdragon and exynos devices.
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well put. Im surprised the poll is pretty even. Do people want them separated just because they think their S8 variant is better than the other?
They are both literally the same, sans display, battery, and now UFS storage (for certain variants). Yes, the exynos version has root and will likely get better rom support, but every other forum (Q&A, Apps, Accessories, General, etc) pertain to both phones. Itd even be better if the admins made the forums separate for the Exynos and the Snapdragon variants since theres more of a difference there than s8 vs s8+. Between the name calling and thought process behind this, I really question a bunch of you. I didnt have a Pixel but the regular and XL forums should've been merged also.
Also, who cares about battery threads. They are mostly useless, and its not difficult to state what s8 you have.
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Oh god, cry me a river...
So maybe samsung should just get rid of the two names and call em s8 regardless of screen sizes, battery...etc.
Think about it, if you take a moment to actually think, what your asking is pointless because look at the other sub-sections this forum has based on carriers. What makes you think people from verizon want to see info from at&t or Tmo? I think every memeber has a right to choose to view what section or sub-sections they choose to view rather than having it forced down their throats.
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No, carrier variants and Rom/development forums should still keep their respective forums. I've updated the OP with what I would suggest for forum merging. I'm saying that the Q&A, Guides/news/discussion, Themes/apps/mods, and accessories (yes even this, if theres a case made for the s8+, there likely is one for the S8 as well) forums should be merged as they all basically pertain to either phone. Your car analogy doesn't work here since cars are extremely more complicated when the engine, trim level, packages are different when it comes to modding, accessories, questions, etc. The s8 and s8+ are basically the same sans the screen size and battery size; it is A LOT more simpler and clear cut than cars when it comes to mods, apps, accessories, etc. The Pixel and Pixel XL should've had those specific forums merged as well.
Nothing is forced down your throat, what you and others are missing is shared knowledge as another user pointed out. I wouldn't have found out about Adhell or Disconnect Pro if I was just browsing the S8+ forums, since it was posted on the S8 forum. Another example is my magnetic wireless charging mod for the S7 edge, which works on both the S7 edge or S7 and any other android phone with wireless charging. If I don't post it in the regular s7 forum, people who don't have the s7 edge and do not browse the s7 edge forum will likely miss out on this. If I choose to remake this guide for the S8, should I just post it in the S8 forums or also the S8+ forums? Does everything read through both forums? Instead of going through 4 combined forums (Q&A, General, Apps, Accessories), you have to read through 8. That's really a waste of time and why should app devs or accessory creators manage TWO threads where the same question is asked over and over when it was likely asked/answered in the other thread?
Once you learn what efficiency and simplicity is, it will make sense. What has been done in the past is not necessary the best way of doing it. Learn from the mistakes and fix it. It amazes me that people would rather separate forums for each different sized phones model (s8+/s8, s7edge/s7, pixel/pixel XL). One is not better than the other, we should join forces and share knowledge, tips, questions, etc.
ssgunner20 said:
Oh god, cry me a river...
So maybe samsung should just get rid of the two names and call em s8 regardless of screen sizes, battery...etc.
Think about it, if you take a moment to actually think, what your asking is pointless because look at the other sub-sections this forum has based on carriers. What makes you think people from verizon want to see info from at&t or Tmo? I think every memeber has a right to choose to view what section or sub-sections they choose to view rather than having it forced down their throats.
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Thread cleaned up and closed.
There is no need to call out names, it? Kindly respect each other other and their opinions.
Secondly, this is not a place to make your request of the centralized forum. You can take it here [All XDA Members] Requests to Moderators and Admins or New device forum requests.
I wouldn't comment on the behalf of admin. But I am pretty sure the admins have a pretty good reason to create separate forums. And they would be glad to address your concern.
Good luck!
Regards
Vatsal,
Forum Moderator.

S7 Pure vs S8 Port vs AOSP, now even Xposed and Note 8 apps

I understand that this is a development forum but since it's strictly about Exynos I posted here.
There has been great work regarding development for this awesome device. I've now tried many options from many different developers ... and to be honest its become a little confusing as to what is best and why. Realizing there is a lot of personal preference:
Can we have some users chime in (even if this thread is moved) especially for newer users what they prefer and more importantly why ... options, speed, battery, ease of use, etc
Should be posted in General Discussion.
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Should be posted in General Discussion.
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Thank you and I understand your opinion but since the majority of Exynos users cone to this forum I can promise it won't have any value of posted there.
It may get moved but I can assure you nobody will even look at it there
It's all good, so try it all. If you don't want to try it, you shouldn't be on xda(mostly the wrong section),just stick to what Samsung gave you originally.
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jcrompton said:
There has been great work regarding development for this awesome device. I've now tried many options from many different developers ... and to be honest its become a little confusing as to what is best and why. Realizing there is a lot of personal preference
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I completely understand why people would ask the question. I simply don't have the time to try all the ROMs. Setting one up to have it the way I like takes ~2 hours. This also doesn't take into account research into the ROM and troubleshooting issues (both user and ROM related) that come up - I need my phone to be useful.
Generally, S7/S7 Edge based ROMs are most stable, S8 and Note 8 ports have newest Samsung features, AOSP is Nexus and Pixel like and can have newest Android features (but lose Samsung features). All of them can have many great features and good performance depending on how they are made.
I personally never understood the hype about ports (generally heavier, less stable and new features kinda gimicky) and AOSP ROMs (less stable, why did I get a Samsung to have it run AOSP?). But that's just my opinion.
The above paragraph is however just a generalisation and it is obviously much more complicated than that. One would need to test and compare individual ROMs on different areas to get a good comparison on what is currently offered by the XDA developers. If anyone has tested multiple, then please post up comparison reviews. I think It would be a very useful guide. As readers can probably tell, I'm probably not the best person for the job.

Why Are Snapdragons Users So Selfish

No one even cared to share an update.zip file for s10e g970u1 users such a shame unlike the exynos forums. Many others like me have been dying to get a taste of one ui 3.0 but those who can register of the beta are so selfish. No discussion whatsoever.

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