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Xda Orbit Advice

Hi All,
New member (to state the obvious). Sorry if this is in the wrong place.
Will try to cut a long story short.
The company I work for has aquired the book from a competitor that fell victim to the current financial downturn in the UK.
We have been doing sell offs from various sites around the county.
At one of the sites I found 3 Xda Orbits with all the bits, I assume they belonged to the staff that worked there. They worked for about 3 weeks then suddeny they lost the phone service yesterday. After near 24 hours of reading mostly on here I have come to the following.
1. the bill has not been paid so the phones are suspended.
2. They have been reported lost or stolen and have been blocked.
I don't need the devices as phones as I have a blackberry for work.
I can however make use of one or all as access points on my home network for controlling my media pc and doing away with the wireless keyboard and mouse and need for my laptop when I am in other rooms.
Can you guys please advise me on the following.
If the handsets have been reported lost or stolen do I run the risk of trouble by keeping hold of them. (under the terms of the purchase of the book all assets that remain after the administrators left belong to us).
If it is just a case of unpaid bills then do I have a duty to return them to the provider?
Not a techy type so this is a very gray area for me.
Many Thanks
Mike
(I bet you never expected to be answering this type of question)?

Thats a nice mess you got there.
If the devices have been reported lost or stolen then they are usually rendered useless. Normally you will be in trouble if they have been reported stolen but this is a different scenario. Simply put another sim card in and see if the phone can connect to the network. You might need to unlock the device if you are inserting a SIM from any other operator.
In the case of unpaid bills, you do not have to return them. I am guessing your company owns the contracts now as well so you guys might have to pay the bills anyway. You might want to check the contract terms though before you decide to keep them.
And what a waste for those great phones; access points?

Why not check to see if the phones are insured and if they were reported lost / stolen then maybe they can be replaced. As above try a different sim card and as i understand it, the phones wont be sim locked or at least mine weren't. If you want to solely use the devices to connect to an access point then there should be no problem as the operators blocking (blacklisting) works by preventing the device connecting to a base station and therefore preventing telephony.

IMEI on back different to UI / packaging!

Bought from Tesco, IMEI printed inside back cover is 8 digits away from the IMEI on the packaging! Obviously someone on the line muddled up the rear casings...

jfinnie said:
Bought from Tesco, IMEI printed inside back cover is 8 digits away from the IMEI on the packaging! Obviously someone on the line muddled up the rear casings...
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It's not unheard of, does happen.. Notify the place you bought it from, ask for a new receipt/invoice with the CORRECT IMEI for you phone. It doesn't really matter, but if you ever lose the phone or there is a dispute over who owns it you would need this to prove it's yours or get the phone blocked on the network (if it's stolen).
Obviously the one on the phone (in the about phone menu) is the real one.. I say this, because if some numpty has the phone with your back/box (IMEI) on, and they lose it, its possibly the dumb network people could block your phone by mistake.. No one wants to wake up to a blocked phone and a load of hassle..

helppme said:
It's not unheard of, does happen.. Notify the place you bought it from, ask for a new receipt/invoice with the CORRECT IMEI for you phone. It doesn't really matter, but if you ever lose the phone or there is a dispute over who owns it you would need this to prove it's yours or get the phone blocked on the network (if it's stolen).
Obviously the one on the phone (in the about phone menu) is the real one.. I say this, because if some numpty has the phone with your back/box (IMEI) on, and they lose it, its possibly the dumb network people could block your phone by mistake.. No one wants to wake up to a blocked phone and a load of hassle..
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I returned it - I imagine in a multiple like Tesco you have no chance of getting such an ammendment done to the receipt (heck, the receipt doesn't even list the IMEI). There is at least one scenario which could arise even more problematic than above - my unit is actually programmed with the SAME IMEI as the other device because someone scanned another phone back before programming the IMEI. Not worth the hassle really. Annoying though.
It does seem like the quality control is not brilliant - or at least the Tesco got a batch which were made at a time when the factory were pushed or similar. I work in high-end electronics design so I might be fussier than most - but each of 4 phones bought from Tesco within a 3 week period have had some fault or other. Admittedly not massive faults (though the IMEI mix up is perhaps fatal for your phone).

jfinnie said:
I returned it - I imagine in a multiple like Tesco you have no chance of getting such an ammendment done to the receipt (heck, the receipt doesn't even list the IMEI). There is at least one scenario which could arise even more problematic than above - my unit is actually programmed with the SAME IMEI as the other device because someone scanned another phone back before programming the IMEI. Not worth the hassle really. Annoying though.
It does seem like the quality control is not brilliant - or at least the Tesco got a batch which were made at a time when the factory were pushed or similar. I work in high-end electronics design so I might be fussier than most - but each of 4 phones bought from Tesco within a 3 week period have had some fault or other. Admittedly not massive faults (though the IMEI mix up is perhaps fatal for your phone).
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I think it's Tesco at fault. They are given the units they then open them, insert their sim and assign IMEI etc. I think they are clumsy idiots who damage the backs, mess up the packaging etc. during this process. I'm very confident they are unskilled people and this is not being done in a 'clean' environment like where the phones are manufactured. The dead pixel is probably Motorola's fault.

[Q] Bad ESN/IMEI Fix?

Hello,
I am wanting to find a way to make LEGAL cash and have no intention in breaking any laws whatsoever.
Say you have a phone (Galaxy S4, iPhone 5, etc) and it has been blacklisted and cannot be used with another carrier. What if i buy an S4 (or whatever) with a good IMEI or ESN but its broken (screen cracked wifi dont work, etc) and apply the ESN or IMEI to the blacklisted phone? Is this illegal?
I read that it is illegal to do this if you are intentionally applying an ESN to a phone in order to spy on someone, etc. but the ESN i would use to make the black listed phone work would come from a completely destroyed phone (but has a good ESN) and would most likely be taken apart and sold piece by piece after applying the ESN/IMEI to the phone being repaired.
I also read that you can unlock a phone to be used internationally if it is blacklisted in the U.S. and it would work for carriers overseas but that may change soon.
Is there any way that doing this type of thing would NOT be illegal? Is there any websites with up to date information you guys can recommend so i can read up on this? Any recommendations (besides ebay) to find destroyed phones with verified good IMEI/ESN numbers would get great as well.
I would like to start a side business as i love tinkering with phones/computers/tablets etc. plus the extra money would be nice.
I need some extra cash and i know that i would most likely have to purchase an expensive program like CDMA Workshop or something like that in order to legally transfer IMEI/ESN information but i would like to start a business doing this to make some extra cash on the side, but LEGALLY.
Any information on the matter would be greatly appreciated.

Will I get 5.1.1?

My contact with Verizon is up in August. I'm sad to say I will not have a android phone anymore. My employer insists on iPhones and there is no point paying for a personal phone anymore.
Do you think I'll be blessed with lollipop before I cancel my service in August?
Can't believe it has taken this long. But I have to say, it's been a heck of a device for two years. Going strong still. Good way to end android.
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Piaband said:
My contact with Verizon is up in August. I'm sad to say I will not have a android phone anymore. My employer insists on iPhones and there is no point paying for a personal phone anymore.
Do you think I'll be blessed with lollipop before I cancel my service in August?
Can't believe it has taken this long. But I have to say, it's been a heck of a device for two years. Going strong still. Good way to end android.
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Hi,
Most probably not before August.
Lot of older Moto devices getting 5.1 these days (Moto X, Moto G, etc.), but the Ultra/Maxx/Mini line is behind in schedule "pending partner support" (means they're waiting for Verizon in order to start anything). If we're lucky, we will get it this year, but I'm not holding my breath. Anyway, I will still keep it regardless, as you said, it's a heck of a device
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My contract is also up in late August and I'm pretty sure that MAYBE we'll see the update right about then. The 2013 X is in Verizon lab testing phase right now, so who knows what that means for the update? Hopefully, this month, and then they can finally work on the 2013 Droids.

I know this thread is old, but this may help if you are still looking for a solution.
Method A) If your company is still using Verizon, take the iPhone SIM card out with a paperclip, temporarily put it in your phone, then check for updates.
Method B) Find a friend with Verizon (who's phone uses a nano SIM), temporarily put it in your phone, then check for updates.
Method C) Have a friend with Verizon temporarily swap it with the phone on their account. I know this can be done by calling them, but there may be an option to do it online as well. You need the SIM card number for your phone and possibly the IMEI, depending on the rep. Check for updates. They should be able to call and reactivate their own phone afterwards without giving them all of the numbers since the phone was already linked to their account. Worst case, they need to read the SIM and IMEI of their phone to the rep.
Method D) If you can only find friends with regular or micro SIM cards, none of them want to call Verizon, and one of them is very trusting, order the appropriate regular-micro/micro-nano SIM cutter (they sell dual ones too) and some adapters so you can cut it down to nano, use it, and put it back in their phone with the adapter. ***Depending on the phone, some adapters work much better than others!*** Below are the types I've seen/used:
NEVER PUT THESE ADAPTERS IN A PHONE WITHOUT THE SIM CARD IN THEM!! THEY CAN GET STUCK AND BREAK THE PINS INSIDE YOUR SIM READER!!!
1) With a hole going all the way through (sometimes the only one that will work)
2) With a thin layer of plastic on one side (these seem convenient but aren't always able to be safely used because of the added thickness)
3) With a thin layer (thinner than the other type) of tape covering one side that helps keep it from falling out. As long as the tape that comes with the adapter isn't really cheap, it should stay on. ***Make sure you can't easily rub the tape off or you may run into issues with the tape, or the entire adapter, getting stuck in the phone!***
Hopefully this helps.
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Huawei P10 how to check if its actually new

Hey you beautiful people, I'm about to do a trade in from our local sell/buy website and i would be receiving a "vacuum sealed" Huawei P10
Now, half of my personality is "I don't trust nobody" and I have requested from the guy to take a picture of the little sticker containing imei and such, so in hopes I can check if the phone was ever activated or whatnot
I got the picture I asked for but I haven't found a place or a way to check it if the phone is actually new.
I tried using the imei.info website which gave me nothing on if the phone is activated or not, now I had the idea maybe it doesn't say because it wasn't actually activated so I typed in my personal phones imei (samsung phone) and i got a whole different set of info, now I had the idea "okay, maybe because its a Samsung and not a Huawei phone and the set of info you get is different from brand to brand, so I grabbed my mommas phone, she has a Huawei P10 lite, typed in her phones imei and the infos i got was 98% the same to what the p10 had, except my moms phone had 2 additional sections of the dates the phone was bought which matches the expiring date of the warranty if you add 2 years to the purchase date
But, still no info of phone activation knowing one phone is definitely used and I question the validity of the P10 I would be receiving
I wouldn't use the P10 I would sell it and get a smart watch to go with my samsung phone, already have a buyer for the p10, but I would still like to know if you can actually check if the phone was activated (in this case a huawei p10) without opening the seal and booting the phone up and looking for the uptime and other things like total calls time, etc in the details of the phone in the settings
My apologies if the post is long, I like to give as much details as I can