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HTC A9 vs Xiaomi Redmi 3

What you think about the Redmi 3?
It's the better/cheaper A9 from China?

Definitely wayyyy cheaper, but the A9 has the better components to it. Better when compared to the price difference? Probably not, but still better.
If you live in a region where you can easily get the Redmi 3 and it matched your network bands, it's probably the better choice. The only region where the A9 makes sense is in North America.

jellmoo said:
Definitely wayyyy cheaper, but the A9 has the better components to it. Better when compared to the price difference? Probably not, but still better.
If you live in a region where you can easily get the Redmi 3 and it matched your network bands, it's probably the better choice. The only region where the A9 makes sense is in North America.
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The battery life is almost 100% bigger. LOL. I'm in Singapore and usually the phone will release in China itself first before making way to other countries after few months. by that time, they are ready to out another new model of redmi/note/Mi series again. with their price being so close to each other, it's hard to justify the purchase when another model is coming out soon again.

n0_yi said:
The battery life is almost 100% bigger. LOL. I'm in Singapore and usually the phone will release in China itself first before making way to other countries after few months. by that time, they are ready to out another new model of redmi/note/Mi series again. with their price being so close to each other, it's hard to justify the purchase when another model is coming out soon again.
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Yup. Much bigger battery.
The only problem with that line of thought is that you just never end up buying anything, as something new is always just around the horizon. If the OP needs a phone right now, the Redmi 3 offers some great bang for the buck *provided* you live in the target market. The A9 is a great device, it's just priced too high (and comes with weaker internals outside of NA).

jellmoo said:
Yup. Much bigger battery.
The only problem with that line of thought is that you just never end up buying anything, as something new is always just around the horizon. If the OP needs a phone right now, the Redmi 3 offers some great bang for the buck *provided* you live in the target market. The A9 is a great device, it's just priced too high (and comes with weaker internals outside of NA).
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Ya it's sgd798 which is usd554.38 for the 32GB version.
I've gotten a 16gb export version for usd329. Not a heavy user so I guess 2gb ram is good enough.
& I already got 64GB memory card standby for it.
There's only Xiaomi that price is comparable to their original market (in this case, china, because anything under $200 is dirt cheap).
Even OnePlus doesn't feel cheap over here, around usd 30-40 more expensive than US itself (the hype starts in US afterall)

No Smartphones bigger than 5.7 inches in the U.S?

Seems like this cell phone will not be released in the U.S.
Why is there no smartphones that is bigger than 5.7 inches available in the United States Of America?

cryingthug said:
Seems like this cell phone will not be released in the U.S.
Why is there no smartphones that is bigger than 5.7 inches available in the United States Of America?
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I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed this. It seems to be a coordinated effort - almost a conspiracy that phones bigger than 5.7 inches don't make it to the USA and/or receive little to zero promotion and/or support.

It's nice to know I'm not the only one whose been clamoring for a 7" phone since the first Samsung Tab was released! PUT A CELLULAR RADIO IN IT, I said.
I'll be bringing the Zenfone 3 Ultra into the states in a couple of months. Might even have a go at opening up the US LTE bands with the post at the top of this forum.

But Why?
mikkej2k said:
I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed this. It seems to be a coordinated effort - almost a conspiracy that phones bigger than 5.7 inches don't make it to the USA and/or receive little to zero promotion and/or support.
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nathanotis and mikkej2k,
And if the reviewers do review the phablet many say that the phone is way too big. I am convinced that the people that say that have abnormally small hands. LOL.
My question now is, why do you think that there is nothing over 5.7 available in the U.S?

cryingthug said:
nathanotis and mikkej2k,
My question now is, why do you think that there is nothing over 5.7 available in the U.S?
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No risk takers in the American market?
Or,
Simple supply and demand. There's not enough demand. Just stick with what's most profitable.

As more people mature ( grow older ) carriers will be forced to sell/allow larger smartphones on their networks. I believe that Sprint , T-Mobile , Verizon , and AT&T are the biggest stumbling blocks to larger phones. After the carriers I think the manufacturers don't want to go big - if they can charge more for less , why not?
*Older people would want larger screens because they are easier to read.*

Better For The Eyes
mikkej2k said:
*Older people would want larger screens because they are easier to read.*
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I am not old and my eyes are excellent but I agree with the larger screens are easier to read 100%. I very much dislike trying to look at a web page on a sub 6 inch screen. What a horrible experience. If the web page is not designed for mobile you are just scrolling all the time. People are paying all this money to have data on their phones and then having to look at all that tiny font. No thank you. Plus videos and movies look so awesome on the larger size screens.

cryingthug said:
Seems like this cell phone will not be released in the U.S.
Why is there no smartphones that is bigger than 5.7 inches available in the United States Of America?
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there is, one that i know for sure is huawei mate 8, a 6 incher, it supports ATT and T-Mo LTE bands in USA.
only gripe - the Kirin 950 SoC, not the performance side of it, but the no source code side of it, meaning no 3rd party roms, OS upgrade and security patches are at mercy of huawei, they are not known to be diligent when it comes to that ..
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9878/the-huawei-mate-8-review

nathanotis said:
It's nice to know I'm not the only one whose been clamoring for a 7" phone since the first Samsung Tab was released! PUT A CELLULAR RADIO IN IT, I said.
I'll be bringing the Zenfone 3 Ultra into the states in a couple of months. Might even have a go at opening up the US LTE bands with the post at the top of this forum.
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The Samsung Tab S 8.4 certainly had a cellular radio in it, that was my last cell phone...
I like big phone and I can not lie....

omniphil said:
The Samsung Tab S 8.4 certainly had a cellular radio in it, that was my last cell phone...
I like big phone and I can not lie....
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How did it work as a phone? Was the size ever a hindrance?
(Just realized you also posted to the other thread I'm watching)

nathanotis said:
How did it work as a phone? Was the size ever a hindrance?
(Just realized you also posted to the other thread I'm watching)
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I doesn't easily fit in your pocket, but that's really the only size hindrance. I actually still have it and use it in my car as a navigation device. It still preforms quite well..
It was cheap too under $500 when new, which is quite a bit cheaper than any flagship phone at the time.

It seems that the Zenfone 3 Ultra (International version & no warranty) is being sold on a large Internet website but it costs several hundred more than they said it would be. It is priced out of reach at almost $700 it is not worth the money. I am not buying.

cryingthug said:
It seems that the Zenfone 3 Ultra (International version & no warranty) is being sold on a large Internet website but it costs several hundred more than they said it would be. It is priced out of reach at almost $700 it is not worth the money. I am not buying.
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It's priced high because it just came out, if you wait a month it should come down to normal pricing....

cryingthug said:
It seems that the Zenfone 3 Ultra (International version & no warranty) is being sold on a large Internet website but it costs several hundred more than they said it would be. It is priced out of reach at almost $700 it is not worth the money. I am not buying.
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The 4GB/64GB model runs for $630 or so for first hand retail (IE: direct from the original seller). The $700 you mentioned is from a reseller (IE: they paid $630 and are reselling it for a small profit).
The 3GB/32GB model runs for about $460, and is probably more in line with the pricing you had heard announced.
The real trick is finding either model in stock at a first hand retailer, as the resellers are buying them up as quickly as they can.

There is a market for the plus 5.7 phones. Everytime one these phones are announced , people that like smaller phones complain as if they'll be forced to switch. Most of those that prefer smaller phones act as though they don't want the larger phones released.
Why does this bother people that like smaller phones? When the original Galaxy Note came out it was groundbreaking for a mainstream company to release a phone that big. Now it's commonplace ( I'm looking at you Apple - iPhone Plus )

shdwphnx said:
The 4GB/64GB model runs for $630 or so for first hand retail (IE: direct from the original seller). The $700 you mentioned is from a reseller (IE: they paid $630 and are reselling it for a small profit).
The 3GB/32GB model runs for about $460, and is probably more in line with the pricing you had heard announced.
The real trick is finding either model in stock at a first hand retailer, as the resellers are buying them up as quickly as they can.
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Just a little I formation for ones that might be looking to purchase the Asus Zenfone ultra (ZU680KL), with 4gb of ram and 64gb internal memory.
I purchased mine new, from EBay with a one year warranty. Purchase price was 593.00, factory unlocked, with free shipping and handling (still higher than originally advertised). Device came from Never-Msrp, out of Houston, Texas.

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Just a little I formation for ones that might be looking to purchase the Asus Zenfone ultra (ZU680KL), with 4gb of ram and 64gb internal memory.
I purchased mine new, from EBay with a one year warranty. Purchase price was 593.00, factory unlocked, with free shipping and handling (still higher than originally advertised). Device came from Never-Msrp, out of Houston, Texas.
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What carrier are you using your phone on? What type of bands will the phone let you access? What type of factory support do you get? ( if any? )

mikkej2k said:
What carrier are you using your phone on? What type of bands will the phone let you access? What type of factory support do you get? ( if any? )
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Cricket, which is owned by AT&T, also speeds are capped by them at 4Mbps on 4G and 8Mbps on LTE. I get Hsdpa bands and Gsm bands. The phone has LTE bands, but can't be accessed here. I'm hoping to root soon, not sure if the LTE bands can be accessed then. This however is not real important to me or I would have not purchased the phone anyway. I'm getting 3Mbps on download speeds. Was getting 4-5Mbps on my HTC 10, thru Cricket. Have had no problems to ask for any factory support yet. Asus sent paperwork with phone for a one year warranty against defects and workmanship (standard for most phones). I have something thru eBay, not sure for how long. The warranty really does you no good if you root the phone though. I had a one year warranty on my HTC One M8 and have a one year on my HTC 10, but they are rooted, so their warranties we're voided anyway. Never had to ask for factory support on them either. Asus has a website devoted to their phones, with various types of information, even including how to's on bootloader unlocking on many models (including the zenfone 3 deluxe), source codes, etc.
I guess it's a matter of what you want out of a phone. If you want a faster processor and LTE in the US, this is not the phone for you. It's not the phone my HTC 10 was (gave to my wife), because of the processor, and LTE. But I was essentially looking for a 7 inch tablet with 4gb of ram, great camera, video player with a very good sounding dual speakers, external SD card, and has phone ability. Very hard to find many 7 inch tablets with all the above specs together. I get all of the above with this 6.8 screen Ultra phablet. Also the build quality of this phone has really improved over the previous Asus phones. Realy like the metal workmanship. Not quite as good as HTC 10, but getting there. So far very happy with it and hoping they will unlock the bootloader like they did for the Deluxe.
Thanks for the questions. Never knew how to answer in short sentences. I answer this way in person also. Hope it wasn't to long winded for you.
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Slbtrb79 said:
Cricket, which is owned by AT&T, also speeds are capped by them at 4Mbps on 4G and 8Mbps on LTE. I get Hsdpa bands and Gsm bands. The phone has LTE bands, but can't be accessed here. I'm hoping to root soon, not sure if the LTE bands can be accessed then. This however is not real important to me or I would have not purchased the phone anyway. I'm getting 3Mbps on download speeds. Was getting 4-5Mbps on my HTC 10, thru Cricket. Have had no problems to ask for any factory support yet. Asus sent paperwork with phone for a one year warranty against defects and workmanship (standard for most phones). I have something thru eBay, not sure for how long. The warranty really does you no good if you root the phone though. I had a one year warranty on my HTC One M8 and have a one year on my HTC 10, but they are rooted, so their warranties we're voided anyway. Never had to ask for factory support on them either. Asus has a website devoted to their phones, with various types of information, even including how to's on bootloader unlocking on many models (including the zenfone 3 deluxe), source codes, etc.
I guess it's a matter of what you want out of a phone. If you want a faster processor and LTE in the US, this is not the phone for you. It's not the phone my HTC 10 was (gave to my wife), because of the processor, and LTE. But I was essentially looking for a 7 inch tablet with 4gb of ram, great camera, video player with a very good sounding dual speakers, external SD card, and has phone ability. Very hard to find many 7 inch tablets with all the above specs together. I get all of the above with this 6.8 screen Ultra phablet. Also the build quality of this phone has really improved over the previous Asus phones. Realy like the metal workmanship. Not quite as good as HTC 10, but getting there. So far very happy with it and hoping they will unlock the bootloader like they did for the Deluxe.
Thanks for the questions. Never knew how to answer in short sentences. I answer this way in person also. Hope it wasn't to long winded for you.
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Also, as a side note. There is a factory rom and source code for the Ultra ZU680KL on Asus site for download, in case you would have a problem.

Motorola nexus 6 is 5.96 inches FYI.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

If you want to know why manufacturers are not shipping as much to the US lately, look at the patent system in the US. Once you ship any products to the US, you are counting down the time until you get sued by someone in east Texas...
Not worth the money to sell things in the US market until this situation gets under control.

Huawei Mate 30 pro in the Netherlands

According to some twitter posts from Huawei nl, the Mate 30 pro is officially available at Mediamarkt stores in the Netherlands by 21/02/2020.
The price will be around €950

950€...that's still a hefty sum. Paid a lot less for mine 2nd hand but in new condition.
Looking at it, you can buy a brand new note 10+ for less than this and that phone comes with google play. I ask myself how many people will pay this price for a handicapped device. Not all of them are ready to side load google or even go without google.
Hell, the other day I had a note 10+ in my hands and you can say what you want but that is also a nice piece of tech.

It is official in UK as well.

Tcl 10l 128gb @ $190

So since the dawn of the S6, I've been a huge Samsung fan (and we don't need to go into why I believe that Samsung is the best, that's not why I came here), and I'm also a true Note lover because of the stylus. So my Note literally fell from a 13th-floor balcony and got destroyed, talk about luck and number 13 ?, thank god I had a complete cloud backup of my phone's data and It was just a couple of days old, so no data was lost.
I'm using an ancient backup phone I had just for now until I decide what phone will I buy, but of course, I'm not going to buy a new Note, I plan to buy a mid-range phone so that I can do all my daily tasks, I use my phone a lot at work especially when I'm out of the office for calls, emails, PDF viewing, WhatsApp and Skype besides that there's social media consumption, web browsing, some amateur photography (I'm not a professional), music streaming, youtube, 9gag and light gaming like Egg Inc. and wait for the S21 or whatever Samsung decides to name it.
So I've found out that the TCL 10L 128GB is up for $190 where I am right now so I thought that it's a good idea to buy this one considering the specs and the price.
So my question is at $190 is the TCL 10L 128GB a good phone for the tasks I mentioned above considering It'll only be used until the S21 arrival?

zedselder said:
So since the dawn of the S6, I've been a huge Samsung fan (and we don't need to go into why I believe that Samsung is the best, that's not why I came here), and I'm also a true Note lover because of the stylus. So my Note literally fell from a 13th-floor
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So my question is at $190 is the TCL 10L 128GB a good phone for the tasks I mentioned above considering It'll only be used until the S21 arrival?
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For that price range you could get a better phone, like the Xiaomi Poco X3. It has a bigger battery, a better processor, better benchmark scores in general. And it's around 180€, and since you're buying the next samsung, it'd be better not spending too much.

Raiz said:
For that price range you could get a better phone, like the Xiaomi Poco X3. It has a bigger battery, a better processor, better benchmark scores in general. And it's around 180€, and since you're buying the next samsung, it'd be better not spending too much.
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Well the Poco X3 is $285 where I am now, and I'm on a budget since I'm on a business trip in another country. That's why I liked the 10L offer because is very inexpensive considering the other phones with the same specs.
And since I need a phone ASAP and won't be using it for more than 4 months I thought it would do fine.
So If the X3 is out will the 10L do fine handling my tasks for the time being considering the price.

zedselder said:
Well the Poco X3 is $285 where I am now, and I'm on a budget since I'm on a business trip in another country. That's why I liked the 10L
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for the time being considering the price.
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Oh ok, yes I think you should be fine with it.

Raiz said:
Oh ok, yes I think you should be fine with it.
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Great, thanks for the help.

Question [INDIA] Galaxy S22 Ultra news + discussion thread.

Looks like India might be getting the Snapdragon this year. How many of you are going to upgrade? I've already sold my S21 Ultra in anticipation for the S22 Ultra.

For me, it's too early to decide based on rumours and conjecture alone. Will wait for a month after the device is out in people's hands before making the decision. I stayed back on A11 on my S21U so phone performance is still very good. Thankfully, i downgraded from A12 before the bootloader update so I was able to roll back. If A12 performance on S22U is similar to the S21U, I would stay clear of it.
As far as chipset is concerned, I don't really have an issue with the E2100. Unlike previous Exynos SoCs, I quite liked the E2100. It's very comparable to the SD888 performance, really closing the gap this year. In some aspects I actually prefer the E2100, especially is thermal performance and stand-by battery drain, when compared to the SD counterpart.
The S22U isn't offering anything more than an inbuilt stylus and a generational chipset upgrade. Not sure if the increase in performance will justify the extra cost of upgrading.
The phone has got to be something really special and miles ahead of the S21U for me to spend another 60-70k (assuming S21U exchange discount, bank offers etc). If I was upgrading from S20U to S22U, I could justify it, but from the S21U, only time will tell if it's worth the money.

Yes this is pain as no one yet know what version release in India
According to some reports southeast countries will get SD so according to this we may get Exynos
I am planning to buy but want to go with international version, as its useless if you develop and no audience there. Let's see.

dr.ketan said:
Yes this is pain as no one yet know what version release in India
According to some reports southeast countries will get SD so according to this we may get Exynos
I am planning to buy but want to go with international version, as its useless if you develop and no audience there. Let's see.
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Looks like it is almost confirmed to be Snapdragon in India.

enigmaamit said:
For me, it's too early to decide based on rumours and conjecture alone. Will wait for a month after the device is out in people's hands before making the decision. I stayed back on A11 on my S21U so phone performance is still very good. Thankfully, i downgraded from A12 before the bootloader update so I was able to roll back. If A12 performance on S22U is similar to the S21U, I would stay clear of it.
As far as chipset is concerned, I don't really have an issue with the E2100. Unlike previous Exynos SoCs, I quite liked the E2100. It's very comparable to the SD888 performance, really closing the gap this year. In some aspects I actually prefer the E2100, especially is thermal performance and stand-by battery drain, when compared to the SD counterpart.
The S22U isn't offering anything more than an inbuilt stylus and a generational chipset upgrade. Not sure if the increase in performance will justify the extra cost of upgrading.
The phone has got to be something really special and miles ahead of the S21U for me to spend another 60-70k (assuming S21U exchange discount, bank offers etc). If I was upgrading from S20U to S22U, I could justify it, but from the S21U, only time will tell if it's worth the money.
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IMO, i feel the S21U will get atleast 65 to 75K easily in exchange because,
1. S21 Ultra is out of stock at most places
2. S21 Ultra prices, new at places with stock may not go down
3. S22 Ultra won't be much of an upgrade so people may opt to buy S21 Ultra at a lower price

CONFIRMED!
Galaxy S21, S22 Galaxy S21 FE Galaxy Z Fold3, Z Flip3, Galaxy Tab S8 Will ALL get 4 major android updates AND 5 years of security updates!

Sukrith said:
IMO, i feel the S21U will get atleast 65 to 75K easily in exchange because,
1. S21 Ultra is out of stock at most places
2. S21 Ultra prices, new at places with stock may not go down
3. S22 Ultra won't be much of an upgrade so people may opt to buy S21 Ultra at a lower price
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I agree, I sold my S21 Ultra for 65k but it took sometime for me to find a buyer. The prices should be in the 55k range for S21 Ultra after the release of S22U. But regardless of that with all the goodies they will give (hopefully), the nett cost shouldn't be more than 30-35k. The nett cost for my Note 20U to S21U transfer was 10k.

Eagerly waiting for S22U/S22+. Will be looking to pre-order from corporate website with +ve news of SD version, 4 major android version is confirmed. Just waiting for prices & offers. Will be upgrading from OP7T, so it should be big upgrade. Looking at the specs s22+ can be dark horse this year.
With SD version being released in more areas, there's high probability of good custom ROM scene.
Has anyone tried Samsung exchange program ? Any experience to share ?

amit_sen said:
Eagerly waiting for S22U/S22+. Will be looking to pre-order from corporate website with +ve news of SD version, 4 major android version is confirmed. Just waiting for prices & offers. Will be upgrading from OP7T, so it should be big upgrade. Looking at the specs s22+ can be dark horse this year.
With SD version being released in more areas, there's high probability of good custom ROM scene.
Has anyone tried Samsung exchange program ? Any experience to share ?
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From what i know, SD versions of Samsung devices have been locked down since the beginning with all the custom rom things happening for the Exynos.

Sukrith said:
From what i know, SD versions of Samsung devices have been locked down since the beginning with all the custom rom things happening for the Exynos.
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That's only with US version, not CH & Hongkong so it will be interesting to know which version of SD will be launced in india.
Model number ending with '0' shoule be rootable but U won't. e.g. 'S9080' can be rooted "S908U" can't.
exynos model usually ended with "B" (in case 5G ) e.g "S908B"

"Note" worthy, with minimal improvements,
For S21U users,
This isn't gonna be an upgrade.
It'll be a "next version released, so buying it" thingy.

Do we think we will have issues with BL unlock disabling cameras?

fkofilee said:
Do we think we will have issues with BL unlock disabling cameras?
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It shouldn't. Still need to know which version they are releasing in India.
Camera restriction they have applied on Fold3 but later with oneui 4.0 no more issue, so I don't think they will implement again

Why pre-book offer is so useless this time around with a flagship? Is it like "Hey, we are giving you Snadragon this time around, not those hard to convince inhouse Exynos", so stay happy with a smart tag?

Virgo_Guy said:
Why pre-book offer is so useless this time around with a flagship? Is it like "Hey, we are giving you Snadragon this time around, not those hard to convince inhouse Exynos", so stay happy with a smart tag?
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I think they will mention bank and other offers when they start taking pre-order this is just prereserve

Virgo_Guy said:
Why pre-book offer is so useless this time around with a flagship? Is it like "Hey, we are giving you Snadragon this time around, not those hard to convince inhouse Exynos", so stay happy with a smart tag?
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I don't think the actual cashback and accessory discount offers will be displayed till the price has been announced and deals struck with banks (most probably HDFC again).

Isn’t it odd that India still doesn’t have pricing or preorder date or retail launch announced even 24 hours past the global launch? Been buying every S flagship day 1 preorders and I can recall all the way back to 7 years when we started getting pricing and preorder info immediately. Anyone knows if pre-reserve can be clubbed with preorder when it opens up later? Last year I didn’t bother with pre reserve but did preorder directly from the Samsung India website for the ultra.

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Isn’t it odd that India still doesn’t have pricing or preorder date or retail launch announced even 24 hours past the global launch? Been buying every S flagship day 1 preorders and I can recall all the way back to 7 years when we started getting pricing and preorder info immediately. Anyone knows if pre-reserve can be clubbed with preorder when it opens up later? Last year I didn’t bother with pre reserve but did preorder directly from the Samsung India website for the ultra.
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They have done it before too, pre-reserve is just there way of keeping the hype active. Pre-reserve will club with Pre-order as usual. There partner is going to be HDFC or ICICI only as they are with most bankable users who have proven record of buying Samsung Devices.
Yet we don't get the price level of US. There they are giving 512gb for price of 256gb & 256gb for 128gb. We wont have 128gb & base will be 256gb. Pricing may start 1L+ uptil 1.2L

anil84 said:
They have done it before too, pre-reserve is just there way of keeping the hype active. Pre-reserve will club with Pre-order as usual. There partner is going to be HDFC or ICICI only as they are with most bankable users who have proven record of buying Samsung Devices.
Yet we don't get the price level of US. There they are giving 512gb for price of 256gb & 256gb for 128gb. We wont have 128gb & base will be 256gb. Pricing may start 1L+ uptil 1.2L
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Yeah not worried about price. And 256 is what I anyways have on the 21 ultra so will go for 256 again. But the nation wants to know when the pre orders begin?

twisted_mind said:
Yeah not worried about price. And 256 is what I anyways have on the 21 ultra so will go for 256 again. But the nation wants to know when the pre orders begin?
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anytime before 21st feb