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my Question is simple and straightforward: if I buy the Mi9 will Gcam use all the 48Mp of the sensor or just 12mp? And if it will only use 12mp will this be because pixel-bining will still work\happen or just because Pixel phones(for which gcam was made) only have 12mp camera and that is the limit? So I will actually LOSE quality compared to Stock cam mi9? Mi8 only had 12mp sensor so I can't just look in that forum for answers. Sony Phones have more MP but they don't support gcam because of the api.
I have only tested Gcam on my MIX 2 and that phone is also only 12mp sensor.
I am pondering at the moment between getting mi9 or s10+.. but price of s10+ is a bit high and from the samples i saw already s10+ doesn't shoot better quality than my s9+ (with zeroprobe's camera mod) since it has the exact same sensors as s9+ only with the ultrawide one added. I have the feeling that mi9 with gcam has the potential to be better than s10 since my mix2 (which has a ****ty single camera) can rival the s9+ with the help of gcam.
Thank you in advance!
sensationvsgalaxy said:
Hi all!
Thanks for clicking on this thread!
my Question is simple and straightforward: if I buy the Mi9 will Gcam use all the 48Mp of the sensor or just 12mp? And if it will only use 12mp will this be because pixel-bining will still work\happen or just because Pixel phones(for which gcam was made) only have 12mp camera and that is the limit? So I will actually LOSE quality compared to Stock cam mi9? Mi8 only had 12mp sensor so I can't just look in that forum for answers. Sony Phones have more MP but they don't support gcam because of the api.
I have only tested Gcam on my MIX 2 and that phone is also only 12mp sensor.
I am pondering at the moment between getting mi9 or s10+.. but price of s10+ is a bit high and from the samples i saw already s10+ doesn't shoot better quality than my s9+ (with zeroprobe's camera mod) since it has the exact same sensors as s9+ only with the ultrawide one added. I have the feeling that mi9 with gcam has the potential to be better than s10 since my mix2 (which has a ****ty single camera) can rival the s9+ with the help of gcam.
Thank you in advance!
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It can only read 12mp subsampling pixels (0.8micron). Not 12mp pixelbinning 1.6micron
It's so bad, when you zoom in 2x, it crop to 3mp effective resolution
I don't like this idea
S10+ has poor camera2api, you can't access wide and tele lens, no f2.4 option (f1.5 one is not so clear)
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Oppomart listed the oneplus 6 with some amazing specs here: https://www.oppomart.com/oneplus-6-phone.html
Could these be the official specs of the upcoming OnePlus 6 ?
joosef93 said:
Oppomart listed the oneplus 6 with some amazing specs here: https://www.oppomart.com/oneplus-6-phone.html
Could these be the official specs of the upcoming OnePlus 6 ?
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From this website:
The all-new Oneplus 6 comes with a dual 20MP+16MP Sony camera sensors that work together when you take a shot. The standard RGB sensor captures color details and information, whereas the dedicated monochrome sensor provides a higher contrast, captures more light,and reduces image noise. So now shots taken with Oneplus 5T is clearer, better, and more vivid.
Note how it talks about the OnePlus 5T
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rav101 said:
From this website:
The all-new Oneplus 6 comes with a dual 20MP+16MP Sony camera sensors that work together when you take a shot. The standard RGB sensor captures color details and information, whereas the dedicated monochrome sensor provides a higher contrast, captures more light,and reduces image noise. So now shots taken with Oneplus 5T is clearer, better, and more vivid.
Note how it talks about the OnePlus 5T
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Except the fact that 5T doesn't have a monochrome sensor, it had a low light sensor IMX 376K which is BS and never proved to be good. The primary camera in 5T is Sony IMX 398 here it was mentioned as Sony IMX 518 So it maybe true since the R15 uses the same sensor. A monochrome or wide angle sensor is very much welcome than the telephoto sensor.
Ratheesh6 said:
Except the fact that 5T doesn't have a monochrome sensor, it had a low light sensor IMX 376K which is BS and never proved to be good. The primary camera in 5T is Sony IMX 398 here it was mentioned as Sony IMX 518 So it maybe true since the R15 uses the same sensor. A monochrome or wide angle sensor is very much welcome than the telephoto sensor.
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I will be honest and say I don't know too much about how different sensors come together (monochrome, telephoto, low light ect) to get the best photos.
I'm looking at a review of the R15 Pro and that also seems to have a 16mp main camera and 20mp secondary camera. On the R15 Pro the secondary camera is the same as the OnePlus 5T which might not bode well for the OP6. The review I'm reading (GSM arena) does however say that the camera, selfie camera (a 20mp one) are pros of the R15 Pro but does say the 20mp secondary camera is mostly PR and that 1080p videos are pretty aweful.
It looks like the OP6 will have a vertical configuration for the cameras where the R15 Pro uses a horizontal configuration. I believe based on the recently released camera samples, they are talking about the secondary camera being a telephoto one so the setup might be slightly different to the R15 Pro. Lastly, the camera app itself is different between Oppo and OnePlus so let's hope all of these potential differences add up to a better camera experience than the R15 Pro which itself isn't supposed to be a bad camera setup anyway.
I think ultimately, we aren't going to be getting 960fps slow mo videos or a camera setup that will come anywhere close to the Huawei P20 Pro but maybe it will be good enough to be in the pack getting to call themselves "good camera".
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Well it's all known that the back camera of Nokia 8.1 is using Sony 363 sensor but what about the other like depth sensing and front camera there is no mention of the sensor vendors and their tech specs like sensor size ,as per the below link it is also found that Samsung sensors are being used in back cameras too with same specs but in which models it is not sure
https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model/74cc4ccf
So request if XDA or someone can get into the technical specs of all the sensors with their respective vendors and sensors sizes and share the information
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I want to know too... It's 20MP, but the photo result is so bad...
Kinda missing my old Oppo N3, which I can tap to focus for front and back with the rotating camera.
What I think about the front camera is of 5MP which manipulates as 20MP. As if you use Gcam port for Nokia 8.1 it shows front camera as 5MP.
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What I think about the front camera is of 5MP which manipulates as 20MP. As if you use Gcam port for Nokia 8.1 it shows front camera as 5MP.
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Gcam takes 5Mpix photos with any 5+ Mpix camera. Photos taken with stock camera app are 20 Mpix, and once again, number of megapixels does not represent the quality of photo, just the size.
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But my old Oppo N3 has 16MP for both front and back cameras in gcam (kinda old version though).
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What I think about the front camera is of 5MP which manipulates as 20MP. As if you use Gcam port for Nokia 8.1 it shows front camera as 5MP.
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Well I am pretty much not interested in gcam junk ports,it's not officially meant to be used on other devices other pixel so it has no whatsoever value in my view on any device ,people can shout as much as they want,second the sensor does the binning from original Nokia cam app it does not and should not have any access to the algorithms used by Nokia.this topic is related to the sensor manafacturers as there is lot of misinformation or information floating around as always of Nokia cameras and requested the XDA team to get into the crux of it ,anyway I am sure the front camera module uses 1/3.1 Samsung sensor and the depth one too on the rear the main 12mp is imx363 as confirmed by Nokia care on the email
pshnd said:
Gcam takes 5Mpix photos with any 5+ Mpix camera. Photos taken with stock camera app are 20 Mpix, and once again, number of megapixels does not represent the quality of photo, just the size.
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It's not the GCam limitations but the sensor and camera app of Nokia 8.1. You can install a hardware info app from play store and it will tell the Nokia 8.1 front cam as 5MP. And in true sense it is a 5MP sensor which uses pixel bining to produce 20MP images. But the picture quality is not up to the mark even after pixel bining.
I installed hw info app,it shows 20.1mp sensor.
Styleshman said:
It's not the GCam limitations but the sensor and camera app of Nokia 8.1. You can install a hardware info app from play store and it will tell the Nokia 8.1 front cam as 5MP. And in true sense it is a 5MP sensor which uses pixel bining to produce 20MP images. But the picture quality is not up to the mark even after pixel bining.
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Nope, going from 5mp to 20mp would be a upscaling using something like bilinear interpolation.
Pixel binning is combining pixels to produce a lower resolution but with an increased low light performance, in the case of the Nokia 8.1 it is combining 4 pixels hence the reduction to 5mp from 20.
Gcam is not designed for the anything other than Google products, it doesn't have a clue what is it supposed to be doing on the Nokia 8.1, it just doesn't contain the software necessary to use the front sensor correctly.
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Nope, going from 5mp to 20mp would be a upscaling using something like bilinear interpolation.
Pixel binning is combining pixels to produce a lower resolution but with an increased low light performance, in the case of the Nokia 8.1 it is combining 4 pixels hence the reduction to 5mp from 20.
Gcam is not designed for the anything other than Google products, it doesn't have a clue what is it supposed to be doing on the Nokia 8.1, it just doesn't contain the software necessary to use the front sensor correctly.
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Thanks mate for a conclusive reply. I do agree with you that it may be the interpolation in Nokia 8.1 front camera. As I am no longer using Nokia 8.1 so I can't comment on it any further.
Gcam by itself doesn't limit the supported resolutions to tight values. It's the camera stack implementation of most qcom and non-qcom phones that exposes only the binned raw camera streams from quad bayer sensor.
You can see it here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.camera2.test
The front camera resolution is 20 mp and the photos it takes are quite nice. But it apparantly supports pixel binning for low light conditions, but I have never seen it work. Gcam produces way better quality selfies that are 5 mp. So I guess it uses pixel binning or it's just their processing.
Whatever be the case, I want to if anyone has seen pixel binning actually work by the stock camera app.
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The front camera resolution is 20 mp and the photos it takes are quite nice. But it apparantly supports pixel binning for low light conditions, but I have never seen it work. Gcam produces way better quality selfies that are 5 mp. So I guess it uses pixel binning or it's just their processing.
Whatever be the case, I want to if anyone has seen pixel binning actually work by the stock camera app.
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Hi, late reply but worth mentioning. I have been doing my homework looking into why my 20MP front camera takes 5MP like shots. Well this is because there is pixel binning.
The stock camera app does take 20MP shots but the quality is very comparable to 5MP due to pixel binning. All other camera apps have so far produced real 5MP photos. In the end I prefer to keep the other apps and not waste my time with stock camera as it only gives a higher resolution, along with a heavier file, only to get a 5MP quality picture.
I am looking into finding a possible way to get a proper 20MP photo without pixel binning that may produce better quality photos.
I have moto one 5G(UW) , it's have 48 MP camera but due to Pixel binning it comes out with 12MP picture, i want to disable Pixel binning, is there any App that help me out.
That'll be appreciated if you help me out
Hello Guys, as the Gcam photo quality beats the quality of the oneplus camera ( in general) I'm thinking to root my oneplus 7 pro just to utilize telephoto and wide lenses in Gcam, so is it worth it ? does the quality differs compared to stock cam? thnx
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Has anyone done/seen a comparison of how the selfie camera on N20U (with 10MP) compares to S20U (with 40MP). I honestly don't know why Samsung degraded the MP count on Selfie but want to check how the selfie is compared to S20U and if there is a huge loss in quality
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Hi,
Has anyone done/seen a comparison of how the selfie camera on N20U (with 10MP) compares to S20U (with 40MP). I honestly don't know why Samsung degraded the MP count on Selfie but want to check how the selfie is compared to S20U and if there is a huge loss in quality
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Because the 10mp camera have phase detection dual pixel auto focus but the 40mp one don't so the Note 20 10Mp selfie can take better focused pictures than the s20 ultra 40mp one