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Hello guys,
I am thinking of buyin' an HTC Sensation to replace my old Desire (AMOLED), since I found a very attractive offer at a store near home, which is somehow cheaper than any of my usual online store and I can buy it with 1 year installment.The offer is unfortunately valid only for this device and not for SGSII, so not much of an option.
My main reason for upgrading my device from Desire is the pathetic internal memory of the Desire (beside of course better proc)...even CM7 partition, A2SD+, data2ext, etc. are not really solving this issue...
So...is there any big difference, if I upgrade to Sensation?
Edit: it is O2 branded device without contract, just the phone.
Or should I wait for EVO 3D for the bigger battery capacity?
Hmmmm.............
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Hello guys,
I am thinking of buyin' an HTC Sensation to replace my old Desire (AMOLED), since I found a very attractive offer at a store near home, which is somehow cheaper than any of my usual online store and I can buy it with 1 year installment.The offer is unfortunately valid only for this device and not for SGSII, so not much of an option.
My main reason for upgrading my device from Desire is the pathetic internal memory of the Desire (beside of course better proc)...even CM7 partition, A2SD+, data2ext, etc. are not really solving this issue...
So...is there any big difference, if I upgrade to Sensation?
Edit: it is O2 branded device without contract, just the phone.
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I own a sensation but i would not recommend buying it at the moment since it is still locked. an android phone that does not have permanent root and no ability to flash radios or ROMs is quite boring for Android enthusiasts
I would recommend to wait until alpharevx or HTC release S-off patch, we have no ETA on the alpharev release and cannot know whether it will ever be released, and we have no idea of how HTC perceives an "unlocked bootloader" so we do not really know the kind of freedom the HTC S-off will igve us
Just sit tight and enjoy the show till HTC or alpharev make their move. I had the galaxy s-II before but i did not like it. But now i am starting to think about it again because i am stuck with a locked phone that i cannot do anything with.
dont get me wrong, if the sensation ever gets unlocked the way we want, its gonna be an iconic mobile for the android community
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I own a sensation but i would not recommend buying it at the moment since it is still locked. an android phone that does not have permanent root and no ability to flash radios or ROMs is quite boring for Android enthusiasts
I would recommend to wait until alpharevx or HTC release S-off patch, we have no ETA on the alpharev release and cannot know whether it will ever be released, and we have no idea of how HTC perceives an "unlocked bootloader" so we do not really know the kind of freedom the HTC S-off will igve us
Just sit tight and enjoy the show till HTC or alpharev make their move. I had the galaxy s-II before but i did not like it. But now i am starting to think about it again because i am stuck with a locked phone that i cannot do anything with.
dont get me wrong, if the sensation ever gets unlocked the way we want, its gonna be an iconic mobile for the android community
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Another reason I went back to my g2x.. I need development and this hardly has any at the moment..
RADLOUNI said:
I own a sensation but i would not recommend buying it at the moment since it is still locked. an android phone that does not have permanent root and no ability to flash radios or ROMs is quite boring for Android enthusiasts
I would recommend to wait until alpharevx or HTC release S-off patch, we have no ETA on the alpharev release and cannot know whether it will ever be released, and we have no idea of how HTC perceives an "unlocked bootloader" so we do not really know the kind of freedom the HTC S-off will igve us
Just sit tight and enjoy the show till HTC or alpharev make their move. I had the galaxy s-II before but i did not like it. But now i am starting to think about it again because i am stuck with a locked phone that i cannot do anything with.
dont get me wrong, if the sensation ever gets unlocked the way we want, its gonna be an iconic mobile for the android community
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I understand where you are coming from Roudlouni but the point of the matter is he is getting a sensation at a very good price close to him, it isnt valid for another handset and he has found it attractive, the sgs2 is an ugly piece of ****.
at the end of the day ITS COMING. whether htc are unlocking the bootloader or alpha rev x is as he has already posted proof of s off.
the point is. ITS coming
Its not as if he sensation will never ever be unlocked. There is already youtube proof its S-off'd by Alpha Rev, we are just waiting for him to give us the S-off
so you might as well get it before its gone if you like it
its way better than the desire WAY BETTER.
Gingerbread already supports apps2sd. so thats not an issue at the moment.
but the dev section is about to kick off as soon as we have s off. my guesses are within the next week or two alpharev will release his exploit to S-OFF.
Your main reason of upgrading was the pathetic internal memory and yes the sensation has more than the desire. and once u get a custom rom on it you will be able to do much more.
head over to the SGS2 threads, the phone was s-off on stock and its been out for a few months, how many roms are there, the dev support is minor and small, hardly worth bothering, but guaranteed if its anything like the DHD threads.
The sensation thread will be crammed to suit your flashaholic needs
believe me i own a sensation it is a good device, just patiently waiting for S-off.
My main reason for upgrading my device from Desire is the pathetic internal memory of the Desire (beside of course better proc)...even CM7 partition, A2SD+, data2ext, etc. are not really solving this issue...
ikhzter said:
the point is. ITS coming
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I have learned that there is no guarantee that these things will come. Either root is available now or it is not available now. I do not recommend buying a device now and expecting it to be upgraded in the future.
Many times a hardware vendor has promised an update that either never came or turned out to be a piece of crap. Many times people with great intentions have tried to put a 3rd party hack together and it just didn't work out the way they hoped.
I HOPE options for the Sensation open up in the future. Some may EXPECT it. But time will tell.
Coming from a real world user of the phone..its the best phone I have used on T-mobile system. Are there issues? Yes battery life is not the best but expected from this type of phone, I have a abnormal reboot issue that happens at time. The sense 3.0 seems laggy at times and the dumb T-mobile apps that are on the phone are annoying. But when the root comes, this phone should be one hell of a phone,
May I put some conclution from your comments?
For me, unlocked bootloader is very important, as important as permanent root, installing custom ROMs, etc.
I believe I should wait till htc has unlocked the bootloader, the price will also eventually go down in time....but by then, EVO 3D will be more tempting..
I know that the Iphone 4S isn't out yet.
And I know this is a developer's forum.
But I was hoping to get some insights with my problem.
I plan on getting either of this phone as a gift for my father.
He won't be installing any custom roms and will probably stick with the stock UI (sense).
He isn't that old, late 40's so he will still be able to use stock android OS no problem such as Touchwiz and Sense.
So...that's my situation.
Should I get the Sensation XE (Stock with no plans of using custom roms) or iphone 4s?
A thing that has me concerned right off the bat is the 1GB internal storage of the Sensation XE compared to the iphone 4s.
Has this been a major problem for you guys with installing apps and games?
Thanks.
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I know that the Iphone 4S isn't out yet.
And I know this is a developer's forum.
But I was hoping to get some insights with my problem.
I plan on getting either of this phone as a gift for my father.
He won't be installing any custom roms and will probably stick with the stock UI (sense).
He isn't that old, late 40's so he will still be able to use stock android OS no problem such as Touchwiz and Sense.
So...that's my situation.
Should I get the Sensation XE (Stock with no plans of using custom roms) or iphone 4s?
A thing that has me concerned right off the bat is the 1GB internal storage of the Sensation XE compared to the iphone 4s.
Has this been a major problem for you guys with installing apps and games?
Thanks.
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Sounds like an Iphone 4s would fit him. As much as it hurt me to say that. Hooe I don't burn in hell for this Lord.
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No problems with apps or games for me but I'm on cooked roms! The HTC Sensation & XDA support rock! I don't like Apple sauce or big brother...u get the picture!
Def get the iPhone 4s. You wouldn't want a crippled locked up device that has a super boring interface that's looked the same since its original launch just a different case rehash. Def get the 4s...
this has to be the weirdest place to ask if you should buy an iphone. this is an android forum. what do think, we all want iphones but settle for android? The 1gig of internal storage you will NEVER fill. And android has apps2sd, meaning you can install apps on the sd card, so... infinite storage for apps.
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I know that the Iphone 4S isn't out yet.
And I know this is a developer's forum.
But I was hoping to get some insights with my problem.
I plan on getting either of this phone as a gift for my father.
He won't be installing any custom roms and will probably stick with the stock UI (sense).
He isn't that old, late 40's so he will still be able to use stock android OS no problem such as Touchwiz and Sense.
So...that's my situation.
Should I get the Sensation XE (Stock with no plans of using custom roms) or iphone 4s?
A thing that has me concerned right off the bat is the 1GB internal storage of the Sensation XE compared to the iphone 4s.
Has this been a major problem for you guys with installing apps and games?
Thanks.
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Sounds like an iPhone 4S is better for him.
Selling point of android is customization. I would go with the iPhone.
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Tough question.
iPhones are known for their ease of use,but when they screw up .... lookout.
TBH,the Android platform is nice,once you get used to it.
The removable SD card is a nice feature.
I also like that the OS isn't kept under strict control like the Apple OS.
The removable battery is great too.
BTW: my phone isn't rooted and I'm 53 years old.
I still haven't found anything I'd take over my Sensation and I have looked at all the "superphones" out there.
There are really only three good reasons to choose a Sensation over an iPhone (4s or otherwise):
1) Cost This is really the biggie for me: because I'm on T-Mo/Sensation, instead of ATT/iPhone, I'm saving over $100 a month on our family plan. That's over $2500 over the next two years, which is unbelievably important for me at this juncture in my life.
2) Hackability Now, I know you can hack your iPhone, but really if you're interested in getting into the nitty-gritty of seeing how a smartphone runs "under the hood" then you want an Android phone. This probably won't matter much to your dad.
3) Screen Size A 4.3-inch screen gives you 50% more screen area than a 3.5-inch screen. In my case, this is important because I have low vision, so the extra pixel density of the iPhone is a complete waste on me; far more important is having everything be as large as possible, so I don't need to break out a magnifying glass as often to read stuff on my phone. This might matter to your dad, especially if his eyes are starting to go (I know it was a consideration for my mom when we were looking for a new phone for her).
If none of those are a concern... then it probably doesn't matter either way which one you choose. If your dad really wants that Retina display, or to brag to everyone that he has an iPhone, then get him an iPhone. If he's addicted to iTunes, or is already very familiar/in love with the Apple ecosystem, get him an iPhone. If you guys want to stick with Verizon or AT&T over T-mo, get an iPhone. Otherwise... get whatever's on sale.
Comparing the 100% stock Sensation XE to the iPhone 4S - go for the 4S
Whereas I LOVE my Sensation, and I'd never get an iPhone as I don't use any Apple products, my GF has an iPhone 4 and it does exactly what she wants it to do. Battery life is awesome compared to the stock Sensation, but with my personal ROM it's comparable
Ha..went through this my self and had exactly the same considerations.
I know its not exactly the answer to your question...but I actually decided WP7 was the way to go for my father. Its also super easy to ease and he totally loves it + you can get some really good value handsets (HTC7 Pro about GBP220 simfree).
I know we all love knocking it - but MS stuff does have some merrit. Lots of us loved good ole WinMo for a long time. But now I think they're designing more for the market you describe you know? Give it some consideration maybe?
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Comparing the 100% stock Sensation XE to the iPhone 4S - go for the 4S
Whereas I LOVE my Sensation, and I'd never get an iPhone as I don't use any Apple products, my GF has an iPhone 4 and it does exactly what she wants it to do. Battery life is awesome compared to the stock Sensation, but with my personal ROM it's comparable
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Completely agree - the 4S would be easier to use, and faster than a stock Sensation. Rooted, the Sensation is as fast, fluid and nice to use as an iPhone. Unrooted, the iPhone wins hands down, and I imagine the 4S would be even better (although Apple's had the fluidity thing down since the 3GS).
I probably wouldn't buy an iPhone, but they're great for mums and dads and they work really well outta the box.
EDIT: didn't see DJ's post but WP7 is also great for the parents, we got one for my girlfriend's dad who's a complete technophobe and he manages it no problem
I think apples integration with itunes and all that would be confusing. Id go android or wp7, which btw is ridiculously easy to navigate.
If I were to get a smart phone for one of my parents I would get them an iPhone, even though I would get Android for myself.
Just because he's older dosent mean he can't use an android phone. I personally prefer screen space so automatically the I-phone loses in that dept. I've really tried to use iPhones before and they just leave me wanting more. If he's gonna leave both phones stock then I would go with the Amaze. The 1 gb of ram on phone makes it really snappy and the Camera is awesome.I personally have a sensation and since all the best features of these other high end phones are showing up here I see no reason to switch phones now. Good luck with whatever you choose
If he is tuff on phones go with the Sensation. If he isn't iphone 4s. Also what cell provider does he plan on using? Sprint and ATT would be good but Verizon would suck. Also if he uses the internet alot I would say Sensation do to the faster speed of the t-mobile network and better data plans.
I had to reply to this I'm 46 years old in December and have no problems what so ever finding my way round an Android device
Actually this is my third one to date out of the box they work great
Yet my old mind still has no problems debranding , s-off, rooting and installing custom roms so they can't be that bad if I can comprehend them at my age
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App
craig1965 said:
I had to reply to this I'm 46 years old in December and have no problems what so ever finding my way round an Android device
Actually this is my third one to date out of the box they work great
Yet my old mind still has no problems debranding, s-off, rooting and installing custom roms so they can't be that bad if I can comprehend them at my age
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App
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Cool. My mom is in her 60s and doesn't know how to check voicemail on her cell. My parents got their first computer about 7 years ago and a month later asked me why it was running really slow; I took a look and found that about 30 instances of internet explorer were minimized. They would minimize IE when they were done and then open another instance later.
They were paying a local IPS for internet access and also paying AOL to view the content they had access to... need I go on?
craig1965 said:
I had to reply to this I'm 46 years old in December and have no problems what so ever finding my way round an Android device
Actually this is my third one to date out of the box they work great
Yet my old mind still has no problems debranding , s-off, rooting and installing custom roms so they can't be that bad if I can comprehend them at my age
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App
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That's all well and good but this thread is comparing the stock Sensation to the iPhone 4S and, I'm sorry, the 4S IS the better phone. Android is awesome but for anyone just wanting a phone to work should get the iPhone as they'll just end up complaining
Yes you are correct it is getting off topic however that said the versions of IOS I have seen and used for a while I've found it a horrible operating system to work around the android OS is far more user friendly and 1 gig of internal memory is more than enough space for your average person add in the fact the android market has more free apps than apple
My personal choice android by far
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So my buddy got the HTC One M8 running Windows Phone as an upgrade. He wanted the Android version, but when it came time to buy they had none left in stock so he got this one instead.
He still wants Android, though, so my question is this: is there any known method to install Android onto an M8 that originally came with WP? I understand it would probably need a different recovery installed, but beings as the hardware is exactly the same.
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So my buddy got the HTC One M8 running Windows Phone as an upgrade. He wanted the Android version, but when it came time to buy they had none left in stock so he got this one instead.
He still wants Android, though, so my question is this: is there any known method to install Android onto an M8 that originally came with WP? I understand it would probably need a different recovery installed, but beings as the hardware is exactly the same.
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Nope there is no method and probably never will be. There is no wide developer audience and with a possible Windows M9 coming they most likely won't bother this far into the year.
Is this still the same answer?
Considering the pros and cons of immediately changing from Verizon M8 to a newer phone; e.g., M9, S6, S6 Edge, or LG G4, Loss of S-Off and Root is a serious concern with availability of the outstanding ROMS for the M8, and the ability to completely eliminate unwanted bloatware. Notwithstanding the Antutu performance specs for the S6 and S6 Edge, Samsung acknowledges significant Memory Leak issues in routine use of these devices, without constant initialized rebooting. Alternatively, the Verizon M8, running the CM 12.1 ROM with Android 5.1.1 yields typical non-initialized boot Antutu scores exceeding 48000, tweaked, which actually exceeds Antutu typical non initialized boot scores of the Samsung devices during continuous operation.
Until, S-OFF and Rooting become available for device optimization both in terms of ROM features and bloatware elimination; and until these newer devices catch up with Android 5.1.1 and solve the significant Memory Leak issues, remaining with the Verizon M8, for now, is very sensible.
I remember when android was new and every new phone had this instant gigantic dev community ahh those were the days...
In the beginning cutting edge new android phones weren't coming out once a month like now It was all but guaranteed your phone would get SOME kind of development and momentum. I'm staying with my m8 for some of the reasons you state too. Like the fact that its already had all this time for the roms and community around it to mature. Every release cycle it becomes more of a possibility you might pick the latest and greatest model, and the one or two highly skilled devs needed to get the phone to root/unlock/whatever never materialises and before long something else newer is out and...your stuck with the phone the way you bought it or get a new one!
Every time I go to look for a new phone it's becoming harder to decide and narrow it down to one when weighing all factors. Being a card carrying techie pretty much requires a device has a decent XDA community for it though.
I recently had my VZW M8 damaged quiet bad so i was looking into getting a new phone. And basically this comparing all the new stuff coming out/is out, nothing really seems all that safe of a bet when it comes to the respective XDA community of the device. Nothing picks up momentum like in the old day, rooting is even more of a hit or miss it seems. Really i'm almost feeling a side grade to a nexus 6 or something might be in order. As much as i love the m8 i'm really getting sick and tired of the metal body... I like plastic a whole lot more but i HATE the cheap plastic every samsung phone seems to have!
Long story short, upgrading is hard yo.
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I remember when android was new and every new phone had this instant gigantic dev community ahh those were the days...
In the beginning cutting edge new android phones weren't coming out once a month like now It was all but guaranteed your phone would get SOME kind of development and momentum. I'm staying with my m8 for some of the reasons you state too. Like the fact that its already had all this time for the roms and community around it to mature. Every release cycle it becomes more of a possibility you might pick the latest and greatest model, and the one or two highly skilled devs needed to get the phone to root/unlock/whatever never materialises and before long something else newer is out and...your stuck with the phone the way you bought it or get a new one!
Every time I go to look for a new phone it's becoming harder to decide and narrow it down to one when weighing all factors. Being a card carrying techie pretty much requires a device has a decent XDA community for it though.
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As you say, the collective community of the endless efforts to improve the M8 with extremely satisfying results, certainly outweighs the very short-lived glitz feeling of possessing one of these new devices.
holytimes said:
I recently had my VZW M8 damaged quiet bad so i was looking into getting a new phone. And basically this comparing all the new stuff coming out/is out, nothing really seems all that safe of a bet when it comes to the respective XDA community of the device. Nothing picks up momentum like in the old day, rooting is even more of a hit or miss it seems. Really i'm almost feeling a side grade to a nexus 6 or something might be in order. As much as i love the m8 i'm really getting sick and tired of the metal body... I like plastic a whole lot more but i HATE the cheap plastic every samsung phone seems to have!
Long story short, upgrading is hard yo.
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I agree 100%, upgrading is hard. I cannot bring myself to purchase one of these new Verizon devices now, completely devoid of the S-OFF, rooting, and developer community achievements.
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I agree 100%, upgrading is hard. I cannot bring myself to purchase one of these new Verizon devices now, completely devoid of the S-OFF, rooting, and developer community achievements.
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Lot of m9 users have gotten s-off already via Java card. It's not all bad. Sunshine will also get updated.
dottat said:
Lot of m9 users have gotten s-off already via Java card. It's not all bad. Sunshine will also get updated.
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As you say, eventually all that we enjoy now with our M8 will be available with these new Verizon devices, and that is when many of us will not hesitate to change.
The m9 really doesn't look like much of an upgrade to me. I don't think it is worth the money, my m8 works great, I have s-off I didn't have to buy a java card to get, and plenty of ROMs to choose from. I'll be sticking with the m8. At least till I can get an m9 for cheap or the next flagship phone comes out from HTC.
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The m9 really doesn't look like much of an upgrade to me. I don't think it is worth the money, my m8 works great, I have s-off I didn't have to buy a java card to get, and plenty of ROMs to choose from. I'll be sticking with the m8. At least till I can get an m9 for cheap or the next flagship phone comes out from HTC.
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Absolutely, currently, taking all of the new devices into consideration, without the development of ROMs and easy ability to debloat, remaining with the M8 for now is a wise choice.
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Absolutely, currently, taking all of the new devices into consideration, without the development of ROMs and easy ability to debloat, remaining with the M8 for now is a wise choice.
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Just so we're straight the m9 already had a viper rom posted. We have @ΠΣΘ @andybones @Tigerstown @santod040 all with this device and working on dev. There's plenty happening in the last week or so...
5.1 is looking realllllly nice for the m9 also.
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Just so we're straight the m9 already had a viper rom posted. We have @ΠΣΘ @andybones @Tigerstown @santod040 all with this device and working on dev. There's plenty happening in the last week or so...
5.1 is looking realllllly nice for the m9 also.
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Worth hundreds of dollars over m8?
mpappas87 said:
Worth hundreds of dollars over m8?
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Depends upon whether you want the latest hardware and the most firmware updates. True volte (I'm beginning to seriously doubt the m8 will get it knowing vzw). For the record, I don't buy subsidized phones ever. I'm happy with my m9 over my m8. Feels so much more premium. Heck it's got metal speaker grills instead of stickers finally.
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Depends upon whether you want the latest hardware and the most firmware updates. True volte (I'm beginning to seriously doubt the m8 will get it knowing vzw). For the record, I don't buy subsidized phones ever. I'm happy with my m9 over my m8. Feels so much more premium. Heck it's got metal speaker grills instead of stickers finally.
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That's kinda my point though I got hundreds invested in m8 is the m9 really worth it? For what a better camera and some better speaker grills?
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Just so we're straight the m9 already had a viper rom posted. We have @ΠΣΘ @andybones @Tigerstown @santod040 all with this device and working on dev. There's plenty happening in the last week or so...
5.1 is looking realllllly nice for the m9 also.
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And we currently have Cm 12.1 with 5.1.1 for the M8. I believe that until Samsung can solve its memory leak issues, changing immediately to a Verizon S6 or S6 Edge is more of a loss than a gain. More of a loss than a signifcant gain for changing immediately to the M9. The same for the LG G4 when available. And I say this, in large part, out of respect for the excellent work which you and your colleagues have perfected for the M8. Thank you for your tireless efforts in this regard.
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Even with the advent of the one-click root method for the Verizon S6 and perhaps S6 Edge, the unlockable bootloader prevails, making it currently impossible to install a TWRP recovery, which for me is not sufficient incentive to change, now, from my Verizon M8.
HTC said they will let us know soon about dates when Pie will be released but it's been forever ago.
Also is the U12 xda scene dead or HTC themselves dead? I know the way the U12 handles everything, it's tough to makes roms for it etc. Or maybe not many really bothered to even buy the phone because HTC is just not doing well. HTC needs to fix themselves. Get with the norm. Bessless phones, wireless charging etc. Make a phone that blows every other phone out the water with fantastic marketing and they'll get back to the top.
Marketing isn't going to happen. Did you even compare how much money HTC owns, with how expensive global marketing is. Obviously not, cause we got to accept the fact, that marketing isn't an option for HTC to grow.
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Funny how the discussions aremore lively in the U11 area. Anyhow, I saw a great deal on a u12+ today and despite hunting for an s9+ 256gb Duos, I was tempted and then ran here to verify if it got Pie. Shocking that it has not, which means more than likely my u11 is OOL with the last update having been made in Dec 2017.
The apparent thing is that HTC is contacting its smartphone business and its Asian models- its core market- are being ignored for updates, so that tells me everything.
If the current U12 isn't being updated, then the u11 is out, and I am onto Samsung. I can wait until the s10 is announced, then s9 prices will fall. Same for the u12 128. I like the Edge and the cameras. They keep me connected to the phone, but security and future support seems to have been ended.
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HTC said they will let us know soon about dates when Pie will be released but it's been forever ago.
Also is the U12 xda scene dead or HTC themselves dead? I know the way the U12 handles everything, it's tough to makes roms for it etc. Or maybe not many really bothered to even buy the phone because HTC is just not doing well. HTC needs to fix themselves. Get with the norm. Bessless phones, wireless charging etc. Make a phone that blows every other phone out the water with fantastic marketing and they'll get back to the top.
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Pie is coming, be patient...
@maslaq where you have found this table?
Someone well informed from taiwan just sent me
maslaq said:
Someone well informed from taiwan just sent me
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Do you follow this guy on any social app?
maslaq said:
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HTC U11 life has been upgraded to Android Pie.
https://www.xda-developers.com/htc-u11-life-android-pie-update/
This list is just a clickbait of random website.
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Pie is coming, be patient...
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Link to this tweet?
GaetanoS.89 said:
Do you follow this guy on any social app?
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No.
Just wait patiently.
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HTC U11 life has been upgraded to Android Pie.
https://www.xda-developers.com/htc-u11-life-android-pie-update/
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I think there are two versions of the U11 Life, one with Android One (which has already been update), and one with stock Sense (which has not).
For those bashing people about being unreasonable about expectations for security and software updates, HTC has a binding Federal Trade Commission settlement due to past issues in providing security updates. The FTC also performs inspections of the company every two years as part of the settlement.
https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/pre...-ftc-charges-it-failed-secure-millions-mobile
My guess is that if HTC is violating this judgement, the smartphone division is in trouble or maybe it's planning to pull out of the US at a minimum. Since there's a judgement, if you're in the US, you could contact the FTC to see if there is current compliance with the settlement terms.
Have any of you seen some of the complaints about Pie? I'm not so sure I'm in an all fired hurry to get it and I am one that is usually chomping at the bit for the latest OS update. It also seems that the issue with our delay is Sense. I don't know much about the Life versions of the U11 and the U12 but I'm guessing they don't have the same version of Sense or any Sense. I'm just guessing here because from what I've been seeing from people testing beta versions and some that have the full version it doesn't play nice with launchers.
https://twitter.com/LlabTooFeR/status/1095945078655332352
A new update is coming, but not Pie.
An update, any update is taking entirely too long
Ndaoud360 said:
HTC said they will let us know soon about dates when Pie will be released but it's been forever ago.
Also is the U12 xda scene dead or HTC themselves dead? I know the way the U12 handles everything, it's tough to makes roms for it etc. Or maybe not many really bothered to even buy the phone because HTC is just not doing well. HTC needs to fix themselves. Get with the norm. Bessless phones, wireless charging etc. Make a phone that blows every other phone out the water with fantastic marketing and they'll get back to the top.
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VidJunky said:
Have any of you seen some of the complaints about Pie? I'm not so sure I'm in an all fired hurry to get it and I am one that is usually chomping at the bit for the latest OS update. It also seems that the issue with our delay is Sense. I don't know much about the Life versions of the U11 and the U12 but I'm guessing they don't have the same version of Sense or any Sense. I'm just guessing here because from what I've been seeing from people testing beta versions and some that have the full version it doesn't play nice with launchers.
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For the 500th time: Android OS updates and sexurity updates are separate, with HTC delinquent on the latter, coupling them to former. This is why people are upset. The security updates are actually mandatory for HTC's compliance with a settlement with the Federal Trade Commission in the US and why we bexame accustomed to them being on top of things. Lack of compliance with the settlement is indicating the company is not going in a good direction.
Again: OS updates and security updates are not the same thing and people want both, often calling for the former in order to get the latter.
I Think The King is over and HTC on end of way.......i buy htc device from hd2 to this u11+ and u12+ but i think we should search for other king for use
I dropped my U11 a few days ago and looked around for a different brands but just couldn't cut the apron strings with HTC so bought a U12+. Love it so far but i'm pretty sure this purely familiarity on my part as there are some cracking phones around for less right now but the update situation, both security & pie is dismal especially with no comm's from htc itsself, that's just sloppy & extremely bad form...
smudgelab said:
I dropped my U11 a few days ago and looked around for a different brands but just couldn't cut the apron strings with HTC so bought a U12+. Love it so far but i'm pretty sure this purely familiarity on my part as there are some cracking phones around for less right now but the update situation, both security & pie is dismal especially with no comm's from htc itsself, that's just sloppy & extremely bad form...
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I was just saying in another thread that the UI, namely Sense, was a key factor in my picking this device. The specs aren't bad either and the look was the talk of the town, not that it influenced me as much as the substance of the device, but it darn sure didn't hurt.
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I Think The King is over and HTC on end of way.......i buy htc device from hd2 to this u11+ and u12+ but i think we should search for other king for use
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I'd love to hear from other HTC fans like me what their thoughts are on the next device. Honestly I'm kind of stumped on this one and given great pause at the thought of leaving. I've had some sour experiences with Moto and Sammy but that was back in the flip phone days. That Sony phone awhile back looked pretty good until I read about its custom UI. Huawei has some interesting devices and with HTC I never had to consider screen notches. Motos and their battery life issues, not that HTC always got it right. Sammys have a lot of features, some are even pretty cool, eye tracking for screen scroll, blink gestures but... Anyone really got any strong hopefuls?