I'm sorry if this has been asked already.
I'm very interested in getting a Samsung Vibrant. I wasn't a big fan of Android at first, but it's really growing on me. However, I have absolutely no interest in getting a data plan -- Everywhere I frequent has open wi-fi. If I got the phone, I know no carrier would let me leave the store without a data plan, so I'd just get one on eBay.
Is it possible to completely disable data, contact/email syncing, cloud connection, etc. and still use the full capabilities of an Android phone through wi-fi without screwing anything up? I've heard that if you don't have a data connection it's possible that your contacts will delete themselves when the phone tries to sync -- Is this true? Is there anything I should know about using Android without data, or are there any apps I should get to help with the whole process?
I have no data plan at all, G1 on T-Mobile. Vibrant shouldn't give you any problems, but if you're worried about contacts deleting (which has never happened to me), you can turn sync on and off, so just toggle it when you connect to wi-fi. Glad to see more interest in Android, hope you can make some contributions to the community.
Thanks for the info -- I didn't know you could actually toggle the syncing!
I hope I get more into Android, too. I'm a huge Windows Mobile person right now, but after looking at the Vibrant, I think I've been converted.
I also hope I can help in the community a bit, too -- I've been coming here for a long time, and I think you guys are amazing at what you do.
guitargler said:
I have no data plan at all, G1 on T-Mobile. Vibrant shouldn't give you any problems, but if you're worried about contacts deleting (which has never happened to me), you can turn sync on and off, so just toggle it when you connect to wi-fi. Glad to see more interest in Android, hope you can make some contributions to the community.
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I'm sorry, I've got one more thing to ask: So can you disable ALL data, except for the phone data (calls, texts, etc.)? I can actually still get apps and do pretty much everything data allows all through wi-fi without any issues?
You can do syncing/cloud connection over WiFi too.
Thee other say my wife forgot to pay her bill.they shut her phone off.. Connected phone to wifi in the house and was able to use google talk email market... No text or calls though
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well i had a first gen my touch 3g, i unlocked it and put it on att. what i endened up doing was i set up a different apn and since the settings were wrong i couldnt get on the internet. i could be wrong, but i think thats what kept me from getting on the net with it. and then i realized i had a data plan on my contract so i put the correct info for the apn and got data.
U can delete all your APN Info so that your phone will not be able to connect via 3G or Edge only with WIFI ;-)
Have fun with this great os!
There is literally an option in the network settings to disable the "mobile network". This disables internet/3g data traffic but does not affect call/text (that is not considered "data").
Also, Android actually disables the mobile network connection when Wifi is active (at least on CDMA devices)
Awesome, this is exactly what I was looking for. I have no idea why I was told it wasn't worth using Android without data - This all sounds like just what I had planned to do. Thanks, everyone! :-D
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Also, Android actually disables the mobile network connection when Wifi is active (at least on CDMA devices)
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Relying on that alone won't work as soon as you get in the car with the phone...when it loses the wifi connection, it looks for a cell data connection again. You are right though, so long as it has a wifi connection, it doesn't look for 3G data at all.
People say it's no use having Android without data because there's literally TONS of awesome stuff you can do with data (Google Maps walking turn-by-turn, for example. And Zombie, Run!, which is the best game ever made). But if you're like me and are cheap/broke, or you just don't see yourself using data much, you'll be golden. But I think as you get into Android more and discover what you *could* be doing, you'll want to add data. I intend to put data on when I upgrade
i dn't have a data plan and when i attempt to use a data connection w/o wifi i get an msg from my provider (asking if i really want to and telling me how much it will cost). If your provider allows you access to their data network without you agreeing and then charges you that's pretty bull**** and i would definitely switch providers.
I'm considering moving away from my WP7 device. It doesn't appear to have much resale value so I was thinking of giving it to my son to replace his again original iPhone.
I don't want to pay for data and honestly would prefer him not online at all for now.
First can I disable data on the phone in a way that wouldn't let him turn it back on easily, perhpaps through a diagnistic code? Any way to disable wifi again to make it tough to turn back on?
Next, how usable is the phone with data disabled? So much uses the internet that its hard to tell what would happen. For instance, would all the XBOX games still work? What would be broken? People hub I'm guessing, not sure what else.
Thanks!
You can always just take out the SIM card I suppose? Or do you want it keep as a phone and not just gaming device?
There is an off-switch for data connection in Settings, it prevents from connecting all together I think.
Btw, what device is it?
Games work with no data. Even livegames, you just won'thave the benefits of live (acheovents, posting scores online) Phone works.
Turn off data through settings to see how it works.
Do you have a focus?
I think there might be a diagnosis setting that will turn off data. I'll check.
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I have been using it on a no-data plan for 6 months now...no problems whatsoever, except for navigation, which depends on data connection to pull maps...but even GPS gets a lock without data. I have apps like Weave installed that cache data for reading while away from WiFi or in commute...
If Settings you can disable Data & WiFi as has been stated. As for hiding them so it'd not be easy to re-enable, it should be possible through the registry to add a redirect reg value. I'm not sure how to implement that though & of course you'd need it unlocked & a registry editor installed. Also, the device can get internet via a USB link with Zune. So, if he's at home where he has access to a pc/laptop with internet, the device would still get data, but as he'd have internet access anyway via the pc/laptop.
@kapanak: GPS should work find if you are using Navigon as it has the maps installed locally.
Hello, im just wondering if there is an app for Root or NonRoot devices where I could use the available WiFi and transmit it out of the phone like a Mobile Network Hotspot?
The purpose of this is because I cannot connect my New 3DS to my collages WiFi as it required an Identity, Anonymus Identity, and a Password, Im only able to type in the Password but nothing else and that doesnt work. I could use my phones hotspot but I only get 1GB of data per month, so i don't want to waste it.
Long story short/In other words, is there a way i can use my phone as a Hotspot/WiFi but use the WiFi Network it is connected to instead of the cellphone data.
Similar on how you can use a Laptop as a Hotspot with its own Password aside from the Network one.
Hi!
I'm not having luck searching on this issue, since every result involves data. You will need to ask about that here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help
Good luck!
So i've been a user of xda for quite sometime, however i never really contributed before so i'd like to share my latest discoveries and hopefully i can help someone in the future.
(Please note this is for intermediate users i will not be going into full details. Feel free to google any keywords here for further information)
Please note this will erase your device!
Disclaimer: I am not responsible for anything you do to your device ie: damages. Proceed at your own risk
This is a tutorial on how to get unlimited tethering on an LG V10 Tmobile
First you will need to unlock bootloader and get TWRP so you can flash SuperSU and get root.
I used a combination of these two guides. DOTtech i just used to get LGUP. I do not believe the .kdz (refurbish) step is necessary.
https://dottech.org/198032/how-to-root-lg-v10-t-mobile-h901-on-android-6-0-marshmallow/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-lg-v10/general/root-android-6-0-h901-t3382819
make sure you use this .tot file from xda (most updated, July) link
once you have flashed the tot file. make sure you download supersu and save it on your phone. Link Here .You will need to boot into recovery mode. The best way i found to boot into recovery mode is to use "adb reboot recovery" command via adb command terminal. For help on setting up adb, usb debugging, and oem unlock. follow the youtube video below. Do not follow his recovery flash steps. (That is Outdated!). once you have adb set up, phone on, open a terminal, navigate to your adb folder and run the "adb reboot recovery" command. Phone will boot into TWRP. Find your SuperSU file. Flash it. You are now rooted!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPLwFGxLQA4
once you have root....
you will need wifi tether router from fabio grasso. Buy it. best money ever spent.
next you will need to edit your build prop.
download es file explorer. build prop is just a text file. enable root explorer in es file explorer. navigate to your root folder/system.
under system you will find build.prop. open with es text editor. at the end of the text file insert
net.tethering.noprovisioning=true
hit back. and it will ask you to save. save it!
This will allow our wifi tether router app to work properly.
reboot your phone.
open your wifi tether router app. The most important setting here is under method. Use Native! This will tell wifi tether router to port it's connection through your native hotspot app.
You should now be ready to go.
Now, how do we prevent Tmobile from noticing our traffic is being tethered?
We need to change a few settings on our computers. You will want to change your defaultTTL to 65 (decimal) on all your PCs.
For details on that follow this youtube video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZOqm98kzIU
for windows 10 its a little bit different. Use this command in a terminal.
netsh int ipv4 set glob defaultcurhoplimit=65
This should prevent Tmobile from noticing and counting your hotspot data.
If i missed anything, please feel free to message me along with any other questions.
Cheers!
Hi,
What are your setup parameters for Wi-Fi Tether?
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Encryption wpa2-psk
wifi channel 1
interface wlan0
method 4 -native tether
auto disconnect wifi when start tethering (check)
wifi scanning autodisabler (check)
i also root disabled all tmobile apps especially com.tmobile.pr.adapt
Good Luck!
When was the last time you've checked your usage? I'm using a vpn (in addition to build.prop and settings.db "hacks") as well, so not sure how they see it now. I'll change my TTL on the pc as next precaution. Vpn used to be the bullet proof method, but they're getting sneakier.
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When was the last time you've checked your usage? I'm using a vpn (in addition to build.prop and settings.db "hacks") as well, so not sure how they see it now. I'll change my TTL on the pc as next precaution. Vpn used to be the bullet proof method, but they're getting sneakier.
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My apologies to everyone, i guess my post was a little premature. I just got the text message today saying i've used 80% of my mobile hotspot. RussianBear, i am interested in your settings.db hack. What is the purpose of that hack, and also what vpn do you use?
The TTL was a game changer for me with my S5. The problem i am running into with the LG V10 is that in the wifi tether router app, the hostapd method would not work anymore. I "enable wifi router" and i can't see my hotspot.
Russianbear, how far along have you gotten with this. Maybe we can help each other. Can you see your hotspot via wifi tether router? What are your wifi tether router settings? The only way i was able to activate it was with the Native method, however i believe the native hotspot embedded with the phone sends packets to tmobile.
I was wondering also if a custom rom can help me in this situation. It seems as though the native hotspot does not allow third party apps like "wifi tether router" to activate the hotspot. Can anyone recommend a good stable custom rom that can help me accomplish this?
Cheers!
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My apologies to everyone, i guess my post was a little premature. I just got the text message today saying i've used 80% of my mobile hotspot. RussianBear, i am interested in your settings.db hack. What is the purpose of that hack, and also what vpn do you use?
The TTL was a game changer for me with my S5. The problem i am running into with the LG V10 is that in the wifi tether router app, the hostapd method would not work anymore. I "enable wifi router" and i can't see my hotspot.
Russianbear, how far along have you gotten with this. Maybe we can help each other. Can you see your hotspot via wifi tether router? What are your wifi tether router settings? The only way i was able to activate it was with the Native method, however i believe the native hotspot embedded with the phone sends packets to tmobile.
I was wondering also if a custom rom can help me in this situation. It seems as though the native hotspot does not allow third party apps like "wifi tether router" to activate the hotspot. Can anyone recommend a good stable custom rom that can help me accomplish this?
Cheers!
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I'm using private internet access vpn. Not currently using any play store apps, just my native usb/wi-fi tether, but it looks like they upped their game this month, as I've already ran out of hotspot data lol
The settings db "hack" was forcing zero flag inside a settings database. In MM it was moved to this location:
/data/system/users/userid/settings_[system|global|secure].xml"
On V10 it's under global.xml - search for tether_dun and make sure that's 0.
You can also try using adb or terminal emulator and execute commands found here:
https://pmf.silvrback.com/fixing-tethering-on-android-kitkat
I'm using the same settings but my usage keeps going up
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I have to find a way to get wifi tether router working on this phone. Wifi tether plus DefaultTTL will fix this. If anybody tries wifi tether and gets it to work with LG V10 please let me know. Maybe its my phone. I did use the .tot file in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-lg-v10/general/root-android-6-0-h901-t3382819
I'm thinking maybe that might have corrupted something and is not letting me activate my hotspot via wifi tether router.
Looks like adjusting ttl has worked for now.
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Looks like adjusting ttl has worked for now.
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Can you please explain where and how you did this?
I'll try this, but dont think it will work. I've used Wifi Tether Router alot before, but that was before Tmo started cracking down on heavy tether users not too long ago. Now if I try to use it, they always notice quickly. I also did the no provisioning trick but same results. I created a new APN with a guide I found, same thing. I didnt change any values on my other devices' end. I've heard it helps if you use a different DNS server but dont know for sure. It may also help if you use a different user agent.
I do believe the days of unlimited tethering with Tmo are over, I've tried lots of tricks but didnt get far.
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Can you please explain where and how you did this?
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use the video from the op above.
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I'll try this, but dont think it will work. I've used Wifi Tether Router alot before, but that was before Tmo started cracking down on heavy tether users not too long ago. Now if I try to use it, they always notice quickly. I also did the no provisioning trick but same results. I created a new APN with a guide I found, same thing. I didnt change any values on my other devices' end. I've heard it helps if you use a different DNS server but dont know for sure. It may also help if you use a different user agent.
I do believe the days of unlimited tethering with Tmo are over, I've tried lots of tricks but didnt get far.
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Invest into a good vpn service.
@RussianBear: I actually use a VPN on my phone most of the time. However, by default, Android wont direct tethering to a VPN. I found a guide awhile back that shows how to use terminal commands to forcibly route through a VPN, it worked for quite awhile, but Tmo caught on eventually. I made sure the VPN and my script were already running before activating tethering. A VPN is supposed to be encrypted, so how they detected ne is beyond me. I guess they saw the sheer amount of data I was using and suspected tethering (over 500GB in one month, at the highest point).
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@RussianBear: I actually use a VPN on my phone most of the time. However, by default, Android wont direct tethering to a VPN. I found a guide awhile back that shows how to use terminal commands to forcibly route through a VPN, it worked for quite awhile, but Tmo caught on eventually. I made sure the VPN and my script were already running before activating tethering. A VPN is supposed to be encrypted, so how they detected ne is beyond me. I guess they saw the sheer amount of data I was using and suspected tethering (over 500GB in one month, at the highest point).
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Can you not enable vpn on the clients instead? I have my asus router set up with my vpn settings, so anything connecting to it automatically gets passed thru the vpn ip instead. Lower your ttl on desktop/laptop, do the build.prop entry, set ipv to 4 in settings, and set tether dun to 0 in settings.xml (I made a script for that). You should be to go with your vpn then.
Honestly I see almost no point in having unlimited tethering since your data is slowed down around 26gbs. I'm fine with the 7gb I have rn. If I were to make use of unlimited tethering, I'd need truly unlimited since I do very heavy usage on any of my computer's. Usually 700-900 GB a month(and that's only download. Upload is around 200gb a month). Used to have an at&t business hotspot that I paid $125/month and used 300 or so GB a month for three months with no slow downs on it.
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Honestly I see almost no point in having unlimited tethering since your data is slowed down around 26gbs. I'm fine with the 7gb I have rn. If I were to make use of unlimited tethering, I'd need truly unlimited since I do very heavy usage on any of my computer's. Usually 700-900 GB a month(and that's only download. Upload is around 200gb a month). Used to have an at&t business hotspot that I paid $125/month and used 300 or so GB a month for three months with no slow downs on it.
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Gotta pay to play. They "prioritize" your after 26, so it's not like it'll be slow 24/7. Annoying, sure. However, I haven't had home internet going on two years now. Worth it to me, based on my usage. With this tmo one stuff, they offer unlimited tethering, but of course, your primary usage has to be from your phone...
The victory was only half-way declared... They somehow know when device(s) that connect to my router are tethered. Router is setup with an openvpn configuration and connects to the vpn server automatically. All IPs check out, as well as ttl values, but they're still able to tell. One thing that was strange was if I did not enable vpn thru the router, but instead thru the client, the speeds remained constant - undetected. This is fine and dandy, but I'd lose my chromecast functionality this way... If things get rough and I can't finger this one out, I might hop onto to their unlimited everything for $95/month instead of the simple choice one I got now.
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use the video from the op above..
Invest into a good vpn service.
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If you have good home internet with VPN supported router, you can run VPN through your home
mingkee said:
If you have good home internet with VPN supported router, you can run VPN through your home
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Yes, but somehow they can tell...even with a vpn setup thru a router.
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Yes, but somehow they can tell...even with a vpn setup thru a router.
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They can tell tho the t mobile app the one the shows your data you have to delete it and delete this the one that has the red # by it, that how they track you and can see everything on your phone and know it you have root or not and anything you do on your phone .