Hi! Is it true that while the watch is connected over Bluetooth with the phone, the SIM in the watch is disabled?
I asked Huawei support and they said it's true. I want to receive calls on the watch, from the watch SIM, and also receive notifications from the phone on the watch, plus phone calls on the phone as usual.
I mean, can I use the watch as an independent cell phone for calls when connected using Bluetooth with a cell phone?
I don't have the watch to try it out, I'm considering buying it.
Thanks!
0sAND1s said:
Hi! Is it true that while the watch is connected over Bluetooth with the phone, the SIM in the watch is disabled?
I asked Huawei support and they said it's true. I want to receive calls on the watch, from the watch SIM, and also receive notifications from the phone on the watch, plus phone calls on the phone as usual.
I mean, can I use the watch as an independent cell phone for calls when connected using Bluetooth with a cell phone?
I don't have the watch to try it out, I'm considering buying it.
Thanks!
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I'm gonna answer my own questions, since I found the answer myself after buying the watch. Also, not even the Huawei support could not clarify this for me.
So by default, the cellular connectivity is configured as Auto, which indeed will turn off the SIM when connected with the phone over Bluetooth, to save power. But that option can be set to On, so the SIM will always be active, which is what I wanted. To save power, I also set the Preferred Network Type to 2G in the Advanced section. Also, the Smart Power Save feature can be set to disable the SIM card data, only leaving voice active, which should also save power if you don't need it.
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Hi,
Which features do I lose other then the obvious cell features if I turn off the cell radio on the Tmobile Gear S2? I only have bluetooth and wifi on, but the cell radio off. Believe it or not, I reached out to Samsung and they had no clue. They said that I wouldn't be able to make or receive a call via the watch connected to my phone via bluetooth or receive and reply to texts. Obviously they are wrong since I can do both. So what do I loose by not turning on the cell radio?
Thanks,
GP
dornier said:
Hi,
Which features do I lose other then the obvious cell features if I turn off the cell radio on the Tmobile Gear S2? I only have bluetooth and wifi on, but the cell radio off. Believe it or not, I reached out to Samsung and they had no clue. They said that I wouldn't be able to make or receive a call via the watch connected to my phone via bluetooth or receive and reply to texts. Obviously they are wrong since I can do both. So what do I loose by not turning on the cell radio?
Thanks,
GP
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Shouldn't lose anything other than the ability to make/receive calls and send/receive texts at the watch's phone number. By default, it only comes on when not connected via bluetooth anyway.
I just noticed my watch will not receive phone calls when it is connected to the phone through wifi. For example, when my phone is out of Bluetooth range, but still connected through Wifi, I can receive notifications, as well as receive and reply to texts, but calls are not forwarded.
I have the wifi only version of the Gear S3. Not the LTE version.
Anyone else experiencing this?
Do you have a non samsung phone? If you do then i think thats why because the call forwarding out of bluetooth range works a little different on samsung phones vs non samsung phones.
I do not think that non LTE S3s can receive calls on WiFi. They only pair via Bluetooth for calls. Data is ok for WiFi, but there was no mention for WiFi calling that I'm aware of. That is why the LTE models do standalone mode via cell network.
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It should be able to. It says it on the website it need a phone app for calls to work on the non-lte version. My guess is an update will fix that.
Have you turned on Remote Connection in the Gear app on your phone?
Settings>Gear Connection>Remote Connection
seamus1000 said:
Have you turned on Remote Connection in the Gear app on your phone?
Settings>Gear Connection>Remote Connection
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Yes, that's on by default.
The picture says requires WiFi and a voice call app. That means some third party app' but not your telephone operator's and voice line from them. At least this is how I would interpret that.
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Any update on this, im curious can you receive calls when you are within the bluetooth and wifi range? I asked about the voice call app and never got an answer back. What is this app and where do you download it from?
There's no voice app yet that runs on WiFi and has VOIP functionality, afaik.
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But can you make calls if you are connected via Bluetooth at least?
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But can you make calls if you are connected via Bluetooth at least?
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Yes, that part works.
great thanks for confirmation
It would however great if there is at least an option for sending a "missed call" message.
So no bluetooth, because you left the phone in the house a few rooms too far away, but still trigger on the s3.
And also for other messages. I do not seem to get them either.
Tested with just bluetooth switched of on the phone.
When I use the messaging app on the watch I can read them via wifi.
Huib
On old Gear S, after BT disconnect, the watch is connected with the phone via Samsung account.
Because there is a sim involved, the Gear app redirect the calls to the watch number but all the notifications, SMS, WhatsUp, etc are relayed to the watch via Samsung account.
This is the part I don't understand in S3 .. if the phone and watch are connected via wifi, why the notifications are missing?
Fine, there is no voice even if they advertised something about a voice app which does not exist, but notifications?
I think i know why the voice call app is not released. This watch has a horrible wifi connectivity issue. I found this bug out and reported it to Samsung developer forum hoping for a fix. While the watch does report "Connected" all the time when you are connected via wifi.
I setup a few tests a foot away from my router without any other devices on the 2.4GHz network to saturate it. I noticed there was constant timeouts, this explained why trying to use the Gear Watch Designer to load a new watch face took so many retries. Sure enough the Wifi connection is anything but stable and worthless if you ask me with the constant timeouts.
A small app that only sends a "missed call" message via Wifi would already be mothers little helper.
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BTW I understood that Bluetooth 5 has a far larger range?
Huib
Think of bluetooth as a euphemism for "connected at the hip". Whether its a keyboard, headset, stylus, watch, or other gadget, if it works via bluetooth it's only designed to operate within a few feet of the mothership. If you don't want to carry your phone on you everywhere, get the LTE version of the watch.
gianoit said:
gear S3 can make a pin on a map and you can see where you are if you have an internet connection
but i want to use only the integrated gps an see the coordinate where i am
anyone known an app for doing it??
tia giano
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You can try find my car from galaxy apps.
herpi said:
A small app that only sends a "missed call" message via Wifi would already be mothers little helper.
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BTW I understood that Bluetooth 5 has a far larger range?
Huib
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Yes, it has 4x range!!!
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hummmmm...always a problem somewhere with this watch : or it doesn't work if non stock roms, or does'nt want to connect to samsung account using wifi (but the samsung account says it is !)....a little bit tired about that !!! even if i looove this watch !
I have 2 different WiFi routers. I connected my watch h to one and my phone to the other. I also turned off Bluetooth.
I used a different phone to make a call to my phone, it did not ring but i received a missed call notification on the watch , I could receive sms and whatsapp messages and can reply to them.
The only thing I couldn't do was make and receive a phone call from the watch.
Hi,
I know there are a couple of WhatsApp threads but my query is different.
As I understand, there is no WhatsApp app for Android Wear 2.0 but notifications are sent to the watch. In that case, is it necessary that the watch and phone are connected via Bluetooth?
If not i.e. WhatsApp can work via an independent connection, I have another query.
In India, eSim isn't permitted and I'm sure I can't get two sim cards with the same number. In that case, I'll require a sim card with a separate connection. My WhatsApp would be linked to my primary number which is in the phone.
In this case, if I'm away from the phone (say on a run that I never seem to get up on time to go) and LTE is on, will I still get notifications via this connection?
Thanks
vigneshnm said:
Hi,
I know there are a couple of WhatsApp threads but my query is different.
As I understand, there is no WhatsApp app for Android Wear 2.0 but notifications are sent to the watch. In that case, is it necessary that the watch and phone are connected via Bluetooth?
If not i.e. WhatsApp can work via an independent connection, I have another query.
In India, eSim isn't permitted and I'm sure I can't get two sim cards with the same number. In that case, I'll require a sim card with a separate connection. My WhatsApp would be linked to my primary number which is in the phone.
In this case, if I'm away from the phone (say on a run that I never seem to get up on time to go) and LTE is on, will I still get notifications via this connection?
Thanks
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In short...yes! The simcard you insert in the watch enables a 3g/4g connection on the watch. Doesnt matter which phone number the watch has. When no longer connected through bluetooth with a phone the 3g/4g connection replaces the bluetooth connection. So every notification received on the phone is send to the watch using its 3g/4g dataconnection, including whatsapp. You can even reply to them, even start a new conversation using Google assistant.
Ofcourse this can only work of your phone is connected to the internet, because it needs to send all notifications to the watch through the internet.
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In short...yes! The simcard you insert in the watch enables a 3g/4g connection on the watch. Doesnt matter which phone number the watch has. When no longer connected through bluetooth with a phone the 3g/4g connection replaces the bluetooth connection. So every notification received on the phone is send to the watch using its 3g/4g dataconnection, including whatsapp. You can even reply to them, even start a new conversation using Google assistant.
Ofcourse this can only work of your phone is connected to the internet, because it needs to send all notifications to the watch through the internet.
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Ah so that means this works similar to WhatsApp Web. The web browser or the watch in this case is just a thin client with a display while all the heavy lifting is being done by the phone.
Is this true for other messaging platforms that have apps such as Telegram, Skype and FB messenger or can they work even if the phone is switched off/ doesn't have network?
Thanks
Since it only shows notifications, I presume I cannot open any chat on the phone and see the chat history? Or that if I swipe away a notification, I can't read it or reply it to it save using "ok Google" to send a message.
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vigneshnm said:
Since it only shows notifications, I presume I cannot open any chat on the phone and see the chat history? Or that if I swipe away a notification, I can't read it or reply it to it save using "ok Google" to send a message.
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Correct...
And If phone offline you can only call and use sms on the watch since it has its own sms app
Thanks for your replies, really helps me understand this watch better.
If there are multiple messages, either from one contact or from more than one, does it show all messages with an option to reply to them individually or does it show only the first/ last message like Gear S3 does?
I know I have a lot of questions, plonking down $400 on a luxury item is a huge decision to take!
I've manage to get a UK Vodafone PAYG sim transfered to esim and loaded onto my watch 4.
This works fine receiving and making voice calls, sending txt messages, but it won't received an incoming txt message directly to the watches esim number.
Anyone know why not?
It was possible on my previous LG Watch Sport with microsim.
Thanks.
Have you installed Google Messages from the play store? That allows me to switch from phone to watch number for reading and sending texts.
I've discovered with the right settings selected in the wear app, as long as my phone is switched on, I still receive txt messages sent to my phones sim number on my watch, as long as my watch is connected to the Internet either by WiFi or LTE.
Also I can send a txt from my watch, using the phone sim number, again as long as connected by either WiFi or LTE.
That's pretty cool when away from my phones Bluetooth connection, especially when LTE automatically switches itself on when it looses Bluetooth connection from my phone.
Therefore I don't really need to be able to use the watches sim number for txt messages.
stag74 said:
I've discovered with the right settings selected in the wear app, as long as my phone is switched on, I still receive txt messages sent to my phones sim number on my watch, as long as my watch is connected to the Internet either by WiFi or LTE.
Also I can send a txt from my watch, using the phone sim number, again as long as connected by either WiFi or LTE.
That's pretty cool when away from my phones Bluetooth connection, especially when LTE automatically switches itself on when it looses Bluetooth connection from my phone.
Therefore I don't really need to be able to use the watches sim number for txt messages.
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Yes, that's the way I've been doing it for Galaxy 4 on TMobile
Hi
Have a Watch 5 Pro LTE model activated with an eSIM, paired to a Samsung S21 Ultra.
Can receive calls and have data connection via the eSIM with the phone off/out of range/Bluetooth off.
Cannot send or receive text messages independently.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Hi, I read somewhere that texts can be sent using the Google messenger app. Does your phone and watch have the same number? If not, does the watch ring when the phone receives a call and is out of BT range?
Have you checked with your provider? Because you should be able to. I will find out tomorrow, once mine arrives.
Watch rings when out of range / phone off etc. Has it's own data independent of bluetooth or WiFi.
Odd development since posting. Have managed to get Watch to send text on it's own but it uses it's own number despite the phone part having the same number as phone. Completely different number.
Completely convoluted process to make it work. If bluetooth is switch on on the watch it doesn't appear to try to connect via WiFi unless you go into the set up and connect to a network. Only way I can get it to send text independently is to totally switch off bluetooth and WiFi on the watch.
Returning the watch and hoping next one behaves better.
MobileBritain said:
Hi
Have a Watch 5 Pro LTE model activated with an eSIM, paired to a Samsung S21 Ultra.
Can receive calls and have data connection via the eSIM with the phone off/out of range/Bluetooth off.
Cannot send or receive text messages independently.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
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Hi.
Check the settings in the account of your mobile provider. vodafone, telekom, o2, whatever.
You can select which eSIM can receive and send SMS-Messages.
I am using three eSIMs and I can only select one eSIM/SIM in total to receive/send SMS with my german provider o2/telefonica.
I guess it's the same with your provider settings.
cheers
Hi Pundy
I only have one eSIM which is meant to be paired with the physical SIM used in the phone. The call and text allowance comes out of the physical SIM account but it has it's own data allowance. My provider doesn't appear to be sophisticated enough to allow the configuration you suggest.
Cheers
I just got the Watch 5 LTE and haven't set it up with an eSIM yet, but I wondered if calls and text work like they work on my Samsung Tablet, the data connection or WiFi let's the phone forward calls and texts with the "Calls and texts on other devices" program. Then it would switch to the eSIM number if the phone was turned off or offline?