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Watch doesn't receive phone calls when connected through Wifi

I just noticed my watch will not receive phone calls when it is connected to the phone through wifi. For example, when my phone is out of Bluetooth range, but still connected through Wifi, I can receive notifications, as well as receive and reply to texts, but calls are not forwarded.
I have the wifi only version of the Gear S3. Not the LTE version.
Anyone else experiencing this?

Do you have a non samsung phone? If you do then i think thats why because the call forwarding out of bluetooth range works a little different on samsung phones vs non samsung phones.

I do not think that non LTE S3s can receive calls on WiFi. They only pair via Bluetooth for calls. Data is ok for WiFi, but there was no mention for WiFi calling that I'm aware of. That is why the LTE models do standalone mode via cell network.
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It should be able to. It says it on the website it need a phone app for calls to work on the non-lte version. My guess is an update will fix that.

Have you turned on Remote Connection in the Gear app on your phone?
Settings>Gear Connection>Remote Connection

seamus1000 said:
Have you turned on Remote Connection in the Gear app on your phone?
Settings>Gear Connection>Remote Connection
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Yes, that's on by default.

The picture says requires WiFi and a voice call app. That means some third party app' but not your telephone operator's and voice line from them. At least this is how I would interpret that.
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Any update on this, im curious can you receive calls when you are within the bluetooth and wifi range? I asked about the voice call app and never got an answer back. What is this app and where do you download it from?

There's no voice app yet that runs on WiFi and has VOIP functionality, afaik.
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But can you make calls if you are connected via Bluetooth at least?

arf8 said:
But can you make calls if you are connected via Bluetooth at least?
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Yes, that part works.

great thanks for confirmation

It would however great if there is at least an option for sending a "missed call" message.
So no bluetooth, because you left the phone in the house a few rooms too far away, but still trigger on the s3.
And also for other messages. I do not seem to get them either.
Tested with just bluetooth switched of on the phone.
When I use the messaging app on the watch I can read them via wifi.
Huib

On old Gear S, after BT disconnect, the watch is connected with the phone via Samsung account.
Because there is a sim involved, the Gear app redirect the calls to the watch number but all the notifications, SMS, WhatsUp, etc are relayed to the watch via Samsung account.
This is the part I don't understand in S3 .. if the phone and watch are connected via wifi, why the notifications are missing?
Fine, there is no voice even if they advertised something about a voice app which does not exist, but notifications?

I think i know why the voice call app is not released. This watch has a horrible wifi connectivity issue. I found this bug out and reported it to Samsung developer forum hoping for a fix. While the watch does report "Connected" all the time when you are connected via wifi.
I setup a few tests a foot away from my router without any other devices on the 2.4GHz network to saturate it. I noticed there was constant timeouts, this explained why trying to use the Gear Watch Designer to load a new watch face took so many retries. Sure enough the Wifi connection is anything but stable and worthless if you ask me with the constant timeouts.

A small app that only sends a "missed call" message via Wifi would already be mothers little helper.
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BTW I understood that Bluetooth 5 has a far larger range?
Huib

Think of bluetooth as a euphemism for "connected at the hip". Whether its a keyboard, headset, stylus, watch, or other gadget, if it works via bluetooth it's only designed to operate within a few feet of the mothership. If you don't want to carry your phone on you everywhere, get the LTE version of the watch.

gianoit said:
gear S3 can make a pin on a map and you can see where you are if you have an internet connection
but i want to use only the integrated gps an see the coordinate where i am
anyone known an app for doing it??
tia giano
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You can try find my car from galaxy apps.
herpi said:
A small app that only sends a "missed call" message via Wifi would already be mothers little helper.
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BTW I understood that Bluetooth 5 has a far larger range?
Huib
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Yes, it has 4x range!!!
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hummmmm...always a problem somewhere with this watch : or it doesn't work if non stock roms, or does'nt want to connect to samsung account using wifi (but the samsung account says it is !)....a little bit tired about that !!! even if i looove this watch !

I have 2 different WiFi routers. I connected my watch h to one and my phone to the other. I also turned off Bluetooth.
I used a different phone to make a call to my phone, it did not ring but i received a missed call notification on the watch , I could receive sms and whatsapp messages and can reply to them.
The only thing I couldn't do was make and receive a phone call from the watch.

Gear S3 with non-samsung phone Questions

Some question I wish to know as I'm planning to buy Gear S3 Frontier in the future.
For example, I'm using Huawei Mate 9.
1. I'm confused in people saying making call and receiving SMS don't work, and some say work, exactly which one is true? Is it that you can accept call but can't start call from the watch?
2. Any one that uses What's App, Wechat, Hangout, specially Facebook Messenger etc, are you able to do reply to these apps(like in notification area)? Like not only the quick message, to be able to type manually on watch and reply (Voice or Keyboard)?
3.In relation to question 2, how well it work with remote connection?
Thanks.

I have a Pixel and a Pixel XL. I can initiate and answer calls fine on my non-LTE S3. I can start and respond to messages as well. I haven't tried the other apps you mentioned.

I'm on a htc 10, lineage OS and I'm unable to initiate calls or send SMS with s voice

I have HTC ONE M8, answer to both of your questions is yes it's working fine, connected via Bluetooth, phone calls sms replying as well as initiate call or sms. WhatsApp and other can receive and reply but cannot initiate new message.
(Didn't tested when connected to same WiFi network.)

wasim9283 said:
I have HTC ONE M8, answer to both of your questions is yes it's working fine, connected via Bluetooth, phone calls sms replying as well as initiate call or sms. WhatsApp and other can receive and reply but cannot initiate new message.
(Didn't tested when connected to same WiFi network.)
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Are you on stock rom? When I used a custom sense rom the gear manager keeps crashing however with lineage os it works but I can't initiate calls

wasim9283 said:
I have HTC ONE M8, answer to both of your questions is yes it's working fine, connected via Bluetooth, phone calls sms replying as well as initiate call or sms. WhatsApp and other can receive and reply but cannot initiate new message.
(Didn't tested when connected to same WiFi network.)
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Ah that's good to know. As for what's app or facebook messenger. Reply is all I need. Hardly initiate message on watch.
Thanks guys. Good to know it's working well with other phone.

Two more things I wish to know.
1. If I accepted a call with watch, can I redirect it to phone directly on watch or I have to manually go to phone and choose to not use Bluetooth in that caller screen?
2. If I have a Bluetooth headset connected to my phone for example. I answer call using watch but can the call go through headset instead? What if i accepted the call using the Bluetooth headset button instead of watch. Will the audio re route properly?
Thanks

raypro112 said:
Are you on stock rom? When I used a custom sense rom the gear manager keeps crashing however with lineage os it works but I can't initiate calls
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Yes I'm on stock rom (switched back to stock due to same issues)

I am using Xperia Z5 initiate calls works fine from watch by finding contact and tapping phone icon on watch, using s-voice its very hit and miss. Can initiate texts from watch by going to contact and tapping the envelope button, initiating texts with s-voice requires samsung phone ('send text message to xxxx' gives 'sms service is unavailable) can reply to texts, etc but only while notification is present, after notification cleared have to start from scratch. Its all pretty poor overall tbh.
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bibiner said:
Two more things I wish to know.
1. If I accepted a call with watch, can I redirect it to phone directly on watch or I have to manually go to phone and choose to not use Bluetooth in that caller screen?
2. If I have a Bluetooth headset connected to my phone for example. I answer call using watch but can the call go through headset instead? What if i accepted the call using the Bluetooth headset button instead of watch. Will the audio re route properly?
Thanks
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Can't help enough as not tested in detail.
In Bluetooth settings headset gives both options for phone audio and music
But watch gives only phone audio (so music sound can't come from watch, only music control possible)
And
If I select phone and music both for Bluetooth headset, then watch disconnect by itself as it wants phone audio.

veletron said:
I am using Xperia Z5 initiate calls works fine from watch by finding contact and tapping phone icon on watch, using s-voice its very hit and miss. Can initiate texts from watch by going to contact and tapping the envelope button, initiating texts with s-voice requires samsung phone ('send text message to xxxx' gives 'sms service is unavailable) can reply to texts, etc but only while notification is present, after notification cleared have to start from scratch. Its all pretty poor overall tbh.
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The way notifications reply work seems similar to my pebble. Except I can't type manually on pebble. Thanks for info

bibiner said:
The way notifications reply work seems similar to my pebble. Except I can't type manually on pebble. Thanks for info
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You can use on screen KB, handwriting recognition (us english only), smileys, canned response or s-voice to reply.
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veletron said:
You can use on screen KB, handwriting recognition (us english only), smileys, canned response or s-voice to reply.
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Btw. When you set the reminder, are you able to set for example. Today February 1. And I wish to remind myself to buy something on February 3. Can I do that? I hear it's strictly within the day only.

How many languages to the watch support tho? Does it support Japanese by any chance?
Does it have auto brightness?

I can say now that I went back to full stock rom, everything is working fine now. I can make and answer calls. I wished someone had told me earlier. I been calling Samsung support for days and they havent been anymore useful then the manual, telling me I needed the lte model to answer calls

On my mate 9, I can Not make a call through the watch neither reply to message text... Things I was able to do with my S6.
Probably due to emui and his special dialer.
But I can read SMS and email anyway

booster33 said:
On my mate 9, I can Not make a call through the watch neither reply to message text... Things I was able to do with my S6.
Probably due to emui and his special dialer.
But I can read SMS and email anyway
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Oh Dang. The inability to make a call due to mate 9 might be deal breaker. Are you able to view incoming caller name/number and accept call? Had you try third party dailer to see if it work? Since you have mate 9 and gear s3. Are the reply options from notification work? Like manually type or hand writing reply incoming What's app, hangout and Facebook messenger. And also, do the music player remote control work with stock music player? Do it display the current track playing properly?
Thanks

Just to be clear, there are two versions of the Frontier, one has an LTE radio. The LTE model is able to handle calls, texts, and run apps like Spotify without being connected to a phone. The BT model must be tethered to a phone in order to do these functions. Both models need to be connected (via BT or cellular) to a phone in order for notifications (ie. Hangouts, email) to pass through.

Gear S3 with Mate 9
bibiner said:
Oh Dang. The inability to make a call due to mate 9 might be deal breaker. Are you able to view incoming caller name/number and accept call? Had you try third party dailer to see if it work? Since you have mate 9 and gear s3. Are the reply options from notification work? Like manually type or hand writing reply incoming What's app, hangout and Facebook messenger. And also, do the music player remote control work with stock music player? Do it display the current track playing properly?
Thanks
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I know this question was from weeks ago but as I also have a S3 with a Mate 9, maybe I can help a little bit:
Everything works, including getting all notifications and asnwering them from the watch, and making and receiving calls in the watch. I have the S3 BT only model. My Mate 9 is with stock rom. Samsung Gear Manager working perfectly.
I have just one issue: sometimes, when I make a call using the phone, the call is automatically routed to the watch, without my permission, and it seems there is not any configuration or parameter to force all calls to not be routed to the watch. Of course it is easy to bring the call back to the phone (using the BT button in the dial), but as I initiated the call from the phone, it should not be redirected to the watch at the beginning. And this is something that happens eventually, not allways. It seems to be some kind of bug. I read about the same issue in other threads (S3 with other non-Samsung phones) here in XDA but could not find a definitive solution yet. If somebody can help on this, I would appreciate.

quangtran1 said:
I have a Pixel and a Pixel XL. I can initiate and answer calls fine on my non-LTE S3. I can start and respond to messages as well. I haven't tried the other apps you mentioned.
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I'm using a Pixel XL as well and I'm planning to buy one. What limitations do you encounter when pair to the Pixel? Samsung Pay is also one of my reasons to buy this. Is it fully functional?
UPDATE:
Samsung Pay fully functional. But there are limitations if you use Gear S3 with non Samsung phone and BT headset (mine is Level U Pro ANC).
1. Call profile could only be activated either on the watch or level u pro, but not both simultaneously. If you choose to keep call profile on BT headset, you can use the headset for calling, but you cannot initiate call or answer call from watch. If you choose to keep call profile on watch, you cannot use BT headset for calling. That's also the case with car BT.
2. You can receive and reply to SMS on watch. But initiating SMS is a different story. No built in SMS so on watch so you can use watchface with messages shortcut to initiate sms, BUT all sms you initiate thru the watch WILL NOT REFLECT on the sms thread on the phone itself (Android Messages).
3. You cannot see your SMS history as well.

Question about Gear Wear: Currently using Gear S3 as Standalone device for teen son.

Current Setup: I bought a S3 Frontier LTE for my 13 year old son as a standalone device and it works perfect! I am only paying about $13 for his independent number on a sub-account with Verizon.
Question: I gave him my old S5 with no service to pair and install Gear Wear to add apps, watch faces, etc. When paired, his watch does not receive texts or emails so he can't leave it paired with the phone. Is there a way "around" that so he can keep them paired? He would like to receive Instagram notifications, etc. on his watch which he can't get when it isn't paired.
Thanks!

Phone has no service, so it wouldn't receive SMS and wouldn't send a notification to the watch. If he's set the phone up for emails it should send notifications to the watch when in a wifi zone.
Notifications need to be set up on the phone app.

I would think if you set the watch for mobile network to be always on it should be able to be connected to both a phone using bluetooth and its standalone number via mobile network. I think that will make it behave as you want it too.
However big drawback is going to be terrible battery life if you do that.
I would suggest trying to download the verizon messenger app on the phone and seeing if you can get the messages from the gear to sync to that, if I remember correctly it just requires a verification text which you should be able to from the watch. If that works you can enable notifications for that app on the watch, but he won't be able to send messages from it he'd have to use the phone or unpair/turn off bluetooth to do it from the watch (he would get the notification on the watch and maybe be able to read the message in the notification I'm not sure how it would behave). As the previous poster said set up the email on the phone and it will sync to the watch over bluetooth. All that will only work (assuming it does) when that phone is connected to wifi and paired with the watch.
I hope it helps let me know.

Question Receiving txt message to LTE watch number.

I've manage to get a UK Vodafone PAYG sim transfered to esim and loaded onto my watch 4.
This works fine receiving and making voice calls, sending txt messages, but it won't received an incoming txt message directly to the watches esim number.
Anyone know why not?
It was possible on my previous LG Watch Sport with microsim.
Thanks.

Have you installed Google Messages from the play store? That allows me to switch from phone to watch number for reading and sending texts.

I've discovered with the right settings selected in the wear app, as long as my phone is switched on, I still receive txt messages sent to my phones sim number on my watch, as long as my watch is connected to the Internet either by WiFi or LTE.
Also I can send a txt from my watch, using the phone sim number, again as long as connected by either WiFi or LTE.
That's pretty cool when away from my phones Bluetooth connection, especially when LTE automatically switches itself on when it looses Bluetooth connection from my phone.
Therefore I don't really need to be able to use the watches sim number for txt messages.

stag74 said:
I've discovered with the right settings selected in the wear app, as long as my phone is switched on, I still receive txt messages sent to my phones sim number on my watch, as long as my watch is connected to the Internet either by WiFi or LTE.
Also I can send a txt from my watch, using the phone sim number, again as long as connected by either WiFi or LTE.
That's pretty cool when away from my phones Bluetooth connection, especially when LTE automatically switches itself on when it looses Bluetooth connection from my phone.
Therefore I don't really need to be able to use the watches sim number for txt messages.
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Yes, that's the way I've been doing it for Galaxy 4 on TMobile

Question Watch 5 Pro LTE Text Messages

Hi
Have a Watch 5 Pro LTE model activated with an eSIM, paired to a Samsung S21 Ultra.
Can receive calls and have data connection via the eSIM with the phone off/out of range/Bluetooth off.
Cannot send or receive text messages independently.
Any suggestions?
Thanks

Hi, I read somewhere that texts can be sent using the Google messenger app. Does your phone and watch have the same number? If not, does the watch ring when the phone receives a call and is out of BT range?

Have you checked with your provider? Because you should be able to. I will find out tomorrow, once mine arrives.

Watch rings when out of range / phone off etc. Has it's own data independent of bluetooth or WiFi.
Odd development since posting. Have managed to get Watch to send text on it's own but it uses it's own number despite the phone part having the same number as phone. Completely different number.
Completely convoluted process to make it work. If bluetooth is switch on on the watch it doesn't appear to try to connect via WiFi unless you go into the set up and connect to a network. Only way I can get it to send text independently is to totally switch off bluetooth and WiFi on the watch.
Returning the watch and hoping next one behaves better.

MobileBritain said:
Hi
Have a Watch 5 Pro LTE model activated with an eSIM, paired to a Samsung S21 Ultra.
Can receive calls and have data connection via the eSIM with the phone off/out of range/Bluetooth off.
Cannot send or receive text messages independently.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
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Hi.
Check the settings in the account of your mobile provider. vodafone, telekom, o2, whatever.
You can select which eSIM can receive and send SMS-Messages.
I am using three eSIMs and I can only select one eSIM/SIM in total to receive/send SMS with my german provider o2/telefonica.
I guess it's the same with your provider settings.
cheers

Hi Pundy
I only have one eSIM which is meant to be paired with the physical SIM used in the phone. The call and text allowance comes out of the physical SIM account but it has it's own data allowance. My provider doesn't appear to be sophisticated enough to allow the configuration you suggest.
Cheers

I just got the Watch 5 LTE and haven't set it up with an eSIM yet, but I wondered if calls and text work like they work on my Samsung Tablet, the data connection or WiFi let's the phone forward calls and texts with the "Calls and texts on other devices" program. Then it would switch to the eSIM number if the phone was turned off or offline?