Some question I wish to know as I'm planning to buy Gear S3 Frontier in the future.
For example, I'm using Huawei Mate 9.
1. I'm confused in people saying making call and receiving SMS don't work, and some say work, exactly which one is true? Is it that you can accept call but can't start call from the watch?
2. Any one that uses What's App, Wechat, Hangout, specially Facebook Messenger etc, are you able to do reply to these apps(like in notification area)? Like not only the quick message, to be able to type manually on watch and reply (Voice or Keyboard)?
3.In relation to question 2, how well it work with remote connection?
Thanks.
I have a Pixel and a Pixel XL. I can initiate and answer calls fine on my non-LTE S3. I can start and respond to messages as well. I haven't tried the other apps you mentioned.
I'm on a htc 10, lineage OS and I'm unable to initiate calls or send SMS with s voice
I have HTC ONE M8, answer to both of your questions is yes it's working fine, connected via Bluetooth, phone calls sms replying as well as initiate call or sms. WhatsApp and other can receive and reply but cannot initiate new message.
(Didn't tested when connected to same WiFi network.)
wasim9283 said:
I have HTC ONE M8, answer to both of your questions is yes it's working fine, connected via Bluetooth, phone calls sms replying as well as initiate call or sms. WhatsApp and other can receive and reply but cannot initiate new message.
(Didn't tested when connected to same WiFi network.)
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Are you on stock rom? When I used a custom sense rom the gear manager keeps crashing however with lineage os it works but I can't initiate calls
wasim9283 said:
I have HTC ONE M8, answer to both of your questions is yes it's working fine, connected via Bluetooth, phone calls sms replying as well as initiate call or sms. WhatsApp and other can receive and reply but cannot initiate new message.
(Didn't tested when connected to same WiFi network.)
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Ah that's good to know. As for what's app or facebook messenger. Reply is all I need. Hardly initiate message on watch.
Thanks guys. Good to know it's working well with other phone.
Two more things I wish to know.
1. If I accepted a call with watch, can I redirect it to phone directly on watch or I have to manually go to phone and choose to not use Bluetooth in that caller screen?
2. If I have a Bluetooth headset connected to my phone for example. I answer call using watch but can the call go through headset instead? What if i accepted the call using the Bluetooth headset button instead of watch. Will the audio re route properly?
Thanks
raypro112 said:
Are you on stock rom? When I used a custom sense rom the gear manager keeps crashing however with lineage os it works but I can't initiate calls
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Yes I'm on stock rom (switched back to stock due to same issues)
I am using Xperia Z5 initiate calls works fine from watch by finding contact and tapping phone icon on watch, using s-voice its very hit and miss. Can initiate texts from watch by going to contact and tapping the envelope button, initiating texts with s-voice requires samsung phone ('send text message to xxxx' gives 'sms service is unavailable) can reply to texts, etc but only while notification is present, after notification cleared have to start from scratch. Its all pretty poor overall tbh.
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bibiner said:
Two more things I wish to know.
1. If I accepted a call with watch, can I redirect it to phone directly on watch or I have to manually go to phone and choose to not use Bluetooth in that caller screen?
2. If I have a Bluetooth headset connected to my phone for example. I answer call using watch but can the call go through headset instead? What if i accepted the call using the Bluetooth headset button instead of watch. Will the audio re route properly?
Thanks
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Can't help enough as not tested in detail.
In Bluetooth settings headset gives both options for phone audio and music
But watch gives only phone audio (so music sound can't come from watch, only music control possible)
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If I select phone and music both for Bluetooth headset, then watch disconnect by itself as it wants phone audio.
veletron said:
I am using Xperia Z5 initiate calls works fine from watch by finding contact and tapping phone icon on watch, using s-voice its very hit and miss. Can initiate texts from watch by going to contact and tapping the envelope button, initiating texts with s-voice requires samsung phone ('send text message to xxxx' gives 'sms service is unavailable) can reply to texts, etc but only while notification is present, after notification cleared have to start from scratch. Its all pretty poor overall tbh.
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The way notifications reply work seems similar to my pebble. Except I can't type manually on pebble. Thanks for info
bibiner said:
The way notifications reply work seems similar to my pebble. Except I can't type manually on pebble. Thanks for info
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You can use on screen KB, handwriting recognition (us english only), smileys, canned response or s-voice to reply.
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veletron said:
You can use on screen KB, handwriting recognition (us english only), smileys, canned response or s-voice to reply.
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Btw. When you set the reminder, are you able to set for example. Today February 1. And I wish to remind myself to buy something on February 3. Can I do that? I hear it's strictly within the day only.
How many languages to the watch support tho? Does it support Japanese by any chance?
Does it have auto brightness?
I can say now that I went back to full stock rom, everything is working fine now. I can make and answer calls. I wished someone had told me earlier. I been calling Samsung support for days and they havent been anymore useful then the manual, telling me I needed the lte model to answer calls
On my mate 9, I can Not make a call through the watch neither reply to message text... Things I was able to do with my S6.
Probably due to emui and his special dialer.
But I can read SMS and email anyway
booster33 said:
On my mate 9, I can Not make a call through the watch neither reply to message text... Things I was able to do with my S6.
Probably due to emui and his special dialer.
But I can read SMS and email anyway
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Oh Dang. The inability to make a call due to mate 9 might be deal breaker. Are you able to view incoming caller name/number and accept call? Had you try third party dailer to see if it work? Since you have mate 9 and gear s3. Are the reply options from notification work? Like manually type or hand writing reply incoming What's app, hangout and Facebook messenger. And also, do the music player remote control work with stock music player? Do it display the current track playing properly?
Thanks
Just to be clear, there are two versions of the Frontier, one has an LTE radio. The LTE model is able to handle calls, texts, and run apps like Spotify without being connected to a phone. The BT model must be tethered to a phone in order to do these functions. Both models need to be connected (via BT or cellular) to a phone in order for notifications (ie. Hangouts, email) to pass through.
Gear S3 with Mate 9
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Oh Dang. The inability to make a call due to mate 9 might be deal breaker. Are you able to view incoming caller name/number and accept call? Had you try third party dailer to see if it work? Since you have mate 9 and gear s3. Are the reply options from notification work? Like manually type or hand writing reply incoming What's app, hangout and Facebook messenger. And also, do the music player remote control work with stock music player? Do it display the current track playing properly?
Thanks
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I know this question was from weeks ago but as I also have a S3 with a Mate 9, maybe I can help a little bit:
Everything works, including getting all notifications and asnwering them from the watch, and making and receiving calls in the watch. I have the S3 BT only model. My Mate 9 is with stock rom. Samsung Gear Manager working perfectly.
I have just one issue: sometimes, when I make a call using the phone, the call is automatically routed to the watch, without my permission, and it seems there is not any configuration or parameter to force all calls to not be routed to the watch. Of course it is easy to bring the call back to the phone (using the BT button in the dial), but as I initiated the call from the phone, it should not be redirected to the watch at the beginning. And this is something that happens eventually, not allways. It seems to be some kind of bug. I read about the same issue in other threads (S3 with other non-Samsung phones) here in XDA but could not find a definitive solution yet. If somebody can help on this, I would appreciate.
quangtran1 said:
I have a Pixel and a Pixel XL. I can initiate and answer calls fine on my non-LTE S3. I can start and respond to messages as well. I haven't tried the other apps you mentioned.
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I'm using a Pixel XL as well and I'm planning to buy one. What limitations do you encounter when pair to the Pixel? Samsung Pay is also one of my reasons to buy this. Is it fully functional?
UPDATE:
Samsung Pay fully functional. But there are limitations if you use Gear S3 with non Samsung phone and BT headset (mine is Level U Pro ANC).
1. Call profile could only be activated either on the watch or level u pro, but not both simultaneously. If you choose to keep call profile on BT headset, you can use the headset for calling, but you cannot initiate call or answer call from watch. If you choose to keep call profile on watch, you cannot use BT headset for calling. That's also the case with car BT.
2. You can receive and reply to SMS on watch. But initiating SMS is a different story. No built in SMS so on watch so you can use watchface with messages shortcut to initiate sms, BUT all sms you initiate thru the watch WILL NOT REFLECT on the sms thread on the phone itself (Android Messages).
3. You cannot see your SMS history as well.
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I know that the Nexus 5 now supports Bluetooth MAP which enables your car system (I have UVO in mine) to read text messages. I can't get this working however and I'm wondering if the Hangouts SMS integration has somethings to do with it. Does anyone have their N5 transmitting text messages to their audio system in their car?
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I know that the Nexus 5 now supports Bluetooth MAP which enables your car system (I have UVO in mine) to read text messages. I can't get this working however and I'm wondering if the Hangouts SMS integration has somethings to do with it. Does anyone have their N5 transmitting text messages to their audio system in their car?
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My bluetooth car stereo has the same functionality and i've never been able to get it to read texts or even give me a notification that I have a text message. Its unfortunate. I know it works with iPhone. The other troubling thing is that the voice dialer on the car automatically pulls up the old decrepit "Voice Dialer" when I'd prefer to use Google Now. I wish there was a way to make it use Google Now.
I just tested it on my Kenwood DNX unit which is supposed to use MAP but no luck, everything except for SMS works.
Do we know for sure that Nexus 5 has MAP profile enabled?
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I just tested it on my Kenwood DNX unit which is supposed to use MAP but no luck, everything except for SMS works.
Do we know for sure that Nexus 5 has MAP profile enabled?
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My stereo also uses MAP, but no luck. Are you able to get Google Now instead of voice dialer for voice calling?
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I just tested it on my Kenwood DNX unit which is supposed to use MAP but no luck, everything except for SMS works.
Do we know for sure that Nexus 5 has MAP profile enabled?
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I have a DNX and the only phone that has ever worked properly for me has been the atrix
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I have a DNX and the only phone that has ever worked properly for me has been the atrix
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Works perfectly on my Ford focus. Are you sending SMS messages? Or hangouts messages. Might make a difference?
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Works perfectly on my Ford focus. Are you sending SMS messages? Or hangouts messages. Might make a difference?
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SMS option doesn't enable itself. The deck asks for permission to access phonebook and history but nothing regarding sms.
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Works perfectly on my Ford focus. Are you sending SMS messages? Or hangouts messages. Might make a difference?
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I have had the dnx for 2 years and used tons of phones with it. The only one that the SMS ever worked on was my atrix2. I didn't check with my iPhone 5s, but maybe I will later tonight. So it doesn't matter what app it was doing the text messaging. I think its just a problem with the dnx and most devices.
I never said it didn't work at all for any device with any car.
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Just updated my DNX7190 with latest bluetooth firmware from couple of weeks ago. Still no luck, SMS icon is greyed out. I'm guessing these Kenwood units do not fully support MAP.
SMS+CAR App from market works great, I have tried on Galaxy S4 and Nexus 5 without any problem, It can read SMS, Whatsapp, Gmail, voicemail or can auto reply your pre configured message. Hope this helps
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SMS+CAR App from market works great, I have tried on Galaxy S4 and Nexus 5 without any problem, It can read SMS, Whatsapp, Gmail, voicemail or can auto reply your pre configured message. Hope this helps
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We're talking about using SMS on our car multimedia receivers.
Looks like Kenwood is stuck in the past and uses old GSM AT commands instead of MAP. What would be needed is a custom rom that can handle these or an app that could listen for them and respond accordingly.
Seriously SMS not working over Bluetooth
I also can't get the SMS to work over Bluetooth in my uConnect Jeep. I suspect it has something to do with Google Hangout SMS integration. If anyone figures out a work around please reply, I love the Nexus 5 but no SMS integration over Bluetooth is unacceptable. Time to start considering moving back to my S3.
Works just fine in my Honda. Although I hate.
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jlrose2 said:
Does anyone have their N5 transmitting text messages to their audio system in their car?
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I have my Nexus 5 paired with Garmin Nuvi 3490 through BT. The Nuvi does successfully show text messages stored on the phone.
Garmin's implementation is extremely crash-prone, and text mesage support sometimes disappears without any explanation, but it is a Garmin's problem. The phone seems to function as it is supposed to, i.e. BT MAP is there and it works.
Works fine in my 2013 Civic. I did not have to do anything special after pairing with Hands Free Link.
I hate to bring up an old thread, but has anyone found a way to get this working? I had a Nokia 925 that I upgraded to 8.1 and it would read texts through my Uvo system in my Optima. Since I went back to the Nexus 5, I don't even see the option for the MAP profile in the bluetooth settings. SMS is enabled on my car audio system.
I just noticed my watch will not receive phone calls when it is connected to the phone through wifi. For example, when my phone is out of Bluetooth range, but still connected through Wifi, I can receive notifications, as well as receive and reply to texts, but calls are not forwarded.
I have the wifi only version of the Gear S3. Not the LTE version.
Anyone else experiencing this?
Do you have a non samsung phone? If you do then i think thats why because the call forwarding out of bluetooth range works a little different on samsung phones vs non samsung phones.
I do not think that non LTE S3s can receive calls on WiFi. They only pair via Bluetooth for calls. Data is ok for WiFi, but there was no mention for WiFi calling that I'm aware of. That is why the LTE models do standalone mode via cell network.
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It should be able to. It says it on the website it need a phone app for calls to work on the non-lte version. My guess is an update will fix that.
Have you turned on Remote Connection in the Gear app on your phone?
Settings>Gear Connection>Remote Connection
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Have you turned on Remote Connection in the Gear app on your phone?
Settings>Gear Connection>Remote Connection
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Yes, that's on by default.
The picture says requires WiFi and a voice call app. That means some third party app' but not your telephone operator's and voice line from them. At least this is how I would interpret that.
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Any update on this, im curious can you receive calls when you are within the bluetooth and wifi range? I asked about the voice call app and never got an answer back. What is this app and where do you download it from?
There's no voice app yet that runs on WiFi and has VOIP functionality, afaik.
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But can you make calls if you are connected via Bluetooth at least?
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But can you make calls if you are connected via Bluetooth at least?
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Yes, that part works.
great thanks for confirmation
It would however great if there is at least an option for sending a "missed call" message.
So no bluetooth, because you left the phone in the house a few rooms too far away, but still trigger on the s3.
And also for other messages. I do not seem to get them either.
Tested with just bluetooth switched of on the phone.
When I use the messaging app on the watch I can read them via wifi.
Huib
On old Gear S, after BT disconnect, the watch is connected with the phone via Samsung account.
Because there is a sim involved, the Gear app redirect the calls to the watch number but all the notifications, SMS, WhatsUp, etc are relayed to the watch via Samsung account.
This is the part I don't understand in S3 .. if the phone and watch are connected via wifi, why the notifications are missing?
Fine, there is no voice even if they advertised something about a voice app which does not exist, but notifications?
I think i know why the voice call app is not released. This watch has a horrible wifi connectivity issue. I found this bug out and reported it to Samsung developer forum hoping for a fix. While the watch does report "Connected" all the time when you are connected via wifi.
I setup a few tests a foot away from my router without any other devices on the 2.4GHz network to saturate it. I noticed there was constant timeouts, this explained why trying to use the Gear Watch Designer to load a new watch face took so many retries. Sure enough the Wifi connection is anything but stable and worthless if you ask me with the constant timeouts.
A small app that only sends a "missed call" message via Wifi would already be mothers little helper.
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BTW I understood that Bluetooth 5 has a far larger range?
Huib
Think of bluetooth as a euphemism for "connected at the hip". Whether its a keyboard, headset, stylus, watch, or other gadget, if it works via bluetooth it's only designed to operate within a few feet of the mothership. If you don't want to carry your phone on you everywhere, get the LTE version of the watch.
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gear S3 can make a pin on a map and you can see where you are if you have an internet connection
but i want to use only the integrated gps an see the coordinate where i am
anyone known an app for doing it??
tia giano
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You can try find my car from galaxy apps.
herpi said:
A small app that only sends a "missed call" message via Wifi would already be mothers little helper.
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Yes, it has 4x range!!!
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hummmmm...always a problem somewhere with this watch : or it doesn't work if non stock roms, or does'nt want to connect to samsung account using wifi (but the samsung account says it is !)....a little bit tired about that !!! even if i looove this watch !
I have 2 different WiFi routers. I connected my watch h to one and my phone to the other. I also turned off Bluetooth.
I used a different phone to make a call to my phone, it did not ring but i received a missed call notification on the watch , I could receive sms and whatsapp messages and can reply to them.
The only thing I couldn't do was make and receive a phone call from the watch.
Hi,
I know there are a couple of WhatsApp threads but my query is different.
As I understand, there is no WhatsApp app for Android Wear 2.0 but notifications are sent to the watch. In that case, is it necessary that the watch and phone are connected via Bluetooth?
If not i.e. WhatsApp can work via an independent connection, I have another query.
In India, eSim isn't permitted and I'm sure I can't get two sim cards with the same number. In that case, I'll require a sim card with a separate connection. My WhatsApp would be linked to my primary number which is in the phone.
In this case, if I'm away from the phone (say on a run that I never seem to get up on time to go) and LTE is on, will I still get notifications via this connection?
Thanks
vigneshnm said:
Hi,
I know there are a couple of WhatsApp threads but my query is different.
As I understand, there is no WhatsApp app for Android Wear 2.0 but notifications are sent to the watch. In that case, is it necessary that the watch and phone are connected via Bluetooth?
If not i.e. WhatsApp can work via an independent connection, I have another query.
In India, eSim isn't permitted and I'm sure I can't get two sim cards with the same number. In that case, I'll require a sim card with a separate connection. My WhatsApp would be linked to my primary number which is in the phone.
In this case, if I'm away from the phone (say on a run that I never seem to get up on time to go) and LTE is on, will I still get notifications via this connection?
Thanks
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In short...yes! The simcard you insert in the watch enables a 3g/4g connection on the watch. Doesnt matter which phone number the watch has. When no longer connected through bluetooth with a phone the 3g/4g connection replaces the bluetooth connection. So every notification received on the phone is send to the watch using its 3g/4g dataconnection, including whatsapp. You can even reply to them, even start a new conversation using Google assistant.
Ofcourse this can only work of your phone is connected to the internet, because it needs to send all notifications to the watch through the internet.
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In short...yes! The simcard you insert in the watch enables a 3g/4g connection on the watch. Doesnt matter which phone number the watch has. When no longer connected through bluetooth with a phone the 3g/4g connection replaces the bluetooth connection. So every notification received on the phone is send to the watch using its 3g/4g dataconnection, including whatsapp. You can even reply to them, even start a new conversation using Google assistant.
Ofcourse this can only work of your phone is connected to the internet, because it needs to send all notifications to the watch through the internet.
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Ah so that means this works similar to WhatsApp Web. The web browser or the watch in this case is just a thin client with a display while all the heavy lifting is being done by the phone.
Is this true for other messaging platforms that have apps such as Telegram, Skype and FB messenger or can they work even if the phone is switched off/ doesn't have network?
Thanks
Since it only shows notifications, I presume I cannot open any chat on the phone and see the chat history? Or that if I swipe away a notification, I can't read it or reply it to it save using "ok Google" to send a message.
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Since it only shows notifications, I presume I cannot open any chat on the phone and see the chat history? Or that if I swipe away a notification, I can't read it or reply it to it save using "ok Google" to send a message.
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Correct...
And If phone offline you can only call and use sms on the watch since it has its own sms app
Thanks for your replies, really helps me understand this watch better.
If there are multiple messages, either from one contact or from more than one, does it show all messages with an option to reply to them individually or does it show only the first/ last message like Gear S3 does?
I know I have a lot of questions, plonking down $400 on a luxury item is a huge decision to take!
Text messages are not coming through to the watch. Any things i could try.
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Text messages are not coming through to the watch. Any things i could try.
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Are you using build-in Android Messages or other application?
SIM is in watches or in phone/or using BT to have watches connected?
Sent it back
Mir1189 said:
Are you using build-in Android Messages or other application?
SIM is in watches or in phone/or using BT to have watches connected?
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I sent it back, it just wasn't useable... sim was in the watch. But it wouldn't work when on cellular or BT. I don't know what build-in is. I really liked the watch as well.
I have SIM in watches, SMS/calls work fine. I dont use any primary phone (just a virtual machine with x86 android).
There is a setting if you want to send notifications or read SMS on watches while they are nearby phone or not. I guess that was the whole issue.
I have the same problem. I have a SIM in the watch. I hardly use it for calls or text but sometimes I need to reconfirm something via text and those SMS messages never arrive. It is not a settings issue as very randomly I get some old texts. Strange. Weird.
I'm wondering if I set the watch up right or if this is the behavior of the watch.
When my phone rings (pixel 2 XL) and I try to answer it from the phone, the call is picked up but on my watch. I have to turn off the option in the watch's settings when I carry my phone around.
What I'd like to have it do is, when there's a call - pick up on the phone if answered from the phone and pick up on the watch when answered from the watch.
Is this possible?
Thanx...
I believe it works like that for me.
Last time I picked up the call from phone I was able to speak on the phone straight away, but I'm not sure if it was also calling on the watch.
I get that delay sometimes for call notification on watch.
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Is this possible?
Thanx...
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It is possible.
Be sure that under BT settings for your watch on your phone, Call Audio is turned off. On your watch, make sure Use for Call Audio is turned on. (not sure if that's the correct wording for the watch settings)
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If you go under Connections, Bluetooth, you can toggle the option "answer voice calls on watch"