Better VFM - Poco F1 or Redmi Note 6 Pro? - Xiaomi Redmi Note 6 Pro Questions & Answers

I do not change phones very often. I have a redmi note 3 for about 3 years now, and I was looking for Mi 8 to launch in India for a possible upgrade. That's not likely to happen, and Redmi Note 7 is not likely to get launched in India for another month (at least). However, my phone has recently developed some issue which makes the display blank out randomly. Once blanked, it doesn't return for a few seconds (and sometimes for a few mins). Further, there is a constant earphone icon (without any earphones connected) which forces me to take all the calls on loudspeaker mode. This could be due to the recent fall (my phone has several scratches dents due to various falls from different heights), and that makes build quality an important consideration. Thus, I need to buy a new phone at the earliest.
A sale is going to start in a couple of days, which is offering Poco F1 (6/64) @ 19K and Redmi Note 6 Pro (4/64) @ 13K. I'm not much of a gamer. My primary phone usage include: browsing quora, and wi-fi hotspot from my 4G network. What I'm additionally looking for is good build quality, good battery life, and decent rear camera.
Based on the above requirement, and your experience, could you please recommend between Poco F1 and Redmi Note 6 Pro?

My two cents:
It depends on your budget and your expectations.
In my case, I bought the Redmi Note 6 Pro as a secondary phone, trying to keep the budget the lowest possible.
The battery life is amazing, the phone is snappy enough for my usage, Wi-Fi hotspot works great (in particular thanks to the Dual SIM, I have a specific SIM card specifically for data that I am tethering to my laptop), and games are okay in my standard (never playing more than 2048). Camera is decent in day light but not very good in low-light (heck its a 160€ phone!). It is also true that the 636 is starting to become old but it is still very much up to date.
The F1 is already a more flagship phone, with more ROM support and more popularity so I expect it to have support for a longer period of time from the community.
On the other side, the Note 6 Pro is starting to pick up now with more ROMs that can improve the user experience if you don't like MIUI.
Overall, if you have the budget for the F1 go for it, but if you don't feel like spending it the difference then the Note 6 Pro is also a very good choice

im just saying this:im the huge user like(instagram facebook little bit games or etc)and i got minimum 8.30 sot, maximum 12 sot(screen on time) its mean batterylife too good..if u want good camera (just try google camera,gcam.)..phone realy too good for me..im the old g4 user..u can take night shots with manual controls but note 6 hasnt..but there gcam helps u.just try gcam thats it..phone battery too good also phone not overheating,performance also too good with this price..
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Day light photos too good.But night shots not bad not good.(with stock cam)

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im just saying this:im the huge user like(instagram facebook little bit games or etc)and i got minimum 8.30 sot, maximum 12 sot(screen on time) its mean batterylife too good..if u want good camera (just try google camera,gcam.)..phone realy too good for me..im the old g4 user..u can take night shots with manual controls but note 6 hasnt..but there gcam helps u.just try gcam thats it..phone battery too good also phone not overheating,performance also too good with this price..
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Day light photos too good.But night shots not bad not good.(with stock cam)
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A little unclear, but I guess you are talking of Redmi Note 6 Pro. Right?

@BlasFamous I am in same boat - deciding which one to buy! What did you zero on? Help me decide too Thanks

mGforCe said:
@BlasFamous I am in same boat - deciding which one to buy! What did you zero on? Help me decide too Thanks
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FlipKart kind of decided it for me. Bought RMN 6Pro @ 11,700/-, whereas the Poco could be had for 18,250/-. Somehow nearly 6.5k price difference (over 50%) didn't look just vis-a-vis my requirements. Although, if you can wait (I couldn't), 7 Pro may arrive in March.

BlasFamous said:
FlipKart kind of decided it for me. Bought RMN 6Pro @ 11,700/-, whereas the Poco could be had for 18,250/-. Somehow nearly 6.5k price difference (over 50%) didn't look just vis-a-vis my requirements. Although, if you can wait (I couldn't), 7 Pro may arrive in March.
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Hmm, thanks, clear.
Am also considering Asus Zenfone Max Pro M2

BlasFamous said:
A little unclear, but I guess you are talking of Redmi Note 6 Pro. Right?
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ofcorse im talking about redmi note 6 pro..and im still using this phone.but u can wait for note 7..

mGforCe said:
Hmm, thanks, clear.
Am also considering Asus Zenfone Max Pro M2
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In my experience, Asus phones are good initially, but somehow do not have as much longevity as Redmi (considering avg life span of 1.5 yrs for ASUS, and 2.5 yrs for MI among all my acquaintances) . MIUI updates are also more frequent, if you aren't looking for custom ROMs (I stopped using custom ROMs ever since MIUI). Also, haven't heard much good things about Max Pro's camera, though battery definitely looks impressive, and with some optimisations it should be able to provide at least 2 more hrs of SOT.

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Redmi 3s or mi4C or other redmi 3-3pro

hello, I search a phone for my little sister,
I have a 100€ not more, which one do you think is the best at this price between the 4 ?
I will vote for the REDMI 3s. I don't like phones which are 5 inch + .
the 3s has expandable storage
Mi4C has 5inch screen ...
Hello Jordan,
I see your request and it's easy to answer it in a row.
RN3S is the best and only good choice.
MI4C is obsolete and the 3S has many feature that you have to mind:
the battery is fantastic in use (I know I have tested it during one month, same condition as RN3SD and last longer) , you have ext SD and the phone construction is very robust it doesn't suffer after the JERRY's binding test (not the case for RN3).
about the perf nothing to say because I didn't play games with it but it is a medium end performer, much than enough for everybody daily usage.
The size is perfect in hand and pocket.
And the cherry on the cake you get B20 LTE if you need it.
Go forward
See you elsewhere!
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Mi4C has 5inch screen ...
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I know . But others are not and since you posted it in here under the Mi 4C subforum it makes that by context I am comparint the 3s to mi4c.
Rn3pro for the great soc and custom rom support , just live with the size I guess
I have a note 3 pro for myself but it is a little bit too expensive
I think the only useful advantage of Mi 4C is its camera. Mi 4C camera takes amazing photos in good light.
Mi4c for better camera and better 1080p screen. Let us not forget that Mi4c is flagship series and not a Redmi. If battery life is #1 for you, then Redmi 3S.
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I think the only useful advantage of Mi 4C is its camera. Mi 4C camera takes amazing photos in good light.
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Don't forget excellent 1080p screen!
Mi4C has a 64-bit processor. That's also a big plus
I'd probably still get Mi4c. Great screen, above average camera, fairly fast, great custom ROM selection. Mine has weak GPS, but that's the only bad thing I have to say about the phone (and I suppose it's not an universal problem since many ppl say theirs work great). Go with either one, you won't be disappointed. It can't get much better than this, considering the price point.
This phone is hot, shorter battery, weak gps and no sd card, if you can live with that, why not
I hesitate now...
You should consider the Xiaomi Redmi 4 Pro that came out November 4th. Dirt cheap on resellers sites, just about 10 dollars or so more expensive than Redmi 3S, but performance is obviously a lot better. Battery life shouldn't suffer a lot at all, since the SD 625 is very efficient.
I have a budget of 100€ not one more... it's for a kid...
Mate, just go for either Redmi 3S or Mi4C, both are great and if you're buying it as a gift, then even better. I'm probably a bit biased because I own a Mi4C, but still. I bought it a month ago and I couldn't be happier. The battery is completely okey, it lasts me the whole day without problems, camera is fantastic, the screen is gorgeous and from the technical standpoint it should receive community updates longer than Redmi 3S. But as I said, the Redmi 3S is a good phone as well, so whichever you'll choose, you won't go wrong.
Hi.
In my opinion (I have both devices), 3S is smaller and has longer battery but Screen is HD (thats one reason because battery is longer) and of course fingerprint (that really i never use). However, Mi4c has better resolution and powerful SoC, Wifi capabilities, and also double flash/camera for night photos.
Now I'm using Mi4c with Cm14 and I love it! Smooth, fast... and everything in bright and FullHD.

Will you change your mate 9 for Oneplus 3t or for LG G6

Hi guys, I'm in a little dilemma right now, because I'm happy with the mate 9 but the lack I developing, and after 1 month of use I thought battery life is not as good as it's seems for a 4000 mha battery.
So I want to ask to the mate 9 owners, that also have tested or own an Oneplus 3t or the LG G6 or even the galaxy s8.if you will switch the mate 9 for one of this phones.
For the Oneplus 3t in my country I can get only a trait switching phone by phone.
For the lg g6 I've have to pay some extra 250 dollars plus the mate 9.
And for the galaxy s8 I'll have to pay a ridiculous extra amount of 500 dollars plus the mate 9. And thats the main reason, right now I'm not switching to the s8. It's absolutely insane to pay almost 500 dollar plus a 600 dollars mate 9.
So guys, do you think it's worth the price to pay extra money for the lg g6, or switch for the Oneplus 3t without paying extra money. Thanks for your responses. It will be greatly apreciated.
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Hi guys, I'm in a little dilemma right now, because I'm happy with the mate 9 but the lack I developing, and after 1 month of use I thought battery life is not as good as it's seems for a 4000 mha battery.
So I want to ask to the mate 9 owners, that also have tested or own an Oneplus 3t or the LG G6 or even the galaxy s8.if you will switch the mate 9 for one of this phones.
For the Oneplus 3t in my country I can get only a trait switching phone by phone.
For the lg g6 I've have to pay some extra 250 dollars plus the mate 9.
And for the galaxy s8 I'll have to pay a ridiculous extra amount of 500 dollars plus the mate 9. And thats the main reason, right now I'm not switching to the s8. It's absolutely insane to pay almost 500 dollar plus a 600 dollars mate 9.
So guys, do you think it's worth the price to pay extra money for the lg g6, or switch for the Oneplus 3t without paying extra money. Thanks for your responses. It will be greatly apreciated.
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Never not changing it for G6 or 3T they are not even a competition from my perspective
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Never not changing it for G6 or 3T they are not even a competition from my perspective
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Thanks for your response. I'm agreed with you. But here in my country the mate 9 it's really underestimated and underrated, it's ridiculous but here the re sale prices of the OP3t and mate 9 are the same.
I came from a s7 edge and a Oneplus 3 and I miss the battery efficiency from the s7 edge, and the extra features and developer support from the Oneplus 3
I think I'll keep the mate 9 at least the Oneplus 5 come out.
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Thanks for your response. I'm agreed with you. But here in my country the mate 9 it's really underestimated and underrated, it's ridiculous but here the re sale prices of the OP3t and mate 9 are the same.
I came from a s7 edge and a Oneplus 3 and I miss the battery efficiency from the s7 edge, and the extra features and developer support from the Oneplus 3
I think I'll keep the mate 9 at least the Oneplus 5 come out.
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Yes that's correct and I was not sure about the mate 9 till I decided to give it a try and it's awesome I don't care for 4K screen on the phone so for me it's all good especially battery life
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mate 9 is on par with g6 and 3t, if not better. if you upgrade to s8 when i understand.
but if you are very into flashing 3rd party roms, then 3t maybe is a way to go.
i got mate 9 so i can have a stable android experience that don't require flashing all the time.
I've had same dilemma, but I think Mate 9 is the best option at the moment. I've had the 3T, but in terms of speed the difference is bearly noticeable, but the camera of 3T is a no-go, very bad focusing compared to the Mate. Only thing that I can consider it much better on 3T is headphones sound. The LG G6 doesn't seem to be much an upgrade, and it's slower than the Mate. The S8 too expensive for what it delivers and prone to accidents, even if Gorilla 5 , bla bla ...
For the moment there aren't too many options better than the mighty Mate, maybe second half of the year will bring us more.
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mate 9 is on par with g6 and 3t, if not better. if you upgrade to s8 when i understand.
but if you are very into flashing 3rd party roms, then 3t maybe is a way to go.
i got mate 9 so i can have a stable android experience that don't require flashing all the time.
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Yes I think the same, switching to the s8 will be an upgrade, for the Oneplus 3t is like a downgrade and for the g6 I thing it's almost the same as Oneplus 3t but with the same lack of support as the mate 9, only plus I see in g6 is the screen. But not for paying an extra 250 dollars.
The Mate9 is a pretty good phone, even with its known problems. IMO there's not another phone out there at the moment that is significantly better and worth trading for.
But when the Note 8 comes out, that may change.
No only for mate 10
Or my mix 2 on note 8
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Mate 9 is near perfect
I had
One plus 3t
Nexus 6p
Note 7
S7 edge
Zte z11
Mate 9 is better in performance and sound and cpu is amazing camera is great with manual
I was in your dilemma (before buying the Mate 9) after days of careful research which included watching countless comparisons (speed, spec, durability, camera, battery etc) of Mate 9 VS O+3T, s7e, ip7plus & others 9n YouTube, I went with mate 9 & I'm super happy anytime I remember I almost went for others most especially, O+3T.
I don't know why you're complaining about the battery cos I'm a heavy user and I always get about 30% charge left with 8+hrs SOT when I get home by midnight or 1am.
My only pain is not being able to install nethunter from official sources and I don't want to try a workaround for fear of bricking beyond repair.
I love this phone.
Wouldn't get the LG G6. It will be in the $300 range in no time. they do not hold their value.
Oneplus if modding community is important.
I personally would go for the 6p if you can find a good one but that's just me though. Until next round of phablets come out.
i wouldn't change it for any of the phones you mentioned maybe for note 8 but even when is out I will have to see it and tested it first in the store, my mate 9 has been working really nice even without fully integration with google (i have chinese version) battery life is great almost close to 24 hours under heavy use, regarding your problem I experienced some issues after the last fw upgrade and after doing the following it went back to normal:
1) wipe cache
2) apply any missing updates, restart and delete your google account
3)re-add google account, reapply permissions for phone access and notifications, deplete the battery (until phone dies on your hands)
4) charge and start using it, in my case after this all issues with google apps using a lot of battery and notifications and autosync not working was fixed.
hope this helps, good luck
Meh flashing roms gets old after a while. Mate 9/P10/P10 plus already offer a very nice experience out of the box. There isn't really any need for root on them.
I have come from Samsung series. Things I enjoy on Huawei Mate 9 are,
> Best Battery Life (I don't know why you are not getting good battery life)
> Large screen and better screen to body ratio
> Good customization options
> Smoother software experience
> Fast Charging (I never miss Samsung fast charging)
But Things I miss of Samsung Series are,
> Camera... Although Huawei Mate 9 has dual camera setup and offer many manual controls but due to f/2.2 in main camera i.e. 12 MP it does not gets much details in regular shots. As we use cell phone for capturing instant shots so Mate 9 is not a perfect camera phone. Like in Samsung flagships we just take the phone out of pocket and take far more better shots in auto mode. More importantly the low light photos are really noisy and poorly detailed.
I am not an engineer but instead of using 20 MP monochrome and 12 MP f/2.2 color sensor Huawei should have assembled mate 9 camera as
12 MP monochrome + 20 MP color sensor
or
20 MP monochrome + 12 MP f/1.7 color sensor....
Well no long details, in short I really don't enjoy the camera of Huawei Mate 9
> Capacitive navigation keys (it varies from person to person) but in my opinion on screen keys do take a noticeable part of your phone's screen
No way, the only candidates are Mate 10, Note 8 ou Mi Mix 2, none of them exist yet.
S8+ is a beautiful phone (S8 regular is just too small), but with so little edges all around, I think it is hard to operate it, also not a fan of these new taller screens (G6 and S8).
Mate 9 is very good all around (screen, performance, battery, camera, price), my only complaint (and not much of a one) is his weight. Just that.

I'm DONE with XIAOMI PHONES!!!

Before i say anything, just want to say that i was FAN of Xiaomi phone for almost 4 years, my first phone was Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 (2/16 GB Helio X10) and that phone really was GREAT for that price... that phone had great perfomance for what you pay and also had GREAT QUALITY!!! That phone after almost 3 years is still alive, the only problem with this phone is BATTERY but side from that IT WORKS GREAT!!!
Now, last year i have buy couple Xiaomi phones:
Xiaomi Redmi 4x (For my dad)
Xiaomi Redmi Note 4x (For my nephew)
Xiaomi Redmi 5a (For my Sister)
Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 (Global Version 4/64) for me!!!
Now after 3 month of use Redmi Note 4 (4/64 Global) this phone had Screen Retention that is very bad, right now screen is disaster for that phone, every time you use phone, you see shadows of last app used and icons. This was first time experience with this type of problem so i GOOGLE IT. After couple hours reaserch on net i found out that this is HARDWARE problem because Xiaomi use CHEAP screen called TIENMA PANNEL so to repeair i need to buy screen replacement because all phones that i buy are from ONLINE SHOP and you dont have warranty!!!
Now this same problem is also on my NEPHEW (Redmi Note 4x) he really watch his phone, because he did not go anywhere to save money for his first good phone and after 2-3 months he find out that have THE SAME problem as my phone... at that time i was afraid to buy any new phone from this company because 2/4 phone has the same problem.
But after seeing NEW Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Global Version i could not resist so i did Pre-Order this phone on 29 March (Aliexpress) and after 41 days on 10 May that long awaited phone has arived, this phone was gorgeous, it has great look, great camera, great perfomance and i did pay only 137 euro for 3/32 GB version so i was very happy with my purchase!!! But i did notice that screen was strange, it looked just like my Redmi Note 4 so i GOOGLE "XIAOMI REDMI NOTE 5 SCREEN RETENTION" but i did not see any thread about this problem so that was great news. BUT after couple of weeks i did see that someone have the SAME problem as Redmi Note 4 Screen Retention and at that time i was thinking to sell this phone before it get this problem but i did not wanted because i LOVE IT and i kept it.
Now TONIGHT after playing game (Clash Royale) i did notice on my NEW Redmi Note 5 on TOP LEFT AND TOP RIGHT shadow icons of that game and at that time i realized that THIS PHONE HAS THE SAME F*** PROBLEM!!! Now i'm really mad, really disappointed at this company!!! I can not believe that on 3/5 phone have the same STUPID problem. So i GOOGLE IT again and see what type of screen is my phone... couple hours research i did see that this phone has the same STUPID TIENMA PANNEL!!!
This is the last time for me buying XIAOMI PHONES, i had enough problem with this company and this was my last phone from this company!!!
Please share your expreince with Redmi Note phones, if you have the same problem please let me now down below!!!
Sorry for bad writing because i'm not that good at english!
All phones i did buy from aliexpress
Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Global Version (From Xiaomi Online Store) Screen Retention Problem
Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 Global Version (From HongKong Goldway) Screen Retention Problem
Xiaomi Redmi Note 4x (From HongKong Goldway) Screen Retention Problem
Xiaomi Redmi 4x (From HongKong Goldway) NO PROBLEM
Xiaomi Redmi 5a (From Xiaomi Online Store) For now NO PROBLEM
I got the same phone 4/64 variant with tianma screen. Not a single issue so far. I've been using it for two months with some heavy gaming and everything stills perfect.
I also don't have that issue. Let your phone rest man. And don't always use it on full brightness. Go to display settings > contrast and set to COOL.
Even flagship devices has that problem. What would you choose an amoled burn which is permanent or image retention which is temporary???
Redmi note 5 from gearbest no issue in daily use auto brightness.
Lol, okay. No problems here
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Lol, okay. No problems here
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Go do research about other phones in this price bracket. People pay 130euros for really good specs, then expect phone to be perfect. Seriously, screen burn in, retention and stuff like that is quite common faults nowadays, even pixels have huge problem with burn in, same for lg.. and those are phones that cost 8x the price of xiaomi. And the fact that majority of users dont have these problems, leads me to believe its the way you use your phone thats harmful. Maybe you always leave it on max brightness, also contrast.
Lot of anti Xiaomi trolls these days... I don't know what people expect... May be it's the AliExpress/wish effect... Low price, low price, ever and ever.
Envoyé de mon Redmi Note 5 en utilisant Tapatalk
Flash lineage and lower rgb using live display. Problem solved.
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So you joined this forum yesterday just to write this
It´s pretty obvious that you're hating for some reason.
Trying to get rid of the competition
Maybe the reason this individual is hating is due to the frustrations that they've expressed with their post.
for me tianma panels are good , wait till you use boa panels ,theres a lots of complaint out there.
abdominazer said:
So you joined this forum yesterday just to write this
It´s pretty obvious that you're hating for some reason.
Trying to get rid of the competition
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He joined the forum to report a problem with his devices and warn others. If he would’ve joined just to post a positive review, you probably wouldn’t post the same response. I think his experience is legitimate, even if not a lot of people share it.

Which cell is just as good as the 20x mate?

What After adding to Huawei blacklist Trump that big screen cell phone would be good to buy. I love my 20x mate but let's be honest this will affect a lot to Huawei and q out your operating system and my OS) or is apps that has Google market are going to happen years it is possible that the factory only dedicated to continue selling in China and no longer internationally.
I honestly don't think there are any as good.
I didn't want to buy a Huawei because I'd much rather have an unlocked bootloader, but for me, the big screen, active pen, big battery, and fast cpu are too important to give up.
If you don't mind a slower CPU and no pen, but still want the huge screen, go with the Mi Max series.
If you want the pen, go with the Samsung Note 9.
I you just want an overall good phone, then there are plenty of other options depending on your priorities.
But I'd stick with the Mate 20 X. We shouldn't be affected that much. I'd guessing there will still be software updates for next year or so. I just bought mine 2 weeks ago and don't regret it at all.
I want a mate 20x another brand y :laugh:
Cmon, u really run already.
All will be good again in one way or another [emoji1787][emoji23]
ZenFone 6!! Looks promising.
Actually i would go for zenfone as first choice, then mi max and in last place this could be samsung note series, depends on what battery will be in 10 release.
I'm thinking about the Oppo Reno 10x Zoom, nice looking phone with full flat screen/no notch, camera upgrade or the Nubia Red Magic 3 with a 90Hz screen and also a 5000mAh battery. I now that that both are 6.65 inch and smaller then the Mate 20 X, but i hide the notch from the begin, so i think the difference wil not be huge.
The ZenFone 6 is a no go for me, because it doesn't have a amoled screen. I really don't want a new phone without it.
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I honestly don't think there are any as good.
I didn't want to buy a Huawei because I'd much rather have an unlocked bootloader, but for me, the big screen, active pen, big battery, and fast cpu are too important to give up.
If you don't mind a slower CPU and no pen, but still want the huge screen, go with the Mi Max series.
If you want the pen, go with the Samsung Note 9.
I you just want an overall good phone, then there are plenty of other options depending on your priorities.
But I'd stick with the Mate 20 X. We shouldn't be affected that much. I'd guessing there will still be software updates for next year or so. I just bought mine 2 weeks ago and don't regret it at all.
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Yeah I am in the same boat...I mean already the Mate 20 x looks like a Hobbit compared to where I was coming from mediapad X2 and Sony Z3 Tablet Compact so I am having a hard time adjusting to the much smaller size but of course, the hardware itself is WAY above both of those phablets I had before.
All of these other phones are much narrower and smaller than the 20 X. A friend of mine wanted to try the OP7 Pro and we went to T-Mobile yesterday and he bought one to use along side his 20 X but after a day he said it's probably going back as it's just way too small. The camera isn't as good and the battery life isn't even close to the 20 X. My advice would be to keep the 20 X until another manufacturer decides to make a phone as large as the 20 X.
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All of these other phones are much narrower and smaller than the 20 X. A friend of mine wanted to try the OP7 Pro and we went to T-Mobile yesterday and he bought one to use along side his 20 X but after a day he said it's probably going back as it's just way too small. The camera isn't as good and the battery life isn't even close to the 20 X. My advice would be to keep the 20 X until another manufacturer decides to make a phone as large as the 20 X.
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But the OP7 Pro looks smaller because it has curved glass, what i really don't like.
I still think it's all going to blow over and in a few months the wotsit in a wig and china will come to some sort of agreement, somewhat annoying that Donald making a decision like this affects us non Americans!
But, if the worst happened, as long as the play store etc was ok then I'd probably just carry on and keep using the Mate 20 X, Android P works fine for me so I can live with the phone staying as it is for another 12 months or so.
The only tempting part will be when the Pixel 4 and Note 10 are released and seeing what they are bringing with them, but they'd have to offer something ridiculously special which i doubt they will do
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But the OP7 Pro looks smaller because it has curved glass, what i really don't like.
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The OP7 Pro also has a 19.5:9 aspect ratio which is skinnier than the Mate 20 X's 18.7:9 and the crappy curved glass doesn't help. It sucks with phones when you live in the US. Not a lot of Global devices support all the US LTE bands.
Hi guys,
What other phone is just as good as the 20x ?
Answer is really simple : NONE.
Please don't get me wrong : I am by no means a Huawei/Honor fan.
Quite the opposite...
But let's face it : what other manufacturer offer a display that is close or above 7" ?
Answer here is really simple : there are only 2.5 manufacturers doing this :
- Xiaomi with the mi Max 3 ;
- Honor with the Note 10 and 8x Max ;
- Huawei with the Mate 20x.
Compare the 20x with the mi Max 3 and the Honor 8x max is of course not a question. They're simply not playing in the same league.
One may say whatever he wants about the Kirin SoC, but comparing a Kirin 980 with e snapdragon 636 is just not fair.
And comparing an IPS display with an OLED one isn't a fair comparison either.
So that leaves the Honor Note 10.
But it may have the same issues as Huawei. about Android.
And to make things clear : the developlment of Android has been halted to Huawei.
But :
- that doesn't mean that the past is getting rid off ; so if the phone is working right now, it will continue to work right after...
- Huawei still has access to the free source aosp and has enough power to continue to offer some updates based on that. And honestly : who is buying Huawei for the frequent updates ? You want a phone that is updated constantly ? There's only one manufacturer to go : Xiaomi... monthly updates for all their phones.
Just my own thoughts and expressing a personal opinion. I don't try to force my views on this upon any member of this community. So please, do not flame me if you disagree...
Regards.
I had all 4 phones, now i only have the M20X which is so much better the the other 3.
Then comes Note 10, Mi max 3 and 8X max.
And im satisfied as it is, so i can live with it 1 year more if.
I just hope Ark OS soon will be released, im ready to support that vs Trump/US/Google/Android no matter what. This fake president shall not decide my choice of phone.
Even if I am upset about Huawei system update policies, I've never been so comfortable with a phone before (well, maybe the Ascend Mate 7).
- The REAL dual speakers are incredibly outstanding. My wife ditched the iPad Mini-bluetooth speaker pair to start watching anything video-related on my 20X with me. We are really impressed.
- Speaking of multimedia, the screen is simply gorgeous.
- I hadn't ANY issue with ANY game. Period. I know the 855 is all around the news today, but this Kirin is nowhere behind. It flies.
- Calls are loud and crisp, seomthing which is really important for me.
- We have an LG Smart TV with webOS. It took me like 1 minute to launch the desktop from the 20X. I've tested it a couple of times, but I think this feature is something I will start using more frequently in the future, for sure.
- One of the best cameras around, even in night mode. No, no GCam needed, it does its work effortlessly and fluidly, something every frigging flagship camera should do (and not every one of them do).
Even if I only get security patches for the rest of its life, I'm keeping this beauty for a LONG time.
I also love the speakers, what phone has two real speakers? Mostly the second speaker is the call speaker now and that's sounds bad. The same with the IR blaster, what new phone has that?
I wish that 5G version was a nice upgrade (WQHD+ screen, higher ppi, 90hz, under–screen fingerprint, more ram/storage, no notch, more zoom camera), but it looks more like a downgrade.
https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_mate_20_x_5g_bags_3c_certification_in_china-news-37546.php
Oukitel K9 7.12" with 6000mAH battery
I have this device
looks like a 20x clone minus some of the polish-not as fast not as loud but am sure can be improved a lot
has all US bands like 20x so works great here
stock Android 9
I got the SP flash tool flashable ROM
attached are the ROM contents
wonder if anyone could take up this for development
I picked it up from AliExpress for $179
Great great battery life better than 20x imo (but then performance is a price you pay-could be the Mediatek versus Kirin and just s/w ui polish missing)
EDIT it does have OEM bootloader unlocker option that you can choose and set active
not tried it yet-maybe it is a simple fastboot unlocker command without code (don't know untl I try or I might ask the company contacts who sent me the ROM and instructions etc)
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Mediatek versus Kirin and just s/w ui polish missing)
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Lmao as soon as I saw mediatek, instant turn off for me
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Lmao as soon as I saw mediatek, instant turn off for me
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Lmao as soon as I saw mediatek, instant turn off for me
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good you got a laugh from the wrong end he he
for calls, sms, mms, internet and most apps same result for 1/3rd the price
the 0.3 cumulative seconds saved over time did not change my life (doubt changes anyone's in reality)
definitely the 20x feels better no doubt having used both
asked a serious question and posed facts without embellishment
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I had all 4 phones, now i only have the M20X which is so much better the the other 3.
Then comes Note 10, Mi max 3 and 8X max.
And im satisfied as it is, so i can live with it 1 year more if.
I just hope Ark OS soon will be released, im ready to support that vs Trump/US/Google/Android no matter what. This fake president shall not decide my choice of phone.
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the mi max 3 imo was the best among the lot and I liked it more than the 20x ...the lack of network bands support (only 4 and 5 for Tmobile and ATT, and ATT does not even broadcast on 4 in my state, 5 is very spotty-so it was mostly on 3g or umts) otherwise mi max 3 with miui candy was the best also from balance, weight and feel standpoint
too bad no mi max 4 and mi mix 4 will never get a 6.9 variant
it seems to me that the OEMs are walking away from the large screens
why? 8x max came in the 7.2" first that the mate 20x eventually got
now 9x max is only coming in the 6.59" (as is the 9x)
then you have Xiaomi not doing the max 4
so that tells me the 6.9 to 7.2 era is done or on a pause for now
instead get 6.6 and 6.7 super skinny phones purporting to be large screen phones when they are not due to the elongated aspect ratios
Unfortunately true, aspect 19.5x9 or new 20x9 is killing size, 6.7inch samsung a70 or op 7 pro have real size of old 16x9 phone 6 inch. This is nothing.
I think also that they kill 7 inch products to make space for foldable phones which costs few times more...
But still I hope Huawei will make 30x! Not just hope, but really think it is real.

NBA: Realme 5 Pro or Redmi Note 8 Pro

Hi all,
I am thinking of buying a new Smartphone. In my country Realme 5 Pro 8GB/128GB and Redmi Note 8 Pro 6GB/128GB are similarly priced. I am really really confused between these two.
Which one should I pick?
You expert opinions are required.
Thanks in advance.
No-one yet?
I am more inclined towards Realme 5 Pro basically due to SD712, Sony Camera Sensor and 8GB Ram Variant.
Currently I am using Realme 3. I don't like Color OS and Camera App. But I have heard that Realme will be providing its own UI with stock like experience. Is it true? And is there any changes in Stock Camera App expected?
Well that's a tough decision. I just bought RM5P 8/128 GB. Have used Xiaomi for about 4+ years and was happy with performance and software. Xiaomi provides lot of power packed software feature and highly customizable UI. But having used for more than 4 years, I was bored with MIUI, so I thought of switching to something relatable.
After I got my hands on RM5P, I was disappointed with the software and less customizable UI, but man, I have no words for the performance and camera. I am glad I made a good decision switching to this as this one has power packed hardware features which no brand has given in this price range. Hopefully, the software will be improved progressively.
My advice: If you have never used Xiaomi, go for Redmi Note 8 pro. Else go for RM5P. You will be happy with both.
Currently using Realme 5 pro(6GB Variant). To be honest, Redmi Note 8 pro looks more premium with its glass back. Realme 5 pro does look somewhat premium but nowhere close to Redmi Note 8 pro. The Redmi has a faster CPU and GPU but I heard some issues with overheating( and I don't have faith in Mediatek). In the realme, I have not encountered any overheatiing isues till now. But playing PUBG for longer periods makes the phone a little bit warm which is completely normal. If you want a phone for heavy gaming go with POCO F1, this phone is way better in terms of performance but looks kinda outdated( I regret not buying it). If you want a premium feeling device go for Redmi Note 8 Pro & if you want a overall better device go for Realme 5 pro.
Thanks, and what about Camera performance?
Wolverinedd2 said:
Currently using Realme 5 pro(6GB Variant). To be honest, Redmi Note 8 pro looks more premium with its glass back. Realme 5 pro does look somewhat premium but nowhere close to Redmi Note 8 pro. The Redmi has a faster CPU and GPU but I heard some issues with overheating( and I don't have faith in Mediatek). In the realme, I have not encountered any overheatiing isues till now. But playing PUBG for longer periods makes the phone a little bit warm which is completely normal. If you want a phone for heavy gaming go with POCO F1, this phone is way better in terms of performance but looks kinda outdated( I regret not buying it). If you want a premium feeling device go for Redmi Note 8 Pro & if you want a overall better device go for Realme 5 pro.
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vinitsorte said:
Well that's a tough decision. I just bought RM5P 8/128 GB. Have used Xiaomi for about 4+ years and was happy with performance and software. Xiaomi provides lot of power packed software feature and highly customizable UI. But having used for more than 4 years, I was bored with MIUI, so I thought of switching to something relatable.
After I got my hands on RM5P, I was disappointed with the software and less customizable UI, but man, I have no words for the performance and camera. I am glad I made a good decision switching to this as this one has power packed hardware features which no brand has given in this price range. Hopefully, the software will be improved progressively.
My advice: If you have never used Xiaomi, go for Redmi Note 8 pro. Else go for RM5P. You will be happy with both.
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I Have used Redmi Note 4 a very long time ago and I don't really hate MIUI that much. Color Os is totally on other level of crap.
waqar bukhari said:
I Have used Redmi Note 4 a very long time ago and I don't really hate MIUI that much. Color Os is totally on other level of crap.
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I agree, MIUI is a little better than ColorOS except the ads.
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I agree, MIUI is a little better than ColorOS except the ads.
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I don't think there are any ads in my country. And There is an option to turn off the ads as well.
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I don't think there are any ads in my country. And There is an option to turn off the ads as well.
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Then MIUI is definitely better but would you prefer it over stock android?
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Thanks, and what about Camera performance?
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Realme 5 pro has very capable cameras but the 48MP images doesn't look that sharp. Normal 12MP is better( I think).
Don't know about the note!!
waqar bukhari said:
Hi all,
I am thinking of buying a new Smartphone. In my country Realme 5 Pro 8GB/128GB and Redmi Note 8 Pro 6GB/128GB are similarly priced. I am really really confused between these two.
Which one should I pick?
You expert opinions are required.
Thanks in advance.
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I just bought Realme 5 Pro 4/128 variant after (and still) owning Realme 3 Pro 6/128. I have considered Redmi Note 8 Pro before buying, but at the end I chose Realme. Here is why:
- Photography is the most important factor for me, thus I was looking for a phone with Qualcomm SOC because it will have Gcam mod for it. But then I saw on youtube lately that gcam mod also has been made available for RN8 Pro with mediatek chipset, but unfortunately the stock camera is still better than the Gcam on that phone. In case you don't know, the right Gcam variant with the right settings on Realme 3/5 Pro is amazing. I have compared it with my friend's Galaxy S9 and S10 and it put them both to shame when you examine the detail side by side at 1:1 zoom. Gcam on realme even manage to equal or beat my mirrorless M4/3 panasonic gx85!
- I read that RN8 Pro has touchscreen issues that still has not been fixed till now.
For me, ColorOS is ok. It has very aggressive RAM / battery management that often closing running apps eventhough there is still plenty of available RAM. So I just turned off the power saving feature (called 'Smart Power Saver') and use 'custom power saver' that allows you to set background running permission individually for each of your apps that you know shouldn't be close automatically like gps sport tracking app in my case. In app management setting screen you can also specify that certain apps are allowed to do auto start. You can also locked the app in the recent app screen so that it won't be closed. Unfortunately that setting is not persistent and only work until the next restart.
I'd never prefer an mtk powered device over an SD one. Just look at rm8p xda development forum and here. Words are quite unnecessary.
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I'd never prefer an mtk powered device over an SD one. Just look at rm8p xda development forum and here. Words are quite unnecessary.
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You are right. But I am not into rooting and stuff.
Gnusvol said:
I just bought Realme 5 Pro 4/128 variant after (and still) owning Realme 3 Pro 6/128. I have considered Redmi Note 8 Pro before buying, but at the end I chose Realme. Here is why:
- Photography is the most important factor for me, thus I was looking for a phone with Qualcomm SOC because it will have Gcam mod for it. But then I saw on youtube lately that gcam mod also has been made available for RN8 Pro with mediatek chipset, but unfortunately the stock camera is still better than the Gcam on that phone. In case you don't know, the right Gcam variant with the right settings on Realme 3/5 Pro is amazing. I have compared it with my friend's Galaxy S9 and S10 and it put them both to shame when you examine the detail side by side at 1:1 zoom. Gcam on realme even manage to equal or beat my mirrorless M4/3 panasonic gx85!
- I read that RN8 Pro has touchscreen issues that still has not been fixed till now.
For me, ColorOS is ok. It has very aggressive RAM / battery management that often closing running apps eventhough there is still plenty of available RAM. So I just turned off the power saving feature (called 'Smart Power Saver') and use 'custom power saver' that allows you to set background running permission individually for each of your apps that you know shouldn't be close automatically like gps sport tracking app in my case. In app management setting screen you can also specify that certain apps are allowed to do auto start. You can also locked the app in the recent app screen so that it won't be closed. Unfortunately that setting is not persistent and only work until the next restart.
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I have used gcam with my LG G6 and the results very stunning. But on my Realme 3 gcam is not as good.
Thank you very much for a detailed reply. I also feel the same.
I have also made the similar thread in RN8 pro forum and no-one has yet replied ?.
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Realme 5 pro has very capable cameras but the 48MP images doesn't look that sharp. Normal 12MP is better( I think).
Don't know about the note!!
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I have never used stock Android Before. I have heard a lot of praise though. I am not sure if I would like it or not.
I have seen the camera Comparison of both these devices on youtube and dynamic range of Realeme 5 Pro is really much better.
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You are right. But I am not into rooting and stuff.
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Well, as you wish but rooting and custom stuff can noticeably lengthen your device's life span and raise performance, lower battery consumption. Idk why would anyone willingly not want these but it's up to you. Even if you don't count these a SD powered device is mostly better choice for base lifespan of chipset is longer and features to add later are most of time more available for SD devices rather than mtk.
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Well, as you wish but rooting and custom stuff can noticeably lengthen your device's life span and raise performance, lower battery consumption. Idk why would anyone willingly not want these but it's up to you. Even if you don't count these a SD powered device is mostly better choice for base lifespan of chipset is longer and features to add later are most of time more available for SD devices rather than mtk.
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I have also come to know that Xiaomi Has released Source Code or something like that which will be very helpful for development. Actually I read it on XDA review. They also wrote that they have shipped few RN8 Pro to devs for active development. Although Development Section of RN8 Pro seems very inactive as compared to Realme 5 Pro section.
Most Probably anyone buying phone is this range will be buying a new phone after one year so Longer Life Span of phone is just not required if it can live for one year with its performance intact (Which I have doubt about due to mediatek).
Most of the people will never use Rooting and stuff on their phones even if the stuff is available for their phones (I Guess). But it is always nice to have support for your device. It is a plus but not a negative in my view.
Gnusvol said:
I just bought Realme 5 Pro 4/128 variant after (and still) owning Realme 3 Pro 6/128. I have considered Redmi Note 8 Pro before buying, but at the end I chose Realme. Here is why:
- Photography is the most important factor for me, thus I was looking for a phone with Qualcomm SOC because it will have Gcam mod for it. But then I saw on youtube lately that gcam mod also has been made available for RN8 Pro with mediatek chipset, but unfortunately the stock camera is still better than the Gcam on that phone. In case you don't know, the right Gcam variant with the right settings on Realme 3/5 Pro is amazing. I have compared it with my friend's Galaxy S9 and S10 and it put them both to shame when you examine the detail side by side at 1:1 zoom. Gcam on realme even manage to equal or beat my mirrorless M4/3 panasonic gx85!
- I read that RN8 Pro has touchscreen issues that still has not been fixed till now.
For me, ColorOS is ok. It has very aggressive RAM / battery management that often closing running apps eventhough there is still plenty of available RAM. So I just turned off the power saving feature (called 'Smart Power Saver') and use 'custom power saver' that allows you to set background running permission individually for each of your apps that you know shouldn't be close automatically like gps sport tracking app in my case. In app management setting screen you can also specify that certain apps are allowed to do auto start. You can also locked the app in the recent app screen so that it won't be closed. Unfortunately that setting is not persistent and only work until the next restart.
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There is a 4/128GB variant? Btw which gcam version did you use?
Gnusvol said:
I just bought Realme 5 Pro 4/128 variant after (and still) owning Realme 3 Pro 6/128. I have considered Redmi Note 8 Pro before buying, but at the end I chose Realme. Here is why:
- Photography is the most important factor for me, thus I was looking for a phone with Qualcomm SOC because it will have Gcam mod for it. But then I saw on youtube lately that gcam mod also has been made available for RN8 Pro with mediatek chipset, but unfortunately the stock camera is still better than the Gcam on that phone. In case you don't know, the right Gcam variant with the right settings on Realme 3/5 Pro is amazing. I have compared it with my friend's Galaxy S9 and S10 and it put them both to shame when you examine the detail side by side at 1:1 zoom. Gcam on realme even manage to equal or beat my mirrorless M4/3 panasonic gx85!
- I read that RN8 Pro has touchscreen issues that still has not been fixed till now.
For me, ColorOS is ok. It has very aggressive RAM / battery management that often closing running apps eventhough there is still plenty of available RAM. So I just turned off the power saving feature (called 'Smart Power Saver') and use 'custom power saver' that allows you to set background running permission individually for each of your apps that you know shouldn't be close automatically like gps sport tracking app in my case. In app management setting screen you can also specify that certain apps are allowed to do auto start. You can also locked the app in the recent app screen so that it won't be closed. Unfortunately that setting is not persistent and only work until the next restart.
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Which GCam version did you use?
waqar bukhari said:
I have also come to know that Xiaomi Has released Source Code or something like that which will be very helpful for development. Actually I read it on XDA review. They also wrote that they have shipped few RN8 Pro to devs for active development. Although Development Section of RN8 Pro seems very inactive as compared to Realme 5 Pro section.
Most Probably anyone buying phone is this range will be buying a new phone after one year so Longer Life Span of phone is just not required if it can live for one year with its performance intact (Which I have doubt about due to mediatek).
Most of the people will never use Rooting and stuff on their phones even if the stuff is available for their phones (I Guess). But it is always nice to have support for your device. It is a plus but not a negative in my view.
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Absolutely agree. Although even with released source code and free gift devices to developers indeed xda seems way more inactive if we compare redmi note 8 pro and realme 5 pro. I'm absolutely glad I bought this device instead of rm8p especially as you said custom stuff support and help. Probably mtk devices aren't the favorite of developers either so rm5p getting faster development with delayed source code reveal and even without gift devices to devs.
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There is a 4/128GB variant? Btw which gcam version did you use?
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Yes there is in Indonesia.
This version MGC_6.1.021_MI8_V2e.apk
In addition to the instruction there to set the saturation, I activate HDR+ enhanched mode which gives much better result in settings > general - advanced > HDR+ control = on and then set to hdr+ enhanced in the camera main screen.

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