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Okay it can be argued that I don't post much here, But that is partly cause I am a person that searches and reads and usually finds the answers to my questions. On this FORUM it is increasingly taking more and more time for me to find simple answers to my questions. There are far to many post in threads that are 100% POINT LESS!!! In on thread that I read through there was 23 post between two people saying thank you....In another there is a 32 answers to the same question that are all within 26 minutes apart. This is a major waste of bandwidth, and it makes newbies post more repeated questions.
I can understand the frustration of senior members here whom constantly answer the same questions, and why do some people waste more space and time by saying "Hey newbie search" It took me over a hour to answer 2 questions I had about ADB but I found them, and did not waste peoples time, or space, bandwidth to answer.
Why not start a thank you thread? And sticky it, and then a Newbies Thread that is a sticky for the lazy newbies? I am no programmer, I know enough about Android to get me to brick my phone in a bad way. And when I need info I search for it. And it is taking me longer and getting me more frustrated cause I have to sort though DUMB crap post that mean nothing to anyone from the newbie up to the most senior member....
have some common sense before posting in a thread that is about a Build, The needed and the important post are lost in all the BS....
Rant over...
BTW thanks to some awesome guys that have put up some killer ROMS
so basically you want us to come up with one simple place where the answers to the most redundant threads can be found? one placec that all n00bs should read before they decide they wanna post a new thread to waste bandwidth and space? i see where you are coming from that it takes longer to find the answers we need, but part of that is because there are more posts that include the keyword you searched for. i personally try to find every thread that asked a question and read through it in it's entirety, then when i need to find the answer to a questions i may not remember the answer but i know about where to find it and i search based on what the thread was called.
i realize not everyone can be a jobless bum like me who almost lives on XDA but a lot of learning can be done by just reading threads as they pop up and keeping an eye on them. if more n00bs knew how to read it would make it a whole lot easier to find your answers because there wouldn't be a thousand posts that all answer the same question in a different way.
P.S. we have a place where most questions can be answered it's called a wiki
Two things I learned while working at Staples:
One was the show thread option of search because I don't have time to waste on all the "useless posts"
Two was the easy button because while it didn't make things easier it drowned out the whining.
Isn't this thread simply furthering the actions it objects? Well at least it is prevented from being an off-topic intermission to valuable knowledge.
Little known facts for G1 users: xda has a wiki and the Dream Android Development forum has an RSS link that is very effective on mobile readers.
Actually i agree with the part about people not using their brain and asking stupid question of just talking to talk. This does fill up alot of topics that bury the necessary/meaningful posts in a heap of like 30 pages.
The brain is the most important part of this forum and many other things, if you dont use your brain whats the point? I mean, you cant magically download a brain or even effort for that matter.
twistedumbrella said:
Isn't this thread simply furthering the actions it objects?
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i was thinking that but i figured i would let someone else say it as i had already said enough
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so basically you want us to come up with one simple place where the answers to the most redundant threads can be found? one placec that all n00bs should read before they decide they wanna post a new thread to waste bandwidth and space? i see where you are coming from that it takes longer to find the answers we need, but part of that is because there are more posts that include the keyword you searched for. i personally try to find every thread that asked a question and read through it in it's entirety, then when i need to find the answer to a questions i may not remember the answer but i know about where to find it and i search based on what the thread was called.
i realize not everyone can be a jobless bum like me who almost lives on XDA but a lot of learning can be done by just reading threads as they pop up and keeping an eye on them. if more n00bs knew how to read it would make it a whole lot easier to find your answers because there wouldn't be a thousand posts that all answer the same question in a different way.
P.S. we have a place where most questions can be answered it's called a wiki
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I don't have the answer or even claim to, But newbies aside, Why in the world do we have in one thread one whole page of thank yous that are not even related to the build? And they are between 2 people. In another thread we have 3 people answering the same question, with the same answer 3 times. Hell I guess I should stop searching and just ask, It is much easier.... Ohh Yea, Forgot I run a firearms forum and have respect to the knowledge base to not so that stupid crap... AND I know where the SEARCh function is
I am a newbie to this as well.... I have learned everything I know from the SEARCH function and reading.
I know i don't have the BEST reputation around here but i know what i am talking about for the most part and i am begging for you to help clean up this site and forum. For the last few weeks the number of repetitive posts has been absolutely ridiculous, every time I get on XDA i see so many threads that all ask the same thing. There are some many users that apparently think that this site is a tech support site and do not respect us at all. I know that XDA is THE site for the latest info on windows mobile and now android, but people seem to join just to ask simple questions like "my phone is stuck on t-mobile G1 screen" or "BRICK PLEASE HELP!!" most of the people on this site have lives and jobs but i do not. i have no problem helping new members and old members alike, but i do have a problem with stupidity. if a member is not capable or not willing to search for an answer then they either A. don't need it, or B. shouldn't have tried to begin with. i beg that every member on this site go through the first 10 pages of this development forum for our dream and count how many repetitive threads there are open or closed.
i request that we get another mod, i know neoobs and mikey are very busy and do not have time to monitor the forum 24-7 even between the two of them. if we were to get another mod for the forum i think we could start closing/deleting threads that have no right being opened/started, i am not saying that we need to start closing threads left and right, but i know there are at least 10 threads in the first ten pages that talk about Bricked phone that either tried the new SPL, or some other reason. if we had another mod then repeat threads could be closed after a link or answer, that way we aren't completely rude to people but we can keep the forums clean.
Also i realize we can't just go banning people left and right, but if a person joins XDA and in a week has only posted a few times and all posts have been new threads asking about things that have been discussed in detail then they should be suspended to give them a chance to learn how to use the search function and read a few threads and the rules.
i also agree with this.
everytime i log on to xda i have to catch up with a couple pages of new threads and its ridiculous.
I think if u went through those pages u would see 3 threads saying the same think. Well I thinks some got removed (just like this one will) but frankly I don't think there is solution maybe if u had to take quiz befor you could become a member or something. I have I had mistakes on here when i started about posting dumb stuff but yeah that's my 2 cents.
I agree the activity level of this forum (448 - Dream Android Development) ought to merit additional moderation. I mean absolutely no disrespect to those already volunteering their time to keep things tidy -- quite the opposite.
I'm only posting in this thread to voice the opinion that a couple more mods might go a long way to keep some of the more basic questions and chatter relegated to a more appropriate venue (447 - Dream, most likely) and keep the front page ripe with the glorious development meat we all crave.
I'm not saying I'm the chap for the job, but I'd sure be willing to pitch in if consensus agrees there is need. I f5 the site pretty much all day as it is.
I tend to agree but I'm a newb around here still more or less, well to xda anyways. I try to help folks but lose my patience when someone quotes the answer and asks for help. It did give me an ambitious idea though along the lines of a catchall guide for rooting fixing your phone.
i do not think that the solution is as simple as a quiz since this site is a great place for so many phones(anything made by HTC) and no one quiz would cover everything. i am not saying that i need to be the moderator, but i wouldn't complain if i was. i respect the mods that we have and i think they are doing an excellent job. i don't have a job, and don't go to school, i spent about four hours a day sleeping and tthe rest of my time i am either on Xda or trying to find some new fun thing to do with my phone. i do not really have any one specific person in mind that should or could be a mod, but i think that with just one more person they could make a wold of a difference on this forum. just think about it that's all i'm asking
One of the problems I have faced on here is that there are WAY too many threads that keep going and going, till they are 100 pages or better. When this happens, it is hard to expect people to read the entire thing, only to get to the last page and find that the method has now changed. I am sure a lot of them give up and just ask in a new thread.
One thing that I think would definitely help the clutter is if the stickied posts are very clearly and plainly worded- almost to the point of "dumbing it down", so the newbies can understand it. For example, someone reads in the market that a program requires "root". They decide they are up to try rooting, and look here for the answers. There is a nicely written sticky by Koush that covers it all. That is a nicely written and easy to follow thread. But wait, now they read that Cupcake is out...just look at all the options. Unless they knew they were looking specifically for "JFv1.51 CRB43" how would they know where to start? Set the standards for stickies high (especially the titles!), and maybe it will catch some of the newbies.
Just my $.02
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I know i don't have the BEST reputation around here but i know what i am talking about for the most part and i am begging for you to help clean up this site and forum. For the last few weeks the number of repetitive posts has been absolutely ridiculous, every time I get on XDA i see so many threads that all ask the same thing. There are some many users that apparently think that this site is a tech support site and do not respect us at all. I know that XDA is THE site for the latest info on windows mobile and now android, but people seem to join just to ask simple questions like "my phone is stuck on t-mobile G1 screen" or "BRICK PLEASE HELP!!" most of the people on this site have lives and jobs but i do not. i have no problem helping new members and old members alike, but i do have a problem with stupidity. if a member is not capable or not willing to search for an answer then they either A. don't need it, or B. shouldn't have tried to begin with. i beg that every member on this site go through the first 10 pages of this development forum for our dream and count how many repetitive threads there are open or closed.
i request that we get another mod, i know neoobs and mikey are very busy and do not have time to monitor the forum 24-7 even between the two of them. if we were to get another mod for the forum i think we could start closing/deleting threads that have no right being opened/started, i am not saying that we need to start closing threads left and right, but i know there are at least 10 threads in the first ten pages that talk about Bricked phone that either tried the new SPL, or some other reason. if we had another mod then repeat threads could be closed after a link or answer, that way we aren't completely rude to people but we can keep the forums clean.
Also i realize we can't just go banning people left and right, but if a person joins XDA and in a week has only posted a few times and all posts have been new threads asking about things that have been discussed in detail then they should be suspended to give them a chance to learn how to use the search function and read a few threads and the rules.
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So, I've been hanging around and reading this forum since around November last year. That is about 2 full months before I even bought my G1. I love this forum, I can always find the answers I need and I have NEVER once posted a new thread. I use the search function, follow links posted in other forums and just plain old read. That is why I'm probably still listed as a noob. The thing is I have experience in a multitude of forums on a multitude of different topics and items so I know to usually keep my mouth shut unless its a contribution or an emergency. With that said...
The problem is that not everyone knows forum etiquette. Not everyone has been to a forum community and knows how to search. Not everyone knows that search doesn't always work so now its time to scroll threads. Not everyone knows patience like us to take our time to learn. In fact, I think most of the noobs here probably don't know anything about forums, what their about and how they work. All they know is they got a new G1 and SOMEONE said, "hey, you wanna make you phone cooler, go to www.xda-developers.com", or "how did you get that wifi tether thing to work?" So, they show up totally confused and excited to make their g1 experience better. They search a little, read a little and end up completely lost like I did the first time I joined a forum because they really don't know anything but they want to learn. I know we post, "Read this first or get locked", or something like that, but they honestly don't know what to do. This is, in fact a forum, which is defined as a place to meet to discuss things. If we just want to dictate and not discuss, ask questions, answer, and help then why have an open forum?
I will give you this though, there are those that just don't care, know rules, know the proper flow of events and know how to do it in general but still just do what they want. The problem is, though, those are few and far between.
I constantly have to ready, "why is this thread here?", or "mods lock this please", or "don't you know how to use the search function"? Maybe the answer to that question is NO. So why not bee true senior members and answer the question but teach how to use search instead of ridiculing and acting like they are stupid. The fact is new people will ALWAYS show up to forums and will ALWAYS ask questions that you feel are dumb, and ALWAYS start threads without searching or reading so why get mad about it? Answer the question or don't answer the question and blow it off. Why such a big uproar?
Just my .02, sorry if my rant pissed you off and I hope you don't lock me for it.
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One of the problems I have faced on here is that there are WAY too many threads that keep going and going, till they are 100 pages or better. When this happens, it is hard to expect people to read the entire thing, only to get to the last page and find that the method has now changed. I am sure a lot of them give up and just ask in a new thread.
Just my $.02
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I couldn't agree more. Maybe more Forum Titles would help instead of just development? We could start one call How To's. I would click there first in a heart beat and then find the thread about how to do things.
gospeed.racer said:
One of the problems I have faced on here is that there are WAY too many threads that keep going and going, till they are 100 pages or better. When this happens, it is hard to expect people to read the entire thing, only to get to the last page and find that the method has now changed. I am sure a lot of them give up and just ask in a new thread.
One thing that I think would definitely help the clutter is if the stickied posts are very clearly and plainly worded- almost to the point of "dumbing it down", so the newbies can understand it.
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This is most certainly the case. I spent a lot of time writing and rewriting my SPL and HTC_CIME sticky posts so the first post would be as structured and easy to understand as possible.
That said, some people are also just lazy, don't know/care about stickies, or just don't have reading skills. Also, this is a hacking community. Information and developments move quickly. The sticky posts often become irrelevant or contain obsolete information pretty quickly. You have to just trust that the owner of the sticky will keep it maintained... but that's not always the case.
The basic problem here is do you promote inclusiveness or would you rather have a small pool of high quality members? If it were up to me, any time someone starts a new thread to ask "how i root" or "my a2sd broken HALP" it would be instaban.
setzer715 said:
I couldn't agree more. Maybe more Forum Titles would help instead of just development? We could start one call How To's. I would click there first in a heart beat and then find the thread about how to do things.
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in my experience, more subforums at this stage of the game almost always causes more headaches for mods than they assuage
re: your previous post -- i really feel you on the forum etiquette point, but it's hard to use that rationale to justify "PLEASE HELP - URGENT!!1" threads in the development forum, imo.
I am not a fan of wiki's, but a sub-forum for a Wiki style "how to" sounds to me like a great idea. It would be up to the OP's to keep them "fresh" though. Give all the developers a place to put their stuff, and keep questions out of it. Just recent, fresh methods and software, and easy to follow instructions. I wish I had something to contribute, as I really think this idea may help.
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I am not a fan of wiki's, but a sub-forum for a Wiki style "how to" sounds to me like a great idea.
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xda has a wiki actually. No one uses it though. Also, you'd be a fool to think that just because there is a well maintained wiki that newbies won't keep posting their spam anyway.
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xda has a wiki actually. No one uses it though. Also, you'd be a fool to think that just because there is a well maintained wiki that newbies won't keep posting their spam anyway.
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I don't think we were actually saying another wiki. By the way you'd be amazed at how many people don't know what wiki is. Anyways, I think we're talking about a specific "How To" section that cant be posted on or responses on. It will have have How To's for Root, A2SD and whatever should go there.
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in my experience, more subforums at this stage of the game almost always causes more headaches for mods than they assuage
re: your previous post -- i really feel you on the forum etiquette point, but it's hard to use that rationale to justify "PLEASE HELP - URGENT!!1" threads in the development forum, imo.
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I agree, it would take more moderation. Someone to step and and handle it and I'm pretty sure the guy that started this thread was already asking for that. I'm just trying to off my opinion on what that new mod or mod's could moderate.
I'm really not trying to rationale the posts, I'm simply trying to provide a different point of view. As I've stated before, anytime there is an open forum for anyone to join there will ALWAYS be those posts. We could make it exclusive, where even I couldn't be part, but what would the point of that be? I thought the point was for people to share information and knowledge? Either way, lets let the dev's and mod's figure out what to do. I just hope I get to stick around.
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I don't think we were actually saying another wiki. By the way you'd be amazed at how many people don't know what wiki is. Anyways, I think we're talking about a specific "How To" section that cant be posted on or responses on. It will have have How To's for Root, A2SD and whatever should go there.
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A stickied thread that indexes the [HOW TO] threads works pretty well for this purpose w/o as much overhead
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I just hope I get to stick around.
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i wouldn't worry. I don't think anyone (in their right mind, that is) wants to make this board exclusive to the point that potentially meritorious members can't contribute or get valid questions answered.
after all...most noobs eventually grow out of it if they stick around long enough
I agree with many points,
Our forum is cluttered
We need more mods
I want a subforum for questions and answers that I can move all threads that are asking questions to.
Currently it is hard to know what to sticky and what not to sticky when we have a lot of topics in one forum. (how to root, each custom rom, how to get tethering working, how to register, etc)
neoobs said:
I agree with many points,
Our forum is cluttered
We need more mods
I want a subforum for questions and answers that I can move all threads that are asking questions to.
Currently it is hard to know what to sticky and what not to sticky when we have a lot of topics in one forum. (how to root, each custom rom, how to get tethering working, how to register, etc)
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I believe we should have a troubleshooting subsection, which would automatically filter out all the "I have a brick" type threads from the development forum.
neoobs said:
I agree with many points,
Our forum is cluttered
We need more mods
I want a subforum for questions and answers that I can move all threads that are asking questions to.
Currently it is hard to know what to sticky and what not to sticky when we have a lot of topics in one forum. (how to root, each custom rom, how to get tethering working, how to register, etc)
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This was kinda my point. Development should be just that. Direct people looking for how to's or question's to different forums. Instead of just an extra How To, how about a Q n A one also? Then the development forum wont be cluttered and can just be for developers when they are working on stuff.
First of all, (before someone decides to jump the gun and start with the flaming) I'd like to note that even though this is my first post, I have been visiting these forums for quite some time. I am not new here and the first time I visited was long-long-long before I actually registered.
I love XDA. It is the go-to source for all my phone modifying needs. XDA is the very best there is hands down!
My biggest gripe with XDA is that there are too many people posting in threads with posts that are unhelpful, off topic, intended to flame the user that posted the OP, and sometimes just a complete waste of a read.
I think (and this is just my opinion) that these forums would improve significantly if the moderators would delete all posts that are unhelpful toward the OP. We need our moderators to do more moderating and maybe even recruiting more moderators to get the job done if it is too much for the current moderating crew to handle.
As most of you XDA veterans know, we get a lot of people that drop in and ask questions that have been asked and answered again and again and again. I feel that the reason why new people don't bother to read, is because 9 times out of ten there will be a long list of posts following a question and it becomes a real chore for the newbies to go through reading every single important and insignificant post in between, they get frustrated, give up, and start a new thread with a question that has already been asked a zillion times.
Anyone agree?
i totally agree with you. the two things that get annoying (at least for me): people asking the same question and people posting something unhelpful (like i saw one person asking for a link and some other guy was like "find it yourself, its not that hard")
but things are going to change:
http://www.xda-developers.com/annou...-not-an-official-statement-but-a-perspective/
It's an Internet forum. Unless we start charging admission to users, it will not change. It's just the nature of the beast.
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I feel that the reason why new people don't bother to read, is because 9 times out of ten there will be a long list of posts following a question and it becomes a real chore for the newbies to go through reading every single important and insignificant post in between, they get frustrated, give up, and start a new thread with a question that has already been asked a zillion times.
Anyone agree?
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Welcome to the <s>wasteland</s> internet. mods have a hard jobs and do it for free.
The best solution imho is a voting system like yahoo answers but I have never seen it done before lol
Trust me d-..-b im from the webs
Would you go to a car forum and ask someone how to go about changing your oil? Or how you can change a light? I get that new people will show up, and we've all been there, but some effort should be put forth.
I rarely bother answering questions that are discussed entirely too often, and sometimes (for kicks) I will Google someones query in the closest manner that they happened to ask it and I am shocked at what I find. I dunno what is worse; a way too frequently discussed topic being asked about or the 'I tried searching but XDA search sucks / is down.' Shocking to think XDA and Google search were so tightly integrated.
I get that people are going to be new. It's fun, in that sense, to know that so many people are just getting into it. But you should be capable of poking around before diving in.
I won't deny that I've inquired about something that I found out about AFTER asking. Asked a question and then followed it up with a Google search. Rookie move. Sure. But 9 /10 times that doesn't happen. If that many questions actually need to get asked.
As far as improving the forums ... as Android grows you will only get more and more users. More and more questions. Hopefully telling one person to search will be seen by 5 newcomers and influence them to do the same. I always tell people to Google search first anyways as forum search tools tend to just be so up in the air as they are. Not XDA specific, but naturally.
Sometimes I'm also just reading through a few threads and don't have the time to bother. Even for a legitimate reply or unhelpful post. It all depends. The threads will continue. Questions will flow. Patience will be lost. The Forum's greatly improved? I think not.
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I'm been member of many forums and its same everywhere. All mods can do is do a best job as they can do to keep forums reasonable.
The best solution imho is a voting system like yahoo answers but I have never seen it done before lol
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An excellent idea, and I have seen it done before. There is a voting system in place at the Adobe forums. It is a very convenient and effective mechanism for users to quickly find the right information they need. Having something of that capacity here would be pure elite!
Why is it that people that have been part of the community for a while are such dicks? I don't understand why people are so inconsiderate when someone new asks a question. I understand there is a Q/A section and that people should read but when someone asks a "nebbish" question is a thread that it is OBVIOUSLY pertaining to people jump right on top of them and say stuff like "read it dumbass" or "google it". In the time that it takes to make such an a$$whole remark you could be a nice individual and help the person out. I understand it probably gets frustrating when people ask the same questions over and over but grow up. If your going to be part of a "hacking" community new people are going to come into the game and ask the tried and true questions. I for one asked plenty of question when I first started modding my phones and came across plenty of jerkoffs with snide remarks. It's very frustrating when you're getting used to a new system and have to spends hours and hours reading to try and find 1 answer to a simple question instead of being able to just ask. This is a community which by definition is a group of people living together in one place, esp. one practicing common ownership, and we should act like it. Help your fellow modders don't curb stomp their new excitement of having a new nifty phone.
I do agree that people are much, MUCH harsher on people than they should be, but I also believe that there is an etiquette for posting. In my book, if someone labels a thread as [Q] in general, no big deal. I don't give a crap what section it's in, just so it has some kind of order to it. Threads titled DEEZ NUTZ MAH PHONE IZ BROKE usually are begging to be flamed.
And on that note, I will simply say this:
treat others politely, and they will do the same. Unless they are doushecanoes. In which case you probably wouldn't want their advice anyway.
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I'll offer my 2 cents on this topic. What I'd like to know is what are the repercussions of having numerous thrends of the same or similar topic, will the forum lag, will our cool phones spontaneously combust right before our very eyes, ill say non of the above. So who really gives a [email protected]$ if we have repeat topics...instead of replying "Google it or use the search option" (which sucks by the way) all you have to do is NOTHING, just use the back button on your phone and release yourself from the topic.
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It isn't just forum etiquette. In a forum as large and widely used as XDA, not following the rules severely inhibits the functionality of the site. Creating a new thread on an existing topic doesn't just create a duplicate search result; it splinters the conversation, making it harder for those very newbies - or even more advanced users - find the information they need. XDA Developers is a resource not just for new users who want to know how the change the background on their phone, but for advanced developers and everyone in between.
If I have an issue with a specific application, and I search for that application, but there are 20, 50, or 100+ threads, the amount of information I have to wade through to find the answers I'm looking for increases almost exponentially, since the same questions will undoubtedly be repeated in each and every thread. On top of that, the likelihood that a user (new or otherwise) will miss the one nugget they are looking for increases even more significantly.
Some of the harshness is indeed childish, but XDA isn't your personal butler or tech support for your new device. It is an online forum that needs people to follow the rules to continue to be as useful as we have all known it to be. Otherwise, it's usefulness will degrade to the point of uselessness, and those flamers don't want to see that happen.
I can't figure it out myself.
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I think the only reason why a lot of people are like that is because most of this stuff can be learned without asking any questions at all. Of course, there will be times when someone has a weird question and it has to be asked but if everyone would just review the rules and follow them there wouldn't be any problems.
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I think the only reason why a lot of people are like that is because most of this stuff can be learned without asking any questions at all. Of course, there will be times when someone has a weird question and it has to be asked but if everyone would just review the rules and follow them there wouldn't be any problems.
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I agree, I had my phone running Infused GB before I ever even posted on the forum. I simply researched my questions and made sure I knew exactly how to do what I wanted to before I changed anything on my phone. Some people are just lazy...95% percent of the time, the question has been answered.
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Why is it that people that have been part of the community for a while are such dicks? I don't understand why people are so inconsiderate when someone new asks a question. I understand there is a Q/A section and that people should read but when someone asks a "nebbish" question is a thread that it is OBVIOUSLY pertaining to people jump right on top of them and say stuff like "read it dumbass" or "google it". In the time that it takes to make such an a$$whole remark you could be a nice individual and help the person out. I understand it probably gets frustrating when people ask the same questions over and over but grow up. If your going to be part of a "hacking" community new people are going to come into the game and ask the tried and true questions. I for one asked plenty of question when I first started modding my phones and came across plenty of jerkoffs with snide remarks. It's very frustrating when you're getting used to a new system and have to spends hours and hours reading to try and find 1 answer to a simple question instead of being able to just ask. This is a community which by definition is a group of people living together in one place, esp. one practicing common ownership, and we should act like it. Help your fellow modders don't curb stomp their new excitement of having a new nifty phone.
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I believe the scientific term is called NERD RAGE. But while it is excessive, it's to prove a point. An organized forum is a happy forum.
Yeah but organization and common courtesy can coexist. Help each other instead of cutting each down. I understand the forum becomes a cluster fack when people post a crap load of stuff about the same topic
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Is there a way to adjust the search function to search the infuse forum rather than the entire forum (all devices) because that's the problem, I for one have tried countless times to search for something that I've read when the thrend was new but the search gives me topics from every device, and most of the time the search doesnt even locate what I'm looking for. So either look thru 100's of pages while guessing if the thrend was made in general or Q&A or post a new topic. I feel advanced search options would greatly reduce the repeat topic issue.
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It isn't just forum etiquette. In a forum as large and widely used as XDA, not following the rules severely inhibits the functionality of the site. Creating a new thread on an existing topic doesn't just create a duplicate search result; it splinters the conversation, making it harder for those very newbies - or even more advanced users - find the information they need. XDA Developers is a resource not just for new users who want to know how the change the background on their phone, but for advanced developers and everyone in between.
If I have an issue with a specific application, and I search for that application, but there are 20, 50, or 100+ threads, the amount of information I have to wade through to find the answers I'm looking for increases almost exponentially, since the same questions will undoubtedly be repeated in each and every thread. On top of that, the likelihood that a user (new or otherwise) will miss the one nugget they are looking for increases even more significantly.
Some of the harshness is indeed childish, but XDA isn't your personal butler or tech support for your new device. It is an online forum that needs people to follow the rules to continue to be as useful as we have all known it to be. Otherwise, it's usefulness will degrade to the point of uselessness, and those flamers don't want to see that happen.
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Have you seen how many posts are in some of these threads. We have threads in here that have over 1000 posts in them with prob 20% tell people to read the whole tread. I might be easier on the folks if the devs would start a new thread with a new version of their ROM or Kernel. I know most of the Dev in the captivate forum used to do that when I was on a cappy.
Just my two cents.
Erik
nash2000 said:
Is there a way to adjust the search function to search the infuse forum rather than the entire forum
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YES!!! Near the top of a sub fourm, such as the infuse section, there is a SEARCH THIS FOURM link. You can even, from there, do an advanced search and really customize/narrow down your search results! Also within a thread at the top there is a SEARCH THIS THREAD link, which helps in those 100+ page threads.
As to why people jump all over "stupid" questions... IDk possibly mother issues???
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treat others politely, and they will do the same. Unless they are doushecanoes.
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This pretty much summed up the thread for me.
Tomdg07 said:
YES!!! Near the top of a sub fourm, such as the infuse section, there is a SEARCH THIS FOURM link. You can even, from there, do an advanced search and really customize/narrow down your search results! Also within a thread at the top there is a SEARCH THIS THREAD link, which helps in those 100+ page threads.
As to why people jump all over "stupid" questions... IDk possibly mother issues???
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Those must be for the PC, the app search doesn't offer those features, unless I'm blind.
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nash2000 said:
Those must be for the PC, the app search doesn't offer those features, unless I'm blind.
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Yup, desktop site, app search blows....
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Thread closed.
Its off topic
I am running CleanRom. This issue also happened when I was running Venom XL. Whenever I turn the screen off or the timer turns it off I lose both data and cell service. If it has only been a few minutes it turns back on. If it is a longer time I have to restart phone.
Any suggestions?
A suggestion? One word: search. This is probably the millionth time this has been discussed, in the ROM threads, and in the q&a section you're posting in. So clearly you haven't bothered to search/read.
Forum Rules
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting or creating a new thread. Whether you have a question or just something new to share, it's very likely that someone has already asked that question or shared that news
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Use the search feature in any Sense 5 ROM thread and you'll find the answer you're looking for. And search before posting in future.
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I have searched... Did you really take the time to be a jerk and not help someone out? Amazing... I will look elsewhere.
You didn't search properly then, this is the single most discussed issue in our forum by far. Do I really need to search for you to show even a fraction of the posts that discuss the solution? Like I said, it's been discussed extensively in every Sense 5 ROM thread. Plus there are numerous threads dedicated to this subject in this q&a section.
PS. Calling someone a jerk would be classed as abusive and/or flaming, both things that are also against the rules. I'm not a jerk for pointing out that you didn't search well enough to find the most talked about topic in our forum.
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@Jklsr55 there's a guy who asked almost the same question in this section a couple posts down. If you searched, you wouldn't have been called out man.
At the same time, I'll tell you the solution to fixing it, which is in every single sense 5 rom thread: Update to 2.15 firmware.
Don't make a new thread or ask how to. I'm telling you what to do to fix it, so that you can search and find the steps yourself
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Well, again, I did search. But I searched from the main page. In was not aware you could search different sub categories. Kick me off, do what you like. But do not tell me what or what not to do.
Nobody wants to kick you off, all we want is for users to adhere to the rules so the forum is a better place for everybody. We certainly can tell you what to do though, when telling you what to do is to abide by the rules that you agreed to when signing up for this site. Hopefully a lesson has been learned today. I apologise for the level of frustration in my post earlier, but I'll certainly be one of the first people to offer you assistance if you have problems in future. Please just read XDA rules and abide by them.
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The OP needs to settle down with the immature attitude. I have asked a lot of silly questions myself and have gotten plenty of help in this forum.
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But do not tell me what or what not to do.
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timmaaa isn't "telling you" to do anything, aside from following the forum rules. Trust me, there isn't a question that you can come up with, that hasn't already been asked and answered here multiple times. Its not the intent to be rude, but the forum would quickly be flooded with the same questions being asked over and over, rendering the forum close to useless.
You also could have tried reading the Frequently Asked Questions thread (sticky at the top of this section), that timmaaa takes the time to maintain (see Question 26):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2136172