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Why has the ''is this necessary'' thread been deleted ? and the other one locked ?
There was more people against this opening of a sub-forum than there was for it.
Please listen to us and remove this tmobile section, It isnt needed, and deleting the threads that wanted this section gone is way out of order.. We didnt break any rules..
This is our section, our phone, We dont need nor want this silly tmobile section.. So please remove it !!
If you think im wrong............Im not, Allow me to open a poll as to whether we should keep it or not ??
c'mon mods be fair ??!!??!!
It got removed because it would just start issues with other members of the forum for people who want it or not same thing with this thread.
This is the wrong section your posting in anyway.
What's so hard about looking in other section and looking in T-Mobile section.
The administrators on the site said they want it as a local moderator just spoke to them about it, Majority want it anyway.
well the poll says different... At least leave this thread for a few days and get some statistics before making a decision.
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To be fair i agree with azzle here,bit stupid to have some extra thread for tmobile..end of the day this can all be kept in the android dev section. This is daft.
suprised the mod agreed to this anyway,unless he was pm'ed by everyone asking for it,now if thats the case..then fair enough
OK people, i have re-named this thread and moved it to its proper section. I will allow this to continue, unless it turns into a flame war. We all have opinions, i ask you to respect others.
The extra dev section was asked for, and the admin gave it. Its unlikely its going to be removed, so we will have to live with it.
cheers man ! If its what the people want.. Keep it.. I just think its gunna cause so much confusion when development really gets going.. That things would have been better left how they were..
Im all up for the Q&A Section... If there happens to be differences between Tmobile and International version, I will add it to my threads FAQ section...
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What's so hard about looking in other section and looking in T-Mobile section.
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Whats so hard of not having that section and making double download links (as rom makers will make 2 different versions anyway).
Let the vote stay here for atleast 2 days, then you can see some "results"
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It got removed because it would just start issues with other members of the forum for people who want it or not same thing with this thread.
This is the wrong section your posting in anyway.
What's so hard about looking in other section and looking in T-Mobile section.
The administrators on the site said they want it as a local moderator just spoke to them about it, Majority want it anyway.
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The point is, we have so little development as it is, that splitting the forum into two makes it look like we have even less development, and that could deter people away from the phone and thus more development. Both phones can use both roms so there is no point. If there are small issues such as wifi, we can have stickies.
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The point is, we have so little development as it is, that splitting the forum into two makes it look like we have even less development, and that could deter people away from the phone and thus more development. Both phones can use both roms so there is no point. If there are small issues such as wifi, we can have stickies.
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True I'm not going to argue with that cause ur right.
but It's not hard looking in both sections.
If there are incompatible features between t-mo-us and the international One S, keep them both, if not, merge them. Or at least rename it t-mo US, as t-mo has presence in other countries as well.
The second tmous thread is not needed, if the dev of the rom would simply add to there title.
[rom][sense 4.0] [tmous/EU] [NAME OF YOUR ROM][ANYTHING EXTRA AOSP/STOCK] [Updated XX/XX/XXXX]
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True I'm not going to argue with that cause ur right.
but It's not hard looking in both sections.
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I'm not saying it is, and I usually ventured to the Verizon side when I had a GSM Galaxy Nexus I just don't want development on this device stunted.
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I am going to request another subforum for my own gsm operator. Or maybe even forum for my own mobile :what:
Seriously, this is ridiculous.
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Agreed josh. I was told by senior mods that they did it because "it's what users wanted". Well, that's kind of interesting, because we're NOT wanting it, and we're those users. The initial confusion came on launch day, and that was because nobody was familiar with whether the devices differed. Guides simply need to be updated to reflect compatibility. Now, instead, we've got 2 forums, and in an attempt to alleviate the confusion, they have only caused further confusion, because now it REALLY looks like the devices are different when they are in fact NOT.
When a dev gets into modding, one of the obvious questions is "How many different devices do I have to work with here?". Based off our forum layout, it looks like we've got 2 different devices. This could lead developers to believe that there's more work to be done than necessary to achieve compatibility with both.
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I am on the fence with this one.
While I agree that if a rom developed for EU works - for the majority - and only does not function on a scale that reaches very select users, then the dual dev section is not needed.
However, in that same logic, if a rom developed that is incompatible with the counterpart phones due to whatever reason, and something happens while it was not labeled as EU/US or TMOUS or whatever tag a dev would use, then that would start a stir in the forum, IMO, deterring users from moving to this phone and potentially hurting development.
While i agree that it should be SOP to label the rom as EU or US, at the very least posting inside the thread if its for EU or US in the download links. Having a split forum this early in the development phase could hurt the growth of the phone's custom roms.
This being my second android phone, I myself am considering taking a shot at developing a custom TMOUS minimalist rom. (running as little as possible and having the bare necessities required to run the phone) Thinking of a battery saver galore build, completely Sense Free.
I came from the Nexus S, and the dev forum was split into 2 forums - 1 for the GSM Nexus S, and 1 for the CDMA Sprint Nexus S 4G.
I was a i9020T GSM model. In the very same forum, mods and devs posted ROMs for i9020T, i9020A (att), and i9023 (SLCD model , mostly overseas). Not once was there ever a problem. I just think it's kind of silly that we're being told "it's what users want", and yet we clearly don't want it, atleast the majority don't. I was told it was to help with new users, but here's the thing....this isnt newbforums.com or something. This is XDA DEVELOPERS. Enthusiasts and the tech crowd come here. I'm not saying new users don't, because we see them every day, but they've got their own issue with getting up-to-speed, and I fail to see how fragmenting the community into 2 dev forums helps alleviate the issue. Newbs will be newbs. They just have to read stuff....
Is it possible that I can agree with everyone? Probably a result of my incessant blind optimism.
Clearly, there is a divide here. Some people want the separate forum, others don't. Both arguments seem to stem from the same desire... to maximize development for their specific phones. I emphasize like crazy with you.
People that don't want the split fear that this will slow development by dividing troops and possibly give the appearance of a lesser interest from the dev community. However, having two sides essentially working on the "same" device may even prove beneficial in the end.
People that do want it are likely "we" Americans who always fear upon a devices release that there will be some minor radio variance that will cause our new, $600 baby to turn paperweight. Having a T-Mo(US) thread gives someone like me, with a lesser experience in the dev world, more confidence to take the leap into modding a device. I'm more likely to set up a dev environment, root my phone, and become more active in the community. The more people willing to get their feet wet should help everyone, regardless of continent, in the end.
Lastly, the apparent lack of interest may instead be a lack of knowledge. What other snapdragon S4 Krait phones have been released? AFAIK, there hasn't been a single device dropped with this chip, so development will be decidedly difficult until HTC makes available their GPL code. They probably aren't terribly eager to give other phone manufacturers the fruits of their labor, and money, by aiding them prep the S4 phones/tablets that will inevitably follow.
I am incredibly eager to sink my teeth into the underbelly of the one S. I can accept that for the time being, customization may likely be limited to sense-based mods, as I for one am certainly unwilling to part with what is one of the most impressive cameras ever released on a phone. But I do incredibly miss my notification pull down power switches.
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Is it possible that I can agree with everyone? Probably a result of my incessant blind optimism.
Clearly, there is a divide here. Some people want the separate forum, others don't. Both arguments seem to stem from the same desire... to maximize development for their specific phones. I emphasize like crazy with you.
People that don't want the split fear that this will slow development by dividing troops and possibly give the appearance of a lesser interest from the dev community. However, having two sides essentially working on the "same" device may even prove beneficial in the end.
People that do want it are likely "we" Americans who always fear upon a devices release that there will be some minor radio variance that will cause our new, $600 baby to turn paperweight. Having a T-Mo(US) thread gives someone like me, with a lesser experience in the dev world, more confidence to take the leap into modding a device. I'm more likely to set up a dev environment, root my phone, and become more active in the community. The more people willing to get their feet wet should help everyone, regardless of continent, in the end.
Lastly, the apparent lack of interest may instead be a lack of knowledge. What other snapdragon S4 Krait phones have been released? AFAIK, there hasn't been a single device dropped with this chip, so development will be decidedly difficult until HTC makes available their GPL code. They probably aren't terribly eager to give other phone manufacturers the fruits of their labor, and money, by aiding them prep the S4 phones/tablets that will inevitably follow.
I am incredibly eager to sink my teeth into the underbelly of the one S. I can accept that for the time being, customization may likely be limited to sense-based mods, as I for one am certainly unwilling to part with what is one of the most impressive cameras ever released on a phone. But I do incredibly miss my notification pull down power switches.
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I respect your opinion. Please email HTCdev and express your displeasure at their daily willful GPL violations. That code lawfully belongs in the hands of the open source community.
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See, what we're trying to get at is that there isn't any "flash this version or that version", because there's only 1 version: the HTC One S. Unless you're flashing radios, and custom ROMs should typically NEVER have custom radios unless clearly indicated, then it doesn't matter.
And the Galaxy S was divided into subforums because the actual hardware cofigurations, button layouts, chips, etc, varied quite a bit from model to model, whether it was the international SGS, the T-Mo Vibrant, The Verizon Continuum (vastly different), or the ATT version.
The One S is a single phone, with 2 slightly different radio versions. Other than that radio, they are absolutely identical.
So as you may have been aware or not, the S3 is now out for MetroPCS. How long will it take for CM10 to be ported over to it? Plus, it would be nice to have a section or subforum for the MetroPCS version on here.
Thanks.
Good luck
For the simple fact its on metro just proves alot
dont expect much development if any at all because most devs dont use metro and probably wont fool with it
sad i know ive been posting threads about getting development going
no responses!
People just hate metro even tho this is a good phone same specs as other carrier gs3 models
i just dont see it happening any time soon
there is a root method i used
The only issue with Metro is that not many developers use it so they don't develope for it. Had you searched you would have seen and posted in the other threads about it instead of opening a new one.
If you want something done. Then as you use said device then dig in and learn to do it yourself.
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Excuse me if this post is out of place, but I have always owned phones that got lots of attention with cooked Roms. But my Motorola Photon Q 4G just sits around with this Android 4.0 and no upgrade in sight. It's definitely soured me against Motorola and doubt I'll get another. I even jumped through Motorola's hoops to give up any warranty so I could root. But the hoops I think have greatly reduced any interest in experimenting. Again, sorry if this is out of place, but I'm tired of dropping in here and still seeing nothing. Please, please, please, if you have the expertise, give us Motorola Photon Q owners some hope.
Oy.
You should probably scope a device out and see how active the development community is. I don't see why Motorola is responsible for a lack of developer community...
At any rate, you have CM10, an official JB soak with an official JB update on the way. I helped port TWRP, made a custom kernel and did my best to keep it updated with the Moto updates.
As always, the open source arena is just that - an open one. People are doing it in their free time, so either you can help out or wait for others to produce something. But posts/threads like this don't exactly inspire development. At least I am thoroughly uninspired by your post.
See, the small development community for this phone is what inspired me to start working on CM10 myself. If you're frustrated with the pace of development, then please help. We would all of us appreciate it.
Sent from my Photon Q
Thanks.
arrrghhh said:
Oy.
You should probably scope a device out and see how active the development community is. I don't see why Motorola is responsible for a lack of developer community...
At any rate, you have CM10, an official JB soak with an official JB update on the way. I helped port TWRP, made a custom kernel and did my best to keep it updated with the Moto updates.
As always, the open source arena is just that - an open one. People are doing it in their free time, so either you can help out or wait for others to produce something. But posts/threads like this don't exactly inspire development. At least I am thoroughly uninspired by your post.
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For what it's worth, Sprint/Motorola began rolling JB update today - OTA.
I wouldn't even know where to begin.
solitarywarrior1 said:
See, the small development community for this phone is what inspired me to start working on CM10 myself. If you're frustrated with the pace of development, then please help. We would all of us appreciate it.
Sent from my Photon Q
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discipler said:
I wouldn't even know where to begin.
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Well, you started by posting this thread in Android Development
Edit - thank you mods
SORRY FOR GOING OFF TOPIC
Heres my little rant, First I would like to thank the devs for some superb roms, and the admin for doing such a great job too...
But I bet you, im not the only one who feels this way.....
Once upon a time we were all new here, and we all of us have leaarnt a lot, and even built applications and roms....
But, there are people who dont listen, read, and just want to be spoonfed everything.......
Also there are others who EXPECT the latest things, the roms with the latest firmware, the latest version of the OS and dont understand the words ALPHA and BETA.....
The development forum, is just that, its for developers to post roms and kernals, and as most of the items are not 100% stable, some have bugs, but NO, users expect and demand it works out of the box, and expect every answer to be answered asap, WHEN the answers are more than likely in the Q and A forum.....
But my big bug bear, is that people mess with the roms, and then moan why doesnt this or that work....or can you add this or that....well, the idea of this site is for you to gather information and try yourselves.....if it works....YAY.....if not, either reflash and re do it again....
So if something goes wrong, your screen goes green, or a monster comes out of your earpiece, there is always a answer!
That's the reason, why those Q&A Threads are created by the Mods. They meant to keep the Development Threads clean.
I'm also tiered of Questions like, which GApps to flash, Kernel settings, etc. over and over again. So now people that are new to this stuff have and platform to discuss, help each other > Let's hope they use it and we can inform us about the Development stuff in Rom Threads without those annoying posts.
BTW: Interesting is this Guy who seems to have an problem with Clean, Rom related Development Threads.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56112371
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In my experience a lot of people mistake this forum for a help desk.
They think we're all here to hold their hands through everything, and show them exactly what where when and how again and again, every step of the way. We're all happy to help, but none of us are willing to have to deal with constant problems caused by people who refuse to read the bloody description.
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BTW: Interesting is this Guy who seems to have an problem with Clean, Rom related Development Threads.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56112371
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Some people apparently prefer utter chaos to clean order. Usually the ones who don't have to manage the mess. I would not want to be tasked with locating anything on that bloke's computer....
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In my experience a lot of people mistake this forum for a help desk.
They think we're all here to hold their hands through everything, and show them exactly what where when and how again and again, every step of the way. We're all happy to help, but none of us are willing to have to deal with constant problems caused by people who refuse to read the bloody description.
Some people apparently prefer utter chaos to clean order. Usually the ones who don't have to manage the mess. I would not want to be tasked with locating anything on that bloke's computer....
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"That bloke's computer" is just fine and dandy, thanks - very tidy indeed. Nearly every medic I know is digitally very well organised , we couldn't do our jobs if we weren't. I have 5 TB of work-related data accumulated over a 26 year career. Or, to put it another way, don't make lazy assumptions about people you know nothing about.
Got a job yet?
Hi everybody...I just moved on to this device and even if I've read this section for awhile and knew there's not much development I still have hope.
So, I've discussed with some people I know and there is at least the will to try to develop something. @javelinanddart made some nice kernels for my old device and he wants to make a CM ROM for S6 Edge. I know there were other attempts and I know they failed (at least here I couldn't find anything else).
He needs testers...and when I say tester I mean no newbies or users that just want to be cool..real, good testers. Someone who's able to flash and test kernels and ROMs, someone who has some medium to advanced knowledge and of course knows how to flash, take logcats and things like that. So don't jump in if you think you're not qualified. Devs are more than welcome to join this if they want to.
We would like to start a specific Hangouts chat for that to be easier to communicate, there will be NO public releases untill at least a bootable build is made. As with any other development, there is a small risk of bricking the device if something goes wrong but that's a risk we all know and accepted when we start flashing. So once again, THIS IS NOT FOR NEWBIES, please don't even think about asking to be a tester if that's the case.
If there is anyone interested, please let me know by posting here and send your Hangouts contact via PM (I don't want to have a public disclosure of personal info)
Also if there is detailed info about development for this device like kernel sources, device trees, vendor files and so on, please post the GITHUB links, it'll help the development.
Thank you...
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Hi everybody...I just moved on to this device and even if I've read this section for awhile and knew there's not much development I still have hope.
So, I've discussed with some people I know and there is at least the will to try to develop something. @javelinanddart made some nice kernels for my old device and he wants to make a CM ROM for S6 Edge. I know there were other attempts and I know they failed (at least here I couldn't find anything else).
He needs testers...and when I say tester I mean no newbies or users that just want to be cool..real, good testers. Someone who's able to flash and test kernels and ROMs, someone who has some medium to advanced knowledge and of course knows how to flash, take logcats and things like that. So don't jump in if you think you're not qualified. Devs are more than welcome to join this if they want to.
We would like to start a specific Hangouts chat for that to be easier to communicate, there will be NO public releases untill at least a bootable build is made. As with any other development, there is a small risk of bricking the device if something goes wrong but that's a risk we all know and accepted when we start flashing. So once again, THIS IS NOT FOR NEWBIES, please don't even think about asking to be a tester if that's the case.
If there is anyone interested, please let me know by posting here and send your Hangouts contact via PM (I don't want to have a public disclosure of personal info)
Also if there is detailed info about development for this device like kernel sources, device trees, vendor files and so on, please post the GITHUB links, it'll help the development.
Thank you...
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Thanks for posting this. The kernel will probably be stock kernel with a few patches, i'll be releasing source for that immediately, however, the trees will be closed till we can get a booting build, once it boots, and maybe fix a few issues, I'll leave it there because I don't own the device (however clicking the donate buttons a few hundred times if you like the project might resolve that ) Screenshots can be posted here, and updates on what works or if it boots or not can be posted here, but most of the discussion will be in the google hangouts chat.
I'm looking mostly at @BMc08GT's stuff right now, and mythos.... something I can't remember.
Check this guys http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=61785445
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Check this guys http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=61785445
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Yes, we've checked that thread already but he said he's no longer working on S6 and his device start acting bad...so I don't think he will want to be into this, but maybe he can help with what knowledge gained during his tries
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Check this guys http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=61785445
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man..he wrote that allready (..... I know there were other attempts and I know they failed (at least here I couldn't find anything else)................)
so this was unneeded..
good luck at op..
thanks for trying port cm to s6 edge, good luck!!
I'm in for testing. I've been doing this sort of stuff since Android version 0.7 on the HTC Vogue, so I'm no stranger to the type of effort involved. I'll PM you my Hangouts details now.
I am up for testing on s6 edge g925f
Um, if I'm not mistaken both GS6 Flat and Edge have the same hardware so maybe you can make this thread in Flat section? It would get to bigger audience. Also what about funding the device to @javelinanddart? I have seen fundraisers couple of times so maybe we will start one here too?
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Um, if I'm not mistaken both GS6 Flat and Edge have the same hardware so maybe you can make this thread in Flat section? It would get to bigger audience. Also what about funding the device to @javelinanddart? I have seen fundraisers couple of times so maybe we will start one here too?
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I need a T-Mobile S6 Edge then, i personally don't care about getting one, I'm trying to help @Rapier out. I'll do as much as I can but I'm busy AF with school right now, idk if this will get far, or how far it will get
Tester
I am a tester for the g925f
I have a g925p, the Sprint edition. If this will be compatible with my device, I'd love to test. I know my way around a logcat haha
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I recently got my SG6 edge, i love the phone, it's design, the camera, but i damn touchwiz. it makes the phone look so cheap and laggy. so guys go for it - i'd also help you in testing
Edge and Flat version of Galaxy S6 share the same hardware so Flat version users can also participate in tests I suppose?
I know nothing about development but since we have unified kernels and roms that should be possible I think, right?
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Count me in g925f
G925F here, I'd be willing to Test and report any bugs.
How come that you ask for testers while the thread has no pictures or progress ?!!
Do some updates tells what you did or what are you doing at the moment .
G925F , Here.
Any update?
Thank you for your work
I can help by Development and Testing too!
just send me a PM
don't know if you know about this :
https://github.com/Thecrazyskull/device_samsung_zeroltexx