Samsung S7 - Abnormal battery wear - Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers

Hello,
Sometime ago I started to notice battery in my S7 is much weaker than at the beginning. I checked how it works with cleaned system but effect was very similar. Then I installed two apps to check battery wear:
-Samsung Phone INFO: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo
-AccuBattery: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.digibites.accubattery
Effect was very similar: according to Phone INFO battery had around 370 charging cycles and it had 76% of new battery capacity. For me this wear wasn't normal. Battery was replaced under warranty.
Now I monitor battery again. Phone INFO noticed 12 charging cycles (AccuBattery shows 28 cycles because it also notices charging between 40-80%) and wear is similar in both apps: 95% left.
I wonder if you would be able to check battery wear in your S7 mobiles and let me know how it looks in this thread? My warranty expires in 2 months and if there is anything wrong with motherboard rather than battery itself I would try to sort it out.
In app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo there is tab Personal and there are two important for me fileds: "Battery Discharge Cycles" and "Battery Health"
Thank you in advance

My 2-years old S7:
Cycles: 513
Health: 84.7

Results from AccuBattery
Mine, after 2years and 2 months:
2.353mAh average.
I assume that would be 78% health. (2353/3000mAh)
EDIT: Where can I see my charge cycles? I will post them when i find them.

humanalien said:
Mine, after 2years and 2 months:
2.353mAh average.
I assume that would be 78% health. (2353/3000mAh)
EDIT: Where can I see my charge cycles? I will post them when i find them.
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in Phone INFO Samsung app >> PERSONAL tab>> bettery discharge cycles

774 cyclus
61,6%

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Is there a program that tells you the true battery wear level?

I've been looking at apps but none of them tell me the Original charge capacity vs the current wear level (current charge capacity).
Thanks
newklear85 said:
I've been looking at apps but none of them tell me the Original charge capacity vs the current wear level (current charge capacity).
Thanks
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Try "Battery Calibration" from the market. It will clear out your old battery stats and shows you the correct battery charge. Follow these steps:
1. Download and install "Battery Calibration"
2. Charge your phone to 100%
3. Without unplugging, press the "Calibrate" button in the app
4. After calibrating is done, unplug the phone
5. Use the phone till it drains out to 0% and turns off
6. Charge it to 100% without a break
Now your phone should show you the correct battery stats. This app is a must-have if you've flashed a new ROM onto your phone. But you can use it to calibrate your battery whenever you feel that it is not reflecting the correct charge.
Or if you have CWM recovery installed, just boot into recovery and wipe the battery stats when ur battery is at 100% and still plugged in.
People.... he is NOT asking about the calibration nonsense (pure placebo, the apps do not do anything useful). He wants to know the nominal vs. current capacity, i.e. the wear level.
@OP: Sorry, neither do I. Maybe the info is just not accessible by SW.
I just want an app that shows me the % used / hour.
bump! i want this app to show wear and tear? anyone? or should i google it :lol:
Battery charging and wear levelling
newklear85 said:
I've been looking at apps but none of them tell me the Original charge capacity vs the current wear level (current charge capacity).
Thanks
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Actually, it is hard to tell the battery charging and weal levelling. It may vary due to the usage, temperature, environment variables (humidity etc) and the ROM too.
I don't that there is such applications available in market.
Google play only lists the apps which is showing the battery charged/remaining percentage only.
Usually batteries last for around 400-500 charge cycles. A charge cycle is completed when you discharge the phone to 0% and charge it to 100%. If you charge your phone once everyday, your battery will last around a year and a half I.e. 18 months.If you charge your phone twice everyday, the battery will last for around 9 months and so on
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Junior Einstein said:
Usually batteries last for around 400-500 charge cycles. A charge cycle is completed when you discharge the phone to 0% and charge it to 100%. If you charge your phone once everyday, your battery will last around a year and a half I.e. 18 months.If you charge your phone twice everyday, the battery will last for around 9 months and so on
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Not necessary. I charge twice a day and my battery lasted for the last 2 years.
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Everyone email snapdragon devs to have them incorporate battery information on weartear. N cycle counts into that app
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i'm also
i'm also searching for application thats shows battery wear level and charging capacity, but i fined this thread
doctor83 said:
i'm also searching for application thats shows battery wear level and charging capacity, but i fined this thread
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Have u tried snap dragon app?
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Junior Einstein said:
Usually batteries last for around 400-500 charge cycles. A charge cycle is completed when you discharge the phone to 0% and charge it to 100%. If you charge your phone once everyday, your battery will last around a year and a half I.e. 18 months.If you charge your phone twice everyday, the battery will last for around 9 months and so on
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gonna call bull on these numbers - I've had my phone for near 3 years. There's times it gets charged 3 times a day when being used heavily and times it can go 48 hours or longer before it needs to be charged. I have not noted any decrease in the time it holds a charge. I think there are too many factors that can impact battery life to say there is a set number of charging cycles it can handle.
Which means unless you had something installed to measure the battery right from the first charge you aren't going to find an app that can tell you what you want as there is no way for it to go back in time and tell you what the original numbers were.
BUMP
I would also like to know how much wear my battery has.
I had a DROID 3 and I had terrible battery life and when I replaced the battery the phone ran like new, it was great. In that case I was sure the battery was old at that point so now I want to know if I should do the same for my DROID 4 however the process is definitely more involved so I wanted to know if it was possible beforehand to see if it is worth it
Bump!
There is a plethora of such programs for windows, like this one :
http://batterycare.net/en/images.html
we are looking for the same thing for Android
It would be especially useful since some battery will last longer then others...
Some battery will still have 85% of their design capacity after 900 cycles..
Others are at 50% after 300 cycles.. a 3000 mAh battery is now a 1500mAh one...
Depends fron the battery cell origin and quality.. japanese cell are the best
Also very useful to check if the replacement battery you purchased is holding the advertised charge...
Is it even possible to get that info out from a cellular battery?? They are much smaller, perhaps they dont have the required circuitry.
Any news about a battery that would do that (indicate battery wear level) for Android in 2015 ?
I would love to check by battery wear level as well.
I have a Nexus 7 2013 and am wondering if a new battery would be worth it yet.

Anyone using the AccuBattery app?

What battery health does it report for you?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.digibites.accubattery
Had my Pixel 2 since Nov and tend to try and look after the battery with the now popular wisdom of not charging beyond about 80% when I don't need to. AccuBattery already now reporting 87% battery capacity (2362mAh total), even when benchmarking 0-100% charge. I can't recall what it reported when I first used AccuBattery - maybe mid 90's?
So perhaps I have a low capacity battery, or maybe AccuBattery should not be trusted anyway. Most users seem to get good and believable results from it. In use the Pixel's battery life seems reasonable and consistent with what many folk see, but we're only talking about a 13% margin and usage models and thus battery life change much more than that from person to person. It's just a 13% of extra capacity/life between charges that I'd quite like to have!
But how on earth do I prove reduced/poor battery capacity to get a RMA? I can't say "an app on the Play Store claimed XYZ". Phone was purchased from Google. Maybe I have to RMA based on some other fault I can cite that I can prove?!
Any ideas/experience of any of this?
I've had my pixel 1 for about 5 months (I got a warranty replacement because my previous battery would die in half a day), and AccuBattery shows my battery capacity health at 2087 mAH
My original Pixel 2 actually and genuinely stopped charging intermittently and I had no trouble getting it RMA'd. AccuBattery performs the same on the replacement.
I have now found with my Pixel 2 that AccuBattery under-reports capacity almost always whenever the phone is partially charged. It reports higher capacity when the phone is fully charged - the state it gets to beyond a reported 100% and when it actually stops charging. I put this down to a non-linear battery gauge on the phone - probably by design
I've had mine since October, never bothered with anything fussy like stopping charging at 80%, mostly used the supplied (fast) charger overnight (occasionally other chargers/power banks/USB). Today it's saying my capacity is 93%, but yesterday it was 89% and a few days ago it was 85%. The main thing I take from that is that it fluctuates by several % day to day.
Anyway I'd be amazed if they accepted 13% battery wear over 11 months usage as grounds for an RMA.
I asked this exact thing on Reddit and got nowhere. It's got to be some issue with pie and accubattery. All three of my pixel phones suddenly lost 15-25% battery capacity after pie. 2 pixel 2 and one og pixel XL. Right after a factory reset my pixel 2 shows 99% capacity and then slowly drains down after some charge drain cycles . Perviously it was always above 95%

What is the Battery Health % shown in Phone Info(Samsung) app

Hi all! Today I have received my Note 10 and did transfer data from my S10e. All went well as usual. Played with the phone for an hour or so. I then launched Phone Info app and Personal tab showed my phone's battery health at 99.4% and discharge cycle is 0(never charged phone yet). I thought strange... I plugged the phone in as the battery % was at 31. While phone was charging, I kept checking battery health through Phone info app and it went down to 97.5%.
As an example: I have S10e which I owned for 2+ months and battery health is shown as 100% and discharge cycle is 19, which is about right.
Could it be that the phone is new and was never charged to let the battery calibrate itself and system to realize that?
Link to app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo
If this app is correct, I may need to exchange/return device. Can anyone check their Note 10 or maybe Note 10+ for the battery health info?
I tried to factory reset device couple of times, but the battery health is around 98%. Other Samsung phone that I had, showed 100% especially when new.
I think that software is unreliable I think you should just enjoy your phone.
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shook187 said:
I think that software is unreliable I think you should just enjoy your phone.
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I would have to agree, I installed the app last night and it said my battery health was like 40%.
I've had this app for awhile didn't realize the battery health section. Mine is saying 40% as well. I wouldnt worry about it
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My 10+ also shows 40. My SOT is ~9.5hrs. Go figure.
Same as me. I installed phone info and show health 40%
My Note 10+ shows 40.1%, and I do think you need a rooted device to make that app reliable.
A brand new battery often shows 94 - 97% health on a rooted device.
The battery gets better and better after several charge/discharge cycles done the right way, up until a point where it starts to drop from the charging cycles.
If you always let you phone die or go under 20% and then charge to 100% it will degrade faster.
I have tried this on both S8 and S9 with root.

Battery health at 92,7% after 6 weeks - is it normal?

I have a POCO F3 that I've purchased about a month and half ago. I've dialed the code *#*#6485#*#* to check my battery health by diving the current battery capacity for the factory battery capacity and then by multiplying that result by 100 and it was at 92.7%. Is it normal after about 6 weeks of use with the phone?
crazy_penguin said:
I have a POCO F3 that I've purchased about a month and half ago. I've dialed the code *#*#6485#*#* to check my battery health by diving the current battery capacity for the factory battery capacity and then by multiplying that result by 100 and it was at 92.7%. Is it normal after about 6 weeks of use with the phone?
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Check what cpuz reports. To me that doesn't look normal, something is with the battery sensors. Have you installed any custom kernel or anything that might play with "Advanced Charge Control Interface" ?
LAST_krypton said:
Check what cpuz reports. To me that doesn't look normal, something is with the battery sensors. Have you installed any custom kernel or anything that might play with "Advanced Charge Control Interface" ?
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What is cpuz? I haven't installed anything
LAST_krypton said:
Check what cpuz reports. To me that doesn't look normal, something is with the battery sensors. Have you installed any custom kernel or anything that might play with "Advanced Charge Control Interface" ?
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Oh ok. It's an app. I've installed and this is what appears about my battery's info
@crazy_penguin
IMO you can't compute Battery health at your own - at least not the way you did it. And Android OS also can't.
Battery health - also called battery lifespan - simply tells you amount of time your battery can last until it needs to be replaced / fully recharged.
Battery health always is expressed as estimated time - in hours and minutes, not as percent of whatever.
More info here:
Battery Life Calculator: How Long Does A Battery Last? (Ah, V, Hours)
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crazy_penguin said:
I have a POCO F3 that I've purchased about a month and half ago. I've dialed the code *#*#6485#*#* to check my battery health by diving the current battery capacity for the factory battery capacity and then by multiplying that result by 100 and it was at 92.7%. Is it normal after about 6 weeks of use with the phone?
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It's not normal, in that period, it shouldn't decrease a full 2%. Sometimes, a malfunctioning OS may report false calculations.
On my old device, I used two different systems, they showed different calculations of battery health.
One OS showed ~68-67%, the other showed 76.4%. I don't trust calculations anyway.
Mohamedkam000 said:
It's not normal, in that period, it shouldn't decrease a full 2%. Sometimes, a malfunctioning OS may report false calculations.
On my old device, I used two different systems, they showed different calculations of battery health.
One OS showed ~68-67%, the other showed 76.4%. I don't trust calculations anyway.
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Wipe cahce partiton or even do a factroy reset. If you have TWRP check what battery % it shows there.
jwoegerbauer said:
IMO you can't compute Battery health at your own. And Android OS also can't.
Battery health - also called battery lifespan - simply tells you amount of time your battery can last until it needs to be replaced.
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Meh, stop worrying.
An Li useful life is about 200 full charge cycles (0-100%).
Partial midrange charging cycles (40-62%) can yield hundreds even thousands more full charge cycles to the battery's lifespan.
Estimate battery health by SOT and by drain reported overnight.
When your SOT dips much below 80% of it's new capacity, the Li is degraded and at the end of its usable lifespan.
Replace before it fails and damages the phone.
Any battery swelling in a failure.
Cell phone Li's hate high cell voltage, temperatures and high discharge rates.
Keep charge cycles between 40-72% to extend life.
Li's love frequent midrange power cycling.
Avoid discharging below 20% or constantly charging to 100%.
Minimum start charge temp is 72F, 82-92F is best. Low temp charging can cause Li plating.
Never attempt to charge a Li below 40F!!!
If battery temp is exceeding 100F use cooling.
Apps like Accubattery's history logging are useful is seeing actual battery discharge and charging times. Useful is spotting excessive battery drain.
Eventually the battery will need replacement. On a heavily used phone that's 1-2 years.
No big deal... just do it!
Always use a new OEM seal if the phone is watertight.
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Wipe cahce partiton or even do a factroy reset. If you have TWRP check what battery % it shows there.
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Oh don't worry, I never considered this a problem, phone was just fine in everything except at the health calculation.
I'm just showing the OP that maybe it has something to do with the OS.
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Wipe cahce partiton or even do a factroy reset. If you have TWRP check what battery % it shows there.
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how do I wipe cache?
Try discharging until it dies then charge to 100%
Repeat 2 more times to recalibrate the battery % indicator.
Not worth the trouble though...
blackhawk said:
Try discharging until it dies then charge to 100%
Repeat 2 more times to recalibrate the battery % indicator.
Not worth the trouble though...
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so it's not worth doing it? I shouldn't worry about those 93%?
crazy_penguin said:
so it's not worth doing it? I shouldn't worry about those 93%?
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As long it shutdown at 5% and charges to 100% there's nothing that should to be done.
A sudden capacity drop, erratic fast charging indicate a battery failure.
A swollen battery is a failure.
You have none of these symptoms.
it's fine, I agree
I don't think it's typical, what you use it for is dependent? Maybe if intensive video processing and tweaking, playing and watching live?
May Anyone ask how something functions, too? What could I get to learn about the quality and capability of your real battery?

General Unusual battery wear stats post Jun update

Ok - this is a weird one for my S22u SD so I'd appreciate some feedback. I use AccuBattery Pro to monitor my battery and pre-Jun update (AVF1) after every recharge cycle to 85% (protect battery option is enabled) AccuBattery would show estimated capacity between 4861-5015mAh. Except for one recharge cycle, I used the same recharger but estimated capacity was still very consistent after each session. Samsung advertises 4855mAh average actual capacity for the S22u's 5000mAh battery so all is good with my S22u so far.
I updated my S22u on 6/23 and after that the estimated capacity has been between 4394-4536mAh after each recharge! I noticed this immediately and started using a mixture of different rechargers (including Samsung rechargers) and they were all consistently lower. A couple of days ago I turned off the protect battery option and started to recharge to 100%. Still, the estimated capacity after each recharge was consistently ~500mAh lower than before the June update.
There has been no "event" whereas my S22u has overheated charging or not charging or anything else unusual that has happened other than the June uppdate. So why is my battery 500mAh lower in battery capacity (about 10%)?
Still scratching my head, today while recharging my phone I had a notification that my battery was 100% charged and I was only at 88% and still charging!! The notification was from the Android 12 system UI. The phone recharged to 100% successfully. Somethings not right!
I've attached my stats below for the 10 days prior and 10 days after the June update as per my Accubattery Pro. I would appreciate it if you have Accubattery to look into the history tab and check your estimated battery capacity for a few days before and after the June update to compare mine to. You can get to the capacity estimate via the History tab, scroll to a recharging session, touch that session which will take you to the Charging tab and then scroll down to the bottom of that screen.
Not sure if this is an issue with just my phone or it is a general issue.
PS - I have not experienced any loss of SOT to justify the 10% additional battery wear.
Accubattery is cr*p for battery capacity stats, just ignore and uninstall the app and enjoy your phone. If you are paranoid, install Device Info and you may get a better capacity reading. For me it says 4800 typical. All batteries are bound to degrade after over a year or so, but not so soon.

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