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Hey guys,
Judging by how android M was provided to the S6, should we expect the same amount of time till S7 gets N (eg-mid next year) or could we possibly expect android N around or soon after when the Note 7 gets it ?
Please dont troll this thread, not interested in that if you dont like my questions just move along.
Thanks
tixoo said:
Hey guys,
Judging by how android M was provided to the S6, should we expect the same amount of time till S7 gets N (eg-mid next year) or could we possibly expect android N around or soon after when the Note 7 gets it ?
Please dont troll this thread, not interested in that if you dont like my questions just move along.
Thanks
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Samsung said the Note 7 will get Android 7 in 3 months. I think our phonnes should get the official 7.0 fimware in early 2017. Luckily the N7's hardware is almost the same as the S7's hardware. So porting the N7 firmware shouldn't be impossible.
dfunkbv said:
Samsung said the Note 7 will get Android 7 in 3 months. I think our phonnes should get the official 7.0 fimware in early 2017. Luckily the N7's hardware is almost the same as the S7's hardware. So porting the N7 firmware shouldn't be impossible.
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exactly what im hoping for but ... but still dont know if samsung will do it before the s8 :/
US AT&T announced that the s7 is getting the update soon, but without a dateyet.
As you might have noticed, Android 8.0 codename Oreo has been officially released today.
Let's discuss all news, speculations, development, and opinions on Android Oreo, especially for our Galaxy S8 and S8+ devices.
not much to discuss - S8 still on Android 7.0 when even Nokia is on 7.1
Id say - expect it on Galaxy S9 - next year in March
If im wrong - i ll buy you a beer
The S8 does literally everything that's highlighted as a new feature in Oreo
joe3681 said:
The S8 does literally everything that's highlighted as a new feature in Oreo
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I just wish the MMS bug was fixed. 7.0 has the issue, 7.1 doesn't and it's super annoying.
I think that there is a lot to discuss, mostly about design , UI
As every new major os update samsung ui is completely different. Remember Kitkat then lollipop on galaxy s6 , then marshmallow on galaxy s7 and nougat on s6 7 8 is one of the biggest changes. So did you expect or want (or not) ui changes both in system interface and icons , or getting closer to aosp look? I personally love the s8 ui and icons but I think I could be nice to have in apps instead of pure white , a white that is just a little little bit tinted with app accent color, I mean in the dialer app for example, instead of white background, a white that is a little bit tinted with a very light and pastel green . I could bring a little bit of color and uniqueness to all of the apps
tim2london said:
not much to discuss - S8 still on Android 7.0 when even Nokia is on 7.1
Id say - expect it on Galaxy S9 - next year in March
If im wrong - i ll buy you a beer
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Android O has already been confirmed for the s8/s8+.
The reason Samsung hasn't updated to 7.1 is because it's not really needed since the s8/s8+ already does everything 7.1 has to offer.
It's speculated that Android O will be released for the s8/s8+ in January.
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The S8 does literally everything that's highlighted as a new feature in Oreo
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There are tons of changes under the hood and bugfixes to Android you know?
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Wondering if Touchwiz will be updated on the S8 when it gets Oreo. Or would it just be what we have now (8.1) with Oreo underneath. I got the S8 purely for the hardware, never been a fan of touchwiz.
What Android O features is Samsung going to replace or just not implement? That's an interesting question.
Was rocking an iPhone 7 for a while, but when ios11 got announced and offered literally nothing of value I said "F this" and came back to Android.
I miss the Play Edition phones.
Tachi91 said:
Wondering if Touchwiz will be updated on the S8 when it gets Oreo. Or would it just be what we have now (8.1) with Oreo underneath. I got the S8 purely for the hardware, never been a fan of touchwiz.
What Android O features is Samsung going to replace or just not implement? That's an interesting question.
Was rocking an iPhone 7 for a while, but when ios11 got announced and offered literally nothing of value I said "F this" and came back to Android.
I miss the Play Edition phones.
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on android 8 on galaxy s8, Samsung experience is expected to jump from actual 8.1 to 8.5
Haha Android Oreo. Samsung won't release anything for maybe 9 months. Your better off wishing for a bootloader unlock then installing a custom rom which modi likely won't happen for maybe 6 months.
Android O has copied / borrowed a lot from the Samsung Experience UI. It's notable in terms of functionality and also in certain UI-design, such as the revamped settings menu. It looks nearly identical to the one on the S8.
Except for a few under-the-hood optimizations Android O has NOTHING to offer to an Galaxy S6 or newer Samsung device. We already have ALL features of the Android O feature list. There is no need to getting Android O in my opinion. It's nice that those new features are borrowed from Samsung and integrated into vanilla Android but that's all there is to it. I don't need Android Oreo but I do appreciate the security updates. Keep in mind that Nougat on the S8 has a lot more features and built-in features than Vanilla Nougat! Oreo simply narrows the gap between Vanilla and the current flagship leader, Samsung in terms of usable functionality that is genuine handy with day-to-day usage.
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Can you hold press on a app icon and launch shortcuts-commands? eg: send new message in Whatsapp, or compose new email in
Does it have the notification actionable bubble?
if the answer is NO i guess literally everything is a bit incorect
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ipwnin3D said:
Android O has already been confirmed for the s8/s8+.
The reason Samsung hasn't updated to 7.1 is because it's not really needed since the s8/s8+ already does everything 7.1 has to offer.
It's speculated that Android O will be released for the s8/s8+ in January.
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already does everything 7.1 has to offer?
Press long on an app icon for in-app shortcuts - commands>
does it do that - bcz its one thing to press long an whatsapp icon and get things like uninstall, move app etc - and another thing to get send message to John, etc commands
If I am not mistaken note 8 is at 7.1 and it's a same hardware like s8 cpu wise so I think that we will get 7.1 very fast
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Android O has copied / borrowed a lot from the Samsung Experience UI. It's notable in terms of functionality and also in certain UI-design, such as the revamped settings menu. It looks nearly identical to the one on the S8.
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Yea I wouldn't go that far.
Everyone wants to have Android O on their S8. If all we get from this day forward is nothing but security updates. You'll be in the very small minority and everyone else would cause a scene and either abandon their 8 or beg Samsung for it.
Samsung has been doing a good job at keeping the S8 updated so far. Hopefully they do a good timely update to Oreo. Having treble should make updates easier for them to push out.
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Can you hold press on a app icon and launch shortcuts-commands?
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I may be wrong but doesn't Nova Launcher allow this?
tim2london said:
Can you hold press on a app icon and launch shortcuts-commands? eg: send new message in Whatsapp, or compose new email in
Does it have the notification actionable bubble?
if the answer is NO i guess literally everything is a bit incorect
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already does everything 7.1 has to offer?
Press long on an app icon for in-app shortcuts - commands>
does it do that - bcz its one thing to press long an whatsapp icon and get things like uninstall, move app etc - and another thing to get send message to John, etc commands
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Yep, mine sure can. That's been a Nova launcher feature forever.
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Yep, mine sure can. That's been a Nova launcher feature forever.
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Nova Launcher is not Android 7.1 is it?
not everyone use it as its an AdOn
Sure you can get apps/installers to make it look like Android 8 - but is not android 8 is it
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Nova Launcher is not Android 7.1 is it?
not everyone use it as its an AdOn
Sure you can get apps/installers to make it look like Android 8 - but is not android 8 is it
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Thats what android is, mate. This is not iphone, u can, and assume you customize your phone via apps
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Yep, mine sure can. That's been a Nova launcher feature forever.
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emprize said:
Thats what android is, mate. This is not iphone, u can, and assume you customize your phone via apps
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Yes i get that - but its still android 7.0
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Coming from the s6, i saw the exact same train of thought i see here, so im going to say its always going to be a samsung "thing". When i had my s6 and it was on MM, people were in such an uproar about nougat and even when they got it they still were. I was happy with MM, people moreso say oh what about the security updates, i was an a 7 month old rom and never had any issues and only moved to nougat roms when the one i was one stopped updating.
Now i have the s8+, had it 3 weeks now and im not even thinking about the Oreo update right now, im happy with what i have, and when Oreo does come out for the phone i'll see how people find it 1st rather than jump in head first and then regret it.
I know Samsungs update policy so im not going to get in a huff about the update, people not so aware may not share my feelings.
Since OP6 is launching with oreo on board and Android P beta is already available for OP6 does that mean that the next major android version will be the last update for the OP6 as OEM like to follow 2 major upgrades for their flagships ?
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Since OP6 is launching with oreo on board and Android P beta is already available for OP6 does that mean that the next major android version will be the last update for the OP6 as OEM like to follow 2 major upgrades for their flagships ?
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Maybe because OnePlus 3 was launched with marshmallow and last major update was oreo so it could be but OnePlus 6 will support Project Treble so don't know for sure but I think it'll recieve more updates.
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Maybe because OnePlus 3 was launched with marshmallow and last major update was oreo so it could be but OnePlus 6 will support Project Treble so don't know for sure but I think it'll recieve more updates.
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Oneplus should extend the support period to 3 years as with pixel 2 phone.
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Oneplus should extend the support period to 3 years as with pixel 2 phone.
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I thought with Project Treble it will get P, Q & R ?
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I thought with Project Treble it will get P, Q & R ?
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Let's hope for it.
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Let's hope for it.
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Absolutely
Absolutely not, guaranteed
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I thought with Project Treble it will get P, Q & R ?
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What about S, T etc.? Or am I missing something?
I think that support for a phone depends on its popularity, the manufacturers do not follow strict guidelines, I mean, they respect their promises but they may extend support if a product is very popular and has a very large user base. And I predict that the OP6 will be very popular because it doesn't have obvious shortcomings, it looks to be ticking all the essential boxes.
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What about S, T etc.? Or am I missing something?
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Or maybe Z ver. Do you wanna keep your phone till 2040?
sitarumadalincosmin said:
Or maybe Z ver. Do you wanna keep your phone till 2040?
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Why not?
jacdelad said:
Why not?
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Hahaha...keep dreaming
sitarumadalincosmin said:
Hahaha...keep dreaming
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My question was especially if there are plans after Android R or if Google already mentioned something that it will stop. I thought I maybe missed something (also looking at Fuchsia).
I don't get why people worry SO much about what versions of android a device will get as long as it gets solid security updates for at least a year after release. If the phone is very good already, would it be such torture to keep living with it the way it is? Don't think so.
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I don't get why people worry SO much about what versions of android a device will get as long as it gets solid security updates for at least a year after release. If the phone is very good already, would it be such torture to keep living with it the way it is? Don't think so.
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It wouldn't be torture, but it would be nice to think you can use the phone for a few years and be running the latest and greatest software on it, without the need for upgrading the phone to the newest model.
So, the phone is just released and we're already talking about his its end of support? :laugh:
if not there will always be project trebble roms for it .
Here's the official Software Support outline from OnePlus
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/oneplus-software-maintenance-schedule.862347/
So two years means Android Q for sure but maybe not Android R .
One Plus 6 was released in about April 2018, Pie comes out is released in September
April 2019 One Plus 7??? then Android Q in about September.
The One Plus 6 would be about a year and a half old.
April 2020 One Plus 8 ???? then Android R in September but then the One Plus 6 would be 2 and a half .... may not see Android R
I can live with that replacing a cell phone every two years is not unreasonable.
What bother me about software cycles is I know this is all arbitrary and is done so we would want to buy new phones.
Meanwhile if I wanted to root, I am sure my One Plus 6 will work with third party ROMs "download them from XDA" many years after OnePlus abandons my device.
It will receive Android R
Op6 will be updated to Android R as op3/3t launched with marshmallow and officially will be updated to Android pie as confirmed by OnePlus...Op 6 n Op6t(already launched on pie.. so definitely Android R) will receive Android R
maybe it's too early to ask or dumbest question, but any news for S7 getting next upgrade?
Android Oreo is last big update for S7.
ah that's sad. SD820/exynos + 4GB of ram is more than enough to running an android 9.
Unfortunately. The S9 is a crap phone. Ugly, and the horrible curved sides are stupid and interfere with proper case protection. Not even sure there's any variation of the S9 with unlocked an bootloader.
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The S7 Hardware is compatible with the Android Pie, the Snapdragon 820 (or Exynos 8890) run perfectly, but the Sammy don't want give the update.
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Unfortunately. The S9 is a crap phone. Ugly, and the horrible curved sides are stupid and interfere with proper case protection. Not even sure there's any variation of the S9 with unlocked an bootloader.
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Not any US variation, but the Exynos model is same as always with official TWRP support and ROM's.
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Not any US variation, but the Exynos model is same as always with official TWRP support and ROM's.
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So you're saying the Exynos S8 and S9 still have unlocked bootloaders? I swear I had read that that stopped being the case, but I'd welcome being wrong.
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So you're saying the Exynos S8 and S9 still have unlocked bootloaders? I swear I had read that that stopped being the case, but I'd welcome being wrong.
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Yep, there's big development sections for both
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9/samsung-galaxy-s9--s9-cross-device-development
The TWRP thread also has the same bootloader unlock steps, but reading it now it does mention apparently phones have a 7 day cool down before OEM unlock becomes possible.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75893923&postcount=3
The S7 flat was the last hardware Samsung did right in a phone. The Samsung experience is overblown. The curved screen is gimmick. The specs for S8 and S9 are not great for the $ compared to S7. I wouldn't hold my breath for anything awesome in Android 9, which will take a year to never. Until then, LOS 16 will become stable and bug free.
Have a good day.
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The S7 flat was the last hardware Samsung did right in a phone.
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No, that'd be the S5 which still had a removable battery and did it while still being water-resistant.
gruuvin said:
The S7 flat was the last hardware Samsung did right in a phone. The Samsung experience is overblown. The curved screen is gimmick. The specs for S8 and S9 are not great for the $ compared to S7. I wouldn't hold my breath for anything awesome in Android 9, which will take a year to never. Until then, LOS 16 will become stable and bug free.
Have a good day.
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Same thoughts here... Good day to you too.
So, are we saying that the last update for the S7 was Android 8.0.0 (obvious), or are we saying that Samsung has proclaimed that there will be no Android 9 update to the S7 (not so obvious)?
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So, are we saying that the last update for the S7 was Android 8.0.0 (obvious), or are we saying that Samsung has proclaimed that there will be no Android 9 update to the S7 (not so obvious)?
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i really hope the android pie will be the last for S7/Edge. but, the latest security patch i've got is 1st august, so i think there's no chance for S7/Edge to get the android pie. 2 year for major upgrade and 3/4 year for security patch (Quarterly not monthly).
November security patch
Nothing official but there is always lineage os or other custom roms.
Someone may end up porting pie touchwiz but probably not anytime soon
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The S7 Hardware is compatible with the Android Pie, the Snapdragon 820 (or Exynos 8890) run perfectly, but the Sammy don't want give the update.
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Ofcourse they won't give the update, they just want to sell new phones instead of keeping the old ones running.
Even the Google security patches takes really long time for them to push out, i waited 4 months on security patches even thou they are obligated to push them out within 90 days.
Samsung have announced that OneUI (the new Samsung's user interface) will come to Galaxy S8, S8+, Note 8, S9 and S9+, so this is my question: do you think OneUI will come to the mid-range A8 2018 with the next official Android Pie update?
Thank you for your feedback
No, it was confirmed that it will not. None but the flagships will get it (S8 and up and the Note 8 and up series).
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No, it was confirmed that it will not. None but the flagships will get it (S8 and up and the Note 8 and up series).
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Thanks for your reply. Could you post the source of your statement?
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Thanks for your reply. Could you post the source of your statement?
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Here it is https://www.theandroidsoul.com/samsung-one-ui-device-list-and-release-date/
I do hope we get it unofficially though. It'll be a shame to pass on a perfectly good device.
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Here it is
I do hope we get it unofficially though. It'll be a shame to pass on a perfectly good device.
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This is sad news (if that is true). Maybe Samsung will include OneUI in their new A8S next year. This proof shows that Samsung mistreat their mid-range and low-range devices.
Do you think OneUI will be available with a custom ROM? (this would require root access, right?)
Thank you again
It should come judging by previous a series phones which all received 2 major updates, and pie would be the 2nd major update for the a8. I doubt Samsung would develop a special version of pie that is not one UI for the a8, and it would make sense to use one UI.
A8 One UI
Samsung has officially announced in the members app that the A8 will get one UI and pie in April 2019