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[Q] Asking the WP7 community - some questions

Hi guys,
I'm thinking of buying a Samsung Omnia 7 right now as there are really cheap in Germany. But I am unsure about a few things which keeps me from buying for now, maybe you can help me? I am currently using a SE Xperia X1 (HTC Kovsky).
First off: NoDo. It's there already or will be there soon. Are any Registry tweaks possible after NoDo is up and running? I don't mind it beeing complicated, is it just possible?
Second: ChevronWP7. It's going to fade away after NoDo, no surprise. Has anyone heard of similar applications in development? Most important feature I guess is sideloading applications on WP7, are there other solutions?
I heard something of USB tethering on the Omnia7. Is that true? Are there any restritcions? Is this still working after NoDo?
What about HTC apps? Obviously the won't install after NoDo, but which of them used to work on a "unlocked" device?
Is there any way of recognizing the device as USB-storage?
Thats it for now. Any help is appreciated Thanks already!

derliebewolf said:
Hi guys,
I'm thinking of buying a Samsung Omnia 7 right now as there are really cheap in Germany. But I am unsure about a few things which keeps me from buying for now, maybe you can help me? I am currently using a SE Xperia X1 (HTC Kovsky).
First off: NoDo. It's there already or will be there soon. Are any Registry tweaks possible after NoDo is up and running? I don't mind it beeing complicated, is it just possible?
Second: ChevronWP7. It's going to fade away after NoDo, no surprise. Has anyone heard of similar applications in development? Most important feature I guess is sideloading applications on WP7, are there other solutions?
I heard something of USB tethering on the Omnia7. Is that true? Are there any restritcions? Is this still working after NoDo?
What about HTC apps? Obviously the won't install after NoDo, but which of them used to work on a "unlocked" device?
Is there any way of recognizing the device as USB-storage?
Thats it for now. Any help is appreciated Thanks already!
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I don't think there is a chevron-like device for after NoDo devices yet, so if not then the answer to your other questions is "no" but I don't know 100%.
I do know there is no way to mount your device as USB storage, only Zune can recognize the phone, the only exception is if you own an HD2.

orangekid said:
I don't think there is a chevron-like device for after NoDo devices yet, so if not then the answer to your other questions is "no" but I don't know 100%.
I do know there is no way to mount your device as USB storage, only Zune can recognize the phone, the only exception is if you own an HD2.
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I believe this will resolve all of his issues though it's still just in beta
http://touchxperience.com/

oh yeah I forgot about that, I hope it's the real deal and actually works.

You don't own a WP7 device yet, but your major preoccupation seems to be unlocking it or tearing it apart. I used to apply every tweak to my phone in previous Windows Mobile.. I'm a tinkerer. With WP7 I have NO desire to go rooting and editing registry and all that. The homebrew just doesn't appeal to me. I wouldn't make this your primary hangup over buying the phone.
The answer to most of your questions is 'No'. My comment on that is 'so what?'

I think the dude above me makes a good point.
If you like to mod, theme, tether, or change anything about your phone then WP7 is not for you.

orangekid said:
I think the dude above me makes a good point.
If you like to mod, theme, tether, or change anything about your phone then WP7 is not for you.
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Yeah, the same way - if you really want a full power of what modern OS can give you currently, WP7 is not for you either.
It's not only about modding. It's about usage.

for day to day use, it's probably the best out of all the current smartphone OS'. However, for more advanced things, it's not there yet. How long will it take, well that is up to MS and how they go about it over the course of the year, but with 3 months pretty much gone now, it doesn't look like we will see much of it till late next year when windows phone 8 comes about.

Thanks for you'r response, guys!
One more question about registry edits: I found the registry edior by Julien Schapman and I read somewhere else that registry edits can be done by deploying a provxml. are there other solutions? Juliens tool obviously won't work after NoDo as it has to be sideloaded...

i own the omnia 7 for about 3 weeks and there were a few moments when i wanted to go back to my nokia 5800, but on the other hand when i saw its incredibly laggy UI, powered by a 330mhz CPU i realized how awesome the omnia with win7 actually is.
ofcourse there are only about 15% setting options compared to the 5800 one's, but eventually one doesnt need the most of them in the daily routine anyway.
so for my needs the omnia 7 is pretty optimal, though i'm missing proper backlight settings, pause-function with the camcorder and some other little things, but i guess not too far in the future there will be a major update.
till then i'm satisfied with whats there..

derliebewolf said:
Thanks for you'r response, guys!
One more question about registry edits: I found the registry edior by Julien Schapman and I read somewhere else that registry edits can be done by deploying a provxml. are there other solutions? Juliens tool obviously won't work after NoDo as it has to be sideloaded...
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bro if you are MS you will like to plug all the holes in your OS as well....
i dont think this time MS will like ppl to play with there OS as they did with WM OS...
as right now the NoDo is pushed in batches to individual devices, its not like last time you can go to HTC website and download a ROM and wala...
my pre update update was exactly 10 days late and i dont expect any thing less from NoDo as well...

Yeah I know. Providers have their share of the timing process as well. But it's possible to unbrand the Omnia7 and have a the NoDo Update direktly without any lag.

[Q] Upgraded to Mango - Can't revert now?

So I received my Arrive in the mail today and played around for a little while and decided to take the plunge and load Mango.
Since this has been loaded I've run into nothing but problems. The Zune software won't properly recognize the phone so I can't sync music/apps to it, and whenever I plug in my phone to the computer it tells me I need to update the Zune software, but then goes on to say it's up to date. I can't actually interact with my Arrive through the Zune software.
I've tried downloading the Sprint RUU files and booting into recovery and running the RUU, but it never finds my phone. I've tried this on an XP machine and Win7 machine, getting the same results on both.
Are there any other ways to revert to NoDo? I'm running into nothing but dead ends here and I have no idea how to get back to factory. I realize that people need to buck up when they goof something up, I just thought I was very careful in making sure I was reading through the instructions at least twice and then taking the step.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Hopefully I didn't just turn this new phone into an expensive paperweight.

Whilst I haven't tried Mango myself, I would imagine most people would suggest going back to a previous backup if one was made. Microsoft have instructions here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/howto/wp7/basics/restore-a-backup-to-my-phone.aspx
I have no idea if this will work in your situation, frankly, but if you are desperate it might be worth a try at your own risk - perhaps someone can clarify if this is the right thing to do?

TooSlo said:
So I received my Arrive in the mail today and played around for a little while and decided to take the plunge and load Mango.
Since this has been loaded I've run into nothing but problems. The Zune software won't properly recognize the phone so I can't sync music/apps to it, and whenever I plug in my phone to the computer it tells me I need to update the Zune software, but then goes on to say it's up to date. I can't actually interact with my Arrive through the Zune software.
I've tried downloading the Sprint RUU files and booting into recovery and running the RUU, but it never finds my phone. I've tried this on an XP machine and Win7 machine, getting the same results on both.
Are there any other ways to revert to NoDo? I'm running into nothing but dead ends here and I have no idea how to get back to factory. I realize that people need to buck up when they goof something up, I just thought I was very careful in making sure I was reading through the instructions at least twice and then taking the step.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Hopefully I didn't just turn this new phone into an expensive paperweight.
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What method did you use to upgrade to Mango Beta?

ScottSUmmers said:
What method did you use to upgrade to Mango Beta?
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http://windowsphonehacker.com/articles/get_the_mango_update_now._without_being_a_developer.-06-30-11
I ended up having some issues with my OS that was causing the problem. After a fresh reload this morning I was able to run the restore.bat and properly get my phone back to NoDo.
I'm thinking I might give this another try now that I know I can restore without any issues. I was beginning to think I'd really borked myself, though at 2am you start to think "end of the world" type thoughts with your device.
On a side note - I'm absolutely loving WP7 so far, though it's hard going from my EVO to this. The screen is SO much smaller and the device is noticeably fatter and colors of the LCD are a bit lacking in direct comparison. I think most of it's just going to be getting used to the phone and leaving my EVO at home when I'm running around.
Thank you all for the support. I always forget why I love XDA so much!

u needed to update the Zune client to the latest beta as well after installing mango. that's why u weren't being detected. and the reason the colors look better on the evo than the arrive is because the evo is 32 bit color while the arrive is 16bit color in NoDo. mango fixes that and brings the colors to 32 bit

eric12341 said:
u needed to update the Zune client to the latest beta as well after installing mango. that's why u weren't being detected. and the reason the colors look better on the evo than the arrive is because the evo is 32 bit color while the arrive is 16bit color in NoDo. mango fixes that and brings the colors to 32 bit
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Interesting. I'll have to take a look at this a little later this evening when I get home from work. I wasn't aware of the color difference. I reloaded Mango after getting the beta Zune client and have my backup ready to go.
Feeling better about WP7 for sure now.

[Q] 7.8 Sianto Edition questions

Hello all, I have a couple questions about the WP7.8 Sianto Edition for the HTC Arrive. I have the Sprint Arrive and am considering putting this rom on my phone. First I would like to know if anyone knows what kind of unlock it has, if any. Also, does the USB Tethering work in the 1.6 for the Arrive? I see it listed for the 1.6.1 for the 7 Pro..
And does anyone have any input on how reliable this rom is? I am looking for forward to the 2.0L that is said to be coming soon. As of late my phone has gotten so slow and my data connection speed is terrible lately. It seems every week it gets worse and I am having many apps just crash to the home screen and apps that rely on the data like radio apps just take forever to even open now. My wife has this same phone on the same network and hers is not having any of these issues.
Thanks for your replies.

Anyone know? Planning to download the rom tomorrow but want to know about the unlock first. I have yet to HSPL my phone but will when I have all my questions sorted out.

Hi mate!
Concerning the slow speeds, if you upgraded your phones memory by swapping the sd card, the two can be related (for example, my youtube videos are very sluggish while streaming). I Have an international 7 pro (no carrier branding) and it's been 10 months since my last hard reset (when I upgraded the memory from 8 to 32 gigs) and i am also experiencing very slow load times, but I don't know about the apps crashing. Data loading is also a bit slow on my side (on some apps while refreshing) but internet explorer just works fine.
But I remember the phone working just fine right after the memory upgrade, so my guess is that constantly adding and erasing apps and files like videos, music and pictures are kind of messing up the responsiveness of the system.
PS: Sorry for my response not being specific enough to your case. I didn't want to reply at first but since the 7 pro forums aren't much populated lately, I thought that my idea on the subject could help.

true2you said:
Hi mate!
Concerning the slow speeds, if you upgraded your phones memory by swapping the sd card, the two can be related (for example, my youtube videos are very sluggish while streaming). I Have an international 7 pro (no carrier branding) and it's been 10 months since my last hard reset (when I upgraded the memory from 8 to 32 gigs) and i am also experiencing very slow load times, but I don't know about the apps crashing. Data loading is also a bit slow on my side (on some apps while refreshing) but internet explorer just works fine.
But I remember the phone working just fine right after the memory upgrade, so my guess is that constantly adding and erasing apps and files like videos, music and pictures are kind of messing up the responsiveness of the system.
PS: Sorry for my response not being specific enough to your case. I didn't want to reply at first but since the 7 pro forums aren't much populated lately, I thought that my idea on the subject could help.
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thanks for your reply, i was starting to think i wasnt getting one! lol but yea my phone is very slow compared to my wifes phone and has been since i got it. before the mango update it was laggy just scrolling on the Start screen. im hoping it is just the ROM that came on the phone, so thats partly why i want to update to the 7.8.. also i want the unlock benefits, but i cant seem to find if the Sianto ROM is unlocked or not.

x_orange90_x said:
thanks for your reply, i was starting to think i wasnt getting one! lol but yea my phone is very slow compared to my wifes phone and has been since i got it. before the mango update it was laggy just scrolling on the Start screen. im hoping it is just the ROM that came on the phone, so thats partly why i want to update to the 7.8.. also i want the unlock benefits, but i cant seem to find if the Sianto ROM is unlocked or not.
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For one, yes, the Sianto ROM IS unlocked.
And for another, the first time I loaded the Sianto ROM on my phone, it was at v1.4, I believe. After going through the steps, my phone was it's fastest ever, and I loved my phone even more than when I had first gotten it. Things were great for about a week, until tragedy struck: an app I installed from the Bazaar marketplace while at school basically bricked my phone. So, I borrowed a friends phone, let people know I would be incommunicado, and waited out the day. When I got home, I immediately came here to XDA, and tried to remember which ROM I had loaded, but wasn't able to get the same computer I had originally used. I remembered Sianto's name, but then saw ansar's ROM, and decided to try that one.
Long story fairly short: I switched back to Sianto after about a day, and haven't looked back since.
I don't know about USB tethering, but the internet sharing works in v1.6, and I especially like that Digital Power was added to the Settings. Every time I flashed my phone before, I had to reinstall Digital Power, but not with this version!
All in all, I wholeheartedly recommend Sianto v1.6, and I know that when v2.0L comes out, I'm definitely going to flash it.
Hope I helped.

evath said:
For one, yes, the Sianto ROM IS unlocked.
And for another, the first time I loaded the Sianto ROM on my phone, it was at v1.4, I believe. After going through the steps, my phone was it's fastest ever, and I loved my phone even more than when I had first gotten it. Things were great for about a week, until tragedy struck: an app I installed from the Bazaar marketplace while at school basically bricked my phone. So, I borrowed a friends phone, let people know I would be incommunicado, and waited out the day. When I got home, I immediately came here to XDA, and tried to remember which ROM I had loaded, but wasn't able to get the same computer I had originally used. I remembered Sianto's name, but then saw ansar's ROM, and decided to try that one.
Long story fairly short: I switched back to Sianto after about a day, and haven't looked back since.
I don't know about USB tethering, but the internet sharing works in v1.6, and I especially like that Digital Power was added to the Settings. Every time I flashed my phone before, I had to reinstall Digital Power, but not with this version!
All in all, I wholeheartedly recommend Sianto v1.6, and I know that when v2.0L comes out, I'm definitely going to flash it.
Hope I helped.
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Thanks for your reply! That's exactly the response I was looking for! Glad to know that it is unlocked and that you got a performance boost out of it. I get internet hooked up on Monday so I will be downloading and flashing around then!
Thanks again

x_orange90_x said:
Thanks for your reply! That's exactly the response I was looking for! Glad to know that it is unlocked and that you got a performance boost out of it. I get internet hooked up on Monday so I will be downloading and flashing around then!
Thanks again
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No problem, hope everything goes well. Let us know how it turns out! :good:

7.8 update official

Hello All,
I just thought I would confirm that the 7.8 update is being sent out to our devices.
I have just plugged mine in to Zune, and it immediately said that I had an update waiting.
Just for reference, I have an HTC 7 Pro, that is running the standard UK Rom.

Great to see a wide range of the original devices getting the update, thus far I have it working on my Titan and HD7 and now that I have seen this thread I can let my work colleague know it's available for his 7 Pro.

Differences?
I updated this morning, I can't see much different apart from the start menu.
It seems to be running slower too.

wyrdfish said:
I updated this morning, I can't see much different apart from the start menu.
It seems to be running slower too.
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The change log is as follows.
Start Screen: Provides resizable Live Tiles (small, medium, large) to provide for more customization options for your Start Screen.
Accent Colors: Increases the number of available accent or theme colors to twenty.
Lock Screen: Improves the lock screen performance with accidental wipe protection and rotating wallpapers provided through the Bing image of the day.
Marketplace and Xbox: Expands Windows Phone Marketplace and Xbox support to new countries and regions.
Fonts: Enhances the Chinese font and improves the appearance of Arabic and other languages.
Microsoft also notes that the 7.8 update includes many "other improvements" to Windows Phone in the change log.

Odd, we don't seem to be getting the update at all stateside. Tried the method I used to forge Mango (update, click somewhere else, click update again, unplug network cable, wait, nothing). Sprint Forumers are saying that the update is totally shelved for US customers with this phone, because of a manufacturer decision from HTC somehow.
I'm suddenly interested in what the heck is going on now, since you folks in the UK are getting along with 7.8 just fine...gahhhhhhhh sprint

ablahblah said:
Odd, we don't seem to be getting the update at all stateside. Tried the method I used to forge Mango (update, click somewhere else, click update again, unplug network cable, wait, nothing). Sprint Forumers are saying that the update is totally shelved for US customers with this phone, because of a manufacturer decision from HTC somehow.
I'm suddenly interested in what the heck is going on now, since you folks in the UK are getting along with 7.8 just fine...gahhhhhhhh sprint
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What version are you using? I come in just to see if there's any official update for Arrive. But if you can't wait, just do the force update.

Have three HTC Arrives..updated two so far using this tool
go here and download this tool:
windowsphonehacker.com/articles/want_windows_phone_7.8_now_try_this_easy_tool-01-31-13
If you are still on mango, it will take awhile. stay by the phone, will need 5 plus reboots with confirmation clicks for each reboot.
ablahblah said:
Odd, we don't seem to be getting the update at all stateside. Tried the method I used to forge Mango (update, click somewhere else, click update again, unplug network cable, wait, nothing). Sprint Forumers are saying that the update is totally shelved for US customers with this phone, because of a manufacturer decision from HTC somehow.
I'm suddenly interested in what the heck is going on now, since you folks in the UK are getting along with 7.8 just fine...gahhhhhhhh sprint
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tempehman said:
go here and download this tool:
windowsphonehacker.com/articles/want_windows_phone_7.8_now_try_this_easy_tool-01-31-13
If you are still on mango, it will take awhile. stay by the phone, will need 5 plus reboots with confirmation clicks for each reboot.
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aiiiya I'm still stuck on 7720 >.<. any idea on what language packs I should be downloading onto this? I can't send Heathcliff's Version and Language app, since I'm not unlocked, and I can't figure out any other way of finding them T.T
*never mind, just downloaded them all. us version seems to have all of them I think?

ouuh. 805a01f7 error in marketplace atm. anyone else getting this issue or know what causes it? phone was fine right before I forced 7.8.
EDIT : never mind, just needed a reboot is all. tempeheman, thanks so much! otherwise I'd still be stuck on Mango right now xD

ablahblah said:
aiiiya I'm still stuck on 7720 >.<. any idea on what language packs I should be downloading onto this? I can't send Heathcliff's Version and Language app, since I'm not unlocked, and I can't figure out any other way of finding them T.T
*never mind, just downloaded them all. us version seems to have all of them I think?
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wpcentral has all the details discussed. you only need 0409.(english)

HTC Arrive
Has anyone been able to get the official update to download from Zune on the HTC Arrive? If so how???????

I just updated my arrive. Seemed kinda weird. 6 reboots and done. Seems snappier. I have only had it for a week but this update is nice. Has anyone else had good luck with this too?
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mcgovern.kk said:
I just updated my arrive. Seemed kinda weird. 6 reboots and done. Seems snappier. I have only had it for a week but this update is nice. Has anyone else had good luck with this too?
Sent from my T7575 using Board Express
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Like we said before, the start screen looks nice, with resizeable tiles, and that's it, some icon changes maybe, but no real improvement underline. It's nice to get an update, but not too much with no real fixes for the problems we are facing. Actually, it should be quite easy for many of those "problems" to be fixed.

mcgovern.kk said:
I just updated my arrive. Seemed kinda weird. 6 reboots and done. Seems snappier. I have only had it for a week but this update is nice. Has anyone else had good luck with this too?
Sent from my T7575 using Board Express
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How did you get it to work? I tried the unplug the lan cable way and still nothing. Thanks for any help.

I used Tempehman's link on the other page. I didn't want to or have had to rom it.
Sent from my T7575 using Board Express

Stupid Sprint!!!! Making us all jump through hoops to get an update to our phone when they could probably easily turn it on. UGHHHHHHH!!!!!!

Lumia 1020 - Camera not launching / Looking for old WP rom

My Lumia has decided to no longer launch the camera app. Which is great for a phone that is camera-centric. I've been searching hi and low for a fix, however all I have run into is other users with other Lumias (including the 1020) having the same problem. Camera App starts loading and then returns to the home screen. Never had an issue with the camera before, however I had reset the device because I was going to sell it off and now the camera no longer works - go figure.
Phone model: Lumia 1020
PackageTitle: RM-877 VAR NAM CA ROGERS WIRELESS SL BLK
Product Code: 059T1V9
manufacturerHardwareModel: RM-877
Last Firmware: 3051.50009.1424.0000 (this is what is installed right now)
If anyone knows of or has an old firmware for this phone please let me know. Ideally I am trying to go back to WP 8 /Black if possible. I saw the thread about Android on the 520/525 which maybe gives hope that one day I could move this phone to that world but for now I have a lovely phone thats not so smart.

mooseinakilt said:
My Lumia has decided to no longer launch the camera app. Which is great for a phone that is camera-centric. I've been searching hi and low for a fix, however all I have run into is other users with other Lumias (including the 1020) having the same problem. Camera App starts loading and then returns to the home screen. Never had an issue with the camera before, however I had reset the device because I was going to sell it off and now the camera no longer works - go figure.
Phone model: Lumia 1020
PackageTitle: RM-877 VAR NAM CA ROGERS WIRELESS SL BLK
Product Code: 059T1V9
manufacturerHardwareModel: RM-877
Last Firmware: 3051.50009.1424.0000 (this is what is installed right now)
If anyone knows of or has an old firmware for this phone please let me know. Ideally I am trying to go back to WP 8 /Black if possible. I saw the thread about Android on the 520/525 which maybe gives hope that one day I could move this phone to that world but for now I have a lovely phone thats not so smart.
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I'm aassuming you already tried hard-reset and flash this original firmware again...
Do you test it with CV (debranded) firmware?
If you look on older firmware, could seek in http://www.lumiafirmware.com/ser/RM-877/guid/059T3M3 for oldest firmware for RM-877.
Almost off topic.: Do you tested also with W10?

I'll answer the last part first... I did use W10, and the camera would take 1 picture and then suffer the same issue of not launching.
I had not tried a debranded firmware yet, someone gifted me a used 1020 a couple weeks after this post and I was able to use it. I have it running W10 currently, although I am underwhelmed by its performance and will be pushing it back to W8.1 in the near future. I'll give the other phone a shot with a different firmware this coming weekend, see what happens with it then.

mooseinakilt said:
I'll answer the last part first... I did use W10, and the camera would take 1 picture and then suffer the same issue of not launching.
I had not tried a debranded firmware yet, someone gifted me a used 1020 a couple weeks after this post and I was able to use it. I have it running W10 currently, although I am underwhelmed by its performance and will be pushing it back to W8.1 in the near future. I'll give the other phone a shot with a different firmware this coming weekend, see what happens with it then.
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I would like to know if it was able to solve the problem of the camera not working on windows 8.1, because I have a 1020 lumia and its camera also stopped working, I made the update for windows 10 and the camera started to work, but the image quality is very poor , I can not change megapixel option and no other camera application works.
My Firmware is 3051.50009.1451.1001
1607 version
Build SO 10.0.14393.448
Before on windows 8.1 the camera did not work, I thought it was a hardware problem, but when updating and the camera worked on windows 10, it was not hardware but software.