Phones that can see IR Light - General Questions and Answers

I'm currently working on a project and I wanted to see if anyone knows of a list of phones that don't have an infrared (IR) filter on the main camera. I'm currently working on a project where I need the phone to be able to see IR light. Can anyone provide a list of phones or phones that you personally know that can see IR light with the main camera? Thank you.

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G Tablet FF Camera upgrade?

I'm just curious, and still have not found the answer I was looking for via search.
Can the 1.3mp camera be replaced with a better a 5mp camera on the G Tablet?...
Assuming The hardware exists, and that it is compatible, is possible I am sure a new kernel is needed, what about the possibility of adding 720 recording like the hd2(android version) or the nexus one?
Any thoughts would be appreciated, and thanks in advance.
I would personally love to see the addition of a 5 or 8MP rear-facing camera. Yeah, I know it would involve some massive hardware hacking, but it would be a nice addition.
Is that pain and suffering really worth the upgrade? There would be no way to use the camera effectively because you would have to have you back to what you were shooting. My opinion would be to go buy an HD video camera for $150. Cheaper and easier than hacking your tablet up.
This is one thing that frustrates me about my G-tablet. I took some videos of the family out in the snow the other day and it was a real pain trying to capture the video since the camera only faces forward. The video turned out alright since we were outside and in good light. I've found that unless you are in really good lighting, the camera does not perform well. The quality didn't even compare to most of the devices that are out on the market now (latest Android 720p phones, iPhone/iPod Touch).
I'm looking forward to the NI Adam's swivel camera. It should be really nice for not only video chatting (front-facing) but also being able to film other things from different angles. For example, it would be nice to angle the camera almost completely to the back to film other people in front of you or angle the camera perpendicular to the device if you want to lay it on the table and do a timed photo or something similar. The camera is supposed to be higher resolution on the NI Adam, but higher MP doesn't necessarily equal higher quality so I'm crossing my fingers.
I wonder if now that we have kernel source there wouldn't be some way to add support for usb webcams? I imagine the only reason no one has done it yet is because most android devices don't have usb ports.
joshua.lyon said:
This is one thing that frustrates me about my G-tablet. I took some videos of the family out in the snow the other day and it was a real pain trying to capture the video since the camera only faces forward. The video turned out alright since we were outside and in good light. I've found that unless you are in really good lighting, the camera does not perform well. The quality didn't even compare to most of the devices that are out on the market now (latest Android 720p phones, iPhone/iPod Touch).
I'm looking forward to the NI Adam's swivel camera. It should be really nice for not only video chatting (front-facing) but also being able to film other things from different angles. For example, it would be nice to angle the camera almost completely to the back to film other people in front of you or angle the camera perpendicular to the device if you want to lay it on the table and do a timed photo or something similar. The camera is supposed to be higher resolution on the NI Adam, but higher MP doesn't necessarily equal higher quality so I'm crossing my fingers.
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The FF camera is only meant for video chatting.
First off, thanks for the replies. I was looking for feedback and info and I need more, please keep them coming.
Second, I too like the idea of a rear cam pics and video, and yes I understand I wouldn't be able to take pics without my back facing, I still want it to be a web cam; The question is can I replace that cam with a better one, even if it may only be a 2.0 or 3mp? If you are going to do video chat, or maybe even streaming videos would a higher mp camera help or hurt?
Third from my understanding there may be room for a rear camera, as well as room for modules that can be added like gps. If I can get any more info and can keep the cost reasonable, I may look into both.
I like the g tab cause its a Do It Yourself-er that has tons of potential, and since I have some time on my hands, I am looking to make any one(or more) of these a potential project.
Thanks Again for the input
Skyydragon said:
First off, thanks for the replies. I was looking for feedback and info and I need more, please keep them coming.
Second, I too like the idea of a rear cam pics and video, and yes I understand I wouldn't be able to take pics without my back facing, I still want it to be a web cam; The question is can I replace that cam with a better one, even if it may only be a 2.0 or 3mp? If you are going to do video chat, or maybe even streaming videos would a higher mp camera help or hurt?
Third from my understanding there may be room for a rear camera, as well as room for modules that can be added like gps. If I can get any more info and can keep the cost reasonable, I may look into both.
I like the g tab cause its a Do It Yourself-er that has tons of potential, and since I have some time on my hands, I am looking to make any one(or more) of these a potential project.
Thanks Again for the input
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There's no way to install a rear facing camera. All these projects you mentioned have been looked into by others and have basically determined not worth it.
jfholijr said:
There's no way to install a rear facing camera. All these projects you mentioned have been looked into by others and have basically determined not worth it.
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If they all have been looked into and determined not worth the trouble, then I will concentrate my efforts elsewhere, I wont waste my time.
Apologies for wasting valuable thread space on this, and thanks for the input.
levrin said:
I wonder if now that we have kernel source there wouldn't be some way to add support for usb webcams? I imagine the only reason no one has done it yet is because most android devices don't have usb ports.
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FWIW, My Odroid T had a functioning USB webcam running android 2.1 and then 2.2. There were some driver issues, but they got them worked out.
Could this camera firmware can updated to Karbonn Titanium S5 ?

[Q] ipad 2 proximity sensor like function

Hey I was just wondering if it is possible to gain the same function as the iPad 2 has with its proximity sensor with our gtablets since we have a light sensor?
I'm not sure if it has already been asked before or if the devs are working on something similar but to me it would just make our already amazing tablet even greater
I'm not 100% sure, but I think a proximity sensor requires both a transmitter and a receiver. I assume IR.
I think iphone & ipad use light sensor to make a trick on the proximity sensor, if the light get completly darken it will assum that the device is close to a hard surface, ie: the face in the case of the iphone, so i assume that it will be posible to do so with a little software trick ... btw, anyone know which ROM take the advantage of this light sensor setting in use? don't see it on Vegan ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978068

The LG G6's release is exciting for our Cameras

Hello XDA!
Yesterday, the LG G6 was released. It seems to be a pretty good phone with a lot of emphasis on the Camera. However, when you start looking at the spec sheet you are disappointed. Not only is there just 4GB of RAM,but also the camera sensor is an IMX 258.
Seems familiar? Well, it should be as that is the same sensor that the Mi4C uses!!! Well, at least some of them since some models use a Samsung sensor. However, for us, the lucky people that have that sensor, this could mean Camera2 API support if some smart developer here on XDA manages to port it from the G6! I seriously can't wait for us to get our hands on its ROM.
Hope to get some discussion started in this thread and do some further research.
- chrismin13
Might be a different sensor even though it says 258, it surely has different lenses anyway. It's not really that good for us.
I don't think that we will ever see camera2 api on our device. The only chance is a porting from Miui (apparently present in the nougat version), but as I know it's nearly impossible since we don't have the proper sources. But we can always dream
I haven't checked this, but
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads...most-working-xd-on-mi-4c-miui-8-nougat.38684/
OH. MY. GOODNESS. Thanks for letting me know that was a thing! I'm so excited! As soon as I get my Mi4c back I'll try enabling it! Has anyone tried out the manual shutter speed? Up to how many seconds can it go?
I was also shocked the G6 had the same sensor. Couldn't believe it.
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Has anyone tried out the manual shutter speed? Up to how many seconds can it go?
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UP!
Same 0.6s exposure with camera2api enable , images are flipped 180°

[Random Idea] can ir blaster besides ir camera be used as remote.

poco has great hardware but it can be used to its extreme. and one of those pieces include The IR emitter and sensor.emitter can be manipulated to be used as regular IR blaster which requires some deep level coding.
What IR emitter? There is none. The device has an IR Camera, which captures infrared - it doesn't emit anything.
CosmicDan said:
What IR emitter? There is none. The device has an IR Camera, which captures infrared - it doesn't emit anything.
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I thought there's an IR emitter between the IR camera and earpiece? If not, how would face unlock work in total darkness?
doomed151 said:
I thought there's an IR emitter between the IR camera and earpiece? If not, how would face unlock work in total darkness?
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There is ir emitter, if one can't see it working and lighting up then consulting a doctor is better option.
Edit- don't know how ir camera but it lights up in dark for face unlock
Navi44 said:
There is ir emitter, if one can't see it working and lighting up then consulting a doctor is better option.
Edit- don't know how ir camera but it lights up in dark for face unlock
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Do you mean human eye can see infrared?
doomed151 said:
I thought there's an IR emitter between the IR camera and earpiece? If not, how would face unlock work in total darkness?
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Even when it's 100% pitch black, anything with a temperature above absolute zero will emit some IR radiation.
Navi44 said:
There is ir emitter, if one can't see it working and lighting up then consulting a doctor is better option.
Edit- don't know how ir camera but it lights up in dark for face unlock
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I don't think it was necessary to call me blind lol. But OK, that's weird - I thought it wasn't necessary these days. They developed thermographic face detection years ago, works fine in 100% darkness without needing an IR LED to act as a "flash".
ronald_loulan said:
Do you mean human eye can see infrared?
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Infrared does leak a little bit into the visible-red, yes. If you look at night-vision-capable security cameras at night you can see a faint red glow from its IR LED's. They're needed on security cameras so it can be 100% clear on everything, regardless of a heat signature. At least that's how I remember it.
But as I said, I find it strange that it needs an IR LED for thermographic face detection. Maybe it's not actually a thermographic camera and that's why it's not very secure, dunno. But I digress.
It uses simple face recognition not any fancy thermographic face recognition it uses to illuminate the face in the dark comming to the led as hardware is concerned yes you can use that led as ir transmitter for a remote but it should be able to accessed by developer so that the app can talk with it but I don't think it is possible with current access
Or you can just get a usbc IR remote for €3 from AliExpress and use that.
Pretty sure that the IR from face recognition doodad ain't gonna be ideal for remote control purposes.
If it were Xiaomi would surely have included IR blaster functionality

IR Blaster - Code learning and finicky aiming

Hello!
I have recently apgraded to an F2 Pro and so far I'm in love. I upgraded from an LG V20. Both of these phones have an IR Blaster.
The V20 was able to scan/learn ir commands by pointing a remote at it's blaster. Can the F2 Pro do this hardware wise or just software limitation ? I have not found this option in any remote app so far.
The Poco also seems to have a weird blindspot? I usualy need to point it slightly up/down/left or right of the device for it to pick up the signal. Never had this problem on my V20. Might be just my unit though, that's why I'm asking.
You'd need an IR receiver to learn the ir commands, and the poco f2 doesn’t have a dedicated one. However the cameras on electronic devices are sensitive to light in the infrared spectrum, and you could use the regular cameras as a hardware fallback. The miui remote app doesn’t have this functionality, but it sounds great ! hopefully someone will make a third-party / opensource version !
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You'd need an IR receiver to learn the ir commands, and the poco f2 doesn’t have a dedicated one. However the cameras on electronic devices are sensitive to light in the infrared spectrum, and you could use the regular cameras as a hardware fallback. The miui remote app doesn’t have this functionality, but it sounds great ! hopefully someone will make a third-party / opensource version !
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Don't you need really high FPS to use camera to get usable info from camera as an it receiver? Do you know if any apps actually do that?
Its not possible. Yes, in Theory (and only y theory) a very high speed camera could doing some magic. In first instance, you will need a camera camera of 50000fps in the best case. And this is only de first problem.
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Don't you need really high FPS to use camera to get usable info from camera as an it receiver? Do you know if any apps actually do that?
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Well that makes sense, I learned something today ! In that case I see how it would make things more difficult. I don’t know of any app that does this, sadly.

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