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Hi everyone.. I'm planning to get this device and use it outside the US (mainly China and Indonesia).
Will the 3G work in those 2 countries? From the specs sheet, I understand that MT4GS support UMTS 2100. So theoretically, there should be no problem, since China and Indonesia use UMTS 2100 band, but it would be better if someone with personal experience can confirm this.
Anyone here has any experience using MT4GS outside the US?
yep. I am. In the Netherlands. Don't know what band i am though. And i had to unlock the device before i could use it.
I'm in Canada, working fine on the regular GSM bands but I only get 2G speeds when using data...thinking about switching to a UMTS provider.
nldroid said:
yep. I am. In the Netherlands. Don't know what band i am though. And i had to unlock the device before i could use it.
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so just to be clear.. your handset has no problem using 3G connection right? as far as i know, the netherlands also use UMTS 2100 band
mat_oli said:
I'm in Canada, working fine on the regular GSM bands but I only get 2G speeds when using data...thinking about switching to a UMTS provider.
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why do you only get 2G when using data? is it due to the provider or the handset?
forzanetti said:
so just to be clear.. your handset has no problem using 3G connection right? as far as i know, the netherlands also use UMTS 2100 band
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Yep i don't have any problems using the 3G connection. Just needed to find the right APN settings.
And according this site (and a couple of others):
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
It's indeed the 2100 band.
nldroid said:
Yep i don't have any problems using the 3G connection. Just needed to find the right APN settings.
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Great!! one less thing to worry then so I think there isn't any limitations if this device is used outside the US, as long as the UMTS band is correct.
Thanks a lot!
forzanetti said:
so just to be clear.. your handset has no problem using 3G connection right? as far as i know, the netherlands also use UMTS 2100 band
why do you only get 2G when using data? is it due to the provider or the handset?
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It's due to the provider, they don't operate on the 2100 band, so I can only use their 2G network.
mat_oli said:
It's due to the provider, they don't operate on the 2100 band, so I can only use their 2G network.
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Thanks for the info!! Now I feel more encouraged to get this device
I found this in the review section of this phone in phonearena :
Global travelers will like the handset very much since it can be used just about anywhere around the world for phone calls, but 3G and 4G data speeds can only be experience domestically through T-Mobile’s AWS band. However, you can still achieve 2G EDGE speeds with other network carriers.
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now I'm confused again
2G it is GSM that can be used anyware in the world that supports GSM however 3G on different carriers uses different bands and different technology, Tmob uses a AWS* some carriers use this for there 3G.... Check if your carrier uses AWS for its 3G.
I know that Canada has WIND and Mobilicity that use AWS 1.7/2.1 for there 3G,.... that said I don't know about other countrys...
* About AWS in the USA
In September 2006, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) auctioned licenses in the first Advanced Wireless Services band. This band was an area of wireless spectrum, half in the 1700 MHz (1.7 GHz) and half in the 2100 MHz (2.1 GHz) frequencies, that was already in use by government services. The spectrum was planned to become available after the government users migrated to different frequencies.
Mistix said:
2G it is GSM that can be used anyware in the world that supports GSM however 3G on different carriers uses different bands and different technology, Tmob uses a AWS* some carriers use this for there 3G.... Check if your carrier uses AWS for its 3G.
I know that Canada has WIND and Mobilicity that use AWS 1.7/2.1 for there 3G,.... that said I don't know about other countrys...
* About AWS in the USA
In September 2006, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) auctioned licenses in the first Advanced Wireless Services band. This band was an area of wireless spectrum, half in the 1700 MHz (1.7 GHz) and half in the 2100 MHz (2.1 GHz) frequencies, that was already in use by government services. The spectrum was planned to become available after the government users migrated to different frequencies.
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Hi Mistix.. thanks for your reply
Yes I'm aware about the AWS which uses the 1700/2100 band for their 3G and 4G, but according to phonearena, MT4GS supports the following band :
UMTS: 1700/2100, 2100
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which means besides supporting AWS (1700/2100), it also supports the "regular" 2100 UMTS band. The information could be wrong though..
but nldroid has stated that he has no problem using 3G in the Netherlands. And the last time I checked, the Netherlands still use the "regular" 2100 UMTS band (AWS is only available in the states and Canada).
Maybe they mean that if you're T-Mobile USA customer you can only use 2G outside the US with roaming.
I'm definitly on 3G. (it actually says 4G sometimes: http://attachments.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=689448&d=1313411454)
nldroid said:
Maybe they mean that if you're T-Mobile USA customer you can only use 2G outside the US with roaming.
I'm definitly on 3G. (it actually says 4G sometimes: http://attachments.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=689448&d=1313411454)
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Thanks for the pic! Looking forward to get my hand on this baby next month
As the topic states, is there any way to use the Nexus 5 (D821) on the Sprint Network in the US?
I had a broken phone so I bought this nexus 5 thinking that regardless of the difference between the two, the radio should still be compatible with it since it is supposed to be a world phone. I just recently realized that the radios are different (apparently the D821 isn't allowed to use CDMA bands).
I know there is the Nexus Field Test APK, but I don't think that would enable those CDMA bands.
I won't be back in the states for another three months, and at that point, my service contract would end with Sprint, so I could either buy a new phone, or go to another carrier (maybe T-mobile, or any pre-paid provider) and shop around.
But, as for my question, is there any way to get the D821 to use the Sprint Network?
See below.
Elluel said:
GSM networks are the exact same on either device
Some NA carriers use CDMA instead of GSM for 2G. A D821 won't be able to get 2G from those NA carriers that use CDMA, a D820 will get 2G anywhere in the world on either GSM or CDMA.
D820's extra band 19 on WCDMA is pretty much negligible
Some LTE bands are shared, but most are different. If you're lucky/pre-searched before choosing a carrier, you can get a D820 to work elsewhere/D821 to work in NA on LTE if the carrier happens to use one of the LTE bands that are shared between the D820 and D821.
D820:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
D821:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
Also, it has been proven possible to enable LTE band 3 & 8 on the D820, as well as band 2 & 4 on the D821 with modifications, which could make your D820 work on more non-NA carriers, and your D821 work on more NA carriers. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/radio-enable-lte-band-3-nexus-5-d820-t2928561)
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Elluel said:
See below.
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So there is no software enabled modification that I can use that will enable the CDMA bands (not the LTE bands) to be used on a D821?
I know of that forum link at the bottom of the post, but, as far as I know, CDMA is required before the use of LTE on Sprint.
slixzen said:
So there is no software enabled modification that I can use that will enable the CDMA bands (not the LTE bands) to be used on a D821?
I know of that forum link at the bottom of the post, but, as far as I know, CDMA is required before the use of LTE on Sprint.
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The D821 lacks CDMA support completely.
As far as I know, Sprint uses bands 25, 26 and 41 for LTE so the D821 has no way to get LTE either.
So i just bought a LG G PRO 2 checked it everything seemed to work fine
But then i realized the network connection drops every few mins and reconnects only to a G signal (2G)
so upon further investigation i discover that the band frequency on this model is CDMA eg. USA + Canada
To say im P*&^ed off is an understatement clearly the person who sold me this is aware and is now ignoring any contact i try to make with him
I have contacted LG to see if i can possible purchase a motherboard for model D837 or D838 as i see this is my only option to get the device working
Unless anyone here can advise otherwise
Once i go into the band selection screen and disable CDMA bands it seems to sustain a stable connection but only to a 2G network haven't been into a 4G area as of yet to test but it is completely incapable of connection to a 3G frequency within the uk which i will be connected to 80% of the time
not 100% with the F350 but the frequencies for it should be:
2G: GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz
3G: UMTS 2100 MHz
4G: LTE 850 / 1800 MHz
2G is fine, as UK uses 900/1800.
3G: all UK networks at 2100.
4G: only EE/3 use the 1800MHz frequency. no-one uses 850 in UK.
look around the forum for the secret menu and see if you need to enable 3G/4G manually. or do a manual firmware update.
,My Wife has an F320S (G2)and she can enable all Bands in the Hidden Menu and works fine in Europe in Austria.Network Operator is Three (HG3).
I think the F350S is the same.
Go to Dialer and tipe 5457#*350#
in Modem Settings can you aktivate all Bands what you need
I hope this works for you.
Thanks for the reply guys
There's loads of settings in the hidden menu
I cant see how changing anything in here will help as it is a CDMA device which means it physically does not have the necessary hardware to connect to a 3G network in the UK
As it uses a totally different technology than UMTS
Ive discovered at WCDMA is actually UMTS so i cant see why it doesn't work ?
manemzjum said:
Ive discovered at WCDMA is actually UMTS so i cant see why it doesn't work ?
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WCDMA Channel-Full
Band Selection-Automatic
Rat Mode-Automatic
The Phone reboot automatic when use this Settings
letschky said:
WCDMA Channel-Full
Band Selection-Automatic
Rat Mode-Automatic
The Phone reboot automatic when use this Settings
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Those are the default settings that the device is on so no joy with that thanks anyway
using my EE sim signal drops frequently using my daughters O2 sim it seems to sustain a connection but again only to 2G network
Clearly the problem is the WCDMA bands on the device are 850 / 1900 / 2100 while 2100 is used here 900 is the more widely available and thus incompatible with device
I think my only option is to sell it on but to who its no use to anyone in the UK really
manemzjum said:
I think my only option is to sell it on but to who its no use to anyone in the UK really
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How much you selling it for?
oohaylima said:
How much you selling it for?
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Just sold on ebay for £165 but its to someone in brazil with 4 feedback
Just missed it.
It's back up as the winner was obviously a scammer
Sorry if this is an idiotic question to be asking, but here goes:
I'm going to Japan, and was planning on getting a prepaid data SIM from so-net for my stay. Here are the bands they say are needed for the device to work on the network, either on LTE or 3G.
LTE (Xi®) :
·Band 1 (2100MHz)
·Band 19 (800MHz)
·Band 21 (1500MHz)
·Band 3 (1800MHz)*Limited to the Tokyo, Nagoya, and Osaka areas
3G (FOMA®)
·Band 1 (2100MHz)
·Band 19 (800MHz)
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My question is, I know the TL-10 has some of these frequencies (band 1 and 3 for LTE, and band 1 for 3G). However, are all of them required for you to be able to connect to the network on either LTE or 3G (i.e, would I require a device with both 2100MHz and 800MHz supported to connect on a 3G signal)? Thanks in advance.
drfandroid said:
Sorry if this is an idiotic question to be asking, but here goes:
I'm going to Japan, and was planning on getting a prepaid data SIM from so-net for my stay. Here are the bands they say are needed for the device to work on the network, either on LTE or 3G.
My question is, I know the TL-10 has some of these frequencies (band 1 and 3 for LTE, and band 1 for 3G). However, are all of them required for you to be able to connect to the network on either LTE or 3G (i.e, would I require a device with both 2100MHz and 800MHz supported to connect on a 3G signal)? Thanks in advance.
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Hello, there are never idiotics questions...
All of these frequencies are not required to be able to connect to the network. The only downside is that you won't get an optimal connection in some places where frequencies are not supported by your phone. For example, in an area with only Band 19 LTE coverage, you're connection will be in 3G instead of 4G.
grofock said:
Hello, there are never idiotics questions...
All of these frequencies are not required to be able to connect to the network. The only downside is that you won't get an optimal connection in some places where frequencies are not supported by your phone. For example, in an area with only Band 19 LTE coverage, you're connection will be in 3G instead of 4G.
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Cheers for the reply :good: I was led to believe you needed multiple bands to connect, because Wind Mobile here in Canada requires both 1700 and 2100 MHz supported on a device for it to be compatible with the network.
Hi,
my name is Andrea and first of all thanks to give me your attention.
I'm in europe, italy, and was watching Z3 model d6683, it's for chinese market i guess, particular version of dual sim model. Now, i've two sim, the operator is "3 italia", and its signal is from 3g to 4g (if the area is covered by 2g signal only, i go in roaming signal, and can't surf etc). Now, i'm looking for a dual sim phone, and both sim have to get at least 3g signal at the same time. I'm not asking to surf with both sim at the same time, and i'm not asking "dual active", not interested if when i call, the other sim goes airplane mode. I'm asking if Sony Xperia Z3 model d6683 has two sim can get both at least in 3g mode during standby and always in general, cause i surf with one sim, i call with the other one, but this last don't want to go roaming all the time. Hope it's clear.
I can get this particular model because an Eshop has it online, but first need to know this problem.
Hope it can, and battery can last in any case.
Or if you know some other phones...
Thanks
None has it?
Help please, if you know this model can do what im looking for, or just another phone..
Thanks
Bro i also have D6683 in which one sim will work as 4G and other as 2G.
Hope i have helped you
niks20 said:
Bro i also have D6683 in which one sim will work as 4G and other as 2G.
Hope i have helped you
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So the second one can't get higher than 2g? Are you sure, could be the operator..or is just the phone? And if you put sim 1 to 3g, the second always max 2g?
Thanks a lot, some people told me this phone could be the only one to do what i'm looking for, but i guess it doesn't exist.
|Renovatio| said:
So the second one can't get higher than 2g? Are you sure, could be the operator..or is just the phone? And if you put sim 1 to 3g, the second always max 2g?
Thanks a lot, some people told me this phone could be the only one to do what i'm looking for, but i guess it doesn't exist.
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D6683 is designed specifically for the Chinese market. It uses bands that are incompatible with rest of the world, therefore, it would be mostly useless anywhere else.
The following is from xperiablog.net:
Sony Xperia Z3 Dual TD (D6683) network support
– Dual SIM version which supports TD-LTE in China
– 4G FDD LTE: Band 1 (2100), Band 3 (1800), Band 7 (2600)
– 4G TD-LTE: Band 28 (2600 CMCC),Band 39 (1900), Band 40 (2300), Band 41 (2600 Unicom)
czguy said:
D6683 is designed specifically for the Chinese market. It uses bands that are incompatible with rest of the world, therefore, it would be mostly useless anywhere else.
Following is from xperiablog.net
Sony Xperia Z3 Dual TD (D6683) network support
– Dual SIM version which supports TD-LTE in China
– 4G FDD LTE: Band 1 (2100), Band 3 (1800), Band 7 (2600)
– 4G TD-LTE: Band 28 (2600 CMCC),Band 39 (1900), Band 40 (2300), Band 41 (2600 Unicom)
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Fdd are here in europe, my operator cover 1800 and 2600 lte. Maybe Tdd too.
But could be enough the fact to support just 3g, but the important would be both sim can get up to that at the same time. I'm just asking this.
|Renovatio| said:
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Fdd are here in europe, my operator cover 1800 and 2600 lte. Maybe Tdd too.
But could be enough the fact to support just 3g, but the important would be both sim can get up to that at the same time. I'm just asking this.
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The only way to make sure is to test it. When I went to China last month my Z3 Dual worked nicely on Unicom's 2600 band. The first time I've read about D6683, I've got really excited until I've found out that it does not support bands used on North American continent wich makes is useless as a world phone to me. If you plan to use it in Europe only, there is a chance that it will work for you. I was not able to find out what 3G bands D6683 supports because the situation there is quite messy. Chinese 3G network is 80% incompatible for rest of the world, the only network that works with foreign phones is Unicom. It's very similar in Japan as well. Understanding that this phone is targeted for the Chinese market, I am pretty sure that it would be useless in North America (and most likely in Europe as well) on 3G bands. Luckily, with the proliferation of LTE networks while 2G is being slowly phased out, we are going to see more phones supporting simultaneous LTE on both SIMs soon.
czguy said:
The only way to make sure is to test it. When I went to China last month my Z3 Dual worked nicely on Unicom's 2600 band. The first time I've read about D6683, I've got really excited until I've found out that it does not support bands used on North American continent wich makes is useless as a world phone to me. If you plan to use it in Europe only, there is a chance that it will work for you. I was not able to find out what 3G bands D6683 supports because the situation there is quite messy. Chinese 3G network is 80% incompatible for rest of the world, the only network that works with foreign phones is Unicom. It's very similar in Japan as well. Understanding that this phone is targeted for the Chinese market, I am pretty sure that it would be useless in North America (and most likely in Europe as well) on 3G bands. Luckily, with the proliferation of LTE networks while 2G is being slowly phased out, we are going to see more phones supporting simultaneous LTE on both SIMs soon.
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Of course stay in Europe lol.
But i do not care the fact could not work here, as the fact I want it to support 3g at least at same time.
I guess user niks answerd the question, but i asked to check a few things via mp. But probaly he's right, the phone could show if, after you set connection on sim 1, could support 3g signal on second one. It's impossibile, i have to admit
|Renovatio| said:
Of course stay in Europe lol.
But i do not care the fact could not work here, as the fact I want it to support 3g at least at same time.
I guess user niks answerd the question, but i asked to check a few things via mp. But probaly he's right, the phone could show if, after you set connection on sim 1, could support 3g signal on second one. It's impossibile, i have to admit
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This is what I was able to find out about D6683 and band support for 3G slightly differs based on where you look:
2G/Voice Bands 850/900/1800/1900
3G/HSPA Bands 850/900/1700/1900
LTE Bands 1/3/7/38/39/40/41
http://www.expansys.ca/sony-xperia-z3-dual-td-d6683-unlocked-lte-16gb-copper-278237/
2G GSM
3G WCDMA 850 + 900 + 2100
4G TDD LTE B38 + B40
4G FDD LTE B3 + B7
http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/intro/5146/sony-xperia-z3-dual-td/
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network FDD LTE : Band 1 (2100), Band 3 (1800), Band 7 (2600)
TD-LTE : Band 28 (2600 CMCC), Band 39 (1900), Band 40 (2300), Band 41 (2600 Unicom)
http://supero.co.nz/sony-xperia-z3-dual-td-d6683-16gb-lte-black/
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 850/900/1700/1900/2100
TD-LTE (Band 38, 39, 40, 41) FD-LTE (Bands 1, 3, 7)
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Xperia-D6683-Factory-Unlocked/dp/B00YDIEC9A
czguy said:
This is what I was able to find out about D6683 and band support for 3G slightly differs based on where you look:
2G/Voice Bands 850/900/1800/1900
3G/HSPA Bands 850/900/1700/1900
LTE Bands 1/3/7/38/39/40/41
http://www.expansys.ca/sony-xperia-z3-dual-td-d6683-unlocked-lte-16gb-copper-278237/
2G GSM
3G WCDMA 850 + 900 + 2100
4G TDD LTE B38 + B40
4G FDD LTE B3 + B7
http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/intro/5146/sony-xperia-z3-dual-td/
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network FDD LTE : Band 1 (2100), Band 3 (1800), Band 7 (2600)
TD-LTE : Band 28 (2600 CMCC), Band 39 (1900), Band 40 (2300), Band 41 (2600 Unicom)
http://supero.co.nz/sony-xperia-z3-dual-td-d6683-16gb-lte-black/
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 850/900/1700/1900/2100
TD-LTE (Band 38, 39, 40, 41) FD-LTE (Bands 1, 3, 7)
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Xperia-D6683-Factory-Unlocked/dp/B00YDIEC9A
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Thank you. Maybe we re not understanding each other.
I think it can support 3g and even 4g here. My question is when one sim is on 3g/4g,the other one goes 3g? Not to connect data to surf, just about quality, frequency.. at least..
I'm looking one phone it can do it. Seems does not exist.
|Renovatio| said:
Thank you. Maybe we re not understanding each other.
I think it can support 3g and even 4g here. My question is when one sim is on 3g/4g,the other one goes 3g? Not to connect data to surf, just about quality, frequency.. at least..
I'm looking one phone it can do it. Seems does not exist.
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I do understand what you mean. It would have to be tested, however, there is a very good chance that it might since D6683 can simultaneously run on LTE bands using both SIMs which no Z3 Dual (D6633) can do. Most of the networks in Canada where I live use 3G for voice (same in Australia) and regular Z3 Dual is useless in such scenario, however, there is a chance it would work fine with D6683 which would become a dual SIM phone to go to except LTE bands.
Hope it can. Maybe will buy one to test it,directly.
Ok, Sony America and Sony China say it can't, as user niks wrote.
A Shop wrote on the sony z3 product crearly it can.
Will write to that Shop and to sony hong kong for the last time.
I don't know where to find my D6683 stock rom HELPPPP...!!!
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