[NVIDIA SHIELD] BT.2020 to BT.709, external PGS .sup, 23.976Hz - MX Player

Dear Friends
I own MX Player Pro and NVIDIA SHIELD. At the moment I use Kodi.
1. I own Epson EH-TW5300, which is still BT.709 (I would like to change it to Epson EH-TW9400 in the near future with BT.2020). I own backups of my physical BD and UHD on HDD. I would like to know, if there will be working in MX Player Pro conversion from BT.2020 to BT.709 on NVIDIA SHIELD. Will colors not be washed out, when watching movie with BT.2020 on my projector with BT.709?
2. I have lots of backups of my physical BD and UHD on my HDD, I have extracted PGS .sup files. Will MX Player Pro support external
PGS .sup files?
3. BD or UHD movies use 23.976Hz. Will MX Player Pro support 23.976Hz? Will it auto change to this framerate?
Thank you in advance for your help and support.
Sincerely

VAMET said:
Dear Friends
1. I own Epson EH-TW5300, which is still BT.709 (I would like to change it to Epson EH-TW9400 in the near future with BT.2020). I own backups of my physical BD and UHD on HDD. I would like to know, if there will be working in MX Player Pro conversion from BT.2020 to BT.709 on NVIDIA SHIELD. Will colors not be washed out, when watching movie with BT.2020 on my projector with BT.709?
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Unfortunately, it is not possible to BT.2020 to BT.709 without any loss. BT.2020 is capable of handling a much wider range of colours than BT.709. So, obviously, there will be some losses. However, we will highlight your request with our relevant team and will explore for the possibilities of proving an improved user experience.
VAMET said:
2. I have lots of backups of my physical BD and UHD on my HDD, I have extracted PGS .sup files. Will MX Player Pro support external
PGS .sup files?
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With regards to your query on external PSG files, You can already load the external PGS subs manually on the latest version of the MX Player. if you are facing any issues with that, kindly provide us with more information. We will investigate it further and get it sorted for you.
VAMET said:
3. BD or UHD movies use 23.976Hz. Will MX Player Pro support 23.976Hz? Will it auto change to this framerate?
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Yes. It can play movies encoded at 23.976fps seamlessly. But, the auto frame rate switching is not yet available on MX.

Dear MXPlayer
MXPlayer said:
Unfortunately, it is not possible to BT.2020 to BT.709 without any loss. BT.2020 is capable of handling a much wider range of colours than BT.709. So, obviously, there will be some losses. However, we will highlight your request with our relevant team and will explore for the possibilities of proving an improved user experience.
With regards to your query on external PSG files, You can already load the external PGS subs manually on the latest version of the MX Player. if you are facing any issues with that, kindly provide us with more information. We will investigate it further and get it sorted for you.
Yes. It can play movies encoded at 23.976fps seamlessly. But, the auto frame rate switching is not yet available on MX.
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I realize that, there will be loss in conversion BT.2020 to BT.709, but there is application for PC called madVR, which is also doing such conversion from HDR to SDR and movies with HDR looks amazing on SDR capable display, no washed out colors at all. I would be glad, if you will add such feature to your MX Player Pro.
I have not installed yet MX Player Pro on NVIDIA SHIELD, I have just ask about such feature support. So you have a big +, because Kodi doesn't support external PGS .sup files.
It also would be good, if you will add auto framerate settings. It's hard to change display settings to 23.976Hz everytime I would like to watch such videos.
I forgot to ask about support of audio bitstream of Dolby TrueHD/Dolby Atmos, DTS-HD Master Audio/DTS:X? Is it possible with MX Player Pro?
Thank you in advance for your great support.
Sincerely

VAMET said:
I realize that, there will be loss in conversion BT.2020 to BT.709, but there is application for PC called madVR, which is also doing such conversion from HDR to SDR and movies with HDR looks amazing on SDR capable display, no washed out colors at all. I would be glad, if you will add such feature to your MX Player Pro.
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Thanks for the info. MadVR is a DirectShow filter and is not available for the Android platform. However, we will investigate further possible improvements on HDR -> SDR playback.
VAMET said:
It also would be good, if you will add auto framerate settings. It's hard to change display settings to 23.976Hz everytime I would like to watch such videos.
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In general, there is no need to change the frame rate until or unless you face some issues. MX Player uses the VSYNC methods suggested on the android documentation. So, rendering should be seamless in most of the conditions.
VAMET said:
I forgot to ask about support of audio bitstream of Dolby TrueHD/Dolby Atmos, DTS-HD Master Audio/DTS:X? Is it possible with MX Player Pro?
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Yes. MX Player supports the audio passthrough. It will be automatically enabled if the receiver reports it's audio capability properly.

Dear MXPlayer
MXPlayer said:
Thanks for the info. MadVR is a DirectShow filter and is not available for the Android platform. However, we will investigate further possible improvements on HDR -> SDR playback.
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In Kodi for NVIDIA SHIELD, there is Mediacodec and Mediacodec Surface, if both of them are disabled, then HDR to SDR is perfect, no washed out colors, but the movie playback of 2160p 23.976 BT.2020 10bit is choppy, not smooth. Maybe this will be a tip for your Team.
MXPlayer said:
In general, there is no need to change the frame rate until or unless you face some issues. MX Player uses the VSYNC methods suggested on the android documentation. So, rendering should be seamless in most of the conditions.
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I will check it, but why it's such problem to add this feature to MX Player Pro, all other players for NVIDIA SHIELD has already such option?
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Yes. MX Player supports the audio passthrough. It will be automatically enabled if the receiver reports it's audio capability properly.
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Thank you very much, I have already tested Dolby Atmos.
As for your last statement with support of external PGS .sup files, there are some .sup files, that are not recognized. I have tested them with MPC-HC on PC and everything is OK with them, only MX Player Pro has got such problem. All of them are extracted the same way via MKVToolnix.
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Hello all,
I have begun to convert some avi files I have, so they can run on my Xoom. At present I am using Imtoo Video Converter 7 with the Xoom H.264 profile. What I am seeing is that the size of the converted video is approximately 3 times larger than the original avi. Is this normal?
Thanks,
Steve
Why bother?
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stevefxp said:
Hello all,
I have begun to convert some avi files I have, so they can run on my Xoom. At present I am using Imtoo Video Converter 7 with the Xoom H.264 profile. What I am seeing is that the size of the converted video is approximately 3 times larger than the original avi. Is this normal?
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Steve
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Here is Moto's guidelines on formats and rates supported.
https://motorola-global-portal.cust...3258/~/motorola-xoom---optimal-video-settings
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stevefxp said:
Hello all,
I have begun to convert some avi files I have, so they can run on my Xoom. At present I am using Imtoo Video Converter 7 with the Xoom H.264 profile. What I am seeing is that the size of the converted video is approximately 3 times larger than the original avi. Is this normal?
Thanks,
Steve
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Maybe the avi files are more compressed than what you're converting to. I use Rock Player it will play files that MX Player won't.
al mon said:
Why bother?
Use MX Player Pro and it plays AVI fine. In fact, I stream this from my NAS and play all kinds of video formats using MX Player Pro.
No conversion needed.
There are many video players as well.
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+1 here. I use mx pro with MediaHouse to stream from my dlna server. Only problem is the high profile stuff. I have a massive collection of teh prawnz all in wmv and mx plays them nicely
+1 for MX. Swipe to ff/rw was enough to get me to try it, the 3 decode options made me keep it. If a video won't play, long press on the file, and you can choose between hw/sw/sw fast decode. So far, I haven't found a video that fails all 3.
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stevefxp said:
Hello all,
I have begun to convert some avi files I have, so they can run on my Xoom. At present I am using Imtoo Video Converter 7 with the Xoom H.264 profile. What I am seeing is that the size of the converted video is approximately 3 times larger than the original avi. Is this normal?
Thanks,
Steve
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It is quite normal for re-encodes to end up bigger than the original due to it trying to up-scale the video/audio. Like others in the thread, i suggest using MX player for avi's (never had any problems with them,) or using Handbrake to downscale/re-encode/etc 1080i/p videos to something that the Xoom can handle easier. I have had problems with high resolution mkv's (even sometimes 720p) even in MX.

4K Video Playback with HEVC - 10bit

Hello everyone,
I have a few questions regarding 4K videos. I tried playing a 4K H265 10bit video on the phone using the native Sony Video app and, although it did play, it was slow as heck. Does the phone support such videos natively (i.e. Hardware Accelarated playback)? Is it an issue of the app itself? Since almost all 4k content, with or with HDR/10bit, is in H265 are we limited to Youtube and Amazon for 4K playback? Do I have to transcode all my 4K Blu-Ray movies to H264 in order to play them? Are there any third party players (e.g. bsplayer) that can play 4k videos (and utilize the phone's 4k resolution, not just play them in 1080p). Thank you all for your time.
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Worked perfectly. Smooth as butter.
fartyparty said:
i downloaded a 4k test sample encoded in x265 and played it with mx player app with hardware acceleration.
Worked perfectly. Smooth as butter.
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use mx player
Thanks a lot for your time. It seems that mx player does not use the phone's native 4K resolution though and displays a 1920x1080 image so there is no point in using it. My question is whether a video player app exists, besides Sony's native one, that is able to use the phone's 4K resolution, not just play 4K videos.
Liltman said:
Thanks a lot for your time. It seems that mx player does not use the phone's native 4K resolution though and displays a 1920x1080 image so there is no point in using it. My question is whether a video player app exists, besides Sony's native one, that is able to use the phone's 4K resolution, not just play 4K videos.
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I think you can change the phones overall resolution to 4K for that purpose: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xz-premium/themes/mod-change-default-resolution-to-4k-root-t3618843
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Liltman said:
Thanks a lot for your time. It seems that mx player does not use the phone's native 4K resolution though and displays a 1920x1080 image so there is no point in using it. My question is whether a video player app exists, besides Sony's native one, that is able to use the phone's 4K resolution, not just play 4K videos.
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Tried with Sony Xperia Video app and the 4K sample I downloaded runs the same as it runs in MX Player.
kot5nik said:
I think you can change the phones overall resolution to 4K for that purpose: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xz-premium/themes/mod-change-default-resolution-to-4k-root-t3618843
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Kot5nik, in my opinion, changing the resolution that android runs is not the proper way to go. Since XZ Premium is a device that supports 4k/HDR i shouldn't have to resort to "adb" to watch a 4k video in another app. Plus, by doing that, battery drain increases a bit, phone dialer app does not work, app switching does not show thumbnails etc.
FartyParty said:
Tried with Sony Xperia Video app and the 4K sample I downloaded runs the same as it runs in MX Player.
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FartyParty, I stand corrected. You are absolutely right. I took screenshots of both MX and Sony apps and the look identical. Only one difference though. It seems that MX Player doest not utilize HDR. There is a noticeable difference in contrast. You can see the attachments if you want to.
Liltman said:
Hello everyone,
I have a few questions regarding 4K videos. I tried playing a 4K H265 10bit video on the phone using the native Sony Video app and, although it did play, it was slow as heck. Does the phone support such videos natively (i.e. Hardware Accelarated playback)? Is it an issue of the app itself? Since almost all 4k content, with or with HDR/10bit, is in H265 are we limited to Youtube and Amazon for 4K playback? Do I have to transcode all my 4K Blu-Ray movies to H264 in order to play them? Are there any third party players (e.g. bsplayer) that can play 4k videos (and utilize the phone's 4k resolution, not just play them in 1080p). Thank you all for your time.
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Here is what i found from testing the device for 4K HDR videos
the device can and will play 4K H265 10bit and even HDR videos but there are things that need to be done to play perfectly
first you need to check for the containers to be mkv or mp4
second using sony app will not allow to play surround sound file like dts, ac3, AAC 5.1 or AAC 7.1
third which i think is very odd and stupid from sony is that how such a powerful device can't play mkv with AAC sound track no matter what stereo or surround.
The trick for this to use software where they can switch container without the need for converting the whole file from mkv to mp4.
Hi everyone,
I have to also agree with @Liltman and say that the MX Player does play video content in 4k however there is a very noticeable difference between the stock Sony album player and the MX player.
Sadly the Sony video player doesn't support truehd aac files so the video will play flawlessly without the sound :crying:
The MX Player on the other hand WILL play the sound but the quality of the video seems to take a small hit as it's not as vibrant as the Sony album player. This is because MX Player supports 4k but not HDR
I hope that Sony added codecs to make TrueHD sound files compatible with the Sony gallery player on Oreo but I am not very confident about that.
I would appreciate it if someone can find a way around this annoying issue. What software is @HYPER-RX referring to?
Thanks!
Try VLC guys. When I played an HDR video in VLC it tried to force my brightness to max like YouTube does. However, it had to ask for som system write permission to do it and it didnt work completely. See if VLC does a better job though I found it to be pretty good.
MX Player definitely does support HDR. You can tell because in HDR videos, if you try taking a screenshot, the screenshot will simply come out as black, whereas in SDR videos, you'll get a normal screenshot.
RJASSI21 said:
Try VLC guys. When I played an HDR video in VLC it tried to force my brightness to max like YouTube does. However, it had to ask for som system write permission to do it and it didnt work completely. See if VLC does a better job though I found it to be pretty good.
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Hi I just tried VLC and you was spot on. I can see that it actually does support HDR however I'm still having audio issues with the sound. Especially the HEVC Atmos 7.1. Do I need to download a codec pack or something?
It's a shame because the video quality is incredible!
Working perfectly
I tried to play 4k hdr 60fps video using the sony video app. I had no issues with playing it. It was smooth no lags at all.
codec was hevc and bitrate was 75Mbps and audio was AAC.
nirai06 said:
I tried to play 4k hdr 60fps video using the sony video app. I had no issues with playing it. It was smooth no lags at all.
codec was hevc and bitrate was 75Mbps and audio was AAC.
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Thanks was this on Oreo? And the sound file was it 5.1 or 7.1?

Zoom video to fiil screen not working on HW/HW+ mode, Android TV

Hi everyone! I'm having a problem when I try to zoom in any video to fill the screen and eliminate the black bars on movies for example. I'm only getting a stretched video, not being able to get a proper uniform zoom, except when I select the software decoder. The problem is that some 4K videos can't be played smoothly on SW mode and also I lose the audio passthrough. I know this was once mentioned possibly as a hardware limitation, am I right?? I'm using the app on a TV with Android TV 6. The reported hardware SoC is a MediaTek MT5891 (Mali T-860 GPU). Any help would be much appreciated! Thanks!
C'mon guys, at least tell me there's nothing you can do about it!
emacrack said:
C'mon guys, at least tell me there's nothing you can do about it!
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Yes, It looks like a hardware feature of the TV Boxes. MX Just uses android APIs. It doesn't work properly once any one of the sides reaches the screen limit & starts stretching when you zoom more. In our internal tests, Mi Box used to have similar issues. But, there are no such issues after Oreo update Zoom works properly on all three decoders.
Thirumalai.K said:
Yes, It looks like a hardware feature of the TV Boxes. MX Just uses android APIs. It doesn't work properly once any one of the sides reaches the screen limit & starts stretching when you zoom more. In our internal tests, Mi Box used to have similar issues. But, there are no such issues after Oreo update Zoom works properly on all three decoders.
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Thanks man! I've got a pending update from Android TV 6 to 7 so, maybe it'll work with it.
Hi everyone.
This may be a solution.
I get to realise that this thread has a long history and there is no proper answer.
I too had the same problem while using MX player in Android tv. But some video are able to crop view. After many thoughts I get to realise that there are two kind of popular encoding in mkv format.
Videos encoded in H.264 have no problem. But if it is H.265 commonly known as HEVC it will no crop or zoom in.
I currently use H.264 video for maximum use of my tv screen.
Please Google these encoding method for better understanding. There are some interesting comparison between two.
Happy watching
Bitumon3 said:
Hi everyone.
This may be a solution.
I get to realise that this thread has a long history and there is no proper answer.
I too had the same problem while using MX player in Android tv. But some video are able to crop view. After many thoughts I get to realise that there are two kind of popular encoding in mkv format.
Videos encoded in H.264 have no problem. But if it is H.265 commonly known as HEVC it will no crop or zoom in.
I currently use H.264 video for maximum use of my tv screen.
Please Google these encoding method for better understanding. There are some interesting comparison between two.
Happy watching
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There is a video which is encoded in hevc .how can we strech it . Do you have any solution for it ..is there any other player which can resolve the problem

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Hello,
I'm a registered user of MX Player (MX Player Pro) and I miss this feature on my NVIDIA SHIELD TV. NVIDIA is not going to add automatic frame rate switching because they say this feature should be implemented in each video application, not in firmware. MX Player is the video player with the best picture quality I have ever seen, but this feature is necessary on NSTV because we have to set the frame rate manually in Settings for each video file.
Thank you. Best regards.
I need this function for Amazon Fire TV 4K too. Please implement this, if possible. Hint: The SmartYouTubeTV app (free on github) has working AFR.
Please implement this feature! The Vimu Player, Plex, Emby works better!
djnice77 said:
Please implement this feature! The Vimu Player, Plex, Emby works better!
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or KMplayer.
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