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Hello to all ,
Well i was jus siting and looking at all the ROMs around so jus gave it a thought that can;t we have a thread where is we post the name of all the current running ROMs for Kaiser which is most prefered and feedback to the chef to make it better..
i know i am really a Jr. to think so much for as i jus have a a new Kaiser.
But then jus give it a thought and post the ROM which is in your Kaiser/TYTN II / TILT ... and the one you feel is great..
vikasraj said:
Hello to all ,
Well i was jus siting and looking at all the ROMs around so jus gave it a thought that can;t we have a thread where is we post the name of all the current running ROMs for Kaiser which is most prefered and feedback to the chef to make it better..
i know i am really a Jr. to think so much for as i jus have a a new Kaiser.
But then jus give it a thought and post the ROM which is in your Kaiser/TYTN II / TILT ... and the one you feel is great..
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It's all down to personal opinion, there are plenty ROM's to choose from, flash flash & flash till you find the one that you like...
You can aslo just check people sigs and the chefs get comments in there threads.
Hi, we are currently discussing the pros and cons of such a thread in the "About" forum here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466666
At the moment I am using PDACorner v14. A lot of members post their ROM versions in their signatures.
As I said in the other thread, this sort of discussion is very subjective. I'd recommend you watch the forum and try some of the newer ROM's to get a feel for what you like. That's how I do it
Ta
Dave
I truely agree to what you say we aren't here to make others decide and impose the ROMs we like but to express our experience to the ROM we are using... and why we like the ROM we are using...
vikasraj said:
I truely agree to what you say we aren't here to make others decide and impose the ROMs we like but to express our experience to the ROM we are using... and why we like the ROM we are using...
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If everyone was as mature as you then we wouldn't have a problem, and we wouldn't need moderators
Until then we have to keep a close eye on these discussions before they decend into all out madness.
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Dave
I certainly agree this Dave...
Hats off to your work....
since ive been a member i personally think anyone who spends ther time to cook up and share with us all deserve a pat on back [or a donation how ever small]and like it says in first of any posts...search search...search
I recommend closing this thread... This is NOT a chat room... There are plenty of reading material in every Cooked ROM thread, that would enhance anybody's knowledge of which ROM people are using or not using and WHY...
My thing is, I am rather new to the ROM-flashing thing. I've quickly learned alot about how to do all this, and now what I'm lacking is a cohesive sense of what ROMs are out there that I can try on my phone - I haven't the time or the inclination to scroll through dozens of pages back through the Kaiser forum looking for ROMs to try. It would be nice to have a single sticky thread where all the available Kaiser ROMs are listed (in the Kaiser forum, and other similar threads for other phones in the other forums) that just hyperlink to the appropriate thread for each ROM.
What that gives the Noob especially is a list of all the ROMs they can try. I'm just guessing that I've seen even 1% of the available ROMs. I have no idea if I'm choosing one I really like, or one I settle on because I can't find the rest.
It's really little more than a question of convenience. By having a single list of all the available Kaiser ROMs, it makes it easy for me to look at them all and choose one. Such a thread does not need any discussion to be allowed, it's just a source of information. If people want to discuss a ROM, they can discuss it in the thread that is linked to from the main list.
Does this make sense?
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My thing is, I am rather new to the ROM-flashing thing. I've quickly learned alot about how to do all this, and now what I'm lacking is a cohesive sense of what ROMs are out there that I can try on my phone - I haven't the time or the inclination to scroll through dozens of pages back through the Kaiser forum looking for ROMs to try. It would be nice to have a single sticky thread where all the available Kaiser ROMs are listed (in the Kaiser forum, and other similar threads for other phones in the other forums) that just hyperlink to the appropriate thread for each ROM.
What that gives the Noob especially is a list of all the ROMs they can try. I'm just guessing that I've seen even 1% of the available ROMs. I have no idea if I'm choosing one I really like, or one I settle on because I can't find the rest.
It's really little more than a question of convenience. By having a single list of all the available Kaiser ROMs, it makes it easy for me to look at them all and choose one. Such a thread does not need any discussion to be allowed, it's just a source of information. If people want to discuss a ROM, they can discuss it in the thread that is linked to from the main list.
Does this make sense?
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Have you tried the wiki page
Ta
Dave
Apologise to those who think of closing the post but my intension was jus to let every express the ROM they use cause not every one uses the ROM anD Radio VER on there signatures..
Also it would let know that who uses which ROM , I am sorry to see that this is driven into a conterversy ..
Trolling for regulars
vikasraj dont worry mate this board is chock full of regulars who belive that anyone who comes here should read every single post, of course it is perfectly reasonable to ask for a quick list of popular roms but that would be far too easy and lets face it give the sad regulars nothing much to read, I wouldn't pay too much attention to the regular users here apart from the flashing info, they really don't add much apart from stupid pointless 'read the board' comments, I am here to find a new rom (the last one all the regs said was great is buggy as hell) and yes a rom chart would have saved a lot of time. Like you I have a life.
Forum a dictionary meaning
A medium of open discussion or voicing of ideas
Did not the original message fall into this meaning.
By its very nature the posting of Roms is trying to compete with other roms.
So a thread that simply rates roms would be a good idea and give constructive comment and possibily the sort of feedback the rom builders are looking for and why they do what they do.
It would also help those that want to extend their experience, and not get frighten away by high minded comment.
Thats All
I suggest thread starter to just see the benchmarking of Kaiser ROM's done by one of Our friends out there in the kaiser forum. I will provide link whenever I get it but its better for now to search yourself for it. Go by facts & not by values. Hope it will help you. Good luck. I think we should move forward to help cookers in making ROM better.
Sorry but I could able to find only these ones.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369796
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358788
Hope that is going to help the posters in some way. Cheers my friends. Forum doesn't mean only discussions it means to work as a team to make great things out of our dumbo brains. Cheers & happy new year.
Br.
Saksham Katyal
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vikasraj dont worry mate this board is chock full of regulars who belive that anyone who comes here should read every single post, of course it is perfectly reasonable to ask for a quick list of popular roms but that would be far too easy and lets face it give the sad regulars nothing much to read, I wouldn't pay too much attention to the regular users here apart from the flashing info, they really don't add much apart from stupid pointless 'read the board' comments, I am here to find a new rom (the last one all the regs said was great is buggy as hell) and yes a rom chart would have saved a lot of time. Like you I have a life.
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lol, funny stuff
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lol, funny stuff
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I see that editing came into play...LOL. I read the original.
SHAMELESS Self Promotion below.....
for all of you that want a nice speedy, stable rom--come try this one out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=463284
theblueeyz said:
It's really little more than a question of convenience. By having a single list of all the available Kaiser ROMs, it makes it easy for me to look at them all and choose one. Such a thread does not need any discussion to be allowed, it's just a source of information. If people want to discuss a ROM, they can discuss it in the thread that is linked to from the main list.
Does this make sense?
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Yup - it already exists, here.
It doesn't say much about the roms, but it's a fairly comprehensive list.
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Hi, we are currently discussing the pros and cons of such a thread in the "About" forum here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466666
At the moment I am using PDACorner v14. A lot of members post their ROM versions in their signatures.
As I said in the other thread, this sort of discussion is very subjective. I'd recommend you watch the forum and try some of the newer ROM's to get a feel for what you like. That's how I do it
Ta
Dave
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Why are we doing this again ? I understand that people are (especially it seems the noobs ) incredibly lazy. No one wants to do their homework, no one wants to test drive. no one wants to think. Everyone wants someone else(no matter what their qualifications) to tell them what is the best.
The chefs here do not make these roms for you or me. They make these roms for the challenge and for themselves and then they share them with us. How offensive would it then be , to subject them to a competition .
It would be like going to a Hot Rod or Custom car show and judging people's hours , months or years of artistic and engineering work with a dismissive " that one sucks, not enough cup holders " guess what ? It wasn't built for you, it was shared with you. Your opinions are yours, why should chefs be forced to confront these ( mostly uninfomed opinions ) in a public forum.
Every rom has it's own thread to rate and evaluate the rom, and to try to work out whether it is the rom that is at fault or the user.That is more than enough discussion for the chefs to improve the rom.
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(the last one all the regs said was great is buggy as hell)
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Although getting some people to actually do this .........( with 7 total posts ) one wonders how much effort was put into identifying the source of these " bugs ."
These are the type of comments we want our chefs to be subject to on a concentrated thread ?
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vikasraj dont worry mate this board is chock full of regulars who believe that anyone who comes here should read every single post, of course it is perfectly reasonable to ask for a quick list of popular roms but that would be far too easy and lets face it give the sad regulars nothing much to read
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I got A's in college , because I read and did my homework. Of course many others graduated too by using someone elses notes.
mcstussy said:
I wouldn't pay too much attention to the regular users here apart from the flashing info, they really don't add much apart from stupid pointless 'read the board' comments
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Translation : It is all about me..me..me.. for free...free.. free.. To all you people who have contributed to this forum for years, if there is nothing that you can give me...me...me..now..now...now for free...free...free... then you all suck and keep your opinions to yourself.
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I have a life.
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And I am not wasting it doing *THIS*
Dave, if you are asking, I vote no, for subjecting our much appreciated chefs. to a beauty contest or prom king type thread for the benefit of the "lazy "
Just my opinion. Thanks for listening
this would be fine topic in the Kaiser generall forum. (alot of the people who hate these types of threads cluttering up the boards like myself dont generally read the generall forum very often I believe)
This isa rom DEVELOPMENT forum. Ie if your not either posting a new rom in development or about the process of cooking and development.....you should not start a new thread here. The Kaiser generall forum is a great place for this type of discussion.
also a good way to get a overall list of the most popular roms would be to sort this forum by how many posts a thread has....click at top. And that will continue to be useful as long as people only post new roms and development related topics in here.
This topic should be moved to the kaiser generall forum and it would be taken much better/ignored by the more senior members/admins
You know what would be nice, a pinned topic with all relases available with downloadable links.
No comments what so ever just a place where anyone can go and choose a version that he like and download it.
Of course small description of realses OR link to orginal topic with description.
Not a mess
Searching is the key
Have a look on my signature
And it´s better that you come with a helpful idea to improve than just criticize
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what a mess...
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it was making a point
You know what would be nice, a pinned topic with all relases available with downloadable links.
No comments what so ever just a place where anyone can go and choose a version that he like and download it.
Of course small description of realses OR link to orginal topic with description.
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helpful idea to improve NOT just criticize
and yes i know this thread form your signature
dont you think it would be a way more convinient to have a seperate thread or even section for apps? this forum is soooo big (a good thing) and really could use a good reorganizing just my point of view
It´s always nice to have new members with fresh ideas, but as we long time users, I got used to the way it is now, of course some changes would be nice and Admin are working on it, just visit the 1st sections.
So know better the site, use it, contribute and then you´ll have more idea what is really needed to improve.
Enjoy XDA!
This is why the Wiki was created. A good place for organising important things in a structured way.
sakej, please do use it and add to it, it will help us all and all future XDAers.
sure
take a look here
I felt the need to reply here so i just will do so.
I didnt wanna reply in your "Xda Apps" thread,so i'll say it here.
Don't be angry at me,but threads like that one,even if made with good intentions,are creating a mess. In my opinion.
Yes,that thread looks nice as a start,but sooner or later that thread will have 10,20,50 or 100 pages. So,when i come and wanna look for a program,what should i do. browse through these 100 pages.. or.. search. Well here is a better idea. older members here,created already in the wiki sections for free UNI programs. Why you didnt add them there ? It's all on one page,it has also some space for the description of the app. I contributed there with one app,palringo,not much but if everyone adds one,it will be pretty much complete. instead,we have a new thread/section for programs,one more now making the mess bigger,in my opinion. The way that thread started,it looks pretty much as a small start of something like http://www.freewarepocketpc.net , and there you have all. Same not tested on uni as in your "xda apps" thread. Consider this as a suggestion to try improve the existing database and system,for which,i'm sure,most of the members here think it works perfect. i'm one of them. Orb3000's sticky is perfect. Also,i even think it's great that the rom's are not put there as direct download links,rather as thread links,which is cool cuz i get with that click to remind myself what that rom is about when i see the post #1 from the creator of the rom. A direct DL link in the sticky would be bad,in my opinion. In conclusion,i came here recently as a NOOOOB,i read a lot,searched,learned the system quick,and for me it's perfect,i have no reason at all to ask any questions about anything,cuz really,all is already written and said. All in the wiki and in orb3000's sticky In my opinion
But.. i hope i'm wrong. I hope your thread becomes the real thing that we need,so good luck
PalDragan - you may be right with this one, or partial right, but theres something in it for sure
I agree with this that direct links is not a great idea and current system is better for ROMs.
About a thread getting bigger and bigger with time, true thats why I've choose to include only 10 apps in one replay so with search peolpe should get better results (if you know what i mean).
About some apps NOT being tested... since there are lots of different roms available its imposible for anyone to test a full compatibility for a device.
Maybe wiki is a better way to do it maybe you have a right, lets other ppl comment on this
Anyway since Xda Apps was started 10 ppl allready find something there for them self and its on like for 3 hours
In the wiki here, the programs are put into some thematic order. It's easier to find what you want. Also, they are all recommended from people who have run them on their Universal (with notes if ROM specific). I like the idea of a screen shot, though.
My apologies, but XDA Apps thread seems to be a semi-useful collection of bits and pieces posted on various freebie sites for the past 5 years or so and serving nothing but the OP's inflated sense of self-importance. Not sure what makes it important enough for everyone here to pay attention or make it sticky, as OP hopes. Someone is power tripping, methinks...
Why are themes mixed with applications? It's a mess...
Why can't there be one section for themes and other for applications?
I won't say it a mess but Yes, that would be better...
Agreed. There is too much stuff going on with HD2 now, and the biggest problem is the new things fall back and many of the users even don't see the new posts.
I agree.
I´ve been here since Kaiser forum was the "hottest" thing on XDA, but even that is nothing in comparison of the "hottness" of Leo's forum.
Sometimes good things almost get lost with all those topics popping out during the day.
So far, i thank RSS, but separated Apps and Themes fora would be nice.
+1 too Apps & Themes should be separated for easier view or search.
I think thats a great idea
People will still ignore the forum titles and start threads where they want to.
Take this one, for example. It should not be in the themes and apps forum of the HD2 as it has diddly-squat to do with either the HD2, themes or apps.
There is a forum for this type of conversation.
Like I said - people will post where they want. You'll just get used to it.
Saying that, you could then have a forum just for tweaks...
The idea is good.... But Johncmolineux is right, it will change nothing....
Xda is like Ali Baba's cave... It's a big mess, but a mess I finally like. At the end I always find what I'm looking for.
johncmolyneux said:
People will still ignore the forum titles and start threads where they want to.
Take this one, for example. It should not be in the themes and apps forum of the HD2 as it has diddly-squat to do with either the HD2, themes or apps.
There is a forum for this type of conversation.
Like I said - people will post where they want. You'll just get used to it.
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I've tried to find a place to post this and did not succeed. And if this is about this section, it's not that wrong to be here. But I've posted here not because I simple want but because I did not find a suggestions section. An Apps and a Thread sections inside the HD2 section of XDA will be very easy to find.
By that way of thinking we should not have 4 HD2 sections, we should only have one... since people make mistakes in where to post...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=263
That's ridiculously easy to find. You just look.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=263
That's ridiculously easy to find. You just look.
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Yeah, I've seen that. But wasn't sure if it was for suggestions about the forum. And then, if I post there probably most of the users of the HD2 sections will not see it.
DeadVirus said:
Yeah, I've seen that. But wasn't sure if it was for suggestions about the forum. And then, if I post there probably most of the users of the HD2 sections will not see it.
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Surely you're making a suggestion about the site, not the HD2, which is why you should post it in a forum that is for the site. That's all.
There's actually a thread in that forum for suggestions for the mods. That's the best place to ask a question that relates to the site.
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Surely you're making a suggestion about the site, not the HD2, which is why you should post it in a forum that is for the site. That's all.
There's actually a thread in that forum for suggestions for the mods. That's the best place to ask a question that relates to the site.
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Can anyone move this to there then?
johncmolyneux said:
People will still ignore the forum titles and start threads where they want to.
Take this one, for example. It should not be in the themes and apps forum of the HD2 as it has diddly-squat to do with either the HD2, themes or apps.
There is a forum for this type of conversation.
Like I said - people will post where they want. You'll just get used to it.
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I disagree, John.
Of course you're correct in as much as SOME people (particularly people new to the site) will always start threads where they want to. But I would say that MOST people (particularly experienced posters) stick to the rules regarding posting new threads in the correct section and those who don't quickly have the errors of their ways pointed out to them!
I also disagree that this particular thread is 'out on place' in the Themes and Apps section. The OP wanted to gauge feeling amongst current users of this section as to his suggestion of splitting the section into two. Who's going to see it if it's hidden away somewhere else on the forum?
Just my thoughts... No criticism of others' opinion meant...
Btw... I would also be in favour of a split.
I would like to see this happen too, but im sure it would be hassell for anybody that needs to get it uptodate/tidy!
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I would like to see this happen too, but im sure it would be hassell for anybody that needs to get it uptodate/tidy!
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Yes it would need some hard work... But we could keep this actual sections as the themes section for example, and then the users would report the threads that needed to be moved, that way the moderators won't need to be checking all threads...
What about having actual MODERATORS on this forum??? Cause all those topics that are made dubble and dubble each and every single day are driving everybody crazy I know that for sure!! I scroll down through one page on the forum in 1 minut cause of all the same things I am reading over and over again!
Why isn't the policy here actually being applied??? Why aren't the moderators HARSHER?? (if there are moderators cause I only have seen one here on the Leo's forums).....
I am sure 90% of the people here think like me, especialy when there ar epeople who only register to this forum to make a topic and ask a question and don't bother to search and when they got their answer never bother to look on tthis forum again.......
Really, the policy should be looked after and there should be at leaste 5 times more moderators than there are now!!!
We are missing the important threads through all the b*ll**** and sorry to say this but some people don't have time to spend hours a day on this forum! We have to work/study, I am sure many agree with me!
Hello everyone!
I usually see people refering new member as a 'noob'. They shout at new members like they should be gifted knowledge by God since their birth!
BUT, there's big difference between Noobs and New. I hope you'll understand my point of view.
Let me tell you difference as a definition:
●Noobies: These are those people who are either new or old to existing condition. But they never want to learn. They ask question like "I can't do this" instead of asking "How to do this?"
They are usually pain in the... and they are born to irritate developers. Because of them, thread gets some unnecessary posts. NO developer force any member to flash their ROM or Kernel. Developers love when people report bugs in their ROM but hey wait! There's two method of reporting (let's see two method by two examples):
1). Noobs: Useless ROM, doesn't support call recording feature.
Good members: Can you please add call recording feature in next build? Else ROM is perfect. Thank you.
2). Noobs: Why do you even make a ROM that doesn't support VoLTE? Please leave XDA. (!)
Good members: Hello, your ROM is so smooth. I have great experience so far. Just want to know if you can somehow add VoLTE in your next build. It's really a requirement in India. Thank you!
Till now, you can easily differentiate between Noobies and other members
●Newbies: These are totally new people who are new to existing condition but they always wants to gather information somehow. They always try first and search for info themselves rather than asking aimlessly.
Always remember, we were newbie too at first.
Differentiating is pretty hard here. But you've to make sure to NEVER act rudely with them. They are new, if they don't get support, they'll loose interest in Android and XDA.
The Expert in Anything was Once a Beginner
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Best you can do is that check their total post count on XDA.
Source: Wrote it myself
Simillar thread by me: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/hard-brick-soft-brick-terminology-t3598335
I must say you did a good job differentiating between noob and newbies:laugh:
It would be much better/easier to suggest all the noob user's to use XDA's search plus feature
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I must say you did a good job differentiating between noob and newbies:laugh:
It would be much better/easier to suggest all the noob user's to use XDA's search plus feature
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I really appreciate your feedback
Hello iam also a newbie I love XDA and it's support I flashed 2 costom roms and without any error thanks XDA
For those of you who don't know me, I am twistedumbrella. I have been a recognized developer on xda longer than many of the mods have been members. All this means is that I know a few things about getting the best experience when moving to a new device.
Disclaimer: This guide applies to any device, but has been posted here due to the large following and limited availability at the time of writing.
How to ask a question:
Give the reader enough information to understand what you have done, what you are willing to do, and what you are really looking to find out. If you say "I need a taco" then you are going to get a list of Taco Bell locations anywhere in the world. Asking for help with a phone is no different.
If there are four different versions and your issue is not the hardware, that is a good place to start. If you don't have a computer, then let others know. Think about what details you would need to figure out a problem with something you know and try to provide the same quality for your problem.
How to write a guide:
Make the purpose clear. If you are providing a theme for a Note 10+ that will not look or function correctly on a Note 10, that is important to specify.
Break the steps down into logical pieces. When there is a time component between actions, it is best to group them together.
Write with the mindset that nobody is going to read ahead. If you want to explain the purpose of a step and it isn't part of the action, split them up.
The average person couldn't care less why something works as long as it works. Once they hit explanation, they may skip to the next step. If more important details followed the explanation, expect that to be a missed step for a lot of people reporting issues.
How to search the forum:
This is one that a lot of people struggle with, but not because they didn't try. Everyone speaks differently and that is reflected in how you write. Think of search like adding keywords to a YouTube video. As long as all of the important words are there, the stuff between them can vary.If you want to get to recovery mode on a Samsung Galaxy Note 10, try searching "Note 10 recovery" and see if you find something. If there are a lot of results because another manufacturer also has a Note 10, then try "Galaxy Note 10 recovery" and see if that helps. On xda, you can always start by going to the section for the device, which can cut down on a lot of unrelated results.Sometimes you find the results you want in the "wrong" thread. In most cases, you get to the custom recovery the same way you would stock. There is a good chance you may still find an answer by skimming over a thread publishing a custom recovery.Be aware of the risks before taking action. Assuming we are still searching for that Note 10 recovery mode, a result from Samsung is pretty reliable. Make sure someone has verified the same information applies to your device specifically. The fastest way to brick a device is using the wrong files and there are a lot of sites and authors out there that will assume every Samsung is the same.
Please note: Samsung Galaxy Note 10 was chosen as an example because Redmi has also released a Note 10, which demonstrates some of the points.
This should be sticky.
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting or creating a new thread. Whether you have a question or just something new to share, it's very likely that someone has already asked that question or shared that news.
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