Android 9 Pie update for Nokia 7 ? - Nokia 7 Questions & Answers

Is this phone getting the Pie update ?
On the Nokia forums, some mention that there's an internal beta but no evidence is provided.
Does anyone know anything about this or have any evidence that Nokia is planning on released an update ?

Yes, it is under active development and it will be released. None of the CN phones have received Android Pie yet because the CN ROM has to include all the customization. Wait for it

singhnsk said:
Yes, it is under active development and it will be released. None of the CN phones have received Android Pie yet because the CN ROM has to include all the customization. Wait for it
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Haven't the 7 Plus, 6.1 and 6.1 Plus already received the Android Pie update in China ?
Also Nokia has rolled out an external Beta for the Nokia X7 (released this year).
Still no news released about the Nokia 7 though.
Unless there's evidence behind your claim, i think it's highly doubtful ?
For now we can assume that Android Pie support for the Nokia 7 has been dropped.

sr993 said:
Haven't the 7 Plus, 6.1 and 6.1 Plus already received the Android Pie update in China ?
Also Nokia has rolled out an external Beta for the Nokia X7 (released this year).
Still no news released about the Nokia 7 though.
Unless there's evidence behind your claim, i think it's highly doubtful ?
For now we can assume that Android Pie support for the Nokia 7 has been dropped.
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None of the Nokia phones in China have received stable Android Pie yet. All under active development. You are right about X7.

I saw beta post. Beta version for nokia 7...... Maybe it will relsed in next month

For nokia 7 its a long term process maybe we wait more next year

Yeah, with android one, you would assume timely delivery of updates.
IOS updates are generally phased within a few days regardless of geographical differences.
Nokia just made a false pledge. Receiving the pie update for China variants months later is no different from Samsung releasing an update 1 year later.

sr993 said:
Yeah, with android one, you would assume timely delivery of updates.
IOS updates are generally phased within a few days regardless of geographical differences.
Nokia just made a false pledge. Receiving the pie update for China variants months later is no different from Samsung releasing an update 1 year later.
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They dont gave us novmber security patch... Now december

Faisal kacho said:
They dont gave us novmber security patch... Now december
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Yeah, recently there was also some speculation that Nokia was delaying updates to boost sales of the latest devices. It's not been confirmed but i think there's some merit to that e.g. How is it that the Nokia X7 has a public beta of pie before the Nokia 7 despite the latter being released an entire year before ? The dev team were likely instructed to prioritise the latest devices for strategic reasons from marketing.
Whatever the reason behind it, they've failed to communicate any delays in development and didn't stick to their word. Their silence is complicity towards a false pledge.
I guess when it comes to android development, we just shouldn't get our hopes up.

sr993 said:
Yeah, recently there was also some speculation that Nokia was delaying updates to boost sales of the latest devices. It's not been confirmed but i think there's some merit to that e.g. How is it that the Nokia X7 has a public beta of pie before the Nokia 7 despite the latter being released an entire year before ? The dev team were likely instructed to prioritise the latest devices for strategic reasons from marketing.
Whatever the reason behind it, they've failed to communicate any delays in development and didn't stick to their word. Their silence is complicity towards a false pledge.
I guess when it comes to android development, we just shouldn't get our hopes up.
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They promizs the gave regular updates... But they fail. Coz in 2 monts there is no update

Look this:
Finally. Thanks Nokia. :victory:

PaideLis said:
Look this:
Finally. Thanks Nokia. :victory:
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Better late than never.

I've installed pie update and performed a factory reset. Everything went ok however I'm having an issue with contact sync; neither stock contacts application or Google contacts are able to sync my contacts, also I am not able to install Google+ either from playstore or using APK from apkmirror.
I've had to import my contacts to phone from an exported VCF file from Google contacts.
Any idea on how to make contact sync to work?
Thanks

gsdovali said:
I've installed pie update and performed a factory reset. Everything went ok however I'm having an issue with contact sync; neither stock contacts application or Google contacts are able to sync my contacts, also I am not able to install Google+ either from playstore or using APK from apkmirror.
I've had to import my contacts to phone from an exported VCF file from Google contacts.
Any idea on how to make contact sync to work?
Thanks
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Please can you confirm If morelocale app still working on Android Pie?
Thanks.

PaideLis said:
Please can you confirm If morelocale app still working on Android Pie?
Thanks.
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Yes it works, however I guess it is not longer needed as you can add more languages from android settings.

gsdovali said:
Yes it works, however I guess it is not longer needed as you can add more languages from android settings.
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Wow cool.
I will update today then.
Thanks. :good:

PaideLis said:
Wow cool.
I will update today then.
Thanks. :good:
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ok, if you do a factory reset after update it, please confirm my issues with Google contacts and G+ installation failed.

gsdovali said:
ok, if you do a factory reset after update it, please confirm my issues with Google contacts and G+ installation failed.
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UPDATE:
I did a factory reset again. I can add any other language without any thirdparty application; contact sync still not working.

Any bugs which you guys encountered in Pie? I have seeing some random app minimization while typing.

gsdovali said:
UPDATE:
I did a factory reset again. I can add any other language without any thirdparty application; contact sync still not working.
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I have the same problem as you with contacts and G+ too.
And another one: I can't send or receive SMS. Can someone help here please?

Related

Nokia Bluetooth Transfer

Does anyone have the xap for the new Nokia Bluetooth Transfer? I have WP 7.8 on my phone but when I go to the Nokia Market Place from my phoneI can't find it on there and when I go to the market place on the web it says it is not avilable that I have to do it from my phone, WT?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35641960
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/bluetooth-share/51f49c63-5966-4752-bb12-430455f911a8
Thanks guys but not working on my Spark_W says something about the software is not avilable for the current version of my Windows Phone version or something like that.
What device you have ? For other than Nokia devices you have to install drivers: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2054189
Budniu said:
What device you have ? For other than Nokia devices you have to install drivers: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2054189
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Yeah I installed the Nokia drivers and no luck
May be try:
again
Button
*Enable DFT_BT file retrieval
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#6
without restart device (this trick helped for me)
I installed 7.8 today on my lumia 800 and apparently, the app is not available. It says the phone is not up to date, or the app is not available due to carrier/region constraints. Any ideas what to do about this?
I installed it on my Samsung Focus and it is working fine.
Really? it works on any phone but nokias? I can't even install it...
mcosmin222 said:
Really? it works on any phone but nokias? I can't even install it...
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you've installed an unreleased OS update and are wondering why apps don't work with it yet...
theres any number of reasons it might not work at this point, lets wait until an official update is released, (zune!) and see if they update the app.
as for the Focus, assuming its unlocked we can make it look like any device / version we can think of
dazza9075 said:
you've installed an unreleased OS update and are wondering why apps don't work with it yet...
theres any number of reasons it might not work at this point, lets wait until an official update is released, (zune!) and see if they update the app.
as for the Focus, assuming its unlocked we can make it look like any device / version we can think of
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The update is officially out, if you want to install it through nokia care. Nokia representatives confirmed, but i can't be bother to find the posts.
Any new lumia 7.5 model will get the 7.8 update out of the box. Existing ones can get it though care if they don't want to wait. They are currently working on a way of updating existing phones WITHOUT wiping all data.
So, bluetooth share is an issue right now, as many others reported (even in the marketplace comments).
mcosmin222 said:
The update is officially out, if you want to install it through nokia care. Nokia representatives confirmed, but i can't be bother to find the posts.
Any new lumia 7.5 model will get the 7.8 update out of the box. Existing ones can get it though care if they don't want to wait. They are currently working on a way of updating existing phones WITHOUT wiping all data.
So, bluetooth share is an issue right now, as many others reported (even in the marketplace comments).
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7.8 has not been officially released by anyone regardless of where it is available
it would be most unfortunate that this turned in to a situation similar to when Mango was released, in that folk updated then couldn't get the official update because they didn't release the update from beta updates... meaning they had to wipe the device anyway.
everyone just needs some patience around 7.8, it will be out when MS and the networks say it is, supporting apps will be fixed to work with it when they too get fixed...
http://discussions.nokia.com/t5/Nokia-Lumia/windows-phone-7-8/m-p/1691664#M34863
read it.
Bluetooth share is most likely hidden in the marketplace by nokia.
The app can now be installed, but you need a direct link to the marketplace to do it. It still does not show up in the search or nokia collection.
Nokia BT Share 2.0.2.2
Direct Link http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/bluetooth-share/51f49c63-5966-4752-bb12-430455f911a8
Can't download directly.
Please attach XAP.
TIA.
Sent link by mail to your phone.
titi66200 said:
Sent link by mail to your phone.
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I've already tried it but it says not available for my phone (HTC HD7).
Market Select helped.
Attached latest version.

Android Oreo Beta Test Program

Hi guys !
i justed wanted to inform you that Nokia has started a beta program for Nokia 8 for Oreo beta testing
If anybody wants to try it here is the link, because still i dont own the phone yet
https://www.nokia.com/en_int/phones/betalabs
Don't know why it says my phone isn't supported.
Just signed up and installed...
Another one here with Oreo [emoji16]
Enviado do meu TA-1004 através de Tapatalk
For those that purchased via a carrier.. Not sure how many will get hit by this..
"Sorry, your device is from a network operator that is not participating in Nokia phones beta labs."
Edit: Purchased via Vodafone AU.
ideletejunk said:
For those that purchased via a carrier.. Not sure how many will get hit by this..
"Sorry, your device is from a network operator that is not participating in Nokia phones beta labs."
Edit: Purchased via Vodafone AU.
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'i cant even reach the site, it just loading all the time, for like 5 min now
Singed up and waiting for OTA push.
Finally some good news regarding this trainwreck.
Edit
Downloading.
nuggeo said:
Singed up and waiting for OTA push.
Finally some good news regarding this trainwreck.
Edit
Downloading.
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Don't wait just go to settings and pull it right away.
Trainwreck in what way?
brianj41 said:
'i cant even reach the site, it just loading all the time, for like 5 min now
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Yep... It's a JavaScript error. Try a different or older browser. For me, it didn't work with Firefox and Chrome on my desktop, and also failed with Chrome on Android. I finally got it running with Firefox on Android.
Maybe they want to make sure you're a worthy beta tester...
mitchst2 said:
Don't wait just go to settings and pull it right away.
Trainwreck in what way?
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Yep updated.
My first device was RMA for 23 days before I finaly got a new one for the DOA device.
I sitll think the OP3 is a better device in every way.
nuggeo said:
Yep updated.
My first device was RMA for 23 days before I finaly got a new one for the DOA device.
I sitll think the OP3 is a better device in every way.
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No experience with OP devices.
Customer service reports and cutting short device support put me off them.
nuggeo said:
Yep updated.
My first device was RMA for 23 days before I finaly got a new one for the DOA device.
I sitll think the OP3 is a better device in every way.
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Personaly i don`t agree, i`ve had the the 3/ 3T/ 5 and support is terrible. They can`t get the camera software/ processing up to par and and after only 6 months your device is allready obsolete. Would never buy a OP again. Nokia fills the gap between OEM devices and the Pixels by creating a new affordable Nexus line, imo a golden move for all android purists.
I've got the Beta, and the only issue I have is the 'xxx is running in the background' alerts (which are part of Oreo anyway, and annoying rather than a showstopper), and lock-screen display is not showing the number of e-mails and texts unread.
shredzone said:
Yep... It's a JavaScript error. Try a different or older browser. For me, it didn't work with Firefox and Chrome on my desktop, and also failed with Chrome on Android. I finally got it running with Firefox on Android.
Maybe they want to make sure you're a worthy beta tester...
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thx for the help, it worked via EDGE. but im mayby a rookie, or just tired, cant find any links or what ever to get the software
gee2012 said:
Personaly i don`t agree, i`ve had the the 3/ 3T/ 5 and support is terrible. They can`t get the camera software/ processing up to par and and after only 6 months your device is allready obsolete. Would never buy a OP again. Nokia fills the gap between OEM devices and the Pixels by creating a new affordable Nexus line, imo a golden move for all android purists.
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Agreed hoping the updates keep coming and they are onto a winner as far as I'm concerned.
mitchst2 said:
Agreed hoping the updates keep coming and they are onto a winner as far as I'm concerned.
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Hope so too, but i`am fairly confident they will . If they do they :victory:
i read that you can roll back to 7.1.1 from 8 Beta...in this case will the phone be reseted? i wanna give 8 a try bot do not wanna set the device from scratch again.
Thorgoth said:
i read that you can roll back to 7.1.1 from 8 Beta...in this case will the phone be reseted? i wanna give 8 a try bot do not wanna set the device from scratch again.
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Roll back is full wipe. Not something I'll be doing anyway. Sticking with oreo
I also updated to Oreo, so far i have found everything snappier.
Just hope they get the ringtone volume back to nougat levels.
camera seems to take slightly sharper images, but no increase in speed taking shots.
All in all this phone is what the pixels should be, all phones should come with a memory card slot.
Updated my TA-1004, ATM it works just fine
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February 2020 Security update where is it?

Did Xiaomi forgot it? What happens?
It's still February and we will get it next week. Keep calm!
Coronavirus happened?
When the device first launched, we used to get updates in the first week of the month, but as the time went by we started getting them by the end of the month. We will get it. But don't keep your hopes up, it'll just be a mere security update and 'bug fixes'. Most probably.
marstonpear said:
When the device first launched, we used to get updates in the first week of the month, but as the time went by we started getting them by the end of the month. We will get it. But don't keep your hopes up, it'll just be a mere security update and 'bug fixes'. Most probably.
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So Xiaomi changed its update pattern again. I hope this will be the sign of Android 10 update. I cant believe we are still in Android 9. Yesterday Google released first Android 11 developer preview.
Cappucinto said:
It's still February and we will get it next week. Keep calm!
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How can you be sure?
MercilessSinner said:
Coronavirus happened?
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Do you think Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite dev (or devs) lives in Vuhan?
perfect_ said:
Do you think Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite dev (or devs) lives in Vuhan?
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Idk where they live but one of their factory is actually in Wuhan, and they were closed for a couple of weeks.
perfect_ said:
Do you think Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite dev (or devs) lives in Vuhan?
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Not to mention, some neighboring provinces in China are also affected with the virus, not just Wuhan.
I really don't think that the virus poses a threat to the development. I'm quite sure that in this day and age, people can work from home or basically from anywhere in the world. It will just be another excuse for Xiaomi's laziness. Hell, Xiaomi India's official Twitter account said that Mi A3 would get the Q update mid-February, but it's February 23rd and they still didn't get one. So, I've stopped expecting anything from Xiaomi, and I've learnt a valuable lesson, never again cheap Chinese smartphones. They come with bloat, slow updates and sh*tty customer support. Cheers.
marstonpear said:
I really don't think that the virus poses a threat to the development. I'm quite sure that in this day and age, people can work from home or basically from anywhere in the world. It will just be another excuse for Xiaomi's laziness. Hell, Xiaomi India's official Twitter account said that Mi A3 would get the Q update mid-February, but it's February 23rd and they still didn't get one. So, I've stopped expecting anything from Xiaomi, and I've learnt a valuable lesson, never again cheap Chinese smartphones. They come with bloat, slow updates and sh*tty customer support. Cheers.
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For the price its an ok phone. However most likely this was my first and last Xiaomi phone.
Would not be surprised to see them use the virus as a. Excuse to drop updates on the device, would prefer if they communicated but they seem to just ignore us, problem being is the one program is not profitable for them selling as they cannot load advertising in to the device
Update bug question
the new update that rolled out about a week ago now (at least for the s9+), and I'm wondering what bugs this one has. I had to back up my stuff and factory reset my phone to get some of the bugs out. I'm still noticing some other things I'm not crazy about even after that reset, though my phone is working MUCH better now. Can someone who has it give me their input before I do the update? Thanks!
BorderlineBoi said:
the new update that rolled out about a week ago now (at least for the s9+), and I'm wondering what bugs this one has. I had to back up my stuff and factory reset my phone to get some of the bugs out. I'm still noticing some other things I'm not crazy about even after that reset, though my phone is working MUCH better now. Can someone who has it give me their input before I do the update? Thanks!
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Its Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite forum. You need to write that to S9+ forum.
rockycocky said:
Would not be surprised to see them use the virus as a. Excuse to drop updates on the device, would prefer if they communicated but they seem to just ignore us, problem being is the one program is not profitable for them selling as they cannot load advertising in to the device
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China ambassador said: We found a cure. Its in Test stage.
andraslate said:
For the price its an ok phone. However most likely this was my first and last Xiaomi phone.
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Same. But Google forces oems to use features as a default. If oem wants to take Android 10 certificate on his new phone Google forces them to use Cam2Api as a default. Google gives me hope in a good way.
More force to the Oems for new features = Better phones
Google knows if they leave the choices to Oems this will cause deep differencies between phones. I am glad they understand that.
For example:
Gcam vs Stock Mi A2 Lite camera. You know the difference. Its like day and night. Same hardware but better results.
marstonpear said:
I really don't think that the virus poses a threat to the development. I'm quite sure that in this day and age, people can work from home or basically from anywhere in the world. It will just be another excuse for Xiaomi's laziness. Hell, Xiaomi India's official Twitter account said that Mi A3 would get the Q update mid-February, but it's February 23rd and they still didn't get one. So, I've stopped expecting anything from Xiaomi, and I've learnt a valuable lesson, never again cheap Chinese smartphones. They come with bloat, slow updates and sh*tty customer support. Cheers.
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Google and Qualcomm trying to make everything updateable they just need time.
Project Mainline
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-q-project-mainline-security/
More Project Mainline features added in Android 11
One day we are gonna install new Android OS updates like Windows 10 or Linux. But not now.
perfect_ said:
Same. But Google forces oems to use features as a default. If oem wants to take Android 10 certificate on his new phone Google forces them to use Cam2Api as a default. Google gives me hope in a good way.
More force to the Oems for new features = Better phones
Google knows if they leave the choices to Oems this will cause deep differencies between phones. I am glad they understand that.
For example:
Gcam vs Stock Mi A2 Lite camera. You know the difference. Its like day and night. Same hardware but better results.
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I didn't know Google forced OEMs to enable Cam2API. Good to know. Let's see what Xiaomi is gonna do about this haha.
perfect_ said:
Google and Qualcomm trying to make everything updateable they just need time.
Project Mainline
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-q-project-mainline-security/
More Project Mainline features added in Android 11
One day we are gonna install new Android OS updates like Windows 10 or Linux. But not now.
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One day we will have flying cars, what is your point? This device won't even get Android 11. Your statement is not only irrelevant but also unhelpful in this scenario.
marstonpear said:
One day we will have flying cars, what is your point? This device won't even get Android 11. Your statement is not only irrelevant but also unhelpful in this scenario.
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I just predict the future for future phones.
Either wait for Xiaomi or go custom rom... I'll wait until the end of March if they don't provide the upgrade I will

Clocks ticking: March is about to end

Recently Xiaomi promised this to us;
"Xiaomi is aware of the Android 10 update issues in Mi A2 Lite and the launch to users of that device has now been suspended. Our teams are now working to solve the problem and our goal is to implement an update via OTA throughout March. Affected users are recommended to take their devices to authorized Xiaomi service centers for post-sale assistance."
Source
Xiaomi’s Android One smartphone: Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite, even after 210 days still waiting for the new Android OS update.
Its been 6 months 27 days since first Android 10 release.
Also Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite didnt get any security update about 74 days.
Any bets?
Xiaomi must release at least security patch, because as per google rules, the security patch on phone must not be older than 90 days on beginning of each month. Also, there are reports that the new Android 10 with march security is already seeding to small amount of users.
Who got it?
We need the download source!
I think the update will not coming on time, 1 day left.
I don't expect to much for now.
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Who got it?
We need the download source!
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That one got deleted by Xiaomeme due to bugs that lead to destroy phone (temporarily). One of them did go directly to local technician because it can't turn on phone anymore due to that update.
RFD80M-75679 said:
That one got deleted by Xiaomeme due to bugs that lead to destroy phone (temporarily). One of them did go directly to local technician because it can't turn on phone anymore due to that update.
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No man. The one removed on March 9 siced 1089.3...
That is a new one, trust me
Androıd 10 Rolled Out https://c.mi.com/thread-2976561-1-0.html?t=1585624713321
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No man. The one removed on March 9 siced 1089.3...
That is a new one, trust me
Androıd 10 Rolled Out https://c.mi.com/thread-2976561-1-0.html?t=1585624713321
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Nothing rolled out until i receive Android 10 update on my device.
...available soon for everyone. Well, then, let's wait for it.
vinylmeister said:
...available soon for everyone. Well, then, let's wait for it.
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We've been waiting.
Hello who get new update?
That one Thai guy only lol. But, since he is quiet, I asume the phone is working, which, even with first android 10, half of devices were working as well.
Lool?? only one lucky thai guy omg
Wtf xiomi
I'm not even going to check untill it's confirmed to be working fine. Don't want to download another phone breaking half assed update.
andraslate said:
I'm not even going to check untill it's confirmed to be working fine. Don't want to download another phone breaking half assed update.
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Are you that thai guy
miloske83 said:
Are you that thai guy
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It wasn't me who posted the screenshot / I'm not checking the update in settings
No update at the moment of this reply and in China is 21:53, I guess no update today, very sad.
Os_Herdz said:
No update at the moment of this reply and in China is 21:53, I guess no update today, very sad.
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I'd say try to track down this guy
Nothing else was expected. My last Xiaomi phone, poor update philosophy.
Me to this my firist and last xiaomi phone,time to back to samsung?
VS88 said:
That one Thai guy only lol. But, since he is quiet, I asume the phone is working, which, even with first android 10, half of devices were working as well.
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Hmm i don't think he got the update, there is no evidence to back that up.

upgrade to android 11 or stay on 10

it is so frustrating that they release phones so often with no chance to really refines them. then there is google that puts out versions of android before developers get a chance to master or migrate fully to the latter.
i heard the new storage security in android 11 can cause hiccups like slow loading and crashes due to the new storage activity due to the new security rules.
should i stay on android 10 just like so many stayed on android 4.x.x for so long to keep compatibility
Just look at xda's complaint on scooped storage
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-11-features-developers-new-apis/
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it is so frustrating that they release phones so often with no chance to really refines them. then there is google that puts out versions of android before developers get a chance to master or migrate fully to the latter.
i heard the new storage security in android 11 can cause hiccups like slow loading and crashes due to the new storage activity due to the new security rules.
should i stay on android 10 just like so many stayed on android 4.x.x for so long to keep compatibility
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I'm going to upgrade ASAP, never had any issues with the upgrades and I've been in android since 2009.
update to 11 with no second thoughts
Upgrade. No 2nd thoughts about it.
ggrant3876 said:
I'm going to upgrade ASAP, never had any issues with the upgrades and I've been in android since 2009.
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Check out the link i put in the original post. Even xda sees scooped storage as a failure. Just scroll down to scooped storage
gloege said:
Check out the link i put in the original post. Even xda sees scooped storage as a failure. Just scroll down to scooped storage
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I did and as I said I've never had any issues with an update in 11 years. I'm sure Sammy will have it figured out before they release it. All my phones have been rooted until the Note 7, and you take more chance flashing a rom written by some dev than an update from a major player.
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I did and as I said I've never had any issues with an update in 11 years. I'm sure Sammy will have it figured out before they release it. All my phones have been rooted until the Note 7, and you take more chance flashing a rom written by some dev than an update from a major player.
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But samsung does not work or develop the third party apps or what not that you install on your phone. Any unsupported app you use will likely be crippled(heard that loading times can be 100× longer to start the app) and any dev too aggravated to to fix it may stop supporting his or her project. Also most devs have not even cought up to android 10. Yea i hope to many update and google learns their error in this mess
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But samsung does not work or develop the third party apps or what not that you install on your phone. Any unsupported app you use will likely be crippled(heard that loading times can be 100× longer to start the app) and any dev too aggravated to to fix it may stop supporting his or her project. Also most devs have not even cought up to android 10. Yea i hope to many update and google learns their error in this mess
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If it does happen and I seriously doubt it, I'll just reflash with odin and restore my backup. My glass is half full, not half empty. I have friends on other forums running 11 beta on Pixels with no issues.
Am I in a pixel or oneplus thread? Note 20 ultra users most likely get Android 11 before March 2021 and chances are that any kinks should be ironed out by then. I don't understand why this conversation needs to happen this early.
Edit: https://www.phonearena.com/news/sam...-android-11-update-one-ui-3-t-mobile_id127042
Guess I stand corrected! One Ui 3.0 AKA Android 11 is already in Beta in South Korea and coming to T-mobile according to this article.
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gloege said:
it is so frustrating that they release phones so often with no chance to really refines them. then there is google that puts out versions of android before developers get a chance to master or migrate fully to the latter.
i heard the new storage security in android 11 can cause hiccups like slow loading and crashes due to the new storage activity due to the new security rules.
should i stay on android 10 just like so many stayed on android 4.x.x for so long to keep compatibility
Just look at xda's complaint on scooped storage
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-11-features-developers-new-apis/
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I will absolutely update as soon as its available. I always sign up for the beta each year to get the update ASAP. Most people complain that Samsung doesn't update fast enough. Haven't heard anyone complain yet that they update TOO fast, LOL.
These concerns happen every year, and they always end up being a non-issue.
As far as app compatibility issues, that's the developers' issues. They are advised long in advance what they need to do to remain compatible with the current OS.
mrnovanova said:
Am I in a pixel or oneplus thread? Note 20 ultra users most likely get Android 11 before March 2021 and chances are that any kinks should be ironed out by then. I don't understand why this conversation needs to happen this early.
Edit: https://www.phonearena.com/news/sam...-android-11-update-one-ui-3-t-mobile_id127042
Guess I stand corrected! One Ui 3.0 AKA Android 11 is already in Beta in South Korea and coming to T-mobile according to this article.
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Yup! Sammy has stepped up their update game the last few years. I think last year they were pushing the official Android 10 before the end of the year to some devices. I think, but I could be wrong. I know it was earlier than the previous years.
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I will absolutely update as soon as its available. I always sign up for the beta each year to get the update ASAP. Most people complain that Samsung doesn't update fast enough. Haven't heard anyone complain yet that they update TOO fast, LOL.
These concerns happen every year, and they always end up being a non-issue.
As far as app compatibility issues, that's the developers' issues. They are advised long in advance what they need to do to remain compatible with the current OS.
Yup! Sammy has stepped up their update game the last few years. I think last year they were pushing the official Android 10 before the end of the year to some devices. I think, but I could be wrong. I know it was earlier than the previous years.
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Guess you just lucked out. But i try not to be the one stuck with a dodgy os. When they updated to android 5 no phone would run my fave application and then the android 5 memory leak. Not to mention other things os updates can bring untill they fix them. And that is googles fault not the phone maker
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Guess you just lucked out. But i try not to be the one stuck with a dodgy os. When they updated to android 5 no phone would run my fave application and then the android 5 memory leak. Not to mention other things os updates can bring untill they fix them. And that is googles fault not the phone maker
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LOL. I don't think I lucked out. I think issues with OS updates are far less common than you think. I'd say you are definitely in the minority.
I've been on Android since the original Moto Droid. I've had almost every Moto, LG, Samsung, Nexus, and Pixel. I've been through beta OS updates, official updates, side loaded updates, unofficial ported updates, you name it.
You're going back 5 YEARS and saying because an update broke your favorite application, that Google/Samsung updates too often? Is every update perfect? No, but they certainly don't break everything the way you think they do.
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Android updates on Samsung phones are always an anti-climax. Samsung tend to have implemented all the best features that a new Android update brings already. What you end up with is a range of bugs or security features that break your apps. I will always go for the update that's offered but I am not excited about it or bothered if there's a delay in any roll outs.
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I will absolutely update as soon as its available. I always sign up for the beta each year to get the update ASAP. Most people complain that Samsung doesn't update fast enough. Haven't heard anyone complain yet that they update TOO fast, LOL.
These concerns happen every year, and they always end up being a non-issue.
As far as app compatibility issues, that's the developers' issues. They are advised long in advance what they need to do to remain compatible with the current OS.
Yup! Sammy has stepped up their update game the last few years. I think last year they were pushing the official Android 10 before the end of the year to some devices. I think, but I could be wrong. I know it was earlier than the previous years.
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No you are absolutely right. I'm out in Canada and if memory serves me right we got Android 10 at the beginning of January a month or so after the US. It was the years prior that the OS update came out with the S series release. And to your point Samsung has stepped up their game, tremendously. It's right after the Pixels and Oneplus which is not too shabby. And getting faster to boot. No complaints here. :good:
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Mr. Orange 645 said:
I will absolutely update as soon as its available. I always sign up for the beta each year to get the update ASAP. Most people complain that Samsung doesn't update fast enough. Haven't heard anyone complain yet that they update TOO fast, LOL.
These concerns happen every year, and they always end up being a non-issue.
As far as app compatibility issues, that's the developers' issues. They are advised long in advance what they need to do to remain compatible with the current OS.
Yup! Sammy has stepped up their update game the last few years. I think last year they were pushing the official Android 10 before the end of the year to some devices. I think, but I could be wrong. I know it was earlier than the previous years.
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Yeah, Note10+ got Android 10 in December I believe. Definitely was super fast compared to Note9 getting Android 9 (February/March).
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Android updates on Samsung phones are always an anti-climax. Samsung tend to have implemented all the best features that a new Android update brings already. What you end up with is a range of bugs or security features that break your apps. I will always go for the update that's offered but I am not excited about it or bothered if there's a delay in any roll outs.
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So true. I read one of the big changes with Android was bubble-like messaging, much like FB Messenger. Uh... I've had that in Samsung for a couple years now I think? My text app always pops up in a bubble instead of the notifications panel.
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Yeah, Note10+ got Android 10 in December I believe. Definitely was super fast compared to Note9 getting Android 9 (February/March).
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Thats what I was thinking, but couldn't remember 100%. Unless there's somd major issues, it looks like we're on the same timeline for Android 11, since the beta is already out for the international S20 series. US Note 20 won't be too far behind.
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Check out the link i put in the original post. Even xda sees scooped storage as a failure. Just scroll down to scooped storage
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Spot on. What a wrenched mess.
My 10+ is still running well on Pie.
Google is insane to emulate Apple.
I don't think Google will fix it, another Vista.
Probably stay on Pie for the life of this phone and hope Google regains their sphincter control with 12 or 13...
So true. I read one of the big changes with Android was bubble-like messaging, much like FB Messenger. Uh... I've had that in Samsung for a couple years now I think? My text app always pops up in a bubble instead of the notifications panel.[/QUOTE]
you know you can change/turn that off to get the notification view of it
gloege said:
So true. I read one of the big changes with Android was bubble-like messaging, much like FB Messenger. Uh... I've had that in Samsung for a couple years now I think? My text app always pops up in a bubble instead of the notifications panel.
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you know you can change/turn that off to get the notification view of it[/QUOTE]
I saw that too, wtf? Messenger does that all the time with Pie.
Lol, half of the time I disable it because it's a nuisance.
I've backed up all my Playstore apps with APK Export because of them either being taken down in Playstore or turned into a bloody mess to adapt to 10/11.
I also have a couple trusted apps the use overlays, Q would render them useless or a pain to use.
I remember the horror of Vista and Lollipop... Pie is running very well, WYSIWYG
The most I'll do for now is an occasional reload of Pie if needed. All my data including the all apks/system updates are stored on my SD card so reloads are much easier. No screwing around with or waiting for Playstore. Any app that allows it's setup to be exported is also saved there.
With over 230 GB of data it saves a lot of time coping it from the laptop too.
I never have a phone without an SD card slot... you know like an Apple.
I saw that too, wtf? Messenger does that all the time with Pie.
Lol, half of the time I disable it because it's a nuisance.
I've backed up all my Playstore apps with APK Export because of them either being taken down in Playstore or turned into a bloody mess to adapt to 10/11.
I also have a couple trusted apps the use overlays, Q would render them useless or a pain to use.
I remember the horror of Vista and Lollipop... Pie is running very well, WYSIWYG
The most I'll do for now is an occasional reload of Pie if needed. All my data including the all apks/system updates are stored on my SD card so reloads are much easier. No screwing around with or waiting for Playstore. Any app that allows it's setup to be exported is also saved there.
With over 230 GB of data it saves a lot of time coping it from the laptop too.
I never have a phone without an SD card slot... you know like an Apple.[/QUOTE]
thanks for the info i have a few apps i want to get off my lg g4 that are a miss in the android store

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