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Better get crackin'
Google has just released AOSP 2.2!!!!
http://developer.android.com/index.html
BenjRubenstein said:
Better get crackin'
Google has just released AOSP 2.2!!!!
http://developer.android.com/index.html
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YESSSSS!!!!!!!
Wrong board.
Ha ha. Wrong board but I was waiting to see this here anyway. For the record, I'm cloning the source to my dev server as we speak
Edit: Looks like the drop isn't completed yet as my cloning has stalled lol
Now if Google could somehow force HTC to give us source then we would-be in heaven right now
bcnice20 said:
Now if Google could somehow force HTC to give us source then we would-be in heaven right now
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yeah, the camera is going to need source to get it fully functional. At least 4g shouldn't be a problem now since wimax is built into source.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=708954
FAIL !! sir
What can this bring to the table for modders and developers? Does this mean it will be easier to make stable custom roms right off the bat?
Will this give developers and modders a leg up on fixing bugs in current roms without banging their heads for months at a time?
What does this really mean for the community as a whole?
ray5780 said:
What can this bring to the table for modders and developers? Does this mean it will be easier to make stable custom roms right off the bat?
Will this give developers and modders a leg up on fixing bugs in current roms without banging their heads for months at a time?
What does this really mean for the community as a whole?
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They're not releasing anymore source than they normally do (which is releasing the kernel as they have to under GPL). They're just releasing an sdk so you can develop for sense without hacking it as developers currently do. An sdk is not the source, just a way to access the public aspects of the code without hacking it.
ohhhh wow, that is alot different than i thought. Sorry about that. I hope they do release the source for sense one day though. I may not like sense but it would open up alot more for developers
ray5780 said:
ohhhh wow, that is alot different than i thought. Sorry about that. I hope they do release the source for sense one day though. I may not like sense but it would open up alot more for developers
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Would be nice if they did, but I think they view it as intellectual property they dont want others (probably most likely Moto/Samsung/etc) to have free access to. If they all opened up, then it would be less of a problem I think.
I emailed HTC's open source department about kernel source and this is the email I gotHTC
to me
Dear Dustin Stoker,
Hey, Dustin, thanks for contacting us about the kernal source for the One XL. In regards to this, getting that phones source code is something we are working on getting up. I know this is something that is being worked on and we don't just want to put up flawed software for the development community to use. So we want it to be as close to perfect and include the patches to previous problems we've run into as well. So, that is why that we don't really have an ETA at this point. I thank you for your patience with us in this and I hope you have a great day!
Hope it comes soon.
same typical
automated email response
Ya I figured that was the case hope it comes soon they gotta comply with linux open source laws if they released it the talented devs on hear could probably fix it before them lol
xstokerx said:
Ya I figured that was the case hope it comes soon they gotta comply with linux open source laws if they released it the talented devs on hear could probably fix it before them lol
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soon as in month and month and month from now
CheesyNutz said:
soon as in month and month and month from now
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Yep usually how it is
xstokerx said:
I emailed HTC's open source department about kernel source and this is the email I gotHTC
to me
Dear Dustin Stoker,
Hey, Dustin, thanks for contacting us about the kernal source for the One XL. In regards to this, getting that phones source code is something we are working on getting up. I know this is something that is being worked on and we don't just want to put up flawed software for the development community to use. So we want it to be as close to perfect and include the patches to previous problems we've run into as well. So, that is why that we don't really have an ETA at this point. I thank you for your patience with us in this and I hope you have a great day!
Hope it comes soon.
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Um, if this is an official response from HTC, they have horrible spelling, grammar and sentence formation.
It also seems highly unlikely that a paid developer spelled "kernel" wrong.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
Here's HTC's standard response:
Dear $YOUR_NAME
Thank you for contacting HTC regarding Kernel Source code. I know that this code is important to the development community and I will be happy to assist you with the correct information regarding this.
HTC is committed to assisting customers in getting kernel source code for HTC devices. We will release source code in accordance with any applicable open source license terms. We are working to release appropriate kernel code bases as soon as possible after device launch but we cannot guarantee the exact time frame. Other source codes, which are not required to be disclosed by the open source license terms, unfortunately cannot be disclosed by HTC as they may be proprietary to HTC or its licensor.
Please keep an eye on http://developer.htc.com for more information. I hope you enjoy the rest of your week, $YOUR_NAME.
If this answers your comment or question, please click here to complete the process.
To submit another comment, please click here.
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I offer myself as a tester. I don't know to compile ROMS
Perhaps you should try RR and feedback missing features? I wouldn't expect anything until the kernel source is released though.
I don't understand because Xiaomi has this politic. Xiaomi has that to sell first a new model for free source code of others old models. My great dissolusion with Xiaomi only to sell her software she doesn't allow that the community developers do their great work with this fantastics ROM for example LineageOs, AICP, Hexa-project, Resurrection Remix, Etc......
coco19821961 said:
I don't understand because Xiaomi has this politic. Xiaomi has that to sell first a new model for free source code of others old models. My great dissolusion with Xiaomi only to sell her software she doesn't allow that the community developers do their great work with this fantastics ROM for example LineageOs, AICP, Hexa-project, Resurrection Remix, Etc......
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My man, I fully understand your point, hell I share it.
But you bought the phone fully knowing this was going to happen. If you did not you flat out did not do your homework.
Xiaomi is always lagging heavily on releasing their sources and has always been very vague regarding their release dates. Heck they often simply drop it out of nowhere.
If you wanted the source code NOW and this was not debatable you should have bought the 3T.
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My man, I fully understand your point.
But you bought the phone fully knowing this was going to happen. If you did not you flat out did not do your homework.
Xiaomi is always lagging heavily on releasing their sources and has always been very vague regarding their release dates. Heck they often simply drop it out of nowhere.
If you wanted the source code NOW and this was not debatable you should have bought the 3T.
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I did not know. I am sorry by my ignorance. I bought this device because It seems to me very good and It has a great hardware, but her software I don't like
coco19821961 said:
I did not know. I am sorry by my ignorance. I bought this device because It seems to me very good and It has a great hardware, but her software I don't like
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It just strikes me as very odd that one is willing to throw at least 400 bucks without checking how active rom development is.
I bought this phone with the idea that the source code will be released before end of may.
If it does not happen I'd be quite sad, but the current RR is actually really ****ing good. I don't actually mind as much.
So, once again, referring to my first post, did you even try RR?
This work is for @NexusPenguin, friend if you have a little time can you please try to compile Hexa-Project and ValidusOS
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It just strikes me as very odd that one is willing to throw at least 400 bucks without checking how active rom development is.
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Hi,
LOL... Don't forget that, on the other side of the river, I mean the iOS side, people spend 1000 bucks on their phone not even knowing what development and custom ROM even is as even the concept can hardly be imagined
I'll try to compile Validus (I'm part of the GZR team anyways so it was planned right after I got Tipsy to boot) and Hexa-OS (that I didn't know before).
I'll keep you put here of course
Regards.
NexusPenguin said:
Hi,
LOL... Don't forget that, on the other side of the river, I mean the iOS side, people spend 1000 bucks on their phone not even knowing what development and custom ROM even is as even the concept can hardly be imagined
I'll try to compile Validus (I'm part of the GZR team anyways so it was planned right after I got Tipsy to boot) and Hexa-OS (that I didn't know before).
I'll keep you put here of course
Regards.
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Thanks man, i like you thinking!
coco19821961 said:
I offer myself as a tester. I don't know to compile ROMS
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Hi,
I've looked at the Hexa-OS project.
I think you should give up all hope to have it ported to mi5s Plus.
The Hexa-OS is a purely NON-CAF project meant only for Google devices (Nexus Line and Pixel Line).
It can be ported for other devices, but that will require a lot of work and specific skills that I do not have and do not intend to acquire.
But I am in the Validus team and will try to build, even though I already face problems
But I ALWAYS had problems with Validus
Regards.
NexusPenguin said:
Hi,
I've looked at the Hexa-OS project.
I think you should give up all hope to have it ported to mi5s Plus.
The Hexa-OS is a purely NON-CAF project meant only for Google devices (Nexus Line and Pixel Line).
It can be ported for other devices, but that will require a lot of work and specific skills that I do not have and do not intend to acquire.
But I am in the Validus team and will try to build, even though I already face problems
But I ALWAYS had problems with Validus
Regards.
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Hello. THANK YOU! By your good work
NexusPenguin said:
Hi,
LOL... Don't forget that, on the other side of the river, I mean the iOS side, people spend 1000 bucks on their phone not even knowing what development and custom ROM even is as even the concept can hardly be imagined
Regards.
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I didn't imply to refer to the whole community, heck I figure +95% gives negative ****s about custom ROMs.
It just strikes me as odd that people who actually care about ROM development don't bother to check its popularity beforehand.
Especially if it's more than 200 bucks.
Good to know you're ontop of this, I'll await the times of the released kernels and sail the seas of unrestricted ROM development
Hi,
Look at this thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5s-plus/development/rom-hexa-project-t3586559
Regards.
JanPavulonik said:
Hi,
Look at this thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5s-plus/development/rom-hexa-project-t3586559
Regards.
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Hi downloading right now
Hi,
Looking at another post/thread, it seems that Jan Pavulovic has managed to build this ROM for the mi5s Plus.
Weird, I really thought it was an AOSP non-caf ROM.
Maybe there's another branch ?
Regards.
NexusPenguin said:
Hi,
Looking at another post/thread, it seems that Jan Pavulovic has managed to build this ROM for the mi5s Plus.
Weird, I really thought it was an AOSP non-caf ROM.
Maybe there's another branch ?
Regards.
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Hi I am using this ROM and perfect. Others ROM will can made for this device. Thank you by your work. Sorry my english is poor
Never mind , didn't read the last post
what is HexaProject ?
Folks,
for those who may or may not know, my name is sooti, i've been a dev here building Android since 2012. I've build roms for galaxy s1, s2, s5, LG G3, Nexus 10 and more. In all of the device communities I've worked in, the majority of devs were nice, caring and were open to sharing the knowledge and helping out if needed, and I was always willing to do the same and have on many occasions. I have never hidden my work and have always immediately committed my solutions to github to help others develop faster and help the community grow, but since I got my Xiaomi A1 I've met a whole new brand of developers, who only care about getting credit and glory, have no interest in helping their fellow devs and even if and when they do, they force them to keep the code to themselves as well.
I will not name any names, but I think you can guess who, I am part of a team of devs, TEAM OREO, who have been working on our own to bring a fully working dt to the public and keep it open source, while another group has a fully working open source and is insisting on keeping the device tree to themselves. and while this doesn't violate Android rules per say, it violates the very spirit of AOSP and of XDA more then anything. We may understand companies like Xiaomi, Samsung, LG etc not sharing the rest of their source code due to monetary concerns but here at xda none of us are getting paid for our time, we are all working together to bring great projects to life for free for all to enjoy and modify and build new roms.
It really saddens me to see this and hope this is limited to this device only, although I suspect there may be some other XIaomi devices with the same bad devs.
My team and I will continue to work hard to bring you great roms and 100% open source so that you to can contribute and help this community grow.
We are currently looking for devs to help us get Camera working, which is the only thing missing, please contact me via PM and we will add you to our telegram group.
I hope to see better things in the future,
viva open source!
Sooti,
XDA developer and android enthusiast
We are also looking for testers. If you are interested, please ping me on Telegram. Make sure you know basic stuffs like taking logcat n all ?.
Regards,
#TEAMOREO
Thanks for all the work you have done for the community. I'm proud of the work TEAM OREO is bringing for the Mi A1 community and as a contributor to open source myself, I wish every other developer for the device would follow suit. I know this is just the beginning of the development phase of the device but I'm sure that other developers that will work on the phone will probably see your post and agree wholeheartedly. As a community, we must work together. There's no doubt that some people want all the praise and thanks from everyone. That's not how open source works. We aim to provide enhancements to our devices that the manufacturers are not able to give. And helping provide open trees for all is key.
I'm not giving up on the community. But I really want it to flourish. Thanks for all of your help in making this device one of the best I've ever owned.
Sent from my Xiaomi Mi A1 using XDA Labs
It's the same story, again and again...
It's like the www. Today is only money.
It's like the way the world is going.
Well it's not the first time i have seen this private stuff nature.... i had it in my old device ...
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Yes I agree truly
TeamOreo will sure make bugless ROM soon
I have never seen such developers in my life who worked at late night to fix bugs @sooti @kunalshah @pranavbedre these guys worked very hard to bring initial Oreo
Hope this team gonna rock one day
Keep going and let's hope there's a valid reason behind for not releasing DT as of now.Looking forward for more ROMs TeamOreo!
@sooti
You and team oreo are here, so it's not so bad!
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Point made, but this thread has only one direction of travel on it and its not a good one.
Thread re-opened at OP request.
However, i have cleaned the thread and if this thread goes the way i expect i will close it for good.
Greg
You guys have no rights to ask for the source when you won't contribute anything to the source. All you guys are going to do is use it for other ROMs which will end up having the same bugs as the current LOS builds. So here's my two cents, wait till everything is stable, SELinux enforcing and then the source will be available to the public as Abhishek has said.
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You guys have no rights to ask for the source when you won't contribute anything to the source. All you guys are going to do is use it for other ROMs which will end up having the same bugs as the current LOS builds. So here's my two cents, wait till everything is stable, SELinux enforcing and then the source will be available to the public as Abhishek has said.
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Give them some respect dude...they aren't some amateurs trying to copy form some elses work they have already published their tree and where is tree of los15.1 ?
All other roms have their trees published which helps other developers to fix the bugs and help the rom become stable.but if every one wants to keep the glory and credit for themselves the community will get worser and worser
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Give them some respect dude...they aren't some amateurs trying to copy form some elses work they have already published their tree and where is tree of los15.1 ?
All other roms have their trees published which helps other developers to fix the bugs and help the rom become stable.but if every one wants to keep the glory and credit for themselves the community will get worser and worser
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This.
And if someones device tree isnt ready, why post the rom at all? And your welcome to look at my xda profile, if you think I haven't contributed... Your dead wring my friend
Sorry if my words have hurt you in anyway. I just don't want this community to end .
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Sorry if my words have hurt you in anyway. I just don't want this community to end .
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Your ok, I was actually talking to the guys before you
I came over from the axon 7 forums about a week ago. i have been on the boards and dealing with android since the days of the logitech review {honeycomb i believe}. my take on the maturity here contravenes the gungho nature I have generally observed on this message board. it reminds me of what I imagine a 50 cent water army would act like when not in the office. i normally just sit in the back and observe read and learn as I go but since this is turning into group conflict it is my place to speak up. Sooti, guys I am with you in seeing the same sad state of affaira. this is definately not how civilization is built. but worse case scenario if spoilers at the table opt for self-interest over interest of the community, thereby causing entropy and disintigration, you will be able to find me over on the cyrillic android board with base in .ru they have good comraderie generally and thats across device forums as far as I can observe.
Thanks for bringing that up front straight. I came over as a user from Galaxy S devices in the hope that the MI A1 would flourish on a free and open (source) community spirit. Unfortunately things are even worse here. I don't have the time to contribute as a developer but I'd like you guys to know that I'm very thankful for your team's openess and your effort to bring true open source to this device and not let personal intrests and politics get in the way.
sooti said:
Folks,
for those who may or may not know, my name is sooti, i've been a dev here building Android since 2012. I've build roms for galaxy s1, s2, s5, LG G3, Nexus 10 and more. In all of the device communities I've worked in, the majority of devs were nice, caring and were open to sharing the knowledge and helping out if needed, and I was always willing to do the same and have on many occasions. I have never hidden my work and have always immediately committed my solutions to github to help others develop faster and help the community grow, but since I got my Xiaomi A1 I've met a whole new brand of developers, who only care about getting credit and glory, have no interest in helping their fellow devs and even if and when they do, they force them to keep the code to themselves as well.
I will not name any names, but I think you can guess who, I am part of a team of devs, TEAM OREO, who have been working on our own to bring a fully working dt to the public and keep it open source, while another group has a fully working open source and is insisting on keeping the device tree to themselves. and while this doesn't violate Android rules per say, it violates the very spirit of AOSP and of XDA more then anything. We may understand companies like Xiaomi, Samsung, LG etc not sharing the rest of their source code due to monetary concerns but here at xda none of us are getting paid for our time, we are all working together to bring great projects to life for free for all to enjoy and modify and build new roms.
It really saddens me to see this and hope this is limited to this device only, although I suspect there may be some other XIaomi devices with the same bad devs.
My team and I will continue to work hard to bring you great roms and 100% open source so that you to can contribute and help this community grow.
We are currently looking for devs to help us get Camera working, which is the only thing missing, please contact me via PM and we will add you to our telegram group.
I hope to see better things in the future,
viva open source!
Sooti,
XDA developer and android enthusiast
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Reply by dev..for this matter
Hey I've known @abhishek987 from Redmi Note 3 forums and he's contributed greatly to LOS for the device and developed one of the most stable ROM(Ressurection Remix) on RN3.
So give him some time, like said earlier he's holding it until the bugs are ironed out. So many ROM threads already created with the same bugs, what's the point.
He's working hard on our device and not asking for any money. Give him space
iG0tB0lts said:
Hey I've known @abhishek987 from Redmi Note 3 forums and he's contributed greatly to LOS for the device and developed one of the most stable ROM(Ressurection Remix) on RN3.
So give him some time, like said earlier he's holding it until the bugs are ironed out. So many ROM threads already created with the same bugs, what's the point.
He's working hard on our device and not asking for any money. Give him space
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And not letting the other devs to work in the tree? So two groups doing the same job twice? Do you find any logic in it?
akrai said:
And not letting the other devs to work in the tree? So two groups doing the same job twice? Do you find any logic in it?
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True. I thought the same just after posting. Well anyway, lets hope for good