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ROM Development Discussion

INTRODUCTION
I am starting this forum in hope of educating my readers about ROM development according to my experiences. Further, I will highlight what is the usual developers' thought process before they decide to build a ROM for a specific device. The reasons why they usually choose a certain device or why they prefer one device over another would also be stated briefly. I also have intention of looking into ways how we can speed up ROM productions for Xperia L and what you can do to play your part.
I UNDERSTAND YOUR FRUSTRATION FOR NO CUSTOM ROMS EVEN AFTER 7 MONTHS BUT THIS DOESNOT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO SPAM
I am sure many of you must be really disappointed by the lack of development for Xperia L and I know this must be frustrating when we see other devices are getting ROMS so quickly. However, sad to put this into writing that many users have indulge into SPAMMING and I have not seen a more unorganised forum at XDA for a while. I know many are too excited when they find a little about any OTA/ Custom ROM and sharing such news is fully justified after it seems plausible. However, it's beyond my logic & thinking why the forums are SPAMMED for any little information they might find anywhere regardless of their sources or if it has been ALREADY POSTED. I reckon many of these threads could have been avoided by simply searching in the forum.
ROM DEVELOPMENT
I can assure you that many develoeprs are working very hard to PORT and develop different ROMS for Xperia L. However, the reason we can not see any CUSTOM roms till yet is due to complicated nature of Xperia L itself.
Usually developers prefer a device which is :
1. Easy to work with, less complicated to code with or in other terms DEVELOPER friendly. For example, for a while I had a real issue with HTC phones as they have too many things to work with like Bootloader, S Lock, Radios, Hboot version etc while in Nexus devices you only need to unlock your device with one fastboot command. That's all and you are ready to flash ROMs.
2. Personal preference of Device. This simply means that we all have different tastes and thus we choose different devices. A certain developer might only work for a certain brand while other might work with few brands. This has nothing to do with anything but a personal choice.
3. A device that promises reward in terms of money/self satisfaction. Developers usually go for devices which have most active users so if their intention is also to get some money out of it in terms of donation, this will work well with devices which are more in number.
4. Knowledge about a certain brand more than another.
5. MONEY TO BUY A CERTAIN DEVICE/DEVICES. Suppose a developer wants to make ROMS for Xperia L/ SP/Z and Xperia U. Yet he only has 500 dollars to choose from. He then will have to make a choice between devices and this will eventually mean that not all of the devices get the same treatment. Money is the most decisive factor why a developer doesnot chose your device but rather another. For example purpose only, if I have to choose between devices, I might prefer SP over Xperia L as I can see more future of SP than Xperia L(I might be wrong).
SOME REQUESTS
Please STOP bugging developers by trivial questions. Just think how many other people ask the same question and it gets very frustrating to actually work on the device itself.
Every developer has a LIFE apart from developing ROMs. They also have a family, school, work, hobbies, bad days and so much like us. So they will do it when they feel like doing it. Just sit back and relax. Enjoy your device until developer releases the ROM for your device. Asking a REASONABLE question seems plausible but asking same questions/useless questions without using brains is just STUPID. Kindly refrain from that.
Ubberlaggydarwin has taken the initiative to work on CyanogenMod and I believe the best thing now is to be patient. Let him concentrate. Spamming and spamming again won't help really. I saw the other posts from other CM developers who clearly stated that CM team do not HAVE xperia L till yet to start working on CM and people have started SPAMMING developers, their twitters, blogs and accounts. That's really sad. You can discuss on the forum what you think about it but IRKING developers isnot really cool.
The reason of this forum is to work as a team and I am afraid we havenot been really good at it till now and moderators have to CLOSE/DELETE forums.
If you are wondering why Xperia L isnot getting many CUSTOM ROMS is that it is a complicated device and small developers are having a tough job working on it. Thus, many developers who could easily port a ROM or build one haven't been successful as their are many stumbling blocks to work with.
WHAT CAN YOU DO TO HELP DEVELOPERS AND SEE CUSTOM ROMS.
1. Search the form first and look for answers. DON'T start new posts/questions/threads when it is ALREADY mentioned in some other section.
2. STOP PMing/SPAMING developers but rather ask a question WHICH havenot been asked before in the forum. Do not engage in the habit of making a new forum for everything. Try to keep threads as little as possible.
3. Follow developers and see what they have updated about on their official twitter,facebook,etc rather than bugging them on different forums/social websites.
4 DONATE THEM. DONATE THEM . DONATE THEM!
The amount of efforts they put, sitting for hours in front of their PCs and I know how frustrating it gets when you try to run commands and everything seems to work yet you can not boot up your ROM. And worse, you can not find WHY really. Just a change in line in build.prop results in failure of ROM to boot up and specially working from source to build ROM is really really tough. The best thing you can do is being supportive and patient !
A ROM development requires not just EXCESSIVE amount of hardwork, time, energy and dedication but also they need MONEY to actually buy devices and try it on. They are happy and encouraged to keep on developing ROMs when they see their efforts are not wasted and they are rewarded and respected for what they do.
MY SUGGESTION
An easy way to encourage the developers to work for Xperia L is by donations. Give them donations to buy a specific device. In our case, we can agree on how much we all can donate. After it is learnt how many devices can be bought with donations, we can send the amount to different developers to buy Xperia L.
I give you the opportunity to write on this forum who wants to donate and whom they trust to do this job. Specific developers can be chosen.
You can discuss about why you chose a certain developer and how much he can offer. In the end, voting should be done between users who are willing to donate so we can agree who will be the best men to do this job (of developing ROMs).
I am NOT asking for any donations myself (I have no donation bar in my account) or no one has asked me to start this post.
I will appreciate that people do not SPAM THIS THREAD.
ONLY put really important points or if you are willing to donate or want to make a valid point. I will add the names and the amount any user wishes to donate so we can track how much have been donated in theory before we can actually take the next step.
Xperia L costs around US $235 in USA, GBP 217 in the UK. So even if 50 people donate around 5-7 dollars (less than one hour of your wage), we can have many ROMS and support for our device.
I donot have a paypal account and I will ask my bank if I can make transactions to PAYPAL to tell you that I am the first person to take initiative of my theory.
UPDATE : STARTED A FORUM IN DEVELOPMENT SECTION TO FIND DEVELOPERS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47791745#post47791745
Kindly show your support and write on the thread now and then so most people can see the thread and we can reach more developers.

UPDATES :
UPDATE 24/11/2013:
Most developers have still not given any positive response till yet and I can only disappoint you that I do not see any CUSTOM development until January. No CM brewing officially and the device added on CM is just for reference. uberlaggydarwin is interested but he doesnot have the device till yet.
UPDATE 26/11/2013
I am in talks with few more developers who have shown interest in Xperia L. I am trying my best to get developers for your device!
I hope to give you good news soon. Currently I am trying to hunt down DOOMLORD who is also very experienced developer at XDA.
Uberlaggydarwin is close to buy an Xperia L and he seems to finish Xperia L development before January if donations are made by then in time. I have confirmed. Support him by donations.Check third post
UPDATE 29/11/2013
Uberlaggydarwin is still in short of money to buy Xperia L. He is still waiting for more donations made via Paypal or Google Play. Kindly Donate to him in case you want to speed up development.
UPDATE 1/12/2013
Uberlaggydarwin is having exams till wednesday. He will be then be having some holidays. If he can get donations, he will buy the phone and start working on it. He also told me that he will add few dollars himself if donations reach to a certain level.
UPDATE 3/12/2013
Uberlaggydarwin is going to make a PROPER STABLE ROM and he will strive hard to do it ! He is only interested in development and thus I believe I might be doing all the User support for CM for him! Anyone who wants to volunteer is highly appreciated.
UPDATE 7/12/2013
Uberlaggy darwin is going to buy the device soon and he has got the money to buy the device. Well, I believe the reason why I started this forum has been accomplished. This wouldnot be updated anymore and If in case required, I will again start updating this thread. Thank You so much for your donations and working as a team to make it possible for uberlaggydarwin to buy the device. Remember he has put his own 140 dollars into the device. If you are happy with his work and appreciate the CM when it comes available, you can continue donating to him.
UPDATE 7/12/2013
Ubberlaggydarwin said, he will release CAF kernel within three days when he gets the device!
He is very enthusiastic about working CM on Xperia L.
WANT DETAILED UPDATES : CHECK THEM HERE

DEVELOPERS WHO ARE WILLING TO WORK FOR XPERIA L
@uberlaggydarwin
You can support him by buying his apps on google play. They are for 0.99, 2.74 and 4.56. Together they add up to 8.29 in dollars
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.uberlaggydarwin.supportkangaroohacker
You can also donate via PayPal by clicking this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/donatetome.php?u=5314976
PayPal address ([email protected])

DONATIONS MADE BY
A big round of applause who have made possible for CM to be made possible on Xperia L:
@Voltal
@LaZiODROID
@utsavkoju
These are people who have donated to the best of my knowledge, if you think your name should be here. PM me !
Thanking them is least you can do!

Reserved for other important points/suggestions/feedback

Buddy... I can ensure you that you wrote every word I´d like to have written!!
A very big thanks for you... and I hope everyone here read, understand and feel the real purpose behind those words.
Simply awesome!! Hats off!!!

Hnk1 said:
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if possible can u add two names >
 @adfad666
 @uberlaggydarwin
Thanks

Just bought a Xperia L the other week and I have to say the XL forums here on xda really baffled me.
I owned a X8 before and it was weird to see the little development and loads of nonsense here. That was surprising to me when looking at the specs and the price tag of this phone.
Thanks for this thread, I'm looking forward to supporting any good and motivated dev. :good:
I think I uberlaggydarwin was stating interest in working on the XL as soon as he gets his hands on it. Also, CM has added the XL to their database on their website.

steeserious said:
Just bought a Xperia L the other week and I have to say the XL forums here on xda really baffled me.
I owned a X8 before and it was weird to see the little development and loads of nonsense here. That was surprising to me when looking at the specs and the price tag of this phone.
Thanks for this thread, I'm looking forward to supporting any good and motivated dev. :good:
I think I uberlaggydarwin was stating interest in working on the XL as soon as he gets his hands on it. Also, CM has added the XL to their database on their website.
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Same here, I'm coming from Neo V(Xperia 2011)there have really good development. nAa make 3.4 kernel for it and one great dev(mike) bring cm10.1/2 and now he boot cm11...
I saw the spec and the price of this device, but I forgot to search and see what development going here...But I'm optimistic for this device and I think that if we get Cm10.1/2/11 development will start with full speed.
And just to tell you,this in the Cm site is just placeholder and uberlaggydarwin start to work on cm10.1 for our device, but he don't have the device I want to help him with donate but I don't have a credit card...Will try to find someone to donate from me.
Sent from my C2105 using xda app-developers app

naitik2012 said:
if possible can u add two names >
@adfad666
@uberlaggydarwin
Thanks
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steeserious said:
Just bought a Xperia L the other week and I have to say the XL forums here on xda really baffled me.
I owned a X8 before and it was weird to see the little development and loads of nonsense here. That was surprising to me when looking at the specs and the price tag of this phone.
Thanks for this thread, I'm looking forward to supporting any good and motivated dev. :good:
I think I uberlaggydarwin was stating interest in working on the XL as soon as he gets his hands on it. Also, CM has added the XL to their database on their website.
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siankatabg said:
Same here, I'm coming from Neo V(Xperia 2011)there have really good development. nAa make 3.4 kernel for it and one great dev(mike) bring cm10.1/2 and now he boot cm11...
I saw the spec and the price of this device, but I forgot to search and see what development going here...But I'm optimistic for this device and I think that if we get Cm10.1/2/11 development will start with full speed.
And just to tell you,this in the Cm site is just placeholder and uberlaggydarwin start to work on cm10.1 for our device, but he don't have the device I want to help him with donate but I don't have a credit card...Will try to find someone to donate from me.
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I am in contact with uberlaggydarwin and he still hasnot got the device. He has worked a bit for our device using his friend phone but that's not enough. He told me that he is seriously considering CM for Xperia L and he will tell me about it in a day or two. Also, he got exams next week so it wouldnot surprise me that if he takes his time to reply back. Kindly do not PM him or quote him unless required as I am in direct talks with him.
adfad666 is a well known developer but I am not sure if he is interested in development for Xperia L. Can you ask him if he is interested in development for Xperia L. If suppose he is, we can give him incentives to work for our device. Just see what he says about it.
As far as CM is concerned, they still havenot got the device yet. And they NEVER announce support for any device until they have made CM already. It's really surprising as I have never seen CM add a device with no build but I hope it means good news for Xperia L.
About donations, it's not that we are doing a FAVOUR to developers but simply incentives / ways to have enough money to buy the device. That's it. Developers need devices until they can actually make the ROMS. In real, they are the ones who are helping us!
You can support developers by buying their apps on google play,however, I am not providing links until a developer confirms he is serious about Xperia L.
I can not tell you more at this point as some things need to be sorted out between developers and it is just in "suggestion phase"
We only need one CUSTOM rom like CM and I am sure, many small developers will base their ROMS on it. So we will soon have a lot of custom ROMS.
Around 4 people have asked for alternative ways to donate apart from paypal/credit card. If any one has suggestions, do write them.
Update:
I got exam this monday and tuesday so I might not write back soon
Update 2 : started a forum. Link in the first post. Check it out and support the thread.
@serajr
@naitik2012
@steeserious
@siankatabg

I am sorry to break this disappoint you
MAJOR UPDATE :
I hate to disappoint you all but it seems that we won't see any custom ROM till the end of January unless we find a developer. I have talked to my sources and I can only break to you this news.There is nothing brewing at the moment in official CM either.
However it's very possible that someone is working on a Rom whom I don't know.
uberlaggydarwin is developer from Xperia SP and he is interested. He got a bootable CM and done quite a work but he hasnot got the device itself.
He had been working on the device of his friend which wouldnot be available to him any more. I am not sure what happens next and I will update you if i have any more updates.
Kindly do not ask about my sources as I simply can't.
Unless we attract any other developer, we are on our own. So if anyone can help or reach developers, kindly share.
The main reason for no real roms for Xperia L is develoeprs not ready to buy this device.
UPDATE 26/11/2013
I am in talks with few more developers who have shown interest in Xperia L. I am trying my best to get developers for your device!
I will give you good news soon. Currently I am trying to hunt down DOOMLORD who is also very experienced developer at XDA. I am also in talks with others but it's very early to say anything till yet. I am hoping to get a reply from DoomLord by tomorrow!
Uberlaggydarwin :Just wanted to give a big shoutout/thanks to Stefan Ernst (steeserious?) from Germany and Jon Nightingale from Australia (don't know your alias mate )
They donated a generous amount to buy me a Xperia L so my Xperia L followers can get CM on their devices too and all the others who bought my app
I'm not there yet though. Let's see if we can sort out something by the end of December
You all rock!
Can't wait to be rocking an AOSP rom on my device with you.
He is still short on donations !
UPDATE 29/11/13
I had talks with uberlaggydarwin and he is still short on cash to buy Xperia L device. He is serious about Xperia L if you can help him buy the device. Also, we talked about how we can send him donations apart from his paypal & google play apps. Check third post of this thread to donate. Moreover, if you can not donate yourself, you can ask someone to donate via their paypal/bank account and you can hand them cash. 5 to 10 dollars isnot a big deal. You spend that amount of money on fast food. Come On guys!!!
Other developers that I have talked with havenot given any positive response so till now we only have hope of uberlaggydarwin!
Currently uberlaggydarwin has got exams so I might not be able to reach uberlaggydarwin

i would like to port ROM existenZ rom(Niaboc79) ,, now what i just need is kernel with working CWM :'(

Xenodrome_ said:
i would like to port ROM existenZ rom(Niaboc79) ,, now what i just need is kernel with working CWM :'(
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There is a kernel with working CWM for 4.2.2 ,, Just without WiFi Working
Here it is : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2499061&page=3

serajr said:
Buddy... I can ensure you that you wrote every word I´d like to have written!!
A very big thanks for you... and I hope everyone here read, understand and feel the real purpose behind those words.
Simply awesome!! Hats off!!!
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naitik2012 said:
if possible can u add two names >
@adfad666
@uberlaggydarwin
Thanks
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steeserious said:
Just bought a Xperia L the other week and I have to say the XL forums here on xda really baffled me.
I owned a X8 before and it was weird to see the little development and loads of nonsense here. That was surprising to me when looking at the specs and the price tag of this phone.
Thanks for this thread, I'm looking forward to supporting any good and motivated dev. :good:
I think I uberlaggydarwin was stating interest in working on the XL as soon as he gets his hands on it. Also, CM has added the XL to their database on their website.
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siankatabg said:
Same here, I'm coming from Neo V(Xperia 2011)there have really good development. nAa make 3.4 kernel for it and one great dev(mike) bring cm10.1/2 and now he boot cm11...
I saw the spec and the price of this device, but I forgot to search and see what development going here...But I'm optimistic for this device and I think that if we get Cm10.1/2/11 development will start with full speed.
And just to tell you,this in the Cm site is just placeholder and uberlaggydarwin start to work on cm10.1 for our device, but he don't have the device I want to help him with donate but I don't have a credit card...Will try to find someone to donate from me.
Sent from my C2105 using xda app-developers app
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Xenodrome_ said:
i would like to port ROM existenZ rom(Niaboc79) ,, now what i just need is kernel with working CWM :'(
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Sparksys said:
There is a kernel with working CWM for 4.2.2 ,, Just without WiFi Working
Here it is : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2499061&page=3
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I have started Updating about Xperia L development on second post. Do check it regularly. I need your support in case any developer is ready to help us. Kindly if you can donate or are ready to use device for test versions and submit logs to developers, that be great!
Even if you can not do any of the above, you can suggest opinions and think of ways to be helpful.

you might wanna check uberlaggydarwin's Google+, cm might not be too far away.

steeserious said:
you might wanna check uberlaggydarwin's Google+, cm might not be too far away.
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I am in direct talks with him. Thank you !

Good news from Brinly Taylor
Just wanted to give a big shoutout/thanks to steeserious from Germany and Jon Nightingale from Australia (don't know your alias mate )
They donated a generous amount to buy me a Xperia L so my Xperia L followers can get CM on their devices too and all the others who bought my app
I'm not there yet though. Let's see if we can sort out something by the end of november
You all rock!
Can't wait to be rocking an AOSP rom on my device with you.
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ileeba7 said:
Good news from Brinly Taylor
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Its already been mentioned in updates. Kindly don't rewrite something already present or if you want to donate or you have something really important to share.

I just donated U$5, may not be much, but i hope it helps a little bit. After 6/12 i will know how much i have free from my budget of December.

Also donated!

Adios fit users :'(

Hey guys, finally the time has come for me to leave this thread. I bought nexus 5 at last and hence i will be moved to that forum. Its been 3years since i bought this device and spent with xda for atleast 2 and half years . Those were the days where development used to be on full swing. I used to check our device forum everyday to see updates from our devs. I think most of them bought new devices and left this forum. So, that's it. Take care everyone. I sincerely hope that you too would get new device at some stage Until then, help fellow members who ask for help.

True. i still use it with Cm7 offcourse. I bought nexus 7 so using gfit for call n Whatsapp purpose only. There was a time when we donated to TheWhisp for our device's ICS update. Gone r those days.
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Those days used to be so much fun especially while we are still waiting for ICS stable build where maclaw used to be developer. Even many of us donated to him i think. Anyways, i'm gonna miss all the fun times spent here :'(

swat4samp said:
Hey guys, finally the time has come for me to leave this thread. I bought nexus 5 at last and hence i will be moved to that forum. Its been 3years since i bought this device and spent with xda for atleast 2 and half years . Those were the days where development used to be on full swing. I used to check our device forum everyday to see updates from our devs. I think most of them bought new devices and left this forum. So, that's it. Take care everyone. I sincerely hope that you too would get new device at some stage Until then, help fellow members who ask for help.
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Congratulations man! :highfive: :good: I hope she gives you more love than FIT...

Dhanesh95 said:
Congratulations man! :highfive: :good: I hope she gives you more love than FIT...
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Oh you never know

Donations for development.

I have i suggestion, and I don't know if someone else has posted something like this before, but why don't we make some donation so we can buy the z3 for the rom developers like we did with the Xperia Z2? Sorry for my bad English.

With all my respect for the devs on XDA these guys are doing an amazing job on Xperia development... [NUT], Niaboc79, monx, Doomlord

I'll give 20 euros but I don't use PayPal.

I'm in! Don't know who should get one first, though.

Count me in!
Maybe we should make a Root Bounty thread, like they did for the Z1s (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2644946)

Maybe we should tag the devs in this thread so we can get there opinion on the idea?

I could build rom for Z3 and Z3c if the community is able to give me one of them
Start a bounty thread with someone ready to receive donations then when the right amount is reached, send the money to a dev

Will donate for root with locked bootloader.

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I could build rom for Z3 and Z3c if the community is able to give me one of them
Start a bounty thread with someone ready to receive donations then when the right amount is reached, send the money to a dev
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I would love to see the eXistenZ rom on the Z3

And if i am not wrong, I think @monx got the Z3 already.

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And if i am not wrong, I think @monx got the Z3 already.
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We need @DooMLoRD, @niaboc79 and @[NUT]

I'm in 20 $. We need someone with good reputation and free time, to start a Thread. Best idea as i think someone from xda staff.
I think z3c users will join us.
And here was another thread with the same idea

I am in with 50€. Let's get this thing started.

I'm in with $20 dollars

no disrespect to other devs.. @DooMLoRD for mind as he has proven track record with exploits, kernels, guides etc plus lots of other awesome support. roms come and go but multi-purpose developers worth their weight in gold

I'm willing to donate something too, but for kickstarting the Verizon Z3v variant because we've yet to achieve root. :/
Sent from my D6708

I'm also willing to donate for a root solution for t-mobille Z3.

I'm in too, of course. Great community to help each other, and this is the way we ( without such a knowledge like our pros ) can do it.
Sent from my Z3 Monster

Same here! Count me in with 20€
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Ok so if people in here trust me, I will be willing to open a new thread with my paypal info so people can donate and i will keep the list updated. I have alot of free time. And maybe we can make a vote system so the people who make a donation can vote on the dev they want to buy a device for? What do you guys think?

The future of P2-development

Good afternoon Lenovo P2-community,
I bought the P2 this week and afterwards I realised , that the main developers wzedlare and EypCnn left to the Moto G5-community just in time.
What about other developers or those who want to become one, is there a chance to see continous builds of LineageOS e.g.?
It would be extremely sad if not..
Please update me - how are the odds for a revival of the P2 development?
Best regards
swatchfb
Edit:
It's done once and twice officially. Thanks @mikeioannina

Unless we get a Dev that takes donations or something like that.

I for one would donate for an official lineage OS.

swatchfb said:
Good afternoon Lenovo P2-community,
I bought the P2 this week and afterwards I realised , that the main developers wzedlare and EypCnn left to the Moto G5-community just in time.
What about other developers or those who want to become one, is there a chance to see continous builds of LineageOS e.g.?
It would by extremely sad if not..
Please update me - how are the odds for a revival of the P2 development?
Best regards
swatchfb
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Yes it's really sad to see a this much good device not having the development it deserves.Its competitor redmi note 4 which is inferior to p2 has a lot better development. I think this device isn't sold much like moto g5 plus and redmi note 4.Atleast here in India, sale is very less and other devices have been sold at least upto 100 times more.I am still skeptical about the development.P1 doesn't have a great development either.We have roms but they are buggy.Would have been nice to have wzedlare and egypcnn here

I would donate too...
Damn, why did they go to the Moto G5? It's clearly a downgrade -.-

swatchfb said:
I would donate too...
Damn, why did they go to the Moto G5? It's clearly a downgrade -.-
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Exactly Even I don't get it.And they had done so much work for 3-4 months,They almost gave us a stable rom.P2 is so much better than g5.If it would have been g5 plus i would have understood but g5!!!.I don't understand

Buy me a second P2 to dedicate to development and I will gladly continue the bringup to the point of full functionality. While I do have a P2 myself I can't afford messing with it too much as it's my work phone and I need it to be stable and reachable.

MrColdbird said:
Buy me a second P2 to dedicate to development and I will gladly continue the bringup to the point of full functionality. While I do have a P2 myself I can't afford messing with it too much as it's my work phone and I need it to be stable and reachable.
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You can compile builds brother,we are here to test .I will be your tester.But please be there for at least 1-2 years.
Just like I do with my mi 4,I test builds and the developer has been there for at least 2 years.
But plz do something for this awesome device:crying:

I'm definitely not going to do "blind-runs" and jeopardize other people's devices with builds I haven't tested myself.
Not only is it irresponsible but also extremely slow to do, even with a group of dedicated testers.

As if we knew how many people are interested in it, one could think about a collection of money.

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I'm definitely not going to do "blind-runs" and jeopardize other people's devices with builds I haven't tested myself.
Not only is it irresponsible but also extremely slow to do, even with a group of dedicated testers.
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How unstable can they be , if calling and internet works,I don't mind flashing that build.If we want something for our device,we will have to do this.
Maybe yes that can be slow,I agree.But I don't think we will be able to raise that much money to buy a new device altogether.I am still a student I can't contribute money

If you trust me enough to do this then you can always hit the Donate button linked to my XDA profile.
Just make sure you leave a note on your donation telling me what the money is meant to be used for.
If enough money accumulates for a amazon.de order of an P2, then I can just straight out buy a development device there.
That is the beauty of XDA though, if enough people want it, and each of those people dishes out 5-10 bucks, then financing something like this is easy.

MrColdbird said:
If you trust me enough to do this then you can always hit the Donate button linked to my XDA profile.
Just make sure you leave a note on your donation telling me what the money is meant to be used for.
If enough money accumulates for a amazon.de order of an P2, then I can just straight out buy a development device there.
That is the beauty of XDA though, if enough people want it, and each of those people dishes out 5-10 bucks, then financing something like this is easy.
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Let's see if we are able to ,but I don't think there are enough people to contribute.We will have to wait for a new developer.Hope he comes soon....
Your zuk z1 is in working condition?I mean you use it or not?

I would spend 20 bucks.
Maybe we should do a survey to see how many would follow

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Let's see if we are able to ,but I don't think there are enough people to contribute.We will have to wait for a new developer.Hope he comes soon....
Your zuk z1 is in working condition?I mean you use it or not?
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It's working fine and is currently in the possession of my wife.
Although I must admit she isn't the easiest-going woman and the device has seen its fair share of scruff marks since I've handed it over to her.

Hey why start from scratch when we have almost stable builds... Just ask permission for maintainer or just fork the changes. We already have a couple of working ROMs that are risk free. If you could, then try developing on it. Improve it.
Like everyone said raising money for a device is very difficult and slow. Try making modifications to the official RR or unofficial LOS. You'll receive donations for that I'm pretty sure you will.

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Hey why start from scratch when we have almost stable builds... Just ask permission for maintainer or just fork the changes. We already have a couple of working ROMs that are risk free. If you could, then try developing on it. Improve it.
Like everyone said raising money for a device is very difficult and slow. Try making modifications to the official RR or unofficial LOS. You'll receive donations for that I'm pretty sure you will.
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Very well said ,this makes more sense. Why do extra work when wzedlare and eypCnn worked for 3 months,just continue from that.And they have already said that any developer can continue from their work. :good:

Yep, sad to see a great phone like the P2 no longer have any development on XDA
Having said that the latest Nougat stock ROM is pretty good, especially in its deodexed version, and rooted. Some tweaks are missing though, like Ambient Display (is there really no way to add that with an APK ?) and customization of the pressed on the HOME button (like double-press). Now that the source code is out would it take a lot of work for a developer to add some of these tweaks ?

Okay the two Turkish devs we had left, but this is going nowhere. While donations are always appreciated asking for money to continue the development is a matter of bad taste imo. I can try to continue the Resurrection Remix builds. Also porting roms from Redmi Note 4X (SD625) should be pretty easy as the hardware is very similar. I had ported thousands of roms for Oukitel K6000 Pro, I was the first who brought Nougat to this phone (Dec 2016, when the official Nougat arrived 5 months later) and then back in time the community was in the same position lacking development so I was just driven to try it by myself. After all source code and device tree are all there, almost anyone with a basic knowledge and free time can build a rom. Give it time and I'm sure that new devs will appear.
Meanwhile I opened a new test builds thread

911-Future_Maker said:
Okay the two Turkish devs we had left, but this is going nowhere. While donations are always appreciated asking for money to continue the development is a matter of bad taste imo. I can try to continue the Resurrection Remix builds. Also porting roms from Redmi Note 4X (SD625) should be pretty easy as the hardware is very similar. I had ported thousands of roms for Oukitel K6000 Pro, I was the first who brought Nougat to this phone (Dec 2016, when the official Nougat arrived 5 months later) and then back in time the community was in the same position lacking development so I was just driven to try it by myself. After all source code and device tree are all there, almost anyone with a basic knowledge and free time can build a rom. Give it time and I'm sure that new devs will appear.
Meanwhile I opened a new test builds thread
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It is easy to port from Redmi 4.I know it because I ported some roms in the past.
Take etc/firmware from p2.
Take kernel(zimage) from p2
Take fstab.qcom and ueventd.qcom.rc from p2.Then it will boot but you will have a lot of bugs.It is nice to see someone hustling for a rom.If you want to port from redmi note 4, you should also take whole /vendor folder.Good luck.

Providing ajsmsg78 a X2 device, in order to keep the X2 development going

Hi every one
As most of you know, ajsmsg78 has been the main developer for the mediapad X2 here on xda, providing a lot of help, and some very useful ROMs for our device. I already discuss about that with him in january 2017, but the idea is back now:
audioralf on june 5th 2017 said:
So we need AJ. He is the only person, who might solve this.
The problem is, that he has sold his x2 some weeks ago.
The solution to profit from his know-how is to send him a used x2. Maybe some of us has a new phone and does not need the x2 anymore or has a replacement, because of a cracked display glass but functional device.
We know that there is a donation button besides his name.
So if you had profited from AJ work for free in the last months please reply in this thread that you are willing to put a gift in the collection.
Let's see how many people will support this. Than we could calculate how much it is for each one.
AJ has alternatively offered to send back a device if someone will borrow his one.
Than we would only need a few bucks for the mail.
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So, in order to let ajsmsg78 keep helping everyone around here, and update his "Kanvip Slim" and "simply international" very usefull custom ROMs (to include the new fixes added in huawei official roms these last month), that would be great to getting him a X2 device! Here are some ways:
- asking the users that posted about broken screen once, if they would cheaply sell (or lent) their device if not repaired!
- finding a cheap used X2 to sell, on the internet
- donate to ajsmsg78 via his paypal adress available on his profile
Thanks for helping development for the X2, to stay alive!!
PS: any other ideas are welcome!

..... I m really willing to donate for this project, but how do I know how much we need to?!
It is sad to see so less interest even here at XDA
Over that it looks like our beloved X2 is sold out nearly everywhere.......
Hope there will be a final KangVIP inclusive BT fix .....

I have at least device for him
I'm wainting fo his answer !

Yesterday I sent à GEM-703L 3Gb/32Gb to @ajsmsg78. He should have it in a week!

Wow you're a hero. Thank you for doing that for us. Can't wait to have a properly working x2 without problems with GPS and microphone
Djiban said:
Yesterday I sent à GEM-703L 3Gb/32Gb to @ajsmsg78. He should have it in a week!
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mcdhol_24 said:
Can't wait to have a properly working x2 without problems with GPS and microphone
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Please share your bugs, by giving your rom tests and device type, here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mediapad-x2/help/android-6-rom-gps-push-issues-t3631187
thanks

This is great news! I really hope he continues the CM13 build. Sooooo fast and clean without emui . Thanks Djiban!

durv said:
This is great news! I really hope he continues the CM13 build. Sooooo fast and clean without emui . Thanks Djiban!
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It's a port so there are things that may never work (like VOLTE). The key is to use the files from stock EMIU to replace the files in the CM13 rom that are causing some of the bugs. The hard part is figuring out which files need replacing.

ajsmsg78 said:
It's a port so there are things that may never work (like VOLTE). The key is to use the files from stock EMIU to replace the files in the CM13 rom that are causing some of the bugs. The hard part is figuring out which files need replacing.
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GitHub OpenKirin helpful at all? Guessing that's a starting point.

Please, try to continue about CM13 fixing in its thread. Thanks!

Djiban said:
Please, try to continue about CM13 fixing in its thread. Thanks!
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I am completely with you, I would like to have a correct Video cam. The cyanogen ist the best rom ever on this device.?

ajsmsg78 received the device a few hours ago

donate
Im willing to donate

tengxunkuku said:
Im willing to donate
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Me too, if camera is correct?

Please, Go to @ajsmsg78 profile to donate!

Right now, I sent 25 Euro (30 USD)to his PayPal account (to friends) to support him. He is doing a great work. Let us give him our respect and some bucks to develop.

MalcomX said:
Right now, I sent 25 Euro (30 USD)to his PayPal account (to friends) to support him. He is doing a great work. Let us give him our respect and some bucks to develop.
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Thank you very much! When Google fixes the Play Store error 404 issues I'll have a KangVIP Slim v4 release.