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[Q] Would You Replace It?

Well, I finally received my Transformer 32GB today from Newegg and I must say that I am absolutely in love with it; despite some minor issues. Don't worry, I plan on doing a "first impressions" review shortly.
Anyways, I did notice some light bleed when looking for it and now I can't really seem to get over it. However, I tend to be a bit paranoid about things so I figured I would ask you guys for some advice before just asking for a replacement.
I took these pictures at full brightness in a completely dark room. For some reason, the camera seemed to have reduced the severity of the light bleed a bit (thought it would do the opposite). Basically, one can see light leakage on the bottom (to the right of the logo) and a couple on the middle of the right of the display.
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Would you guys get this replaced if you were me? My main concern is that the replacement yields even more leakage than the original.
PS - The bezel and screen seem to be perfectly aligned. I also have very little creaking near the right bezel.

I have some light bleed too, but only a little in the lower left corner. If mine were as bad as yours, I would replace. Yours is affecting 25% of your screen or more...
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Man, I am having the same problem. Every day I have the dilemma " should I replace it? - but I love it so much and what if the next one is crap"
Lol, tough call.
If you bought it from a good retailer (one that doesn't charge a restocking fee, I say go for the swap, since light bleeds are a sign of a defect)
Unfortunately for me, my retailer was crappy and charges 15% to restock, which means 75$ just to replace the device. Thumbs way down

Mine has bleeding on the left and right side of the screen, but I really only see it when I'm rebooting and the black screen comes on. I have not ran into any issues while using the tablet where I notice the bleeding so I don't really think its that big of a deal unless your watching a dark movie maybe.

Honestly dude, just listen to your common sense. Disregard what I or anybody else on these forums may say to you. The majority of people here lack sense which leads them to constantly complain about minor issues.
Think to yourself first would you have notices this without the help of this forum?
Does the issue harm the performance of the device?
Does it take away from the devices beauty?
Will any of your friends or family notice?
These among other questions are what you should ponder before making a decision...
I can tell you from my experience as being one of the first people to own a Tmobile G1, Mytouch and Sprint Evo 4g as well as an owner of many other devices including laptops, tvs, cars, radios, video game systems, video games, etc etc etc... You can return and exchange all you want but you will never find the PERFECT(Definition:Make (something) completely free from faults or defects) device or product...
Good Luck with your decision!

Wow... thanks for all your comments. I was expecting some "C'mon... another one of these?!" threads.
@gadgetfan: For some reason the blushing on the bottom right and left corners are not visible at all. I think it was some crazy processing that my camera did. Maybe due to the white text on those areas and the angle the pictures were taken. I only really notice the 1"-long bleeds on the bottom and right of the screen.
I ordered mine from Newegg so I know I'm good on getting it replaced. The problem is when will it actually get replaced? And if it does get replaced, will it be worst then the current one?
I was thinking of maybe waiting for it to get back in stock and try to snatch another one and seeing how that one is in comparison, then returning the worst of the two. Do you think these retailers would actually notice which is which inside the box?!

akarol said:
Do you think these retailers would actually notice which is which inside the box?!
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Isn't there a serial number on the box and on the unit. They should match.

The box isn't an issue as I can send the new box with the older unit in it. I highly doubt they'll be matching serial numbers as they usually send these off to the manufacturer to get refurbished anyways. If they ask, I can always tell them I accidentally swapped them by mistake. Right?!

sadly i have many stuck pixels but thanks for the fixel density they are only seen on a black screen, but BLACK, so i dont care i can live with that, or well sell it over here when they start to sell them here
edit: after using a simple app that shows many different colors, man the stuck pixels are on a black screen, no in every color (i have seen stuck pixels on my psp so i know when the problem its serious).
it doesnt affects me that much i can live with it.
the light bleed its minimal like 5%. low creacks.
in overall im happy

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The box isn't an issue as I can send the new box with the older unit in it. I highly doubt they'll be matching serial numbers as they usually send these off to the manufacturer to get refurbished anyways. If they ask, I can always tell them I accidentally swapped them by mistake. Right?!
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Why not just send in the old unit with the old box? I doubt newegg scans the S/N.
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Asadroid said:
sadly i have many stuck pixels but thanks for the fixel density they are only seen on a black screen, but BLACK, so i dont care i can live with that, or well sell it over here when they start to sell them here
edit: after using a simple app that shows many different colors, man the stuck pixels are on a black screen, no in every color (i have seen stuck pixels on my psp so i know when the problem its serious).
it doesnt affects me that much i can live with it.
the light bleed its minimal like 5%. low creacks.
in overall im happy
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Stuck/dead pixels drive me crazy. Once I see them it's as if I ALWAYS notice them. I replaced my 21.5 inch monitor and my G-Tablet because of one stuck pixel. I figure if I can get a free replacement then I'm going to replace it until I get a "perfect' one.
To the OP, the light bleed looks pretty bad. Personally I'd try to to replace it.

Enectic said:
Stuck/dead pixels drive me crazy. Once I see them it's as if I ALWAYS notice them. I replaced my 21.5 inch monitor and my G-Tablet because of one stuck pixel. I figure if I can get a free replacement then I'm going to replace it until I get a "perfect' one.
To the OP, the light bleed looks pretty bad. Personally I'd try to to replace it.
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well since i dont see a dead pixel outside of a black screen i dont care, and my eyes hurts after going trough a RGB series of colors @[email protected] testing if i could see them
and im not up to pay the cost of the shipping to get a replacemnet

I wouldn't think twice about replacing it if I found a single stuck pixel on anything I own. Bleeds are hit or miss as some are way less noticeable than others.
Can anyone here honestly say that their TF is completely free of any light bleeds? If so, can they prove it?

Not to hijack the thread but this seems related:
I just picked up a 32gig model last night from a local retailer and there's a small (1mm-ish) gap between the bezel and the screen right where the hdmi port is.
There's a little light bleed in that area, which honestly doesn't bother me, but I am worried about dust getting in that gap.
Worthy of a return or am I worrying too much?

I would return it if mine had any gap whatsoever.
BTW, I just ordered one from WalMart and I'll compare it to the one I already have. I'll let you guys know how it turns out.

The creak on the bottom right drives me nuts. The rear of the unit actually flexes around that area. Just doesn't feel very good. I also have issues with the touch screen not responding. I was going to make a topic on it, hoping it was just mine, but I guess it's just a transformer thing and I should either deal with it or return it and find something else.

In all my years of being a computer/gadget geek, I just haven't been able to wrap my head around the huge issue people have with light bleed. Just how many people sit in pure darkness everyday just to watch movies? I wish I had enough time to do this just so I could be mad at having light bleed. If the movies filled up the entire screen (some don't) then it should barely be an issue. The only time it's really noticeable is full brightness on a solid black picture.

What does it look like on a non-completely black screen?

akarol said:
I would return it if mine had any gap whatsoever.
BTW, I just ordered one from WalMart and I'll compare it to the one I already have. I'll let you guys know how it turns out.
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Thanks for the input. I just wanted another opinion to make sure I wasn't being overly paranoid.
They're sold out again but I'm on the list for an exchange once they get more.

From my experience, I've seen 3 tablets, there is bad light bleed and tolerable light bleed. Soft light bleed is very tolerable and looks like a dull half circle of light, however, I've seen light bleed where it is a sharp bright light which looks like a triangle and completely bugged the hell out of me.
I would definitely return a creaky bezel. My 1st one had it and that is where the worst light bleed was. Pressing that point made the light bleed change. My other 2 had no creaking.
Just a suggestion, watch a dark movie, such as "The Dark Knight" and see if the light bleed bothers you. If not, keep it, otherwise exchange it. I believe movies are where it will be the most bothersome.

Minor Black Crush/Clipping on Galaxy Note 3

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hghivtnkhejph4r/P1010443.JPG
On top is my Galaxy Note II, and on the bottom is my Galaxy Note 3. Not sure if it's all devices or its just on some including mine. It is adjusted by firmware as other galaxy models have demonstrated in the past, so I think it will probably be adjusted in a firmware update in the future, but I just thought I would share. I had my device on at full brightness with auto adjust screen tones off. Then I took a 15 second exposure on my DSLR to confirm that at least "2", and "1" are indeed crushed, and the pixels representing the block for those numbers emit no light at all.
The mess around the numbers are probably jpeg artifacts.
I got the file from an old Galaxy Note (1) thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1559800
Here's a copy of the file. It may look mostly black, but it's not. You would need to look at it in a dark room to see it on maximum brightness.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4fale5naqlpbwei/gammatest-xda.png

I dont understand these stupid threads that pop up every time a device shows up, every single time a freakin new device comes up, some guys start putting the screen under the microscope to check for inconsistencies. Whats the point of this? Does your screen look nice when you use it? YES IT DOES, then why scrutinize every single little aspect of it just to show it has some imperfection? Ridiculous

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I dont understand these stupid threads that pop up every time a device shows up, every single time a freakin new device comes up, some guys start putting the screen under the microscope to check for inconsistencies. Whats the point of this? Does your screen look nice when you use it? YES IT DOES, then why scrutinize every single little aspect of it just to show it has some imperfection? Ridiculous
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I know, right?!
I also don't understand how some guys who see a "pointless" thread have the need to take actual time from their supposedly busy lives to bash the threads instead of simply moving on with their lives, understanding that they aren't the standard-setters for what is or isn't important to other people.

Not this again, I remember people bleeting about this in the S2 days, if it does have a small issue, who cares, it's not like your TV where you watch media on it all the while you're at home. Think I can cope with the small issue with occasional film I may watch on it.
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Before everyone freaks out, here's some background. The issue OP's discussing has been around since the first AMOLED display. It's varied in severity on different models of Samsung phones.
Here's a SGS3 vs. N2 comparison done by SuperCurio...
Here's the video with SuperCurio explaining the issue...
Here's OP's N2 vs. N3 comparison...
Compared to other Samsung devices the issue on the N3 is relatively minor. It can also vary from display to display and updates have impacted it before. As OP said, the issue's pretty minor on the N3; at least to compared to some of Samsung's other phones. OP, is the device you're using pre-release or production (retail)?
It is what it is. From what's been shown I'm not concerned. Let's see some more sample's from production phones from different regions before we all freak out.

polish_pat said:
I dont understand these stupid threads that pop up every time a device shows up, every single time a freakin new device comes up, some guys start putting the screen under the microscope to check for inconsistencies. Whats the point of this? Does your screen look nice when you use it? YES IT DOES, then why scrutinize every single little aspect of it just to show it has some imperfection? Ridiculous
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I totally agree with you !

polish_pat said:
I dont understand these stupid threads that pop up every time a device shows up, every single time a freakin new device comes up, some guys start putting the screen under the microscope to check for inconsistencies. Whats the point of this? Does your screen look nice when you use it? YES IT DOES, then why scrutinize every single little aspect of it just to show it has some imperfection? Ridiculous
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Hey I'm glad the OP posted it. I'm spending $700+ on this device, I would like to know every software glitch, every hardware imperfection, any flaws major or minor exposed. Just because it's Samsung's top of the line phone doesn't mean it deserves a free pass from scrutiny like it's some paragon of hardware excellence.
I don't get why people get so defensive about a piece of electronic. Ya'll working for Samsung's engineering department or what?

Thanks for letting us know, Mike. Hope to see more youtube videos from you about the note3.

Dan37tz said:
Hey I'm glad the OP posted it. I'm spending $700+ on this device, I would like to know every software glitch, every hardware imperfection, any flaws major or minor exposed. Just because it's Samsung's top of the line phone doesn't mean it deserves a free pass from scrutiny like it's some paragon of hardware excellence.
I don't get why people get so defensive about a piece of electronic. Ya'll working for Samsung's engineering department or what?
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Even when you buy a 5000$ laptop, screen bleeding and dead pixels will be there and they are accepted as being an industry standard. The real issue is it doesnt affect in any way how you use or enjoy the device, so why complain. All devices i had, had an XDA thread with hundreds of people that compalined about greens that are too green, or "blobs" for those that had an S3....its ridiculous. Thats how screens are made, they arent perfect

This post brings me back those very unpleasent memories of black clipping which suffered my first Samsung Galaxy Note.(quivering)

polish_pat said:
Even when you buy a 5000$ laptop, screen bleeding and dead pixels will be there and they are accepted as being an industry standard. The real issue is it doesnt affect in any way how you use or enjoy the device, so why complain. All devices i had, had an XDA thread with hundreds of people that compalined about greens that are too green, or "blobs" for those that had an S3....its ridiculous. Thats how screens are made, they arent perfect
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accepted by you maybe... I'd make them eat the laptop if they didn't give me what was advertised.

and in daily use when are you going to notice this? i had a note 2 for 6 months and didnt have an issue. you guys get too worried and worked up about such little stuff

Dan37tz said:
Hey I'm glad the OP posted it. I'm spending $700+ on this device, I would like to know every software glitch, every hardware imperfection, any flaws major or minor exposed. Just because it's Samsung's top of the line phone doesn't mean it deserves a free pass from scrutiny like it's some paragon of hardware excellence.
I don't get why people get so defensive about a piece of electronic. Ya'll working for Samsung's engineering department or what?
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I agree. It's more so awareness rather than complaining about it. To be blindsided with issues post purchase would be worse than knowing walking into it

systoxity said:
accepted by you maybe... I'd make them eat the laptop if they didn't give me what was advertised.
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Its not accepted by me, its an industry standard. Do you know what that means? ISO certification of screen allow 3-5 dead pixels and screen bleeding

Dan37tz said:
I don't get why people get so defensive about a piece of electronic. Ya'll working for Samsung's engineering department or what?
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It's not the "what," it's the "how." I'm tired of scintillating thread titles declaring the end of the world as we know it backed up by little evidence or circumstantial opinion as their basis. Your "the N3 lags like the SGS4" thread comes to mind. You started it based on something you saw in an Italian review that turned out to be the opposite of what you posted once it was translated by an Italian XDA member.
I do agree with you though. I want to know what the issues (and there are bound to be issues) with the N3 are. But I'd like some context (when, where, how many, and how often) to go along with them so I can figure out what they'll mean to me. Spoiler alert: if I have to lock myself in a dark room and adjust settings to levels I'd never normally use to replicate a problem then, for me, it's not a problem. Of course YMMV.
This thread's a good example of how to introduce an issue. OP titled the thread "minor" rather than using "OMG!!!" and "THIS IS AWFUL!!!" and posted documentation to support what he found. That leaves it up to the audience to form their own opinions. And whether it's what OP posted or other issues that have been discussed the friggin' phone isn't even in people's hands yet. So disaster could be on the horizon in a number of areas but it's a bit too early to declare "the sky is falling."
Peace out.

Adapt display
I saw an "adapt display" option in this Note 3 video: http://youtu.be/S2Yr7PvgKQw?t=8m52s
Do you think calibrating the screen with it would solve the problem?

vgergo said:
I saw an "adapt display" option in this Note 3 video: http://youtu.be/S2Yr7PvgKQw?t=8m52s
Do you think calibrating the screen with it would solve the problem?
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adapt display has nothing to do with calibration, just like in the S4, it just changes color saturation

I can't believe u ****s are still buying Samsung phone since u know they have black crush issue.if amoled bothers u so much,why buy Samsung phone.u can go buy HTC of lg.every device have some issues even ur beloved I phones.stop with these stupid threads.if you have to find faults with microscopes then tell everyone to check their phones.only reason I'm posting because of some people want perfect phone keep calling for warranty replacement and when I have real issue with my phone then att gives me hard time replacing it.

mintu123 said:
I can't believe u ****s are still buying Samsung phone since u know they have black crush issue.if amoled bothers u so much,why buy Samsung phone.u can go buy HTC of lg.every device have some issues even ur beloved I phones.stop with these stupid threads.if you have to find faults with microscopes then tell everyone to check their phones.only reason I'm posting because of some people want perfect phone keep calling for warranty replacement and when I have real issue with my phone then at gives me hard time replacing it.
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would you mind me quoting/linking your post to my signature?

polish_pat said:
Its not accepted by me, its an industry standard. Do you know what that means? ISO certification of screen allow 3-5 dead pixels and screen bleeding
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Thank god industry standard just means how much they can get away with before enough people feed their laptops back to them. Never take crap laying down. Always complain if you feel like something's not right. How else would things change for the better?

Think UV light will fix your OnePlus One yellow band completely? Think again...

Received my OnePlus One yesterday and I have to say I am completely head over heels in love with it.
But..... I'm OCD when it comes to my electronics and of course mine had to come with the nasty yellow banding at the bottom.
I'm thinking I might have gotten a customer's return which is weird because it was completely sealed, I had to open it by pulling the threaded tab just like in all the unboxing videos. When I went into gallery, there were about 100+ personal pictures of some random dude and his family, a bunch of downloaded crap, ringtones, other 3rd party browsers, Amazon apps, ect. Hell I even got some full length movies on there, Transformers and a bootleg cam'd version of Edge of Tomorrow. :laugh:
My guess is that OnePlus is putting customers returns into new packages and sending them out without even fully wiping them correctly. My unit looked like it was never touched, all the screen sticker ect. wow...just wow.
Anyways back to the yellow band, so I followed the advice of people all over the forums to use UV light to try and fix the issue. Well, good thing my mother in law owns a nail salon, I asked if I could take one home for a night. Took it out to the garage and went to work...
On the positive side it actually does help....a little. From a scale of 1-10, 10 being very yellow at the bottom and 1 being completely white at the top, under the UV light for 10 minutes, the yellow was reduced to I'd say a 7.
Bad news is that it doesn't improve any further after that, I put it in there for another 10 minutes and it didn't make a difference. Went crazy and left it in there for 45 minutes, still no improvement. Don't know if the UV damaged my digitizer but touch sensitivity seems to be degraded. Doesn't register my touches as nicely as before...
So there you have it, I left it in a professional nail salon UV machine for about an hour, way more than the recommended 15 minutes, it improved it a little bit but seemed to have messed with the touch sensitivity of the device.
Use UV at your own risk, I tried it and it helped but didn't fix it completely. I love the device too much so I'll be ordering another one when I get a chance.
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Another thing during work today I was experimenting with it and noticed if you apply light heat from a heat gun (lowest setting) the yellow COMPLETELY disappears. Unfortunately when it starts cooling down the yellow comes back.

Dan37tz said:
Another thing during work today I was experimenting with it and noticed if you apply light heat from a heat gun (lowest setting) the yellow COMPLETELY disappears. Unfortunately when it starts cooling down the yellow comes back.
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I left my OnePlus in the sun on the first morning after I got it. I put it in the morning sun while I got ready for work and made breakfast. On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being beyond unacceptable the phone started as a "5". I could definitely see it but it was clearly a "I'd be the only one to notice" amount of yellow. After about 1 hour of direct morning sun on a 75 degree morning it's a "1" now. Just a slightest of slight hints of yellow that may be the warm calibration of the phone.
That's my experience with the whole mess.

Dan37tz said:
Received my OnePlus One yesterday and I have to say I am completely head over heels in love with it.
But..... I'm OCD when it comes to my electronics and of course mine had to come with the nasty yellow banding at the bottom.
I'm thinking I might have gotten a customer's return which is weird because it was completely sealed, I had to open it by pulling the threaded tab just like in all the unboxing videos. When I went into gallery, there were about 100+ personal pictures of some random dude and his family, a bunch of downloaded crap, ringtones, other 3rd party browsers, Amazon apps, ect. Hell I even got some full length movies on there, Transformers and a bootleg cam'd version of Edge of Tomorrow. :laugh:
My guess is that OnePlus is putting customers returns into new packages and sending them out without even fully wiping them correctly. My unit looked like it was never touched, all the screen sticker ect. wow...just wow.
Anyways back to the yellow band, so I followed the advice of people all over the forums to use UV light to try and fix the issue. Well, good thing my mother in law owns a nail salon, I asked if I could take one home for a night. Took it out to the garage and went to work...
On the positive side it actually does help....a little. From a scale of 1-10, 10 being very yellow at the bottom and 1 being completely white at the top, under the UV light for 10 minutes, the yellow was reduced to I'd say a 7.
Bad news is that it doesn't improve any further after that, I put it in there for another 10 minutes and it didn't make a difference. Went crazy and left it in there for 45 minutes, still no improvement. Don't know if the UV damaged my digitizer but touch sensitivity seems to be degraded. Doesn't register my touches as nicely as before...
So there you have it, I left it in a professional nail salon UV machine for about an hour, way more than the recommended 15 minutes, it improved it a little bit but seemed to have messed with the touch sensitivity of the device.
Use UV at your own risk, I tried it and it helped but didn't fix it completely. I love the device too much so I'll be ordering another one when I get a chance.
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That's insane man, though not very surprising of OnePlus at this point. I guess paying $360 for a device of this caliber will numb any indignation. Did you buy it directly from OnePlus using an invite? What is the supposed build date of your phone? Where did it ship to you from? Everything seemed perfectly new when I got mine, the only thing that I thought was odd was the lack of any documentation, you know like a user guide, warranty, warnings etc. Did you get any?
As far as the yellowing goes, I feel that it is slowly fading away, and I haven't even exposed it to any California sunshine or heat, I've mostly used it in air conditioned areas.

I got mine without any defects, but I don't think keeping it under UV light for an hour would do good to any phone.
Why not root it and tweak RGB values with trickster to at least make it unnoticeable?
People bashing everyone but themselves as always.

latenightchameleon said:
I got mine without any defects, but I don't think keeping it under UV light for an hour would do good to any phone.
Why not root it and tweak RGB values with trickster to at least make it unnoticeable?
People bashing everyone but themselves as always.
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There is no need to use mods to adjust the RGB values on this device. You can do it with the stock ROM.
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mhannigan said:
There is no need to use mods to adjust the RGB values on this device. You can do it with the stock ROM.
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You can only control Hue, Saturation, Contrast, Intensity with the stock ROM. You cannot adjust RGB values, you'll need a custom kernel with this commit in order to adjust the RGB and I'm sure later down the line, there'll be gamma controls similar to the N5 on the OPO

I don't understand this yellow band madness.
If it will really go away just by exposing the phone to sunlight, well, just use the phone normally and it will go away soon or later.
I call this thing corksniffing, i know i come from guitar forums and we like this term over there.
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I cant believe they sent a used phone. Thats rediculious.
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DuckMcQUack said:
I don't understand this yellow band madness.
If it will really go away just by exposing the phone to sunlight, well, just use the phone normally and it will go away soon or later.
I call this thing corksniffing, i know i come from guitar forums and we like this term over there.
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I dont understand it either. Its more apparent in some phones than others. Unfortunately for me I can't use my one plus in this way. Never had to with any other phone, why should I now?
OP did you get a used phone and ordered with an invite from oneplus.net?
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selayan said:
I dont understand it either. Its more apparent in some phones than others. Unfortunately for me I can't use my one plus in this way. Never had to with any other phone, why should I now?
OP did you get a used phone and ordered with an invite from oneplus.net?
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Yes I ordered it directly from oneplus.net, I purchased the invite on eBay. Paid $100 for the invite... I know... but I just had zero patience and had to have it NOW! I felt like Veruca from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. :laugh:
So all in total I paid about $469.xx, but even at that price if seems like a steal. Paid almost $700 for my GS5 which feels like junk compared to this bad boy.
It's too bad about the hardcore yellow band at the bottom of mine, I think I found the perfect phone. The battery life on this thing is R-E-D-I-C-U-L-O-U-S! I swear it doesn't want to die.

That sucks it was a used one. To make it worse I would be livid paying over retail for it too and having a yellow band.
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i would be returning that immediately
Used phone? are you kidding?

spacemanvt said:
i would be returning that immediately
Used phone? are you kidding?
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Yeah at first I was going to return it but after hearing people had to pay $50+ to ship it back to China and no guarantees of getting back a perfect device, I decided against it.
I'm hoping my case is just an isolated incident, imagine the outrage if OnePlus was really putting customer's returns back in new sealed boxes and sending them out in order to meet demand?

They need to outsource a company to perform repairs and whatnot within the States.

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They need to outsource a company to perform repairs and whatnot within the States.
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They need to do a lot to gain respect. They are lucky people settle with the yellow screens. How can you say it's suppose to be like that? They can control the situation now and censor, deny rma, because of the invite system.
Imagine if the phone was released publicly. Stores would stop buying them because of returns and they would have a lot more people complaining than on the forums about a yellow screen.
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rickyx32 said:
That's insane man, though not very surprising of OnePlus at this point. I guess paying $360 for a device of this caliber will numb any indignation. Did you buy it directly from OnePlus using an invite? What is the supposed build date of your phone? Where did it ship to you from? Everything seemed perfectly new when I got mine, the only thing that I thought was odd was the lack of any documentation, you know like a user guide, warranty, warnings etc. Did you get any?
As far as the yellowing goes, I feel that it is slowly fading away, and I haven't even exposed it to any California sunshine or heat, I've mostly used it in air conditioned areas.
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Build date is July 2, 2014.
No documentation, just phone, charger cable and sim card keychain in the box. Box was completely sealed with plastic outside, does not looked tampered with at all.

Mine came with a dead pixel... I wonder.... Hmmm... I wonder if have a customer return.
Well not dead but its stuck and it can't be fixed since I've tried a million methods!!!!

Dragn4rce said:
Mine came with a dead pixel... I wonder.... Hmmm... I wonder if have a customer return.
Well not dead but its stuck and it can't be fixed since I've tried a million methods!!!!
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They will say one dead pixel is normal. You need 2-3 dead for a replacement.
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I left my OnePlus in the sun on the first morning after I got it. I put it in the morning sun while I got ready for work and made breakfast. On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being beyond unacceptable the phone started as a "5". I could definitely see it but it was clearly a "I'd be the only one to notice" amount of yellow. After about 1 hour of direct morning sun on a 75 degree morning it's a "1" now. Just a slightest of slight hints of yellow that may be the warm calibration of the phone.
That's my experience with the whole mess.
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will try this, thanks.

[REVIEW] Sharp Aquos Crystal X (402SH)

There is very little talk of this device on Xda, other than some mentions here and there on the regular Crystal forums.
Also, I have not yet seen any english speaking people giving a review of it on Youtube (or anywhere else for that matter). So far it has just been hands-on at Sharp stands and such.
I therefore thought it might be of interest to some, that I share my experiences.
Now I know this smartphone is not gonna be widely adopted outside of Japan.
Not having cdma or the 800mhz(?) gsm band used in the U.S, it seems silly for anyone to import this back to the the states. Taking into account that you have to add on the cost of getting it sim unlocked, makes it pretty pricey for a high end device (with previous gen "flagship" hardware).
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At the time of writing this, I have only had this device in my possession for two days.
Keep that in mind. I will therefore have problems with assessing battery life and similar things that need a bit more time to be accurately evaluated.
I guess the natural place to start would be:
Appearance
Biggest selling point is of course the edgeless 5.5 inch display.
I previously came from the the M8, before that, Z1.
I love htc's screens (Atleast since the HOX).
We all know the viewing angles of the Z1 (coming from the Z before that, I was stumped that they managed to fail twice on that front), but straight on it has the most natural looking colors of any smartphone I have ever had.
Let's say that the Z1 is at one end of the scale, M8 in the middle, and typical Samsung amoled screens at the other end. The Crystal X would imo fall between the Z1 and the M8, not so far off the htc. It looks the best of the three, and I'm sure that is just because there's more screen to look at
Under
Settings > wallpaper & display > Quality mode
you can choose color modes (Standard quality, Dynamic, Natural, Relax).
I have not had time to scrutinize the differences on a ton of photos and graphics just yet.
I have tried out Dynamic (which is default) and Natural a little. Relax looks absolutely crazy, and makes white and light colors get a sort beige tint.
@ 157 grams, the phone is right in my comfort zone.
Even though there is no metal body, it does not feel plasticky or anything like that.
The power button and the volume rocker are not wobbly, but stiff, and give off nice satisfying clicks.
Being edgeless makes it a bit thicker than the competition these days, but thanks to being rounded at the back, it doesn't feel fat at all (I have turned a little out of shape the last couple of years, maybe I'm projecting my insecurities:laugh
I am going to even out the pattern on the back piece and spray paint it.
Tactile wise I don't feel it being bad or good, but I am doing it for two reasons:
-I like a sleek finish more then patterns
-the camera actually protrudes just a tiny tiny bit. This will hopefully neutralize that "threat", and avoid it being a resting point for the phone.
Innards
I could toss up the numbers here, but that is one google away, so just do that.
Key things to note here would be non-removable battery, and micro sd slot.
The "direct wave receiver... thingy (hell let's just call it a tiny buttkicker) works very well.
I was a tad worried when I read the instructions.
It says something along the lines of "make sure your entire ear covers the glass, to block out surrounding noise and to achieve the best audio experience"
The reality is, you don't even have to be near the screen. I have to actually turn the volume down quite a bit so it don't act as a speakerphone. Not to say it's so loud it's bothersome, or that people will unintentionally eavesdrop 10 feet away though.
If you are out and about in the city, the background noise would even that out easily.
My point is here that my skepticism was merely unfounded.
On to the:
Interaction
I have been running lollipop on my M8 and Nexus 9 for a while now, and liking it I might add. So naturally I would like it to land on the Crystal X as well.
Root is however more important to me right now (this phone badly deserves it)
So we are left with 4.4.4.
It is pretty close to stock. The notification panel looks a bit different.
Weirdly enough, you can't get to the brightness slider unless you go into settings. The brightness tile in the dropdown only gives you four choices (min, med, max and auto).
Rom is snappy, but certain apps introduces micro lags when scrolling.
There are other small features, like swiping from one side to the other on the status bar to take a screenshot or open image viewer.
Many (me included) hate those times when you are looking at media in portrait, and things are askew. So you tilt it just enough to see aaand blammo! auto rotation kicks in.
Grip sensors avoid this from happening.
It's been a while since I've been dependent on the power button for turning the screen on/off (and never going back). The grip sensors are therefore something I think everyone would greet with open arms (or with a firm grip I should say).
Just pick it up, and you're off to the races.
The speaker on the back is fairly loud. Nothing extreme, but well within my expectations.
Camera is something I have yet to fully explore. Looks a little sony-ish (not bad).
Not the fastest shooter, but seems like it takes good pics. I will pit it against my other relevant devices tomorrow.
Will be interesting to see how it fares against the M8 in low light.
In pitch black where you really rely on your flash, I think the Aquos might struggle more, because quite frankly, the flash on this thing is lackluster. Which means it's not a great flashlight either.
The final act:
Conclusion
When you add all that up in a blender, I will gulp it down and ask for seconds.
There is the question of: Will this device ever receive root?
Looking at the Crystal forums, it doesn't reassure me all that much.
One can just hope. I might also consider anteing up a phone and/or cash as a root bounty at some point.
All in all, no big letdowns. My worries were quickly put to rest.
If I had the chance to go back, I would buy it one more time
I hope there are already other owners (or future ones) out there, who stumbles over this thread and can chime in. Maybe we can group together and create a wave.
I will try to take som better photo's of the phone outside in the daytime a little later tomorrow. Also as mentioned, a camera shootout.
So what have we learned today kids?
Don't put Sharp-ie in pooper!

I absolutely love mine as well. I have owned it for 3 days and have been very impressed. My only complaint is that I only get edge and would love to be able to get at least 3g connection. I think it really is one of the nicest phones I have owned and I have owned a lot. I wish we could add radio bands to make the 3g possible. I find the little differences in the software to be nothing more than a little annoying. I actually shut off the swipe to activate feature as I found it always activating when I slipped it into the sleeve.

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I absolutely love mine as well. I have owned it for 3 days and have been very impressed. My only complaint is that I only get edge and would love to be able to get at least 3g connection. I think it really is one of the nicest phones I have owned and I have owned a lot. I wish we could add radio bands to make the 3g possible. I find the little differences in the software to be nothing more than a little annoying. I actually shut off the swipe to activate feature as I found it always activating when I slipped it into the sleeve.
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EDGE is brutal. I feel for you there.
Hopefully within a short time frame I will be able to test it on LTE-A (4G+), since around these parts they are rolling it out right now to several of the biggest cities here (I live fairly close to the capital).
I was quite busy yesterday, so I have not yet had time to take more photos. Hopefully I will have time a little later today though.

Thanks TS for the review. U got it from benny? . Just got my set yesterday.. Loves it..
.. install apex launcher and everything seen smoothly.

nakedtoes said:
Thanks TS for the review. U got it from benny? . Just got my set yesterday.. Loves it..
.. install apex launcher and everything seen smoothly.
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Yep!
Which color did you get?

benziii said:
Yep!
Which color did you get?
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White... Can't post pic yet lol
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Yep!
Which color did you get?
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I absolutely love mine as well. I have owned it for 3 days and have been very impressed. My only complaint is that I only get edge and would love to be able to get at least 3g connection. I think it really is one of the nicest phones I have owned and I have owned a lot. I wish we could add radio bands to make the 3g possible. I find the little differences in the software to be nothing more than a little annoying. I actually shut off the swipe to activate feature as I found it always activating when I slipped it into the sleeve.
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Hi how do u change the 4 menu buttons below to transparent? Thx

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Hi how do u change the 4 menu buttons below to transparent? Thx
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I don't think you can. Only seen a setting for changing the spacing.
I just force immersive mode to get rid of it.
I am happy to say that Lmt luncher is working great (V2.4)
This edgeless beauty can't be constrained by ugly black buttons

I use Go Launcher and that way it becomes transparent by default. I can also swipe up and it disappears completely. I can do the same for the notification bar as well.
correction, the 4 icons don't dissappear just the dock icons can.

install latest version of Apex ... thats it..

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install latest version of Apex ... thats it..
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Yep, what Im saying is rubbish. I think even one of the default launchers do it.

Find something unusual during charging... I have this orico 4 (2ax2, 1ax2) ports charger that can output 1.1a to 2.0a to my other phones but for this 402sh only max 0.5a. Tried all kind of cables. Then using xiaomi 10400mah power bank can output 1A..

nakedtoes said:
Find something unusual during charging... I have this orico 4 (2ax2, 1ax2) ports charger that can output 1.1a to 2.0a to my other phones but for this 402sh only max 0.5a. Tried all kind of cables. Then using xiaomi 10400mah power bank can output 1A..
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Mine has gone through three different chargers, and they charge much more than 500mah (Logitech 1A, HTC 1.5A, HTC 2A)
Have not even had time to roll back the Z1 and the M8 to stock yet.
Thinking of comparing the three in a couple of scenes in full resolution, 8Mpx, both with their respective cameras and the google camera.
Meanwhile, two quick "glam" shots:

Does anyone know the technical details of the phone?
Like aperture, and if it has ois?

@benziii , does it have the slow-motion (240fps) which is highlighted on the new zeta models ?

Thanks for reviewing this, any chance of a source link?
edit: I found the link; if anyone else want look, here: http://www.softbank.jp/corp/group/sbm/news/press/2014/20141212_01/

Battery life
Guys what is the battery life on the 402sh like? Also this is not hugely important but what is the colour of bezel on the black 402sh? Is it really black? Reason I am asking is Id like to get this in black but when I look at the pictures of the black version, the front still looks whitish to grayish rather than pure black. Can someone please confirm?

Awesome!

I really hoped this phone will get. root, but it seems we have failed to create a wave.
I have seen some websites that demand payments for rooting your device.
I'd like to know if they are reliable at all.

The pink screen

So is anybody got not device yet that doesn't require the red to be turned all the way down in order to look somewhat appropriate?
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mopar said:
So is anybody got not device yet that doesn't require the red to be turned all the way down in order to look somewhat appropriate?
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Red screen*
When I got this phone in my opinion it was clear whit but tgen when I tried reducing the red colour it became even more clearer, I don't know it's probably I didn't pay attention to the colour when I got this phone...
In my opinion the blue light filter messes up the display although I know this isn't the case..

I got a replacement new phone as I cracked the screen on my first one, and my new one, if anything is slightly cooler / bluer than I usually like, no red / pink issues I can see. My last one was ever so slightly reddish even with red slider down.

for me it is fixed after:
- specific sw update
- set adaptive display
- set display tone to cooler option (-1 or -2 from the slide bar in display settings)

Out of the box mine is fine. I swapped my first one that had a pinkish display even when red turned all the way down.

mopar said:
So is anybody got not device yet that doesn't require the red to be turned all the way down in order to look somewhat appropriate?
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if i understand your question right then yes, there are devices without the ted tint issue!

I went into 4 shops and looked at 8 phones and everyone of them had the red /pink issue only 1 could you turn down red to reduce it in adaptive settings when it became blue/green white and all were red In photo and cinema settings

I bought my s8+ ten days ago, after two days I changed it because of pink borders... Before change, I powered on two new s8+, one were all red (not only borders), the other one was nearly perfect... But I had to choose another color (orchid gray) instead of my first black phone... It's a shame that we have to choose the phone from the color of display and not from the color of the phone...
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My screen is pretty noticeably green-tinted, but it somehow gets corrected when sliding the cool / warm slider all the way to the right, making the display more warm. Even though the issue is too much green, making the display warmer seems to fix it somehow. I know that the issue is green, because sliding down the green slider under advanced options fixes it, while sliding down the blue or red one just makes it worse
And pro tip, you can combine the cool / warm slider with the advanced options RGB sliders, if the warm / cool slider isn't enough on its own. Perfect mix for me is the cool / warm slider all the way to the right, and green slider decreased by 1-2. You could fix a bright red display with the combination of the general slider and the RGB sliders

I'm still concerned that Samsung isn't taking this time to educate people of OLED calibration. They could put this entire thing to bed with just providing more than 2 marketing crafted sentences. Not one thing is wrong with the screen sans those with actual manufacturing issues of course. Microsoft takes their pixel sense displays, like apple and individually calibrates them. Its why you don't complain about color on iPhones and even surface PCs.
This has 0 to do with the display, the manufacturing process etc. It's just a step that Samsung and many other don't do to their phones. They take a lot # for screens produced, get them close to accurate, preprogram the variables for the entire lot and off ya go. The update is fine because all it does is give yu extended granular control over the calibrations. Once you set the point on all, you'll be fine.
Keep in mind that even if they were individually SRGB calibrated for perfect color space and white point, someone who find them to look off because as humans our perception of color varies tremendously. I hate overblown colors yet RGB 100% dead on is weak and dead to me.
Just use your settings to make your screen right for you. That's all. Don't yell at CS, don't sit in the store waiting for their next lot of phones. They will be variations of the same display with slightly more detailed calibrations. And you'll have wasted time waiting for something you can just do yourself with some patience and correct lighting.

Funny thing about red screen and pink tint. I have my s8 plus since a week. My device came with lots of red tint, then I got an update that really helped, but still wasn't perfect. After few days my screen lost pink/red tint without adjusting anything. Of course, little pink tint on the edges exist but it's due to screen specifics.

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I'm still concerned that Samsung isn't taking this time to educate people of OLED calibration. They could put this entire thing to bed with just providing more than 2 marketing crafted sentences. Not one thing is wrong with the screen sans those with actual manufacturing issues of course. Microsoft takes their pixel sense displays, like apple and individually calibrates them. Its why you don't complain about color on iPhones and even surface PCs.
This has 0 to do with the display, the manufacturing process etc. It's just a step that Samsung and many other don't do to their phones. They take a lot # for screens produced, get them close to accurate, preprogram the variables for the entire lot and off ya go. The update is fine because all it does is give yu extended granular control over the calibrations. Once you set the point on all, you'll be fine.
Keep in mind that even if they were individually SRGB calibrated for perfect color space and white point, someone who find them to look off because as humans our perception of color varies tremendously. I hate overblown colors yet RGB 100% dead on is weak and dead to me.
Just use your settings to make your screen right for you. That's all. Don't yell at CS, don't sit in the store waiting for their next lot of phones. They will be variations of the same display with slightly more detailed calibrations. And you'll have wasted time waiting for something you can just do yourself with some patience and correct lighting.
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What your saying makes a lot of sense to me, maybe you can point me in the right direction here. I have the S8+ with a pink tinted screen and even pinker edges. Fortunately mine is consistent across the screen. I have 4 other Samsung phones and the Tab S 10.5, which all have great displays (at least to me they're all great). Every one has a slightly different white balance, but they're all nice. They also can be tilted at very strong angles and only have very minor tinting of the colors. Now, my S8+ has been updated and I've been able to get the edges to look great. I'm also able to get the main screen to a really nice white. Here's the two problems I'm running into that you might be able to help me learn how to fix and finish getting my phone to the quality I've grown to love with all of my other Samsung devices. If i adjust my whites in any giving environment, say inside, it looks wonderful, but as soon as I go elsewhere, like outside, or go from incandescent light to florescent, the whites will go to either redish again, or to a green/blueish. I've never had this on any of my other Samsung devices, I mean they do change from warm to cool depending on the environment I'm using them in, but they never look redish, or green/blueish like my S8+ does, they are warm or cool. That's what I'm trying to adjust my S8+ to do. I have all the great new tools that Samsung gave us in the latest update, but for some reason, I can't get it anywhere close to my other devices and have it stay that way when changing the lighting I'm in. The second problem I'm having is that if my phone isn't held almost perfectly straight on, it takes on a pink hue again. None of my other devices do this either. Like I said, all of my Samsung devices have different white balances, but they're still enjoyable to use. The main reason I've stayed strictly with Samsung is their displays, I'm a huge fan and just can't find any displays I enjoy more than Samsung's.....until now. If you can share any advice on anything I might be able to do to fix my S8+, I'd greatly appreciate it, this phone is the best one I've ever had, and I really don't want to have to return it and risk getting a dud. The display is really important to me and if i can get it to be at least as good as the worst of my other Samsung devices, it would be awesome! Thanks in advance for any advice!

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What your saying makes a lot of sense to me, maybe you can point me in the right direction here. I have the S8+ with a pink tinted screen and even pinker edges. Fortunately mine is consistent across the screen. I have 4 other Samsung phones and the Tab S 10.5, which all have great displays (at least to me they're all great). Every one has a slightly different white balance, but they're all nice. They also can be tilted at very strong angles and only have very minor tinting of the colors. Now, my S8+ has been updated and I've been able to get the edges to look great. I'm also able to get the main screen to a really nice white. Here's the two problems I'm running into that you might be able to help me learn how to fix and finish getting my phone to the quality I've grown to love with all of my other Samsung devices. If i adjust my whites in any giving environment, say inside, it looks wonderful, but as soon as I go elsewhere, like outside, or go from incandescent light to florescent, the whites will go to either redish again, or to a green/blueish. I've never had this on any of my other Samsung devices, I mean they do change from warm to cool depending on the environment I'm using them in, but they never look redish, or green/blueish like my S8+ does, they are warm or cool. That's what I'm trying to adjust my S8+ to do. I have all the great new tools that Samsung gave us in the latest update, but for some reason, I can't get it anywhere close to my other devices and have it stay that way when changing the lighting I'm in. The second problem I'm having is that if my phone isn't held almost perfectly straight on, it takes on a pink hue again. None of my other devices do this either. Like I said, all of my Samsung devices have different white balances, but they're still enjoyable to use. The main reason I've stayed strictly with Samsung is their displays, I'm a huge fan and just can't find any displays I enjoy more than Samsung's.....until now. If you can share any advice on anything I might be able to do to fix my S8+, I'd greatly appreciate it, this phone is the best one I've ever had, and I really don't want to have to return it and risk getting a dud. The display is really important to me and if i can get it to be at least as good as the worst of my other Samsung devices, it would be awesome! Thanks in advance for any advice!
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Now that seems like it might actually be a dud. Or try first calibration outside. This seems silly but are you using auto bright and adaptive display?

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Now that seems like it might actually be a dud. Or try first calibration outside. This seems silly but are you using auto bright and adaptive display?
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Ok, I will definitely try the calibration outside. I'm not sure I've tried it outside on a bright day yet. I am using the adaptive display setting and auto brightness, all of the other modes are quite pink and unusable, actually the tint is more of a magenta. I'm fairly certain its the adaptive display mode shifting my white balance in the various environments. Hopefully Samsung will somehow fix the other modes as well. The more I use my phone, the more I realize the biggest problem is the color shift that happens at angles. Almost any movement up, down, left, or right will produce a pink tint. If i go to an even stronger angle (around 75 degrees)the tint goes away. I can also get rid of it by turning both the red and blue down all the way and set the slider fully towards cool. The pink is gone when I do this, but then everything's really blue/green. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll definitely give it a try and let you know how it works.

I've tried calibrating my display outdoors, but the pink persists. I decided to send mine back to Samsung. They said they'll repair it lol. I'll just keep sending it in until it's right. I'm at Best Buy now to have Samsung flash my firmware like the factory asked, although it's not going to fix anything. I've looked at about ten various S8 phones on display and found only 2 with the problem, one of the was borderline ok, the other was just like mine. It's my first time seeing another S8, one that doesn't have the pink tint and it pretty much about took my breath away! The display was more beautiful than I had thought it would be. I just wish Samsung would simply make this right and swap out these faulty phones, heck I'd respect them for it. Having to jump through hoops on a brand new thousand dollar phone is ridiculous. I had debated about sending it in to Samsung, wondering if I was just being too picky. After seeing what the display is supposed to look like, there's no doubt in my mind that my display/phone/software, whatever, is defective. Grrrrrr

I received an update today and it has fixed my pink/red screen.

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I received an update today and it has fixed my pink/red screen.
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Are you on csc SEE ?

vimto25 said:
I received an update today and it has fixed my pink/red screen.
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Carrier?
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Carrier?
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XEU

gregoryostrom said:
I've tried calibrating my display outdoors, but the pink persists. I decided to send mine back to Samsung. They said they'll repair it lol. I'll just keep sending it in until it's right. I'm at Best Buy now to have Samsung flash my firmware like the factory asked, although it's not going to fix anything. I've looked at about ten various S8 phones on display and found only 2 with the problem, one of the was borderline ok, the other was just like mine. It's my first time seeing another S8, one that doesn't have the pink tint and it pretty much about took my breath away! The display was more beautiful than I had thought it would be. I just wish Samsung would simply make this right and swap out these faulty phones, heck I'd respect them for it. Having to jump through hoops on a brand new thousand dollar phone is ridiculous. I had debated about sending it in to Samsung, wondering if I was just being too picky. After seeing what the display is supposed to look like, there's no doubt in my mind that my display/phone/software, whatever, is defective. Grrrrrr
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There is no chance I'd allow Samsung to "repair" my phone. This thing is brand new. You make them get you a BRAND NEW device out of a box you open in wherever you purchased it. Then you move forward in the store and check that display and all other fun things. Once satisfied, buy that unit. Why ever take a repair on something less than 1 month old. Have fun selling my OG unit as a refurb Sammy!