Best way to backup before ROM swap? - Samsung Galaxy S8+ Questions & Answers

Hey guys, looking to go to renovate ice, coming form Alice rom.
My question is what's the best way to backup then restore so it's like I'm just carrying on with my phone?
I do get sick of redownloading apps, configuring everything, I have used titanium but it never worked for me, my back up would always just not work, that was S3 era though.
Wanting to do apps and everything
Don't mind manually sorting it, but it's just tidious! I just want ot enjoy my rom!

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[Q] Backup Apps

I am new to android so please excuse me if this is common knowledge. I was wondering about backup apps. I heard about titanium and nandroid. I was wondering which one is the best or if there are any others out that might be worth a look. What does Google or Sense 2.0 automatically back up?
Thanks!
bigcrav said:
I am new to android so please excuse me if this is common knowledge. I was wondering about backup apps. I heard about titanium and nandroid. I was wondering which one is the best or if there are any others out that might be worth a look. What does Google or Sense 2.0 automatically back up?
Thanks!
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Nandroid typically backs up your entire system as it is. Meaning settings, apps, themes, kernel, etc... whereas Titanium Backup will backup data. It's always good to have a working nandroid backup, in case you find yourself flashing a bad rom/kernel or otherwise getting into a bad state, you can always roll back to your nandroid backup.
Titanium Backup is really handy for backing up your apps and their data (saved games, etc...). I've heard MyBackup is good too, but haven't tried it yet.
I'm not sure what all Google backs up, but from what I've seen (and this is just a quick 'off the top of my head' list) it has settings (wifi information, wallpaper, homescreen setup), contacts in your google account and apps from the marketplace. I'm sure it backs up more, that's just all I can think of at the moment.
As for Sense... I'm not sure. This is my first official Sense device, but I noticed some old SMS messages come up out of nowhere. I'm sure doing some googling will give you the info you want though.
Thanks man. Very helpful.
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When my apps from my captivate magically appeared on my Inspire after signing in to google I was impressed, and quite glad I always turn on wifi when setting up a phone.
i've always preferred appmanager over titanium backup.
recently though, with an updated version of appinstaller (by gregory house), they implimented a backup option which i've stuck with. appinstaller is the most lightweight, reliable app installing/uninstalling/backup program i've come across.

[Q] How do you go about setting your phone up after new ROM?

It seems like every time I set up a new ROM, it takes me forever to get everything set back up and I always miss something, contacts are missing, apps go all wonky... I used to backup all my apps and data, but a lot of the time the new ROM will download many of the apps I had, so when I restore the backup of my Apps, it screws everything all up.
So I guess my questions is... Whats the most sufficient, easiest, most thorough way of restoring all apps and whatnot on a new ROM?
For the basics use the market app to backup your sms to google cant remember what its called, backup your contacts to google (highly recommend) that way you will never loose them.
For apps i would only ever backup downloaded apps with titanium backup pro. System apps can be a pain in the ass to restore.
Other than that everything else is fairly easy...
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Hmm... Ive never gone about backing up SYSTEM apps, but like paid apps, that Ive bought and backed up, seem to get all jacked when I restore or reinstall them. Ive tried a few different methods of restoring my system and never get it to go smoothly. Didnt know if there was an easier way. Thanks for the info!
You might want to upon first boot of the new ROM, bypass initial setup with the tap corners trick, restore apps with Titanium, then resume the setup process. Market will see your apps as already having been installed and not bugger everything up.
Good idea! Hadnt thought of that. Will try with my next rom. Thanks! Anymore tips out there?
First thing I thought of was nandroid backup using clockworkmod on a rooted device. I have restored my phone countless times and everything restores exactly how it was.
sometime i got errors while restoring with CWM..
Titanium is still the recommended.
When I first started out, I actually had to make a list and check it off. Eventually, I found some apps that would cover those items (Titanium, etc), but still even with that I have to manually go in and do a few settings. MIUI ROMS have a backup program (I used MIUI on my HD2) and it seemed to do a decent job.
I usually keep a current back up of all apps from market(not system apps) made from my backup pro. Everything else gets a fresh start.
When I switch android versions ei, from gingerbread to ics, nothing gets restored, everything is a fresh install from market.
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Was it through CWM rom manager or manual recovery mode? I mean did you install a kernel that installed cwm or did you install rom manager? After a couple weeks walking around blind I figured out that flashing the right kernel gets cwm to work without problems.
Restoring system settings is a big no no. It is just asking for trouble as with each update the source code is changed and then you are restoring outdated settings that may or may not be there.
TIBU is still the main app restore program. As for restoring settings that is never advices. Well unless you like troubleshooting random errors lol
Thanks for ALL the replies! Some stuff I hadnt thought of in here, and some stuff to try. If anyone else has any more info, please feel free to share. I have heard that restoring settings is asking for trouble, so luckily Im not too picky about those. I really only change the haptic feedback and stuff off the bat, anyway. It also sucks losing all my WiFi networks and having to have all my friends dig up their network passwords.
Anyway, gonna try out some of this stuff today as Im sick of the ROM I just flashed. Still waiting on MIUI getting that MMS workin
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Restoring system settings is a big no no. It is just asking for trouble as with each update the source code is changed and then you are restoring outdated settings that may or may not be there.
TIBU is still the main app restore program. As for restoring settings that is never advices. Well unless you like troubleshooting random errors lol
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I concur, system restores after updates, different roms etc are a nightmare lol. It might be a pain in the a$$ but i ALWAYS start afresh after each flash and never use the same data image lol

[Q] Titanium Backup

I've never used Titanium Backup before but I keep hearing that it's quite the amazing app. I was wondering what the best (safest) practice would be to use this if I'm going to be trying out new roms frequently.
Should I back up user apps or system or both? Or should I be even more selective? I'm just trying to be cautious because I don't want to back something up from one rom that would conflict with something from a different rom.
ginovva320 said:
I've never used Titanium Backup before but I keep hearing that it's quite the amazing app. I was wondering what the best (safest) practice would be to use this if I'm going to be trying out new roms frequently.
Should I back up user apps or system or both? Or should I be even more selective? I'm just trying to be cautious because I don't want to back something up from one rom that would conflict with something from a different rom.
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TB is an amazing app it makes flashing from rom to rom much easier bcuz you dont have to find and download all your apps over again...I use it after I flash each rom to restore my apps...also I seen where people run into conflict when restoring data so wat I do is just restore apps only each time after a fresh install of a rom....but diff get this app youll love it and it will save you countless time with your apps...
You only want to back up user apps, ad system apps can be modded or tweaked on custom roms. Also I have never had an issue restoring data to user apps.
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You only want to back up user apps, ad system apps can be modded or tweaked on custom roms. Also I have never had an issue restoring data to user apps.
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Some apps are a little weird when you restore data after a wipe. For example, FriendCaster Pro's contact sync breaks and push notifications are a little wonky if I restore data.
But yeah, issues with other apps are few and far between in my experience.
Edit: Oh and I have mine backing up to Google Drive (or Dropbox if you prefer) after every scheduled action as long as I'm on wifi and plugged in. This is just in case I do an sdcard wipe for some reason and forget to back it up manually.
Thanks for all your answers! This should make flashing roms a lot more streamlined.

New to SK4G and rooting

Hey, new to these forums and new to rooting. I got my sidekick about a month ago (always loved em) and was dissapointed by all the bloatware it came with and how it likes to lag and freeze up quite often.
I didn't want to get a new phone as I figured with a root and new ROM all could be saved.
Well I rooted it myself (using SuperOneClick) a few days ago. Installed superuser, titanuim backup, and rom manager.
Used titanium backup right away to make a copy of full factory system, then got rid of what bloatware I felt safe getting rid of and made another backup.
Now I wana look at flashing a new rom but aren't too sure how to go about it?
Read a few things here and there and aren't 100% sure, id say I'm around 75-80% on how to do it.
A lot of places say I need Nandroid for backup, true? Or can I stick with Titanium and go on?
Next, I can't seem to find many good roms w/ detailed info about installing it and about the rom istelf. Id like to know wat it comes with, wat it doesn't, wat ill need to make it work right and some images to see how it changes the appearance and any performance boosts.
Maybe I'm not looking in the right places or searching the right things.
So what I'm asking is if anyone knows a good rom (ik eveyone has opinions so ill look into all) and how to go about installing the rom and pros/cons of each.
Thanks so much for any and all help guys!
Also if someone thts gotten rid of bloatware on the SK4G, what did you get rid of? I dnt wana take off anything ill need or important.
Again thanks!
I've also been having problems with the phone turning off if the screen is off after a while and sometimes when I turn it on it says something like 'new sidekick tune a few things to get started' and takes about a good 5-10 min before its even useable.
The problem started before the root and as another reason I rooted hoping to fix the problem with some tweaking or flashing a new ROM.
Anyone heard of this problem before or have advice about it?
So I've been looking at the Glorious Overdose V2 and V5. Which have less problems/bugs?
I can't seem to find a definitive answer. Features seem to be similiar.
Some say that on V5 they score lower quadrants but seems to be faster but on V2 ppl are saying battery life and performance are both bumped big and V2 sees to has a battery % mod.
Which of the 2 are better? Or is there anything out there better than either?
Most of the devs include installation instructions with their ROMs, which are usually pretty easy to follow. Just make sure you follow the ones for the recovery you have (orange or red). If you haven't flashed the voodoo kernel, you're probably on the orange recovery. Once you flash a new ROM, you'll get rid of most of the T-Mo bloat. Personally, all my stuff is backed up with Google, Evernote, etc., so I don't worry about making Titanium or nandroid backups. I've tried a few different ROMs, and here are my thoughts:
GOV33+LEAN-PERFORMANCE-RELEASE - Started out good, but over time SU stopped working, battery life degraded. Liked LauncherPro. Maybe it just needs to be reinstalled
neXus_JB_v1.2 - Colors hard to read (white on gray). Seems like too many unnecessary apps (live wallpapers, etc).
MeMoRy - Based on GOV3.3 Lean. Uses Lightning Launcher, which I didn't like at first, but it's very simple and presumably lightweight. However, the supplied Jelly Bean keyboard keeps crashing. I installed the ICS keyboard and removed the JB keyboard, and this is now the ROM I use. You can find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837071
Your phone shouldn't turn off just because your screen is off for a while. Are you sure you have a good battery? Your phone will go dead if the batter is dead. If you get the "tune up" screen again, just go through the settings and you shouldn't get it again until you flash a new ROM.
Battery is good, holds a charge all day with moderate use.
When I do get the tune screen, I unlock it, and everything is fine and normal.
Ill start looking for more ROMs and info on them.
And the orange/red thing confuses me. How do I know what I am?
Okay to root is simple to flash a ROM you first need a "recovery" and a "update" file which is located either in sticky on the development page or you can find my thread which has basics you may need
Aldo have the ROM you want on the sk put in downloads on sd
Move recovery to system/bin
Move update to SD card but not in any folders
Now reboot into recovery
Reinstall packages
Now the menu will be yellow
Backup using nan droid if you don't wanna lose a lot of stuff
Now you need to wipe everything on main page an then in advance page if
go to mounts mount all except data I believe (I posted guide a few time but no longer use phone)
install zip from SD card now wait 10 mins an listen to device should say everything is mounted
Now you have a flashed ROM
Now from this point if you want to use a new ROM you
Hold power button go to recovery should now be red
Backup just invade you like the last one but wanna see the new ROM
Check mounts (should be fine but better safe then sorry)
Now wipe everything from main page and advance page
Now install new zip
Going back from one ROM to another
Recovery > restore > "file" done
Sorry I have been on sg3 forums a lot now don't use SK at all anymore either
But before I left I preferred ricandroid nexus roms most up to date I believe
All guides should be find able in other fourms as I post it a lot to help people
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Well things have been going good on the sk4g for a while. Didn't flash a rom as I feel uncapable so I left it rooted and only removed 4 apps tht I seen as bloatware tht I don't use. (Removed right after root in the very beginning).
Well the other day I went to update an app I got recently after rooting (theCHIVE) and it'll download and start installing but I get a red/orange warning triangle in to notification bar saying packing file not signed correctly?
I don't unerstand why its doing this?
Tried it on my normal 4g connection an on wifi as well, same problem. Any help guys?
Your issue is the apk the person didn't sign it correctly or the update took out 2.1 an went to newer firmwares.
If anything back up with titanium just that app you are updating. And then delete the app an install the new one. You then can go back to titanium an restore data
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I tried that and I got the same message, ill try emailing the dev and see what the problem could be?

[Q] How to backup on Google and Samsung account?

Hey guys. I ve been using android since the dark ages of Donut and Gingerbread... But have never backed up so that I can restore from Google servers.
I ve been hearing stories about people getting all the apps back on the new phone, exactly like they were on the old one.
As I am changing phones a lot, especially S6, which I am.trying different colors of regular and edge, just wanted to ask how exactly do I do the backup and restore?
I mean, if I check Automatically backup to Google servers, How do I know when the backup is finished? How do I restore everything on the new phone? Will it backup my settings too? I dont need to backup pics or music, just the damned settings and app data, so that I dont have to setup manually each time.
You know what I mean, I am sure...
Thank you for the advice..

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