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My phone is getting heated while playing games like Asphalt 8 my question is whether heating of note 3 exynos version for heavy games is normal and others are having similar experience.....i play asphalt 8 on recommended graphics setting which is at highest..... my phone heats to the point where i my hands start sweating and i feel like putting it down. Will it harm my device? I went to samsung service centre they just changed my motherboard but no change in heating..... i just want to know experience of other exynos version users......
thanks in advance......
C-Amit said:
My phone is getting heated while playing games like Asphalt 8 my question is whether heating of note 3 exynos version for heavy games is normal and others are having similar experience.....i play asphalt 8 on recommended graphics setting which is at highest..... my phone heats to the point where i my hands start sweating and i feel like putting it down. Will it harm my device? I went to samsung service centre they just changed my motherboard but no change in heating..... i just want to know experience of other exynos version users......
thanks in advance......
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This happens to all devices when playing heavy games. To be honest phones are not really made for long game playing. There is no proper cooling setup in phones and their never will be. So yes its normal.
zelendel said:
This happens to all devices when playing heavy games. To be honest phones are not really made for long game playing. There is no proper cooling setup in phones and their never will be. So yes its normal.
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Thanks...... Yes you are right.... i asked this question because the snapdragon version handles same game very well and generate far less heat than exynos version that i have..... i havent seen much of a complaint on Internet about snapdragon note 3 heating up...... i am just curious about how exynos note 3 users see their note 3 performing while gaming..... and is the heat generated very high and unbearable.......
To be on safe side there should be some temprature standards that how much is too much. You can install any temprature meter for this and check on the internet about limits.
Also n9005 variant generates less heat because its gpu is enhanced.
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Hi everyone!
There are debates about Qualcom 615 (adreno 405) performance. Could share your empressions about speed, lugs and else.
How smooth it works with browsers, heavy apps and games.
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Tbh, I don't see much difference with a Moto X 2013 updated to 5.1. Snappy, browsing is cool as usual, you can switch from one app to another quite fast and well, everyday tasks are "Motorola as usual", y'know?
I feel like the keyboard swipping tray is at a low fps though. and it's quite annoying, anyone else have that problem?
Specs wise... Well, the clockspeed is the same as the 2013, but it has double the cores. My Antutu score with the X Play is 33k and 28k with the 5.1 2013.
I'm not really demanding performance-wise (no 3D games, etc.) but I definitely notice it when my music lags when I open another app (started doing that on my 2013 with the 5.1 update :/), and the X Play doesn't do that, yay!
alenym said:
Tbh, I don't see much difference with a Moto X 2013 updated to 5.1. Snappy, browsing is cool as usual, you can switch from one app to another quite fast and well, everyday tasks are "Motorola as usual", y'know?
I feel like the keyboard swipping tray is at a low fps though. and it's quite annoying, anyone else have that problem?
Specs wise... Well, the clockspeed is the same as the 2013, but it has double the cores. My Antutu score with the X Play is 33k and 28k with the 5.1 2013.
I'm not really demanding performance-wise (no 3D games, etc.) but I definitely notice it when my music lags when I open another app (started doing that on my 2013 with the 5.1 update :/), and the X Play doesn't do that, yay!
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Thanks for your comment. As I understood there is no any critical issues whith performance, it's smooth and fast?
I'm considering upgrading from my Galaxy s5 mainly for the extra battery life, but am worried about a drop in a performance. Anyone upgraded from a 800 series snapdragon mobile?
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I'm considering upgrading from my Galaxy s5 mainly for the extra battery life, but am worried about a drop in a performance. Anyone upgraded from a 800 series snapdragon mobile?
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I'm coming from a few devices. I mostly used the Nexus 6 and I can tell this phone isn't as fast as the N6. There are way more micro lags on the X Play. But, the flip side is the camera is much better and the battery actually lasts all day, so I can deal with some lag here and there.
^Pretty much echoes my opinions compared to my Zenfone 2
I do feel those micro lags, and sometimes it pisses me off , i'm looking forward to get Moto X style , it's not that X play is bad, still kept my LG g4 and Galaxy S6 in the drawer so you get the point . When i get the X Style i might switch back to X play because of the battery is very good.
I'm curios why they didn't just put in a last gen 800 series cpu-gpu. I get they are trying to save money but I really don't think this is the solution. Due to initial benchmarks, the 615 is slower than a SD 800 in almost every category and even the multi-core is slower. I'm much rather have a faster quad-core than a slower octa-core. Does anyone else agree or am I missing something in the octa-core debate?
Battery life and cost are my guesses.
Yeah I think it's exactly what Devhux said. Well battery life could be less of a concern on a big.LITTLE architecture, but Motorola isn't exactly known for putting cutting edge technology in its phone!
I really think it's the cost, to keep it under the 400$ (cad) mark.
I've turned my animation scales down to .5x in the developer settings. It's definitely making a difference. I don't mind the 615. I really want to get the Style but I can't imagine battery life will be very good. Too much screen.
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Yeah I think it's exactly what Devhux said. Well battery life could be less of a concern on a big.LITTLE architecture, but Motorola isn't exactly known for putting cutting edge technology in its phone!
I really think it's the cost, to keep it under the 400$ (cad) mark.
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Of course, it's also entirely possible that Motorola is being very conservative with the CPU Governor as well. Given that the phone barely even gets warm to the touch (unless maybe playing games), there's a good chance custom kernels could unlock a bit more performance for us. We've got the battery capacity to allow for some tweaking, and I can't wait to see what happens.
My main point of comparison is the Asus Zenfone 2, which I've always enjoyed considered "smooth." Of course, battery life and the camera are absolutely destroyed by the Moto X Play. Display is also better (and brighter) on the Moto.
Coming from the S6 Edge this phone feels auch faster. I'm very happy...also the battery lasts like twice as long
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I've turned my animation scales down to .5x in the developer settings. It's definitely making a difference. I don't mind the 615. I really want to get the Style but I can't imagine battery life will be very good. Too much screen.
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Did you turn down all three animation scales options to 0.5x?
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Did you turn down all three animation scales options to 0.5x?
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Yes I did. There's still a decent amount of lag but it's definitely better.
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Yes I did. There's still a decent amount of lag but it's definitely better.
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Guys, I did the same and my Xplay is a little beter now. But, sometimes I feel that the touch screen is not sensitive. I have a z3 too, and the touch is very sensitive, every little touch in screen, z3 reconize it, but the Xplay, I have to touch with more "force".
Do you also feel that ?!
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Guys, I did the same and my Xplay is a little beter now. But, sometimes I feel that the touch screen is not sensitive. I have a z3 too, and the touch is very sensitive, every little touch in screen, z3 reconize it, but the Xplay, I have to touch with more "force".
Do you also feel that ?!
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I haven't had an issue with touchscreen sensitivity on my Moto X Play. I'm coming from a Nexus 6 and Galaxy S6.
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I haven't had an issue with touchscreen sensitivity on my Moto X Play. I'm coming from a Nexus 6 and Galaxy S6.
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Very strange.
The touch is exactly the same, no differences ?
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I find the touch sensitivity on the Moto X Play is lower than the Galaxy S6, but not by a huge amount. It's not that the S6 felt more sensitive per se, it's that it felt more...consistent.
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I find the touch sensitivity on the Moto X Play is lower than the Galaxy S6, but not by a huge amount. It's not that the S6 felt more sensitive per se, it's that it felt more...consistent.
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Coming from a g3, but this.
Hello,
I am wondering if anyone else is having some major game performance issues. I specifically play Order and Chaos 2 on the phone and the game has some ridiculous lag. Want to know if this is caused by this phone or if its another problem. I have tried Samsung Game Tuner, which does nothing btw and have looked around and have no resolution. Any help is appreciated
sucks compare with note 5, im using snapdragon 820 version
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sucks compare with note 5, im using snapdragon 820 version
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I know it does, its ridiculous how bad the lag is on this phone. I don't know if its the phone, the game, or what! Its starting to drive me nuts...
I'm using Exynos version and I've never had any bug in game. Actually I never had any bug at all, it's really impressive
I use to play games like Real Racing 3, Walking War Robots, Warhammer 40000 : Freeblade, and not only there isn't any bug, but the phone never get warm.
Abysmal performance drops in summoners war after a few minutes. The phone stays cool though.
Exynos Version. Even my LG G4 was faster after 15 min of playing.
Samsung should get rid of those game tools because noone need them and it only causes problems...
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Maybe its the snapdragon version?
I'm thinking it's the 2k resolution. Download Samsung's game tuner from the play store, make a manual mode and limit games to 50% resolution (1080p) and keep fps to 60.
Worst performance i ever seen right after G4, that due to stupid things they did in 6.0.1 it affect all devices, i had Note 5 and it had same issue with 6.0.1 but with 5.1.1 games worked perfect.
Now not all games effected, but Angry birds 2 on higher level 100+ and tekken 6 works POOR on S7, while it worked PERFECT on Note 5 with 5.1.1, but on 6.0.1 on both devices gaming performance left in the sink.
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Abysmal performance drops in summoners war after a few minutes. The phone stays cool though.
Exynos Version. Even my LG G4 was faster after 15 min of playing.
Samsung should get rid of those game tools because noone need them and it only causes problems...
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Wow really? I have played +3h in the same session and never had a problems with anything, also, battery just droped like 30%, I'm so f*cking impressed with performance, but SW is not a high-demand game anyways
Gaming performance sucks on Exynos too. My Mate 8 is way smoother when gaming.
ye S7 has the worst gaming performance in years, even worse then G4, if u rooted u can at least put performance governor and that should help, at cost of battery.
They did something in 6.0.1 that cause it, since mine Note 5 was light years faster than S7 in gaming on 5.1.1, but with 6.0.1 it lags so hard... i hope sammy will fix it but i know they won't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9G54Lr_VIM
the video shows some hipcups that doesnt exsist in reality !
awful here is mine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhhS9eA6rCk
As someone that games a lot, that annoys me beyond relief, it was the reason i sold my G4 and got Note 5 year ago, now it seems i need to do it again, once there is a real competitor to s7e.
I have the exynos version and while I'm playing nfs no limits it's like playing a game in a slow motion. The fps is low in a certain point, especially while it's raining. It might get higher fps inside a tunnel or an area that doesn't require too much high quality graphics
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Guys, that's not normal at all. I own the exynos version and my gaming performance are awesome, 60FPS everywhere.
Maybe these games are not optimized, or maybe your phone has problems, you should do something (factory reset or warranty)
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Guys, that's not normal at all. I own the exynos version and my gaming performance are awesome, 60FPS everywhere.
Maybe these games are not optimized, or maybe your phone has problems, you should do something (factory reset or warranty)
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There is a problem and everyone effected, bear in mind not all games are effected but the problem is there.
I did a big more digging and found out that DVFS causes a lot of it, however while disabling it can cure this almost 100%, the phone will work very slow, same behavior i saw on mine Note 5 when disabling dvfs.
Samsung need to fix it really, G5 HTC10 Note 5 all previous phones play those games MILES above S7.
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I have the exynos version and while I'm playing nfs no limits it's like playing a game in a slow motion. The fps is low in a certain point, especially while it's raining. It might get higher fps inside a tunnel or an area that doesn't require too much high quality graphics
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I have the same behavior here with NFS No Limits. Using the Exyno version of the S7 Edge. Is just impossible to play the game.
S7 Edge is a lot worst then my previous LG G4 to play NFS.
Guys if we stay on XDA sammy won't notice it, we need to spam the twitter with videos that prove it and be vocal, otherwise it will effect Note 6 and others phone, which is shame since GS7E is the best phone atm.
here is a video with DVFS disabled, MUCH BETTER https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t-sMWSpUBU&feature=youtu.be
But disabling DVFS cause the phone to lag pretty bad in simple tasks, aka Samsung need to tweak DVFS for gaming.
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here is a video with DVFS disabled, MUCH BETTER https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t-sMWSpUBU&feature=youtu.be
But disabling DVFS cause the phone to lag pretty bad in simple tasks, aka Samsung need to tweak DVFS for gaming.
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Have you tried disabling the game service? A lot of people have reported it causes lag and overly vivid colours.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/help/bad-game-performance-t3337691/page2
Hi everyone
I wanna buy a new phone and the specs of Mi4c have catch me compared to it's price, but then there is many review that says it have a heating issue, so now i just wanna ask you as owners of this phone, do you advise me to buy it or to look for another model, i should mention that im not a gamer just from time to time on simple games, i use most this phone for social medias and video calls at skype.
thank you in advance for any help
I did take the plunge and so far i love it My findings:
Beware that mi4c is China only phone originally so don't expect Global MIUI ROM officially. you can try MIUI eu ROM or sMIUI as alternative but in general this phone will stuck with Android 5.1.1 officially, only the MIUI version is upped. the base OS is still the same Lollipop. the best way to enjoy Nougat is with CM but its Marshmallow CM experience is pretty much stable all around at this time of development.
No overheating so far, but then again i flashed into CM from the start so no MIUI for me.
The Rectangular design is Sony like so i love it (subjective ofc)
Great camera and screen quality.
Battery life is on par with any 3000mah flagship so no worries. (but then again i'm using CM here)
BUT..
If you value super battery life, but not great but above average camera and screen, you can grab the Redmi Note 3 (Snapdragon version) with roughly the same price. Plus the Global ROM availabilty is guaranteed for Xiaomi RN3. I personally take mi4c just because i like the design language plus the camera quality proven by GSMArena and others. So there you have it.
The fact it overheats compared to other phones is true, but only partly. Yes, it overheats, but it only does so on miui. I find, using any other custom rom based on aosp or cm, that the issue is completely gone. And when I overheats it really isn't that much of an issue in my experience.
If you ask me, you can't find a better 5"-5.2" phone under 200. If you value community support too it's basically an obligated choice as well.
The overheating isn´t gone with another Rom.
I tried every Rom and still have this problems (not as much as with miui, but still overheating), but with other Roms you could manage the throttling better. So you don´t have lags and freezes while gaming what is important, but for me it heats on 50-65+ on every Rom while play 3d games and rare throttling.
The problem is the 808 - 810 series. Every phone with this cpus overheats.
There is no overheating if you put the GPU and the BIG cores in powersave. You should get like 4-5 hours screen-on time and no performace issues. Also the battery should last 48h with normal use.
What you mean with "put the GPU and the BIG cores in powersave" ?
At least you have a 30k antutu device and i don´t believe that you can play 3d games well like that. Thats for sure not what the OP want.
I won´t say that the Mi4c is a bad device, price / performance is pretty good, but its not right there aren´t overheating problems. Everyone should now about that issue before he buy it and if i know before that i can just use 60-70 % of the performance i would looking for another device maybe (i tought there is more space above the 68k written in the test results like in every phone with another rom ...).
The best result i get was with RR 5.7.1 constant 55k antutu (heating about ~55°c). With some roms my phone throttle down to 30-40k and i had enormly problems to play NFS, fps 15 after 2-3 mins. With efficient mode i stuck at 45k or less.
For sure not every phone is same, what mean if you are lucky you couldn´t have overheating problems.
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What you mean with "put the GPU and the BIG cores in powersave" ?
At least you have a 30k antutu device and i don´t believe that you can play 3d games well like that. Thats for sure not what the OP want.
I won´t say that the Mi4c is a bad device, price / performance is pretty good, but its not right there aren´t overheating problems. Everyone should now about that issue before he buy it and if i know before that i can just use 60-70 % of the performance i would looking for another device maybe (i tought there is more space above the 68k written in the test results like in every phone with another rom ...).
The best result i get was with RR 5.7.1 constant 55k antutu (heating about ~55°c). With some roms my phone throttle down to 30-40k and i had enormly problems to play NFS, fps 15 after 2-3 mins. With efficient mode i stuck at 45k or less.
For sure not every phone is same, what mean if you are lucky you couldn´t have overheating problems.
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thank you for your answer but i just wanna know if it heat on normal usage, like social media, taking photos and skype video calls, cause the main reason i wanna buy this phone is the screen and the camera, i casualy play games and when i do, it just simple games like domino or guessing games.
Well, in your case no. You won´t have overheating problems just for social media etc. and very simple games.
But could be that you find a new game/app wich need performance then you could have. Future ! ;D.
BTW Vector 2 looks like a simple game, Pokemon Go looks like a simple game, a map with some stops but you would have overheating probs (resp. - i have - ~55°c). Just saying ;D.
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Well, in your case no. You won´t have overheating problems just for social media etc. and very simple games.
But could be that you find a new game/app wich need performance then you could have. Future ! ;D.
BTW Vector 2 looks like a simple game, Pokemon Go looks like a simple game, a map with some stops but you would have overheating probs (resp. - i have - ~55°c). Just saying ;D.
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thank you again, i will go for it, i was hesitating between this phone and redmi 3s
The main reason you shouldn't buy a redmi 3s is the well known bug that keeps the phone stuck on 2G in some occasions (you can read more on miui.com or here in xda).
@Danny94, that 55k antutu sounds low. And so does that cpu temperature you were talking about. I wouldn't rule out the possibility it's a defective unit, frankly. With all the roms I've used I've never gotten less than 65k and 72k with my current daily driver - TS CM13.
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What you mean with "put the GPU and the BIG cores in powersave" ?
At least you have a 30k antutu device and i don´t believe that you can play 3d games well like that. Thats for sure not what the OP want.
I won´t say that the Mi4c is a bad device, price / performance is pretty good, but its not right there aren´t overheating problems. Everyone should now about that issue before he buy it and if i know before that i can just use 60-70 % of the performance i would looking for another device maybe (i tought there is more space above the 68k written in the test results like in every phone with another rom ...).
The best result i get was with RR 5.7.1 constant 55k antutu (heating about ~55°c). With some roms my phone throttle down to 30-40k and i had enormly problems to play NFS, fps 15 after 2-3 mins. With efficient mode i stuck at 45k or less.
For sure not every phone is same, what mean if you are lucky you couldn´t have overheating problems.
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I had Z5 Premium before mi4c (don't ask why the downgrade) and it does overheat, causing a game like Horizon Chase to stutter after a while. None that i found with mi4c. so even if this phone CPU overheats in games, the impact isn't as pronounced compared to 810 powered phone. Yeah gaming is quite major part in smartphone but it's taken as an in-between activity so in pretty much all other activities, even 810 is still very good as i have used in Z5P and no complain generally.
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The main reason you shouldn't buy a redmi 3s is the well known bug that keeps the phone stuck on 2G in some occasions (you can read more on miui.com or here in xda).
@Danny94, that 55k antutu sounds low. And so does that cpu temperature you were talking about. I wouldn't rule out the possibility it's a defective unit, frankly. With all the roms I've used I've never gotten less than 65k and 72k with my current daily driver - TS CM13.
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last time i test i get around 69k, so pretty good actually.
adrinho987 said:
Hi everyone
I wanna buy a new phone and the specs of Mi4c have catch me compared to it's price, but then there is many review that says it have a heating issue, so now i just wanna ask you as owners of this phone, do you advise me to buy it or to look for another model, i should mention that im not a gamer just from time to time on simple games, i use most this phone for social medias and video calls at skype.
thank you in advance for any help
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You should look at Zuk Z2 (not pro) much better than mi4c
Guys i believe you to reach 69k ... on Antutu, but thats not a true value... I reach 69 k too on first time, you should try to test 5 times or more behind each other until your value doesn´t drop anymore. That was for me 55k on RR 5.7.1, with the most other Roms i was on 35k after 3-5 test.
The first test doesn´t have any sense on this cpu, because of the overheating -> throttle. Or does you play a game for only 3 minutes too ?
Yeah the Zuk Z2 looks great. I like 5" smartphones and at the moment the Zuk Z2 is the best in my opinion, the Rom should be bad, but there are for sure custom roms.
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You should look at Zuk Z2 (not pro) much better than mi4c
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thank you but zuk z2 is around 210$ while mi4c will cost me only 120$
I would go for Mi4S, it worth the upgrade IMO...
As i know the Mi4c has the same hardware like the Mi4s, just small things like fingerprint sensor, sd -slot, little bit more battery, but costs a lot more.
It really depends on the relative price of Mi 4c compared to other devices.
The only thing that makes Mi 4c stand out is its camera quality. It takes amazing photos (though the focus speed is average) and high quality 4k videos (though the lack of stabilization means you need very steady hands).
Performance of Mi 4c is good but it heats too much. Stand-by power consumption is too high (even when compared with nearly identical phones like Mi 4s).
I'm not sure what prices you can get, but in China you can get Mi 5 (3GB RAM, 32GB Storage) for USD250 through the official Mi shop. The Red Mi Note 3 and Note 4 offer metal body, fingerprint sensor, larger battery and similar performance. You can think about them as well. Note that the Red Mi series have noticeably worse camera than Mi 4c.
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thank you but zuk z2 is around 210$ while mi4c will cost me only 120$
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$120 for 16gb/2gb model?
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$120 for 16gb/2gb model?
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yeah at aliexpress; actually you can even get it at 109 usd if you are in a country that all sellers in aliexpress ship to
I would try to get at least the 32gb/3gb model
Is there any way to force 120hz in apps and games...
Like on OnePlus there is the ADB command.
Because on games that support 120hz I get max 60 even if I choose it in the menu of the game.
Thank you
I'm also interested in this as well
Hey guys,
Really liking the phone, but there one major deal breaker, it does not go to 120hz on most games I have tried, such as grimvalor, subway surfers, oddmar, etc.
For some reason real racing 3 and pubg works, but others donot.
what also baffles me is youtube does not work at 120hz? but when you install youtube vanced, it works at 120hz. I'm aware coloros whitelists apps, and I wonder if there is a way to bypass that.
Any ideas how to force it via adb commands? have tried coloros_screen_refresh_rate (similar method for oneplus phones) and it deselects the option in the settings like oneplus, but the games still run at 60hz.
I wish there was an app like autohz that works with this phone. I tired contacting the developer and said he only supports phones he has (which is the galaxy s20 and oneplus phones).
I can imgaine there is nothing like autohz yet because of the community is not as vast, but this phone is really good and fully capable.
I don't know why they don't let us have 120hz everything or even a full 90hz option, if the phone dies we can charge it in 30 mins
Hello everyone, I just mailed the support (fr) and I got this reply :
We would like to inform you that an update is planned for a better gaming experience at 120hz.
We invite you to wait and activate the automatic update in order to benefit from the next corrections.
I hope this is not a joke because i feel fooled playing a 60fps...
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Hello everyone, I just mailed the support (fr) and I got this reply :
We would like to inform you that an update is planned for a better gaming experience at 120hz.
We invite you to wait and activate the automatic update in order to benefit from the next corrections.
I hope this is not a joke because i feel fooled playing a 60fps...
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Imagine.... I sold my ROG phone 2 and got the oppo just to find games dont work above 60fps. If they dont fix this my next phone wont be an OPPO! Its a shame because i think its one of the best phone on the market.
No one has other ideas to increase the amount of fps in games?
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No one has other ideas to increase the amount of fps in games?
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I heard they will update and fix this. Probably by then I will get another phone. £1100 phone but cant use the specs at maximum . I can get over the low call volume, blown highlight in pictures and worst lense flare I ever seen. But locking games on 12gb ram and SD865...too much.
This is what I used for getting 120hz forced
https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/rn2xgj
But it's not permanent after a reboot it's gone then you need to set it up again