Anyone notice that some graphic intensive games stutter? I'm not talking about framerate. This also happens on my Z2 tablet.
Running the games side by side my LG G2, The G2 is noticeably smoother. Running benchmarks side by side, The G2 is smoother again, but The Z3 scores higher.
Current games I'm playing are:
Riptide GP 2
Dead trigger 2
Slingshot Braves
Update 07/09/2016: I'm now using a Z5 and experiencing the same. My old LG G2 is smoother.
shilent said:
Anyone notice that some graphic intensive games stutter? I'm not talking about framerate. This also happens on my Z2 tablet.
Running the games side by side my LG G2, The G2 is noticeably smoother. Running benchmarks side by side, The G2 is smoother again, but The Z3 scores higher.
Current games I'm playing are:
Riptide GP 2
Dead trigger 2
Slingshot Braves
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I havnt had any prolems so far. Ive play asphault 8, modern combat and GTA pretty flawlessly. Are you using heavy launchers? I also use a taskmanager to close everything prior to gaming. (ive done this with all my devices not just my z3)
I'm using the default launcher.
I'll Try Asphalt 8 later today.
Thanks.
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Must say I have not noticed stuttering like you mention, I will also try Asphalt 8 and see how it fairs.
My bench marks 3d is smooth, and my device on Antutu tops the 3d default scores.
I have though made a couple of tweaks.
Here they are and see if it helps;
Go to settings, click about phone 10 times (or until you become a developer)
Go into developer options
Go down to Hardware-Accelerated rendering
Tick force GPU rendering
And Disable HW overlays.
See how you go after that.
danw_oz said:
Must say I have not noticed stuttering like you mention, I will also try Asphalt 8 and see how it fairs.
My bench marks 3d is smooth, and my device on Antutu tops the 3d default scores.
I have though made a couple of tweaks.
Here they are and see if it helps;
Go to settings, click about phone 10 times (or until you become a developer)
Go into developer options
Go down to Hardware-Accelerated rendering
Tick force GPU rendering
And Disable HW overlays.
See how you go after that.
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Force GPU rendering and Disabling HW overlays did not make a difference.
I just tried Asphalt 8 on my Z3, Z2 tablet, and my fiance's Z3 compact, and it stutters like crazy. Much more than Riptide GP 2. Don't get me wrong, the games are playable, but much more enjoyable on my older LG G2.
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It could be heat or game related, My LG G2 never stuttered either and the Z3 for me has stuttered only in PlayStore of all places but a restart fixed that.
Hey mate i have been scouring the net for an answer to exactly the same problem you are having. Virtually every game has some intermittent stuttering which is pretty consistently occuring every few seconds so as you say games are very playable but dont feel smooth.
I have tried asphalt 8, zen pinball, Pinball Arcade , real racing 3 and none feel completely smooth. I thought maybe that real racing 3 may have been too graphically intense for the z3 but after reading so many reports from other z3 users on how good the game played on their phones it made me start looking for a solution. Pinball arcade and zen really sealed the deal for me about maybe something wasnt quite right though as these 2 games should pose absolutely no problem for any modern device (my vita vetsion side by side looks much smoother) but the ball will stutter every so often too.
If you find a solution i would really like to know what you did as i am new to android and everything ive read to try hasnt helped.
thedaz3000 said:
Hey mate i have been scouring the net for an answer to exactly the same problem you are having. Virtually every game has some intermittent stuttering which is pretty consistently occuring every few seconds so as you say games are very playable but dont feel smooth.
I have tried asphalt 8, zen pinball, Pinball Arcade , real racing 3 and none feel completely smooth. I thought maybe that real racing 3 may have been too graphically intense for the z3 but after reading so many reports from other z3 users on how good the game played on their phones it made me start looking for a solution. Pinball arcade and zen really sealed the deal for me about maybe something wasnt quite right though as these 2 games should pose absolutely no problem for any modern device (my vita vetsion side by side looks much smoother) but the ball will stutter every so often too.
If you find a solution i would really like to know what you did as i am new to android and everything ive read to try hasnt helped.
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Possibly it's related to the resolution. The Z3 has 1080 x 1920, whereas the ps vita is only 960 × 544; around a quarter of the size. I do think it's a weakness of modern phones; I'd be a lot happier with a lower resolution. It's not as if the S3 had any problems with its 720 x 1280. I think it's a bit like the megapixel race on DSLRs; bigger is better, and damn the other problems (noise, image size on cameras; speed, battery, asset storage space on phones).
Doesn't seem to be related to resolution, as the same happens on my fiancé's Z3 compact. Also, the same games runs smooth on my LG G2.
I'm pretty sure it has to do With Sony's ROM since it's happening on my Z3, Z2 tablet, and Z3 compact. The people that report no stuttering is probably not as sensitive to it as some of us are.
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shilent said:
Doesn't seem to be related to resolution, as the same happens on my fiancé's Z3 compact. Also, the same games runs smooth on my LG G2.
I'm pretty sure it has to do With Sony's ROM since it's happening on my Z3, Z2 tablet, and Z3 compact. The people that report no stuttering is probably not as sensitive to it as some of us are.
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I think the Sony ROM is running a more conservative setting or something because everything seems to be a little slow on the Z3. Battery saving method on Sony's part I assume.
Probably the kernel tuning. I've noticed it too.
Maybe Sony is more aggressive than LG with the thermal protection in the kernel. Even on the LG G2 if you disabled thermal protection it got rid of any stutters that were there, though not safe in the long run.
Guys do you think they will solve it by android L relase?
It will probably improve a bit because the new OS will be more efficient, and also better battery life.
shilent said:
Doesn't seem to be related to resolution, as the same happens on my fiancé's Z3 compact. Also, the same games runs smooth on my LG G2.
I'm pretty sure it has to do With Sony's ROM since it's happening on my Z3, Z2 tablet, and Z3 compact. The people that report no stuttering is probably not as sensitive to it as some of us are.
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Feel free to chuck up a video of the problem; I'm writing a game, so perhaps I could reproduce it if I had some idea what's causing it.
I remember having this problem with my Droid DNA when the Moto X rocking the same processor was smooth, regardless of framerate. Definitely firmware/video driver/kernel related. It can be most easily witnessed in games with a lot of scrolling or fluid motion, looking like a hitch or frame drop.
poldie said:
Feel free to chuck up a video of the problem; I'm writing a game, so perhaps I could reproduce it if I had some idea what's causing it.
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Thanks. I'll get a video of the Z3 and G2 side by side running Riptide GP2 tonight.
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Ahh yes, i play asphalt 8 quite a bit, and while it doesn't lag, it definitely stutters a ton. I'm coming from an ascend mate 2 and even that runs it a bit better! i'm sure it all comes down to the heat/kernel settings. what's odd is when im playing need for speed, it's extremely smooth, but the phone definitely gets way hotter than it does when i play asphalt 8.
Sorry for the delay. My Canon camera crapped out on me. I ended up having to use my GoPro Hero3. Sorry for the image quality, GoPro sucks bad on everything except outdoor activities.
Top is LG G2 and bottom is Z3.
Edit: Youtube is horrible. I suggest downloading via Dropbox link.
http://youtu.be/8nyAUWBgpoM
Original file via Dropbox: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/73364340/Riptide.mp4
In the LG G2 you could disable the Thermal throttling and manually set clock speed for thermal states in Trickster Kernel settings app. I suppose you could do the same here.
My phone is getting heated while playing games like Asphalt 8 my question is whether heating of note 3 exynos version for heavy games is normal and others are having similar experience.....i play asphalt 8 on recommended graphics setting which is at highest..... my phone heats to the point where i my hands start sweating and i feel like putting it down. Will it harm my device? I went to samsung service centre they just changed my motherboard but no change in heating..... i just want to know experience of other exynos version users......
thanks in advance......
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My phone is getting heated while playing games like Asphalt 8 my question is whether heating of note 3 exynos version for heavy games is normal and others are having similar experience.....i play asphalt 8 on recommended graphics setting which is at highest..... my phone heats to the point where i my hands start sweating and i feel like putting it down. Will it harm my device? I went to samsung service centre they just changed my motherboard but no change in heating..... i just want to know experience of other exynos version users......
thanks in advance......
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This happens to all devices when playing heavy games. To be honest phones are not really made for long game playing. There is no proper cooling setup in phones and their never will be. So yes its normal.
zelendel said:
This happens to all devices when playing heavy games. To be honest phones are not really made for long game playing. There is no proper cooling setup in phones and their never will be. So yes its normal.
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Thanks...... Yes you are right.... i asked this question because the snapdragon version handles same game very well and generate far less heat than exynos version that i have..... i havent seen much of a complaint on Internet about snapdragon note 3 heating up...... i am just curious about how exynos note 3 users see their note 3 performing while gaming..... and is the heat generated very high and unbearable.......
To be on safe side there should be some temprature standards that how much is too much. You can install any temprature meter for this and check on the internet about limits.
Also n9005 variant generates less heat because its gpu is enhanced.
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What is everyone's performance on GTA San Andreas and Minecraft? For me, Minecraft runs better on the Nexus 6 and GTA San Andreas, while running a lot better than the Nexus 6, crashes after about a minute of gameplay.
I have read that some people experience the same issues, although very few. Even the Messenger basketball game stutters. It ran like this even as soon as it was taken out of the box a couple of days ago, and still nothing has changed. Has anyone else experienced these issues??
gilberts555 said:
What is everyone's performance on GTA San Andreas and Minecraft? For me, Minecraft runs better on the Nexus 6 and GTA San Andreas, while running a lot better than the Nexus 6, crashes after about a minute of gameplay.
I have read that some people experience the same issues, although very few. Even the Messenger basketball game stutters. It ran like this even as soon as it was taken out of the box a couple of days ago, and still nothing has changed. Has anyone else experienced these issues??
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Exactly the same thing on GTASA. Minecraft frame rate is unacceptable. Real Racing 3 stutters a bit, too. I've seen it playing better on an s6 in a Sprint store. Extremely disappointed with overall gaming performance. What the f***, Quallcom?
Exynos S7 user here. Minecraft frame sucks but GTASA runs fine for me. Still a lot laggy with graphics options set to max.
thatfukinguy1 said:
Exactly the same thing on GTASA. Minecraft frame rate is unacceptable. Real Racing 3 stutters a bit, too. I've seen it playing better on an s6 in a Sprint store. Extremely disappointed with overall gaming performance. What the f***, Quallcom?
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I feel like we got a bad batch because very few people have this issue
My sprint s7 just received an update that improves gaming. The game doesn't crash at max anymore, bit still lags due to Rock star's horrible optimization.
Weirdly, the HTC One M9 from 2015 runs the game smooth at max. After calculations, I've found that resolution is the problem. The S7 has a resolution on 2560*1440, while the m9 remains at 1920*1080. When pulling everything, including res to max, it lags. To fix this, keep all else at max except for resolution (keep it at 75%, 3/4 off 2560*1440, also known as 1920*1080, what the m9 has. The game is smoother than the m9 now due to the 820's improved gaming, but as known to all chipsets playing GTA: SA, slight frame drops still occur due to a lack of optimization from Rockstar's side. But it does help tremendously.
magicstick5 said:
My sprint s7 just received an update that improves gaming. The game doesn't crash at max anymore, bit still lags due to Rock star's horrible optimization.
Weirdly, the HTC One M9 from 2015 runs the game smooth at max. After calculations, I've found that resolution is the problem. The S7 has a resolution on 2560*1440, while the m9 remains at 1920*1080. When pulling everything, including res to max, it lags. To fix this, keep all else at max except for resolution (keep it at 75%, 3/4 off 2560*1440, also known as 1920*1080, what the m9 has. The game is smoother than the m9 now due to the 820's improved gaming, but as known to all chipsets playing GTA: SA, slight frame drops still occur due to a lack of optimization from Rockstar's side. But it does help tremendously.
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What's the build number?
kykint said:
What's the build number?
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Here it is.
Hi all,
I am wonder if anything I could do to increase the gaming performance of S8+ Exynos 8895.
As I play the game "Marvel Future Fight", I am encountered serious lag while using Dr. Strange in Alliance battle extreme. It is fine when I am using iphone 6 to play.
I have already used the game launcher and set to high performance, and screen resolution has been lowered to FHD+. I think this shouldnt be the case with such a new phone.
Would S835 perform better for gaming?
not been funny but most be some think up with your phone or game made before s8 come out
cyruslam said:
Hi all,
I am wonder if anything I could do to increase the gaming performance of S8+ Exynos 8895.
As I play the game "Marvel Future Fight", I am encountered serious lag while using Dr. Strange in Alliance battle extreme. It is fine when I am using iphone 6 to play.
I have already used the game launcher and set to high performance, and screen resolution has been lowered to FHD+. I think this shouldnt be the case with such a new phone.
Would S835 perform better for gaming?
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It's aBout the developer not with your phone for example I cant play so good with counter terrorist strike war there is little bit lag with low quality and low storage but with modern combat 5 with 900mb storage and high quality it works great don't worry about that
Yeah, likely just a poor unoptimized port to android. If you're having issues with it on your s8 its probably even worse on other android phones. Dont sweat it bro.
I'd like to compare it to the Galaxy S21. Would that seem reasonable? I have no issues on my device as far as gaming goes but my phone is rooted. And I debloat some of the apps. Does that alone make a difference? For games like COD Mobile I experience zero lag even at max settings. I play mainly small games like pocket city and media runs fine on Pixel 7 Pro in my experience.
UltimateGamer83 said:
I'd like to compare it to the Galaxy S21. Would that seem reasonable? I have no issues on my device as far as gaming goes but my phone is rooted. And I debloat some of the apps. Does that alone make a difference? For games like COD Mobile I experience zero lag even at max settings. I play mainly small games like pocket city and media runs fine on Pixel 7 Pro in my experience.
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I just upgraded from s21+ exynos version and it was all worth it. I only played nba 2k20 and Mobile legends, havent encountered issues so far
Gaming performance is somewhere between the SD888. I have notice that the performance at least with COD mobile has changed and seems like is dropping more frames then it used to. This I think is more related to the game then the phone since my other device with a SD888+ has been experiencing the same. Also in regards to COD the max frame rate you will achieve with ultra setting is a low resolution and only 90 fps. My SD888+ can play at medium graphics with 120 fps. this is probably because of the GPU ( I'm guessing here).
The SoC is plenty capable but games have to be optimized for Vulkan to have good performance on Mali GPUs. Every game should work fine out of the box but may lose to Adreno devices when settings are cranked.
The only thing bothers me in gaming part of p7pro is that I can't hear any game sound in Bluetooth headphones while talking over discord or normal phone call.