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Is there any way to view the full path for cut off in greenify? Trying to figure out what keeps waking Google play services when all I've done is unlock my phone and open greenify.
There's also at times conflict between disable services and greenify. Play services show in greenify as running but when I go to disable services it often shows none are running.
I want to kill the path that keeps waking it for greenify but I want to research it first.
Literally all I use is the store at this point. YouTube too but through browser not the actual YouTube app. Chrome here and there but not often, been mostly using armor fly.
Does there exist a list which shows which services are needed for what functions? I can find other people's troubleshooting but no confirmed lists.
Also been wondering the same for everything in general, there are probably more apps I don't need but can never be sure.
I'm on s5 neo rooted 5.1.1 Samsung software
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Is it possible to stop triggering Google play protect even though SCANNING is OFF?
*I CANNOT keep an app that google play protect doesn't aprove of installed!!! Google play protect AUTOMATICALLY deletes my app without my permission!!!!
THERE IS NO LONGER "DEVICE SECURITY" IN THE SYSTEM APP LIST, so where is the security database kept for Google play protect?
I have had my favorite little unapproved app for 2 years now & am familiar with how to manipulate my phone. Everything is disabled, google notifications, app overdraw, allow less secure apps, Google play protect off, don't verify apps, don't update anything, and many services are disabled using an app called "package disabler pro".
WHAT ELSE CAN I DO TO STOP GOOGLE PLAY PROTECT FROM AUTOMATICALLY DELETING MY APP on a samsung galaxy 7?** I NEED THIS app TO WORK ON & run on an S7 unrooted nougat phone without Google play protect "protecting" me.
*Using google play protect settings (on/off) no longer works!* All apps are scanned regardless of settings.* When Google protect finds the app I wish to keep, IT insists on deleting it without my consent!
* Is there a way to kill the Google protect app process using package disabler pro (or similar app) or add my beloved app to the play protect ignore list/whitelist (Google does NOT give me the option to ignore)?
With overdraw & notifications enabled, Google play protect warns about installation. I tell Google it's ok. After installation, Google uninstalls it anyway. THIS OCCURS WHEN EVERY BUTTON/TOGGLE IS TURNED OFF/DON'T SCAN/ALLOW UNAPPROVED APPS/PLAY PROTECT OFF IN BOTH GOOGLE PLAY & IN GOOGLE SETTINGS.
helpneeded9 said:
Is it possible to stop triggering Google play protect even though SCANNING is OFF?
*I CANNOT keep an app that google play protect doesn't aprove of installed!!! Google play protect AUTOMATICALLY deletes my app without my permission!!!!
THERE IS NO LONGER "DEVICE SECURITY" IN THE SYSTEM APP LIST, so where is the security database kept for Google play protect?
I have had my favorite little unapproved app for 2 years now & am familiar with how to manipulate my phone. Everything is disabled, google notifications, app overdraw, allow less secure apps, Google play protect off, don't verify apps, don't update anything, and many services are disabled using an app called "package disabler pro".
WHAT ELSE CAN I DO TO STOP GOOGLE PLAY PROTECT FROM AUTOMATICALLY DELETING MY APP on a samsung galaxy 7?** I NEED THIS app TO WORK ON & run on an S7 unrooted nougat phone without Google play protect "protecting" me.
*Using google play protect settings (on/off) no longer works!* All apps are scanned regardless of settings.* When Google protect finds the app I wish to keep, IT insists on deleting it without my consent!
* Is there a way to kill the Google protect app process using package disabler pro (or similar app) or add my beloved app to the play protect ignore list/whitelist (Google does NOT give me the option to ignore)?
With overdraw & notifications enabled, Google play protect warns about installation. I tell Google it's ok. After installation, Google uninstalls it anyway. THIS OCCURS WHEN EVERY BUTTON/TOGGLE IS TURNED OFF/DON'T SCAN/ALLOW UNAPPROVED APPS/PLAY PROTECT OFF IN BOTH GOOGLE PLAY & IN GOOGLE SETTINGS.
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Open playstore>playprotect>uncheck checking device for malware
as my post stated, play protect settings
Play protect settings are all off (don't scan), rechecked to confirm no changes (still "don't scan") both before & after install, both in Google settings and in Google play.
GOOGLE PLAY PROTECT still scans, still give no option other than "uninstall" unapproved app, & if I approve the installation of my app or block the Notifications, my app is still removed without my consent. THERE IS NO OPTION TO IGNORE.
Does anyone know??
Everything I can think of to turn off is turned off or blocked, including all tracking & SCANNING. I want to keep my unapproved app. How do I make Google play protect stop .... which background processes are new on Google play protect? How do I find out what they've changed?
giving up
Disabled google play on all devices.
There are alternatives to that app store
Were you ever able to do this? I've been trying unsuccessfully and it keeps insisting that I delete the app and disabling it
I feel it a kind of harassment by Google. Im mean they give you an option to turn off scanning and play protect yet they do not comply with there own policy. Its just a toggle to keep it ftom automatically uninstalling an app but its obviously Google continues scanning or there would not be a notification otherwise. If you go to Google more info its instructions that lead you to somewhere elso and at the end asks "was this helpful" as if they giva a ........? A few years aga people completed abot " G plus" forced installed , like it or not. Clised for Googles inability to secure isers information. Now its Instant Apps , "Google give ith and Google take ith away".
Did anyone ever get a solution to this? I'm having the same problem - everything disabled/enabled/selected/deselected, etc but Play Protect still sends a notification and uninstalls my app. The problem I'm having is that it doesn't happen immediately, rather on the next scan, so the app functions normally for an arbitrary length of time, then it's suddenly unavailable. This is annoying and disruptive and I'd love to know how to resolve the issue for good. Please advise...
I'm seeing this quirk as well, scanning is off yet it still triggers an alert for an app. Annoying.
many apps don't actually need Google play services to run properly. It's a huge battery hog, and since I only use the very occasional maps, and I check for app updates manually already anyway. I have it frozen with no ill effects for what I normally use, and enable when needed.
The only problem is that popup saying to enable them or the app won't run. I can disable notifications for Zedge and I don't care, but for something like my texting app, if I disable those ones I won't know about new messages either. The texting app itself, of course, runs just fine as well.
Please don't preach about how essential those services are, I know most users rely heavily on them. My situation is rare, I know that. Just looking to save battery without the hassle of those pretend warnings.
Pawprints1986 said:
many apps don't actually need Google play services to run properly. It's a huge battery hog, and since I only use the very occasional maps, and I check for app updates manually already anyway. I have it frozen with no ill effects for what I normally use, and enable when needed.
The only problem is that popup saying to enable them or the app won't run. I can disable notifications for Zedge and I don't care, but for something like my texting app, if I disable those ones I won't know about new messages either. The texting app itself, of course, runs just fine as well.
Please don't preach about how essential those services are, I know most users rely heavily on them. My situation is rare, I know that. Just looking to save battery without the hassle of those pretend warnings.
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Maybe, instead of freezing Google Play Services, you can manage the individual services that it has running(I can't remember the name of the app used to disable in-app services) to disable the battery hogging services while leaving the rest of the services going. This might trick the system into detecting that Google Play Services is running(this might stop the error message), but the services that are running will use very little battery(depending on which services you disable).
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Droidriven said:
Maybe, instead of freezing Google Play Services, you can manage the individual services that it has running(I can't remember the name of the app used to disable in-app services) to disable the battery hogging services while leaving the rest of the services going. This might trick the system into detecting that Google Play Services is running(this might stop the error message), but the services that are running will use very little battery(depending on which services you disable).
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Only issue with going that way is I've never found a comprehensive list as to what each service is needed for (for my needs mainly the play store, but also the occasional maps). Those are the only 2 things that truly don't run properly with all of those services stopped. With the apps I currently use that is. I know things could change, but for now at least...
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I understand the basic architecture of standard Android and how Google adds Google Play Services and Google apps to make it their own. Even as a privacy fan, I like the architecture of implementing APIs in this add-on to remove dependency from the OEMs, and allow updating Android apart from the OEM participation. I am a bit disturbed by the amount of data that can go through these API's, which would be transmitted to Google.
My question is, is Google Play services simply providing privacy intrusive APIs? If I owned an Android device with no Google Play Services, and absolutely no Google apps (other than AOSP), would adding Google Play Services itself (removing all permissions from it) reduce privacy in any way? I guess what I'm asking is, does Google Play Services perform any privacy intrusive functions in and of itself without other Google apps? If it simply provides an API for apps to use (mainly Google apps) to access functions that are privacy violators, but no app was on your device that utilized these functions, do you sacrifice anything?
Thanks
brainysmurf said:
I understand the basic architecture of standard Android and how Google adds Google Play Services and Google apps to make it their own. Even as a privacy fan, I like the architecture of implementing APIs in this add-on to remove dependency from the OEMs, and allow updating Android apart from the OEM participation. I am a bit disturbed by the amount of data that can go through these API's, which would be transmitted to Google.
My question is, is Google Play services simply providing privacy intrusive APIs? If I owned an Android device with no Google Play Services, and absolutely no Google apps (other than AOSP), would adding Google Play Services itself (removing all permissions from it) reduce privacy in any way? I guess what I'm asking is, does Google Play Services perform any privacy intrusive functions in and of itself without other Google apps? If it simply provides an API for apps to use (mainly Google apps) to access functions that are privacy violators, but no app was on your device that utilized these functions, do you sacrifice anything?
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I have been wondering about the same thing and am surprised that your post has received zero replies so far. Since posting the question did you find out anything more about this that you think is worth sharing?
From my understanding Google Play services are like a black box that you have no control over so I am not sure that removing permissions would work or be feasible. My understanding* is that Play Services can be upgraded/changed by Google without requiring your permission and are effectively working like a backdoor - so from that point of view it may be best to avoid them completely.
*I am no Android expert and if anyone with more knowledge cares to chime to correct me please do!
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I have been wondering about the same thing and am surprised that your post has received zero replies so far. Since posting the question did you find out anything more about this that you think is worth sharing?
From my understanding Google Play services are like a black box that you have no control over so I am not sure that removing permissions would work or be feasible. My understanding* is that Play Services can be upgraded/changed by Google without requiring your permission and are effectively working like a backdoor - so from that point of view it may be best to avoid them completely.
*I am no Android expert and if anyone with more knowledge cares to chime to correct me please do!
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I haven't since discovered much on the matter. The details behind GPS are still obscured. Sometimes I hear that it is another android app, constrained by the standard permissions model. Other times, I hear that it is a special systems application that can "do things"... Nevertheless, I have heard from many that using android devices without GPS is easier these days. You can try that out... I too was surprised that I didn't get much response, though there are other discussions which can help inform you on how to deal with the privacy concerns over GPS.
Boost carrier Moto g Stylus 5G 2022 XT2215-4 with Android 12. Google Play Services App is DISABLED. I cannot completely disable the Google Play Services Availability alert option in the Phone App (SHOW NOTIFICATIONS locked). Other apps allow the user to disable the Google Play Services Availability alert. Is there a fix for the Phone App?
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You can temporarily disable Google play Services. I normally do unless it's needed like for Gmail. Playstore, Backup Transport are also a dependencies of it. Pretty much a menace... even on Android 9
Change the default phone app and disable Google Dialer.
blackhawk said:
You can temporarily disable Google play Services. I normally do unless it's needed like for Gmail. Playstore, Backup Transport are also a dependencies of it. Pretty much a menace... even on Android 9
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Thanks for your input. I disabled Google Play Services. Even removed it using ADB. Unfortunately, I cannot turn off the alert in the PHONE APP that's looking for Google Play Services (see attached screen shots). The radio button to disable the alert is greyed out.
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Change the default phone app and disable Google Dialer.
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1. Are you recommending that I install another phone app instead of the default Android? Any recommendation.
2. Isn't Google dialer part of the phone app?
Phone app is fully functional. The issue is the alert message prompting the activation of Google Play Services. I can turn off this prompt with other apps, but not the phone app.
furballi said:
1. Are you recommending that I install another phone app instead of the default Android? Any recommendation.
2. Isn't Google dialer part of the phone app?
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Yes. Since the notification cannot be disabled, it can become annoying after a while.
Google Dialer is currently your phone app and is set as default.
Install a 3rd party dialer app of your choice and set it as default. Now you'll be able to disable Google Dialer (or Phone) app from its app info page.
My recommendation
Simple Dialer - Apps on Google Play
Manage phone calls with this simple phone dialer app with phonebook
play.google.com
If you're fine without call recording feature, the above is an excellent and safe alternative.
Alternative Source
Simple Dialer | F-Droid - Free and Open Source Android App Repository
Manage phone calls with this simple phone dialer app with phonebook
f-droid.org
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Yes. Since the notification cannot be disabled, it can become annoying after a while.
Google Dialer is currently your phone app and is set as default.
Install a 3rd party dialer app of your choice and set it as default. Now you'll be able to disable Google Dialer (or Phone) app from its app info page.
My recommendation:
Simple Dialer - Apps on Google Play
Manage phone calls with this simple phone dialer app with phonebook
play.google.com
If you're fine without call recording feature, the above is an excellent and safe alternative.
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Excellent! Will install the other option. I also have the 6 GB RAM version of this phone from Metro. Per app inspection, the other phone app is identical in revision number, but it doesn't have the Google Play Services Availability radio option.
If time permits, I may remove Phone App via ADB, then download the next Phone App apk. I don't know if Google Play Services Availability is hard coded into Boost's Android 12 build. Thank you very much for your input.
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Thanks for your input. I disabled Google Play Services. Even removed it using ADB. Unfortunately, I cannot turn off the alert in the PHONE APP that's looking for Google Play Services (see attached screen shots). The radio button to disable the alert is greyed out.
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On Samsung's they use their own phone/messaging apps and Google play Services isn't mandatorily intergrated into them so they will run fine without it. You're going to have to play with it.
Completely removing Google play Services could cause headaches. It maybe possible to block the popup via a adb edit but no idea how or if possible on a non-rooted phone.
All Gookill apps are a pain and Google play Services is integrated into them to a greater or lesser extent. 3rd party phone app... maybe.
furballi said:
Excellent! Will install the other option. I also have the 6 GB RAM version of this phone from Metro. Per app inspection, the other phone app is identical in revision number, but it doesn't have the Google Play Services Availability radio option.
If time permits, I may remove Phone App via ADB, then download the next Phone App apk. I don't know if Google Play Services Availability is hard coded into Boost's Android 12 build. Thank you very much for your input.
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I suggest that you install the alternative app first, set it as default and test everything is working fine (although there is no reason why it wouldn't) before attempting to remove the stock dialer.
blackhawk said:
On Samsung's they use their own phone/messaging apps and Google play Services isn't mandatorily intergrated into them so they will run fine without it. You're going to have to play with it.
Completely removing Google play Services could cause headaches. It maybe possible to block the popup via a adb edit but no idea how or if possible on a non-rooted phone.
All Gookill apps are a pain and Google play Services is integrated into them to a greater or lesser extent. 3rd party phone app... maybe.
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A whole lot of apps are dependent on Google Play Services. On one of my devices, I disabled it and soon after I got some 12 to 15 notifications from different apps asking me to enable it. The notifications were so frequent and annoying that I just re-enabled it for peace of mind. 🫣
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I suggest that you install the alternative app first, set it as default and test everything is working fine (although there is no reason why it wouldn't) before attempting to remove the stock dialer.
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Yeah, the dialer is part of the core function of a... phone.
Lol, proceed with caution unless you enjoy factory resets
blackhawk said:
On Samsung's they use their own phone/messaging apps and Google play Services isn't mandatorily intergrated into them so they will run fine without it. You're going to have to play with it.
Completely removing Google play Services could cause headaches. It maybe possible to block the popup via a adb edit but no idea how or if possible on a non-rooted phone.
All Gookill apps are a pain and Google play Services is integrated into them to a greater or lesser extent. 3rd party phone app... maybe.
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Thank you.
TheMystic said:
A whole lot of apps are dependent on Google Play Services. On one of my devices, I disabled it and soon after I got some 12 to 15 notifications from different apps asking me to enable it. The notifications were so frequent and annoying that I just re-enabled it for peace of mind. 🫣
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You got a lot of trashware running...
blackhawk said:
You got a lot of trashware running...
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Maps (not just Google Maps), SMS app, mail apps, taxi apps.... aren't trashware.
TheMystic said:
A whole lot of apps are dependent on Google Play Services. On one of my devices, I disabled it and soon after I got some 12 to 15 notifications from different apps asking me to enable it. The notifications were so frequent and annoying that I just re-enabled it for peace of mind. 🫣
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Will test drive the alternate phone app. I also saw a bunch of alerts, but I was able to kill them by going into each app and disable the Google Play Services alert radio button. The GPS's main function is probably to update the app. All the apps are fully functional without GPS running in the background.
Google's is in the business of data mining. That's why I want tight control of all Google apps whenever possible.
furballi said:
Will test drive the alternate phone app. I also saw a bunch of alerts, but I was able to kill them by going into each app and disable the Google Play Services alert radio button. The GPS's main function is probably to update the app. All the apps are fully functional without GPS running in the background.
Google's is in the business of data mining. That's why I want tight control of all Google apps whenever possible.
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Updating is handled by Google Play Store.
Google Play Services offers a whole range of services that apps use, such as location, push notifications, etc.
If you are able to find apps that offer full functionality without depending on GPS, then you'll be fine disabling it.
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Maps (not just Google Maps), SMS app, mail apps, taxi apps.... aren't trashware.
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Yeah, they are... sorry.
Gmaps runs fine without it. Less some of the junk features.
Driving a taxi sucks... people are trouble.
Drunks are the worst.
TheMystic said:
Maps (not just Google Maps), SMS app, mail apps, taxi apps.... aren't trashware.
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I use HERE drive. Download the map into your phone and turn ON location. Hopefully, I only need to use the SMS and Clock app. But I agree, a lot of useful stuffs are in the Google ecosystem. Chrome is significantly faster than Firefox per my setup. Edge was fast until it got bogged down with AI search. This is how they push you to upgrade the processor.
blackhawk said:
Driving a taxi sucks... people are trouble
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I'm referring to taxi services as a customer though.
TheMystic said:
I'm referring to taxi services as a customer though.
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Than no need for Google play Services 99% of the time. It's a data mining parasite.