A serious bluetooth audio latency problem on OP6 - OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers

Bluetooth audio has latency. We all know it. Using my Aptx-enabled bluetooth earbuds on my OP6 while watching YouTube, Plex, VLC, etc has no discernable latency. Perfect.
However, on my OP6 I have a massive issue: all games, not matter what kind they are, have around 300-500 ms+ of lag, making any game of any kind totally unplayable, from the resource-intensive PUBG mobile to any random 2D side scroller indie title. ALL games. ALL the same lag with audio only over bluetooth.
I have two nice bluetooth earphones, and various cheapie ones, and ALL of them exhibit this problem, including the aptx, bluetooth 4.0, 4.1, and 5.0 ones. This is also true on clean flashes of OOS 5.1.8, 5.1.9, 5.1.11, and both open betas for Pie. NO difference whatsoever in terms of bluetooth lag: all videos and other streaming services perfect, all games completely unplayable.
I've messed with every normal bluetooth menu and developer options bluetooth menu settings I can find.
Am I missing something here?

Sorry for your problem man, but I use oneplus's bullets wireless earbuds 99% of the time and I have zero issues.

Juwapa said:
Sorry for your problem man, but I use oneplus's bullets wireless earbuds 99% of the time and I have zero issues.
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Thanks for the sympathy. It's indeed frustrating. No one is talking about this that I can find.
So you have no real audio latency in games at all? My latency is huge and anyone would notice it, so if you say no, I believe you. What are some specific games that you play?
I've actually had my sights on the bullets. I know they use aptX, which is supposed to be great for latency...but I already have some aptX earbuds! Is there something else technology-wise going on with the bullets that would have a different result than mine?

I used to face latency but somehow it got solved after I uninstalled V4A. But what I have noticed is that volume on Bluetooth devices varies. Like it reduces suddenly and then gradually rises to the set value.

Ankit Chahar said:
I used to face latency but somehow it got solved after I uninstalled V4A. But what I have noticed is that volume on Bluetooth devices varies. Like it reduces suddenly and then gradually rises to the set value.
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I've never installed V4A

I really don't notice any audio lag. I don't play too many games though, Minecraft, asphalt 9, and fortnite are the only games I play regularly. And I'll occasionally download a random game from time to time.
However, my phone is also rooted with magisk 17.1 and I have a few audio modifications. All modules I have that could possibly change audio are Viper4Android through xxx NoLimits 2.9.2 (along with whatever else that installs that affects audio), Android audio fix, and audio compatibility fix. Maybe one of those fixed the problem?
As for the bullets wireless, these are the most expensive earbuds I've had, which obviously makes them best, but they are really good, especially when you use them with V4A. However, I can't recommend you going out and spending $70 on more headphones with the possibility that they'll still lag for you, that's your call.
I have no idea what the problem is for you, but that seems really frustrating, I hope you figure it out or it works itself out. Best of luck to you.

i would suggest maybe clearing the bluetooth cache? Its an odd issue, but i've experienced it before as well, on youtube nonetheless. Then it somehow just went away. i dont play games on my phone, so im not sure this will work, but its worth a shot.

Even though this flash is under 24 hours old, I just tried clearing the bluetooth cache. No luck.
I also tried installing V4A and messing with some settings. No change for better or worse. All video content is synced perfectly, all audio in games lagging behind badly.

same here dude, lags only at games, with or without v4a + audio fixes for multiple v4a and sauron

more_than_hater said:
same here dude, lags only at games, with or without v4a + audio fixes for multiple v4a and sauron
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Thank you! You are the first person to mention this that I've seen. Maybe we are the only two people in the world who play games on a OP6 with bluetooth audio, or do other people really not notice a near half-second delay with all sound effects with they play literally any game on the Play Store? You'd think that would come up somewhere...
So what do we do now?

deedaleet said:
Thank you! You are the first person to mention this that I've seen. Maybe we are the only two people in the world who play games on a OP6 with bluetooth audio, or do other people really not notice a near half-second delay with all sound effects with they play literally any game on the Play Store? You'd think that would come up somewhere...
So what do we do now?
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We all know the OP6 has the best internal speaker, just use that.

Juwapa said:
We all know the OP6 has the best internal speaker.
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Wow wow wow, hold on, cowboy

I can't help but think this is a hardware problem...but because we have no latency issues with videos at all, how does that point to a hardware issue?

Is there any news about this, because really it suck that we cannot play a game with BT, even when i chat there is latency between pictures and audio, at first i thought it was because of the bad connection or something but when i tried pubg ther was latency, but with the walking dead there was none , very strange

deedaleet said:
Bluetooth audio has latency. We all know it. Using my Aptx-enabled bluetooth earbuds on my OP6 while watching YouTube, Plex, VLC, etc has no discernable latency. Perfect.
However, on my OP6 I have a massive issue: all games, not matter what kind they are, have around 300-500 ms+ of lag, making any game of any kind totally unplayable, from the resource-intensive PUBG mobile to any random 2D side scroller indie title. ALL games. ALL the same lag with audio only over bluetooth.
I have two nice bluetooth earphones, and various cheapie ones, and ALL of them exhibit this problem, including the aptx, bluetooth 4.0, 4.1, and 5.0 ones. This is also true on clean flashes of OOS 5.1.8, 5.1.9, 5.1.11, and both open betas for Pie. NO difference whatsoever in terms of bluetooth lag: all videos and other streaming services perfect, all games completely unplayable.
I've messed with every normal bluetooth menu and developer options bluetooth menu settings I can find.
Am I missing something here?
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I'm a Youtuber bro playing heavy games fac same problem ?

Why does not a SINGLE review mention this? Why is this a tiny 2 page thread and nothing else? Are people who play some games with a BT device really so few?

I also faced this and switched to wired headphones, maybe we should raise a bug report to OnePlus, hope they can do something.

Did this mean audio lag?
i have problem with playing spotify... it sometimes like blank for 1-2 seconds then sound appear again.
And, playing youtube also same... video still playing.. but sound disappear for around 2 secs and appear again.
This when i playing thru Mi bluetooth speaker.
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Ankit Chahar said:
I used to face latency but somehow it got solved after I uninstalled V4A. But what I have noticed is that volume on Bluetooth devices varies. Like it reduces suddenly and then gradually rises to the set value.
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This happens to me as well.

I even tried to check the BT settings on the developper tools , nothing really changes after you choose a setting

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[Q] Netflix lock up

Hello,
Has anyone else experienced Netflix locking up during playing (and requiring a reboot)?
bittersound said:
Hello,
Has anyone else experienced Netflix locking up during playing (and requiring a reboot)?
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Occasionally. Maybe every 3 or 4 shows that I watch.
Hmmm, it's a right pain in the minge isn't it?
Still, could be worse.
I'm actually more annoyed at my recent upgrade for PowerAmpPro. They got the album art right but it freezes in mid-song. Often. Oftener than Netflix anyway.
I have also encountered this problem unfortunately... I just want to enjoy my Dr. Who darn it...
rtfm1777 said:
I'm actually more annoyed at my recent upgrade for PowerAmpPro. They got the album art right but it freezes in mid-song. Often. Oftener than Netflix anyway.
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I was having some glitchness with Poweramp when I first installed it. It would freeze if the screen went off. My solution was to disable the screen from turning off while the player was active and on top. It will play for 4 or 5 hours without any interruptions that way. Not the best work around power wise. There has been one or two versions released since I originally had that issue (currently on build 2.0.5.-build-488 Full Version), so not sure if the problem is still there in the newer versions
As for the Netflix issue, I've been hoping that they'd release a magical update fixing the issue on the 7.0+, but I'm not holding my breath. Maybe if/when ICS drops it will work right...
Thanks. I'll try that out tonight, see if it makes a difference.
Speaking of audio difficulties have you experienced the low level audio fluctuations that are bothering a number of us. Different apps, different audio streams, all with annoying varying audio at low levels.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1527635&page=3
rtfm1777 said:
Thanks. I'll try that out tonight, see if it makes a difference.
Speaking of audio difficulties have you experienced the low level audio fluctuations that are bothering a number of us. Different apps, different audio streams, all with annoying varying audio at low levels.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1527635&page=3
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I can't say I have noticed the low level volume issue ever. I mainly use poweramp/tab 7.0+ connected to a mixer and amplifier at work, so i never have at it set to low. Haven't noticed any volume issues on netflix on headphones either (rarely use low volume for anything i suppose).

Music"not smooth" in playback issue

Hello, I know this seems to be a silly problem, but this starts to become really disturbing. I don't know why when I play some music with my headset plugged into my phone, the songs play as usual, the quality is satisfactory, but lots of time the songs stop and continue by itself (buffer if you like) and you can obviously notice the gap between them (it is really small (about 1/1000 seconds; but you can definitely notice it and it is very disturbing when you are really in the music). I have this issue in my GT-N7100, but also in my MB860 as well, so I do not think this is a problem for a specific device. I've tried different audio drivers and different headsets (I am currently using the Beats one). If it doesn't changed anything. This problem happens most often when I am on a bus trip or in a car, but less frequent when I am at home or in a library. Does anyone has the similar problem and knows how to solve it? Thanks.
First I thought, it might be a RAM problem but for such a strong device as the GT-N7100 it shouldn't be a problem. Do you use a certain music player or does it happen with different players?
EDIT: If you are using some kind of equalizer, try turning it off and see if it helps.
Trivigumle said:
First I thought, it might be a RAM problem but for such a strong device as the GT-N7100 it shouldn't be a problem. Do you use a certain music player or does it happen with different players?
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Thanks for your reply, I previous use Poweramp with the MB860, and now PlayerPro for the GT-N7100. They all have the same issue. And I do not think it is a RAM problem too, since even when I use my iPod touch (with only 1 core), it plays music like charm!
Trivigumle said:
First I thought, it might be a RAM problem but for such a strong device as the GT-N7100 it shouldn't be a problem. Do you use a certain music player or does it happen with different players?
EDIT: If you are using some kind of equalizer, try turning it off and see if it helps.
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I never use equalizer since it makes too much noise with some songs.
Ok, that was just a low CPU speed issue. I fixed it by setting it to at least 800MHz.

pixel audio, bug

This is the problem I'm having with my pixel's audio. It happens with headphones and external. Videos I play, become distorted in intervals. An echo and overall broken barely understandable audio. Some fixes I tried are installing audio control apps. Maybe a kernel is what I need or magisk. I what to know the best route before I do to much back peddling. Thanks
Edit: resolved, whatever it was went away with upgrading to Oreo.
alladinscastle said:
This is the problem I'm having with my pixel's audio. It happens with headphones and external. Videos I play, become distorted in intervals. An echo and overall broken barely understandable audio. Some fixes I tried are installing audio control apps. Maybe a kernel is what I need or magisk. I what to know the best route before I do to much back peddling. Thanks
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magisk (itself) wouldn't have any effect on audio at all... sometimes apps are badly written and don't use audio APIs correctly, which can cause glitches... I have a patch in my kernel that makes sure even stupid apps end up setting the correct sample rate and sample size... if it's happening in intervals, it sounds like there may be something on your system (an app?) that is interrupting audio and you might be getting buffer underruns (the odd glitch or popping sound?)...
it also could be that u have a hardware issue. hard to say, without hearing / seeing what u are talking about... you could try my kernel and see if it helps.... sometimes audio apps help, but mileage varies... and if it's a hardware problem they won't fix it, maybe just reduce it. (not saying u have that issue, no idea).
I'm not sure what you mean by distorted though? like the gain is too high, or does it sound grainy and like the sound is 'pulling apart'? ... what app are u playing videos in, where sound becomes glitchy?
Yeah, magisk coupled with one of its deeper access audio algorithm app things is what I mean. The kernel being another similarly capable audio software tweak. Some other thread was talking about hardware fixing pixels audio cheapness. But I have a lack of tools and experience with that. Maybe have someone do that for me in the end. They were changing headphone jacks and even motherboard components. The distortion is like the sound of slow motion audio, bassy, and obvious echo. Then also fine at the beginning of a video and half the rest of the time. In YouTube, boat browser so far. I shall try kernel first.
alladinscastle said:
Yeah, magisk coupled with one of its deeper access audio algorithm app things is what I mean. The kernel being another similarly capable audio software tweak. Some other thread was talking about hardware fixing pixels audio cheapness. But I have a lack of tools and experience with that. Maybe have someone do that for me in the end. They were changing headphone jacks and even motherboard components. The distortion is like the sound of slow motion audio, bassy, and obvious echo. Then also fine at the beginning of a video and half the rest of the time. In YouTube, boat browser so far. I shall try kernel first.
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I'm not really following what you are saying about the deeper access algorithm or that being akin to any sort of kernel related audio tweak....afaik, those audio mods are just causing more buffering, which reduces the chance of buffer underruns. Stuff done in the kernel would be entirely different. not similar at all...
"sound of slow motion audio" ~ grainy then? like it's pulling apart, as I asked? ... it could be a hardware issue, it could be a software issue. Hard to say.
My description is some jibberish I know. I'm not intune with how some kernels, flash files, magisk modules exactly modify my device. I know to consult those threads for their ops and discussions. I made this thread to find answers for this problem.
Viper4Android still one of the reasons many people root. The incredibly powerful and popular audio modification... "
This example above. So you know how this could be a fix for me? What kernel do you suggest?
My car has a noise homie. It sounds like crap.
This is an example of my device's distortion. With distortion beginning at 45"
I will send it to you. Something is wrong with XDA
Went from nougat to Oreo. No more audio problem yet.

Zenfone 6 audio sounds different from everything else?

I'm posting this based on my testing on various sources that the ZF6 sounds with my 3.5mm earphones sound different than my laptop, desktop, and galaxy S7. Desktop, laptop and my S7 sound identical.
Any rock song seem to be overly muffled on the ZF6 on my 3.5mm earphones and I can't seem to fix it. I have tried testing with various settings in AudioWizard and also tried disablling it to no avail.
Not sure if it was like this in Android 9 and also in Android 10.
Anyone else notice this?
I don't have any problem with audio. Have you tried another media player? I use Poweramp.
aleksander002 said:
I don't have any problem with audio. Have you tried another media player? I use Poweramp.
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Tried different media player, youtube, twitch. Everything sounds off on the ZF6 compared to my mentioned examples.
Can you elaborate more about what exactly makes it sound off? Weird frequency response, some kind of sound effect, distortions/cracks? I will try to compare my phone once more.
aleksander002 said:
Can you elaborate more about what exactly makes it sound off? Weird frequency response, some kind of sound effect, distortions/cracks? I will try to compare my phone once more.
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Sorry, English is not my first language.
As far as as describing the problem, there's no inherent "problem" with the sound per se, but most songs I listen to on a daily basis sounds very different and off in a really bad way. I've disabled AudioWizard, and also tweaked with the equalizer, bass, treble in AudioWizard and nothing.
I've kept my best in keeping everything same for testing. Like, listening to the same song, using the same earphones, and pretty much tried my best in keeping things in stock settings and same across my laptop, desktop, s7 and zf6 as best as I could.
I think there's some funky equalizer setting that is muffling certain "tones" in music and I can't access it or something. I have no idea.
Not rooted/locked bootloader if that makes any difference. No funky app or add-on that could possibly affect this.
Edit: try listening to this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3x8geNo31yg
the first 30 seconds sounds so obviously different to me. If this is not the case for you then something is wrong with my zf6 whether by some setting or defective
I can't hear any significant difference between my Zenfone 6 and a Acer Laptop without EQs. The music is quite old and not a high quality one but other than that everything plays fine.
Hi,
I do not own a Zenfone 6 but did own a Zenfone 5 last year and listened to a lot of music. I was coming from an HTC 10(the brand I went back to).
I did experience issues with the sound quality on the Zenfone 5 both on the external speaker and through headphones. The problem being an eq setting (which I had no power over) that lowers automatically the volume when low frequencies (any kind of percussions or beats) played fom either a music player or streaming app. The result was a "wavy" sound where volume fluctuated in a noticeable way, plunging down when low frequencies kicked in (I guess it's a way to stay under a certain maximum dB level?). The rest of the frequencies sounded muffled and blended together. Basically there wasn't a good sound separation even through the headphone jack.
No setting on AudioWizard could solve the issue and it was widely reported on the ZenTalk forums.
I remember a software update which claimed to solve the problem but simply ended rising the max volume through the jack, mantaining the sound distortion as it was. I found no solution whatsoever and switched brand.
I don't know if this problem changed on the 6 but what you describe sounds to me almost exactly what I experienced on the Zenfone 5.
It sounds like there was an output limiter of some kind which was altering the sound to avoid speaker distortion. I didn't notice this on my Zenfone 6. I've never had an Asus before though.
I had several problems with the audio from the 3.5 jack after updating to andoid 10, especially with the fm radio. I had to downgrade to android 9 to fix it.

Question Huawei MatePad 11: Overtuned speaker's sound by default

For music, this is normal. But when you watch a video with a lot of speech, it is very difficult to listen to such a sound. The voices have a lot of low frequencies. Mid frequencies are hard to distinguish. Any noise is cut between words!
In headphones, the first time you connect, the sound is exactly the same. But in the settings, you can switch from Huawei Histen Auto to Huawei Histen Natural. And the sound becomes normal.
But this cannot be done for speakers. Huawei Histen Auto is there forever.
Question: Can something be done about this? For example, disable with ADB?
did you find a solution ?
vic1707 said:
did you find a solution ?
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No.
Only a faint hope remains for a possible release of the HarmonyOS 3.
ch4sys said:
No.
Only a faint hope remains for a possible release of the HarmonyOS 3.
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I think I found it,
uninstalling "com.huawei.imedia.sws" via adb and then rebooting seems to fix it
(hope it's not a placebo effect )
Got uninstallable packages from https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/debloater-huawei-matepad-11-2021.4475143/
And found the specific one by searching for "Histen adb uninstall"
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"com.huawei.imedia.sws"
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I disabled it a long time ago. It seems nothing has changed - probably, it is only for headphones.
We need some reference video - for comparison : )
ch4sys said:
I disabled it a long time ago. It seems nothing has changed - probably, it is only for headphones.
We need some reference video - for comparison : )
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I didn't disabled it, I fully uninstalled it.
The settings isn't even available in the settings app.
I tried listening back to some bits of the first Ant-Man movie where I wasn't able to hear anything, now it's clearly audible and intelligible.
With it fully uninstalled I can hear every bg noises and whispers.
I'm pretty confident in the fact that it worked.
The sound clearly lost some quality but having the full range of sounds is better imo.
If you have a video we could use as a reference feel free to send the link and you listening experience
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If you have a video
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There are probably better examples, but so far I've only found these.
When the voice is sharper, the effect is stronger. And most noticeable at a volume level of five points from zero.
(When the application is disabled, there is no menu in the settings either.)
Just tried again but unfortunately I couldn't hear the sound issue a easly as I would've liked with your videos.
I tried with this one (the first 10secs), the background noises were really disturbing.
After uninstalling everything I could from adb and rebooting I feel like it's a little bit better but again, not sure if it's a placebo effect or not.
Will keep watching movies and videos on it for a few days and hope nothing disturbs me
if it doesn't work I'll try installing an external equalizer like Equalizer FX
vic1707 said:
I tried with this one (the first 10secs)
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I played this video on PC and on another tablet. It feels like our Huawei just doesn't have the best speakers. Their weak point is quiet sounds. And if you do not compare constantly, then, probably, you can get used to it.
ch4sys said:
I played this video on PC and on another tablet. It feels like our Huawei just doesn't have the best speakers. Their weak point is quiet sounds. And if you do not compare constantly, then, probably, you can get used to it.
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I agree with you except on the last point. On some videos it becomes, at least for me, so bad that I had to switch with another device.
I'll keep looking for videos like that
I have a problem where Left & Right are switched with USB-C earbuds. Still waiting on HMOS 3.0 hoping it fix it.

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