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1st Impressions
I use my Samsung Galaxy Note 9 for work, play, and family. I'm told that I am a power user, especially since I'm lucky if I can get more than 10-14 hours out of the battery before I have to charge it. Even With my Note 8, I was lucky to get 8-10 hours. While the Note 9 has a 4,000 mAh battery (the main reason I got this phone), I still need to carry an external battery pack and USB cable if I am out and about and taking pictures and video. I wanted another option and found this battery case. Having the battery built into the case so I don't have to carry an extra battery pack and USB cable makes this worth it. The blue color looks great, and the case fits my phone like a glove. The texture on the back is just smooth enough to feel nice without making me feel like the phone will slip out of my hand. The buttons still work as designed (in some cases interfere with this) and the case still works excellent when removing or inserting the S-Pen. I especially like that with the case on, if I plug the case it, the case and phone are both charging.
Battery
Now for the battery part. I noticed when I turn on the battery pack, my phone says fast charging, but then after a few minutes says cable charging, which makes sense as this is only a 1.5A charging output spec. To test the case, I unplugged my phone at 6 am on Sep 8th and used it as normal all day without ever charging it. By 8 pm, my phone was down to 25%. Most of the time my phone would be dead at this point, but I guess that I did not use it as much since I was off work and getting fewer emails. I powered on the case (which I fully charged beforehand) and set my phone down. I did not touch my phone at all while it was charging from the case. Not wanting to leave it charging overnight as the battery was getting rather warm, I turned off the battery case at 9:30 pm, my phone was at 55%, but I also noticed the battery pack was already down to 2 LED lights (50%?!?!); based on that, I should have only used about 1,500-2,000 mAh of juice. Even if the battery case was down to 50% (2,500 mAh), that should be enough to fully charge my phone when I get up, so I powered the phone off.
When I got up at 4 am, my phone was still at 55% and the battery pack at 50%, so I turned the battery pack back on. Unfortunately, the battery pack only charged my phone to 82% before the battery pack died. While I do not have the ability to test the mAh capacity, based on the math above, it does not seem to be a 5,000 mAh battery as that should have been enough juice to fully charge my phone and have a tiny bit left over; not run out at 82%. I have read online that you need to duty-cycle the battery in the case; let it die fully and then fully charge it so it can calibrate to a full charge.
After fully charging the case (after letting it fully die), I am pleased to report that this will fully charge a dead Note 9, so it is at least 4,000 mAh.
I left my Note 9 off the charger all day yesterday and last night; at 7:01 am, I got the "Battery at 15%" warning, so I turned on Power Saving Mode with background data turned off, and the screen to only 25% brightness. I shut off GPS, Wifi, and Bluetooth and then put the phone into the case and turned it on. Around 9:45am-ish, my phone buzzed and was at 100% with 1 LED left on the case. I estimate this is about 3,000-3,300 mAh worth of juice. By noon, I was back down to 75%, turned on the case and it too me back to 95% before the case died. Based on that, this is close to a 5,000 mAh case if my math is correct. The full duty-cycle was needed and made a large difference in the charge available for my phone.
Things to be aware of:
The battery may not be a true 5,000 mAh, but it's still worth the price and convenience.
If you have small hands, the fingerprint scanner will be hard to use.
There is no data pass-through, but that is advertised.
The phone may say it's fast charging, but I doubt it.
This thing is thick, like 3/4" thick, but not too thick.
Pros:
Great fit
Does not add that much weight
Build quality feels solid
Color is beautiful
Does not interfere with the holes or S-Pen
Charges quickly
Charges phone and case at the same time
Buttons work great, better than others cases I've used
Raised edge and top and bottom, so the screen does not touch table when placed face down
Cons:
Does not seem to be a true 5,000 mAh battery
Thickness (about 3/4" thick), not really a con as this should be expected
No data pass-through
May be difficult to use the fingerprint scanner for smaller hands
Conclusion: I like this, and it is very worth it. I highly recommended this for the Samsung Galaxy Note 9.
Link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07G3F959L
There will be some loss charging from a battery but if it is rated 5000 I think you should get full charge from it.
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There will be some loss charging from a battery but if it is rated 5000 I think you should get full charge from it.
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That was one point I thought about but was not sure. After a few discharges and charges of the case, it will fully charge the phone with a tiny bit of juice life over.
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Hey guys
Well I got my 3200mah seidio battery yesterday. Charged it up overnight for around 10 hours. The phone was off all night, the light was green this morning.
I turned it on while still connected to power and the device said 100% charge and I thought ok sweet now ill test how long it can go!!
once I disconnected it from the power the screen went blank.. so I pressed the power button to turn the screen back on.. however the device was off and came up with the X screen this appeared for around 1 second then off again and on again for 1 second then off again it did this a couple of times before giving up...
Tested the battery in my wifes nexus and its the same
Is there anything I can do? or its a DOA?
I live in Australia and purchased the battery off ebay (brand new in box) so fear that its going to be hard to do a return.
It looks like it might be a bad battery. If you plug in your phone to the charger with this battery installed do you still get that blank screen?
If the battery is bad im sure Seido will replace it...they are a very reputable company.
But why put that hunchback battery on your sleek phone.. Seido has a nice 1600mah that fits perfectly with your N1... you get a little bit more power but dont comprimise the look.
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Bigworm37 said:
It looks like it might be a bad battery. If you plug in your phone to the charger with this battery installed do you still get that blank screen?
But why put that hunchback battery on your sleek phone.. Seido has a nice 1600mah that fits perfectly with your N1... you get a little bit more power but dont comprimise the look.
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BGW
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If I plug my phone back into the charger the light is orange again.
After an hour it returned to green I turned the phone on to test it but kept it on power and it reported 100%.
I powered the phone off disconnected it
Tried turning it on again, this time it got to the desktop but battery status indicated it was critical and the phone would shut down...
The original charge covered the 2-3 hours of charge on the green light that seidio's website recommends
Now its been on charge again for an hour and is orange still...
total charge time on the wall charger is around 12 hours now.. im pretty sure its dead...
As for why I want a chunky battery I need it for while im at work.. and I actually am liking the increased depth in my hands fits them much better.
I bought the 2800mAh battery when it came out. When I plugged it in, it did some weird stuff. Took few charges/discharges to settle. I'm not saying yours isn't a dead battery, but I had similar weird stuff happen to me.
So I picked up a Nexus 5, and I like it, but being that it has a sealed battery I'm a little OCD over prolonging the life of it. After doing some digging, I have come up with the following tips to follow (and some of these are common sense with regards to a lithium battery):
Don't let your battery dip below 20% often
NEVER let it die completely (unless you have to calibrate your phones battery readings)
Charging to 100% isn't the best for it, and especially don't let it sit at 100% due to heat issues
Don't charge it in subfreezing temperatures, or especially in 100+ degree weather
Generally speaking, small charges spaced out (adding 15-30% or so at a time) is better than ~75% at a time due to heat issues
Very, very small charges done in rapid succession (adding 5-10% - A.K.A. "bump charging"), is bad
Qi supposedly heats the battery too much
OK, so that's what I've established in doing some research... Anyone disagree with this?
So generally speaking, what I should do to maintain maximum battery health is use my phone from 90% back down to 20% (and back up to 90%) regularly, correct? Obviously this is in a perfect scenario, but it's good to know.
Well I had a few side questions of my own:
If you get a quality Qi charger that runs (acceptably) cool, will it still be too hot to use day in and day out for optimum battery health?
If you do shorter charges on Qi (say 15-30% as mentioned above), would that be OK at that point?
What if I want to go use my phone heavily (lets say play a game for an hour), is it less stress on the battery to use it while on the charger (and get hot), or just let the battery cycle on it's own and charge it multiple times in the process? Basically, does using the phone while plugged in (whether charging, or trickle-charging at 100%) cause more degradation than cycling the battery multiple times?
Is letting your phone off the charger at night (cycling the battery, even if just a little bit) really better than leaving your phone plugged in at 100%?
This is an interesting topic to debate, and I want to hear what you think!
rytymu said:
So I picked up a Nexus 5, and I like it, but being that it has a sealed battery I'm a little OCD over prolonging the life of it. After doing some digging, I have come up with the following tips to follow (and some of these are common sense with regards to a lithium battery):
Don't let your battery dip below 20% often
NEVER let it die completely (unless you have to calibrate your phones battery readings)
Charging to 100% isn't the best for it, and especially don't let it sit at 100% due to heat issues
Don't charge it in subfreezing temperatures, or especially in 100+ degree weather
Generally speaking, small charges spaced out (adding 15-30% or so at a time) is better than ~75% at a time due to heat issues
Very, very small charges done in rapid succession (adding 5-10% - A.K.A. "bump charging"), is bad
Qi supposedly heats the battery too much
OK, so that's what I've established in doing some research... Anyone disagree with this?
So generally speaking, what I should do to maintain maximum battery health is use my phone from 90% back down to 20% (and back up to 90%) regularly, correct? Obviously this is in a perfect scenario, but it's good to know.
Well I had a few side questions of my own:
If you get a quality Qi charger that runs (acceptably) cool, will it still be too hot to use day in and day out for optimum battery health?
If you do shorter charges on Qi (say 15-30% as mentioned above), would that be OK at that point?
What if I want to go use my phone heavily (lets say play a game for an hour), is it less stress on the battery to use it while on the charger (and get hot), or just let the battery cycle on it's own and charge it multiple times in the process? Basically, does using the phone while plugged in (whether charging, or trickle-charging at 100%) cause more degradation than cycling the battery multiple times?
Is letting your phone off the charger at night (cycling the battery, even if just a little bit) really better than leaving your phone plugged in at 100%?
This is an interesting topic to debate, and I want to hear what you think!
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First off, BUMP!
Second, here are some results I've had. While idling, the battery life is RIDICULOUSLY good, however, whenever the screen is on the battery is terrible... It's like a Toyota Prius with a V10 hybrid-drive; around town it is very efficient, but get on the highway and VROOOOOOOOM!
The phone was at 42% charge after two days. Granted, there was only 37 minutes of screen usage, but I did quite a bit of Bluetooth / Spotify streaming. Wifi was on and connected almost the entire time. I do notice that my idle drain goes from .2% to .6% lost per hour on wifi, to 1.5% to 3% lost per hour while on HSPA+ / LTE.
rytymu said:
So I picked up a Nexus 5, and I like it, but being that it has a sealed battery I'm a little OCD over prolonging the life of it. After doing some digging, I have come up with the following tips to follow (and some of these are common sense with regards to a lithium battery):
Don't let your battery dip below 20% often
NEVER let it die completely (unless you have to calibrate your phones battery readings)
Charging to 100% isn't the best for it, and especially don't let it sit at 100% due to heat issues
Don't charge it in subfreezing temperatures, or especially in 100+ degree weather
Generally speaking, small charges spaced out (adding 15-30% or so at a time) is better than ~75% at a time due to heat issues
Very, very small charges done in rapid succession (adding 5-10% - A.K.A. "bump charging"), is bad
Qi supposedly heats the battery too much
OK, so that's what I've established in doing some research... Anyone disagree with this?
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Most of those aren't really wrong, they're just massively over-exaggerated.
A. Heat only matters if you're getting the battery up to like, 50C often. Note that the phone will actually stop charging if it hits these temperatures.
B. Small charges don't really help or hurt.
C. Qi doesn't heat the battery itself that much.
Overall, you're overthinking it way too much. Just don't leave your phone on the car dash in the middle of the summer sun, don't leave it on the charger for an entire week without unplugging it, and try not to drain it completely to 0%.
Li-Polymer batteries are far more resilient than people give them credit for. Even if you used your phone absolutely perfectly, over the course of a couple years you'd be lucky to get an extra 5% of life out of it. It's not worth your time and stress at all.
When I first got my Galaxy S3 (Verizon) the OEM battery lasted at least a good 9 or 10 hours, usually plenty to last the day. But I wanted more than that so I got a pack of 2x QCell 2300mAh batteries for cheap on amazon, with one of the wall chargers that you pop the battery into. That was July of last year and I promptly lost one of the batts at school, so in May of this year I got another pack of 2 batts, this time EZOPower, 2100mAh.
Both brands worked pretty well while I had them and I would generally just start the day taking my GS3 off the charger and putting the extra battery in my pocket, and at ~8pm or so I'd switch them out and have more than enough for the rest of the day, and some for the next day if I didn't make it home for some reason that night.
But recently that time to switch has been creeping down earlier and earlier, and lately I've noticed I wake up to the battery icon showing the circle but no percentage (just switched from AOSP to Pacrom, dunno if that makes a difference) and when I take it off it's about 95%. When I switch batts, which is now at about 2 or 3pm if I wake up at 10, the second one (coming off the cheap battery-only wall charger) is at 75% or thereabouts and each lasts less than 5 hours.
Attached are my stats from the other day. I keep all my radios on all day usually but lately I've been having to selectively put it on airplane mode whenever I can afford to, if I want to have enough juice to last through the evening. This sucks. I know batteries die over time but I've literally had these ones for a few months and they're terrible already. Is it because of my hot swapping habits? Does that drive down the battery life over time, or is it something to do with how android pegs the amount of juice left on each battery? Is there a way to wipe the battery stats, or would that even help? There used to be an option for it in CWM but I looked today and I suppose it's gone. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong but I've never had battery life this bad on any phone.
tl;dr bought a pair of non-OEM batteries with a wall charger, been hot-swapping them for more power throughout the day, but in just a few months their life is approaching nil. What am I doing wrong?
Bump. Anyone knowledgeable on this? I'm pretty sure it could apply to just about any phone and I know plenty of other people do the same thing I do with these battery pairs on Amazon so this would be useful for progeny.
Do you leave them in the charger until you need them? Usually, the longer a battery charges while it's fully charged, the more the total charge will diminish. So, the longer you keep it charging more than it needs to, the faster the battery dies out. Also, when you get a new rechargeable battery, or even a new phone or tablet with a rechargeable battery in it, the first thing you should do is use it till it's drained. Don't immediately plug it in to the charger. Keep in mind, though, that no matter what you do your batteries will diminish. Cheaply made batteries will diminish faster than higher quality ones, so that may attribute to how fast your batteries are dieing.
I could be wrong, though.
I actually do keep it on the charger long after it's charged. And I have heard that before - but don't most chargers have a built in feature that cuts off the current once the battery is fully charged?
Anyway I'm not sure that's the sole reason for the batteries being so ****ty. Although idk, I also could be wrong, lol.
I purchased my Nexus 5 in November 2013. After 6-8 months the battery had noticeably degraded, and it became unusable after 13 months (1 month out of warranty). A 100% charge would last less than 5 minutes, and the battery itself had swelled to 1.5x the standard thickness. I replaced it with an OEM battery purchased through an official LG parts supplier and things are working well.
I would like to know why my battery failed, so I can prevent it from occuring again. I have speculated on what might have caused problems, but I have no proof. Some ideas are:
1) Very heavy usage. I would use 50% of the battery, sometimes 200%, each day since Nov 2013.
2) Frequent charging. I charged at least once per day, often more.
3) Wireless charging. I used a Qi wireless charger the majority of charges.
4) Interrupting the charge. When charging wirelessly I would pick up the phone then put it back, several times per day.
5) Excessive phone heat. When gaming the phone would get very warm, though never too hot to hold. I would also game while charging, which increased heat.
6) Using a case. I have used a Diztronic TPU case, which lowered the charging rate and increases heat when using a wireless charger. It likely also increases heat while gaming.
7) Water/humidity. I pocket carried the phone through Spring/Summer in near 100% humidity and 35 degree Celcius temperatures. It frequently had sweat marks across the screen, so likely had some sweat get into the back of the phone.
To knowledgable people, would any of these stick out as culprits to cause battery swelling issues? Thank you for your time.
jlomein said:
I purchased my Nexus 5 in November 2013. After 6-8 months the battery had noticeably degraded, and it became unusable after 13 months (1 month out of warranty). A 100% charge would last less than 5 minutes, and the battery itself had swelled to 1.5x the standard thickness. I replaced it with an OEM battery purchased through an official LG parts supplier and things are working well.
I would like to know why my battery failed, so I can prevent it from occuring again. I have speculated on what might have caused problems, but I have no proof. Some ideas are:
1) Very heavy usage. I would use 50% of the battery, sometimes 200%, each day since Nov 2013.
2) Frequent charging. I charged at least once per day, often more.
3) Wireless charging. I used a Qi wireless charger the majority of charges.
4) Interrupting the charge. When charging wirelessly I would pick up the phone then put it back, several times per day.
5) Excessive phone heat. When gaming the phone would get very warm, though never too hot to hold. I would also game while charging, which increased heat.
6) Using a case. I have used a Diztronic TPU case, which lowered the charging rate and increases heat when using a wireless charger. It likely also increases heat while gaming.
7) Water/humidity. I pocket carried the phone through Spring/Summer in near 100% humidity and 35 degree Celcius temperatures. It frequently had sweat marks across the screen, so likely had some sweat get into the back of the phone.
To knowledgable people, would any of these stick out as culprits to cause battery swelling issues? Thank you for your time.
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None of what you mentioned would make too much difference, all batteries will eventually die after a while (a number of Nexus 5 users have replaced it after a year).
1. I've had my Nexus 5 since March last year and used it quite a lot.
2. Frequent charging shouldn't be too much of an issue, although the Nexus 5's battery is rated for an average of 400 charges. This of course is an estimation, and all batteries are bound to fail eventually.
3. I've charged overnight via a Qi charger and also occasionally left it on the charger during the day, occasionally leaving it on there for 12–18 hours.
4. Interrupting the charge has negligible effect since everybody with a Qi charger pretty much does it, me included.
5. Your device can handle heat, it has a hardcoded thermal shutdown temperature on both the CPU (105C) and battery (around 40–60C, forgot exact value.
6. A case shouldn't really matter.
7. 35C? It hit 42C here a couple times in the past year, and it made my Nexus 5 hit thermal throttle on idle (until I disabled it)
Previously having owned the zerolemon case for the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 I knew what to expect from them and they didn't disappoint. The Pixel XL is a great phone but the battery life leaves something to be desired. Zerolemon to the rescue!
The case comes in the standard packaging with the bag and the box with the case inside. Installation is super simple, just slide the phone on to the USB C port on the battery/case and slide the rubber surround over it. The battery has an on off switch on the back and 4 LEDs for battery status.
I charged the battery for 12 hours as per the instructions and put the phone in. With a heavy load on the phone, lots of screen usage and the VPN running I got a little over 24 hours on the battery.
There are two ways to use the battery case you can either leave it on and trickle charge the phone constantly like I did or drain the phone down and turn it on each time to charge it.
The pixel XL has bottom firing speakers and zerolemon addressed this by diverting the sound through the front of the case. You don't lose any volume at all. The case charges via USB C and the port is linked straight through so you can charge/sync as needed.
Zerolemon is known for quality products and great value and this is no exception of you're looking for a way to extend your phones life when you're away from a charger this is it.
Case will not turn off until battery drains.
Any ideas on why this is happening or how to shut the case off? Even when I pull the phone out of the battery case it is still charging.
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Any ideas on why this is happening or how to shut the case off? Even when I pull the phone out of the battery case it is still charging.
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I have not had that issue. the phone doesn't sleep while in the case, even though it's off, but as soon as I take it out things return to normal