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I'm new to the OP6 coming over from the 5t. I was on the beta 12version OS on the5t which worked perfect for me.
5.1.9 is the only version I have had with the 6
But I have noticed:
- WiFi is hard to connect at times..have to reboot phone from time to time
- scrolling is slow and uneasy not smooth at all
- cameras auto focus is very slow at times, also I have to hit the shutter button several times before it will take photo
- from time to time won't recognize my fingerprint...
I don't know if it's just me or others are having the same issues with 5.1.9?? I hope they fix these issues with the next update...
No issues here. Try reflash the ROM through update settings
No issues so far
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Some of your observations I've read before. Try the 5.1.9 thread.
Except the camera sucks, from focus to take good pictures all the rest i also don`t have problems...
I don't really use the camera on any device I've had, so can't really comment on those issues.
However, over all being new to OnePlus myself first one I got the 6 I have to say the software on this device sucks. It's buggy, it's outdated and overall a complete and utter mess.
Wifi issue that I see and many others complaining about is that it constantly wants to stick with a weaker signal rather than handing off to the stronger one. I know this is an easy fix in an update by raising the threshold as on one of my Asus devices we had this problem and people were complaining and they rolled out a fix in a couple of weeks.
I also along with many others have networking issues where the device does not want to connect after being on Wifi or in an area where there is no signal at all. Upon exiting such area the phone just refuses to reconnect to the network and you have to use the airplane mode on/off in order to get it to reconnect. A few times, I've had to remove the sims completely to reconnect.
A few times, the phone has just frozen for a few seconds, no matter what you hit it doesn't do anything and in a few occasions the phone goes completely black like it is off and then comes back.
Sometimes you have to enter the password in a few times for it to accept, but I've also had the same issue with the fingerprint sensor.
Their dialer is complete and utter rubbish. Call drops, call waiting disconnects all callers, good luck with conference calling, they've disabled call recording. And because of the convoluted way they've done their settings 3rd party apps can't operate fully because they can't access the settings and return error messages.
IMO this phone is all hype with no substance behind it. If they don't fix their issues and quick this company will go the way of others, burning hot and heavy in the beginning with people singing praises how great it is and a year from now won't be a blip on anyone's radar.
Mate just reflash or return it. No one else has these issues. So either you are exaggerating or your ROM/device is faulty.
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Mate just reflash or return it. No one else has these issues. So either you are exaggerating or your ROM/device is faulty.
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How can you even say that? Their own forum is filled with complaints with networking issues, wifi issues, dropped calls, fingerprint and password not working. OnePlus even acknowledged the networking issues and said there was a fix in a past update. So you're saying that there is no issues even though OnePlus admitted there was?
Noone? Really, every single other person that has the OP6 doesn't have any issue at all? Clearly others do have the same issues, otherwise people wouldn't be complaining about them.
None of those problems.....so maybe something you install/done is affecting the phone.
Im a minimalist, so i did install basic things....everything works flawless....except the stupid camera...
Use the fastboot roms in here and reflash the entire phone. Something is definitely wrong with your device. Let's just hope it's a software issue.
Thanks for the input from all.... I think I might know the issue.... I'm rooted and I can't remember if I did a wipe dalvik/cache at the end... I'll reload it later today...
floridaman said:
I also along with many others have networking issues where the device does not want to connect after being on Wifi or in an area where there is no signal at all. Upon exiting such area the phone just refuses to reconnect to the network and you have to use the airplane mode on/off in order to get it to reconnect. A few times, I've had to remove the sims completely to reconnect.
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I have had this issue before but never really had it often enough to consider it an issue until it was explained like this. I thought it was just my network (metro pcs) so I never really gave it much thought. Usually, I reboot and thought that was the only way to get it working again. Now I will try airplane mode. Thanks for this info!
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How can you even say that? Their own forum is filled with complaints with networking issues, wifi issues, dropped calls, fingerprint and password not working. OnePlus even acknowledged the networking issues and said there was a fix in a past update. So you're saying that there is no issues even though OnePlus admitted there was?
Noone? Really, every single other person that has the OP6 doesn't have any issue at all? Clearly others do have the same issues, otherwise people wouldn't be complaining about them.
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I wouldn't use the one plus forum as a reference. The vast majority of issues are from Indian members and most issues aren't issues at all. They tend to have VERY high battery expectations, refuse to keep their apps updated, and seem to lack the general knowledge of how to search for solutions before starting redundant threads.
That's not a knock on the Indian population as a whole. Just what I've noticed over the last couple months there.
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I wouldn't use the one plus forum as a reference. The vast majority of issues are from Indian members and most issues aren't issues at all. They tend to have VERY high battery expectations, refuse to keep their apps updated, and seem to lack the general knowledge of how to search for solutions before starting redundant threads.
That's not a knock on the Indian population as a whole. Just what I've noticed over the last couple months there.
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I'm well aware of what their forum is like, this isn't my first rodeo. I'm educated enough to realize that a lot of the complaints on that board are coming from a certain segment and 70% of it is utter and complete nonsense. But if you're going to throw out the baby with the bath water then you miss some real and crucial things. And just because a board is littered with ridiculous questions and a bunch of fanboys doesn't mean there aren't some problems and "no one" has issues. In particular when OnePlus already has admitted to some issues. One should also not assume anyone with a problem doesn't know how to update their device, or has tons of apps installed, and overall doesn't know how to use a device. You know what they say about assumptions.
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How can you even say that? Their own forum is filled with complaints with networking issues, wifi issues, dropped calls, fingerprint and password not working. OnePlus even acknowledged the networking issues and said there was a fix in a past update. So you're saying that there is no issues even though OnePlus admitted there was?
Noone? Really, every single other person that has the OP6 doesn't have any issue at all? Clearly others do have the same issues, otherwise people wouldn't be complaining about them.
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I think you shouldn't take the 'no one else' part too literally. I guess you - and other who apparently reported the same issues - are unfortunately enough part of a small group with a lot of issues with their device. But most of us aren't experiencing these problems and just have a great device with great software.
Hopefully you can work out what the solution is.
I missed this, both the 10in & 8.4in are part of the Android Enterprise program, delivering at least one major OS update (9) and "Delivery of Android security updates within 90 days of release from Google, for a minimum of three years"
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bl...ar-of-excellence-for-enterprise-mobility/amp/
https://www.android.com/enterprise/device-collection/#android_enterprise_recommended
I'm wondering if Huawei will release Android 9 (Pie) in 90 days. It would be really cool. I hope they will.
edit: It looks like, it is meant just for security patches
The commitment to get googles enterprise seal of approval is all of the following;
Patches for 3 years within 90 days of google release
At least 1 major OS version update
So at minimum, Android pie, and a patch every 3 months for 3 years. But possibly more...
Just give me 8.1 so I can use Netflix PiP. That's all I want.
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EU device stuck on July update, as soon as Google drop the October patch on my pixel, I'm starting a media campaign about how Huawei have already broken the Android Enterprise 90 day commitment. I'm returning both our devices for refund as they were sold under deception. I
Tick tock.....
The media lap up this sort of news.
I got .182 ist (C432) on my CMR-W09 20 minutes ago. IT has Security fix 01.08.2018.
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with CMR-AL09 still in 8.0.0.161(C432) / Security Patch: June 1, 2018,
3 months passed, almost 4 months
After a month, still the same situation.
No security patches, no 8.1, and I should stop because speaking about Android P on M5 is just an illusion.
Firmware with july, august and September security patches (on October) are "available" on HFF.
Shame yourself Huawei, shame yourself.
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You really need to be talking to Google to get Huawei booted off the Android Enterprise programme, it's giving the programme a bad name. At least Samsung had the decency not to enrol rather lie about updates ...
Funny how I thought Huawei will make sure all their flagship tablets will be updated regularly.
I am also stuck on .169 with july security update but via HFF I keep seeing some other regions are getting their updates and it makes me wonder if it is really Huawei's fault or just some regional bureaucracy stoppage.
I don't quite understand why updates with Android is so difficult. For Windows, updates will go to ANY computers, any brand or no brand. If anything, Windows 10 updates are forced down the users' throat wanted or not.
Why can't Google take more control of their own OS's updates? It is not as if PC makers don't mess with and install crap over Windows, yet the core OS will get updated without the need for any help from the PC makers.
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I don't quite understand why updates with Android is so difficult. For Windows, updates will go to ANY computers, any brand or no brand. If anything, Windows 10 updates are forced down the users' throat wanted or not.
Why can't Google take more control of their own OS's updates? It is not as if PC makers don't mess with and install crap over Windows, yet the core OS will get updated without the need for any help from the PC makers.
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Google is going into that direction now with Treble, but unless almost all OS versions are not treble compatible there is no force to do so. In addition as Google has no possibility to push out updates to end customer devices directly (beside Pixel / Nexus devices) but only by the channel of producer / provider they need their cooperation ... but unfortunately updates don't sell new devices, in contrary they stimulate people to use their devices longer. Do you see the dilemma?
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Google is going into that direction now with Treble, but unless almost all OS versions are not treble compatible there is no force to do so. In addition as Google has no possibility to push out updates to end customer devices directly (beside Pixel / Nexus devices) but only by the channel of producer / provider they need their cooperation ... but unfortunately updates don't sell new devices, in contrary they stimulate people to use their devices longer. Do you see the dilemma?
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I completely agree with this part "updates don't sell new devices". However it can also apply equally to computers. I cannot understand why Windows can retain control of their OS (too much in fact for Windows 10) but Google cannot. Is it not in Google's interest to have a stable and secure OS?
I think Project Treble (and Android One I think) is a way to retain control, but Google stills leaves it to manufacturers to implement it or not right?
alvinlwh said:
I don't quite understand why updates with Android is so difficult. For Windows, updates will go to ANY computers, any brand or no brand. If anything, Windows 10 updates are forced down the users' throat wanted or not.
Why can't Google take more control of their own OS's updates? It is not as if PC makers don't mess with and install crap over Windows, yet the core OS will get updated without the need for any help from the PC makers.
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windows is a massive mess when it comes to updates, Microsoft has to tip-toe around drivers, and even then they always mess up, and you end up waiting for the OEM to release a driver update package, which they never do. Then you hunt the drivers yourself, and find the OEM's who made the parts, are now out of business, or simply do not support the products anymore.
I have an Asus T100taf and I don't think autobrightness will ever work again on it, quite a shame really.
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windows is a massive mess when it comes to updates, Microsoft has to tip-toe around drivers, and even then they always mess up, and you end up waiting for the OEM to release a driver update package, which they never do. Then you hunt the drivers yourself, and find the OEM's who made the parts, are now out of business, or simply do not support the products anymore.
I have an Asus T100taf and I don't think autobrightness will ever work again on it, quite a shame really.
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At least my 8 years old Windows 7 laptop is still getting updates. Can't say the same for a 2 years old Android.
I noticed you are having problem with a Windows 10 tablet, that one is indeed a massive mess, no option to delay or turn down updates, Windows will force the updates through no matter you like it or not, often disrupting the use of equipment with massive slowdowns or reboot. Worse, sometimes bricking the computer. At least on Windows 7, I can delay accepting updates for a few weeks/months to give them a chance to pull dodgy updates.
Point I am trying to make here is on Windows (7 at least), I can tell the OS to look for an update from its makers and install it if it is available, the OEM of the machine have no input in this process. Where as on Androids, I have to depend on the maker of the OEM to update my OS which is not made by them. I know that OEMs often customise (meaning mess around) with the Android OS but so do many Windows computer OEMs yet the core Windows OS still get updated regularly.
Also, Asus is not quite out of business, but they are the worse for providing updated firmware. I had a ZF3 (Android) for a few months and every single update breaks the phone a little. They released a final update that breaks many functions for many users (check their own forum) and then say they will not be providing anymore updates. I now avoid anything with an Asus name on it.
alvinlwh said:
At least my 8 years old Windows 7 laptop is still getting updates. Can't say the same for a 2 years old Android.
I noticed you are having problem with a Windows 10 tablet, that one is indeed a massive mess, no option to delay or turn down updates, Windows will force the updates through no matter you like it or not, often disrupting the use of equipment with massive slowdowns or reboot. Worse, sometimes bricking the computer. At least on Windows 7, I can delay accepting updates for a few weeks/months to give them a chance to pull dodgy updates.
Point I am trying to make here is on Windows (7 at least), I can tell the OS to look for an update from its makers and install it if it is available, the OEM of the machine have no input in this process. Where as on Androids, I have to depend on the maker of the OEM to update my OS which is not made by them. I know that OEMs often customise (meaning mess around) with the Android OS but so do many Windows computer OEMs yet the core Windows OS still get updated regularly.
Also, Asus is not quite out of business, but they are the worse for providing updated firmware. I had a ZF3 (Android) for a few months and every single update breaks the phone a little. They released a final update that breaks many functions for many users (check their own forum) and then say they will not be providing anymore updates. I now avoid anything with an Asus name on it.
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I had a ZF3 also, that phone didn't really last that long, but I found it fine for the year I had it, accidentally took it swimming (RIP). I had a good experience with the updates, Zen UI was a bit heavy, but it did get Android N, shame about Oreo. But after that I have ditched them, there are better manafacturers, I was considering the Asus Zenfone 3 zoom as my next phone, but they sabotaged it with a snapdragon 625. I would have preferred something faster. Every phone they have has a flaw on it, which is a real shame. I would get an Asus 5z for example, but LCD err no, my OP5T has spoiled me with Amoled glory
Asus is still in business, but I mean on the individual device level, I can't find a driver for a "Capella Micro Brightness sensor xxxx" can't remember the numbers but I put it into Google and nothing, can't find any drivers for that, so bye bye autobrightness. That tablet also is kinda dead, I broke the screen on it, and apart from 2 that I replaced (and broke again, by opening the device too far!!) the replacements don't work, they have phantom touches or are very weak. The device was flawed from the get-go, it was mainly held together with the front glass, now I removed it, it is very wobbly and weak.
Android tablets, at least they aren't broken by updates so much, I had an Asus tablet, but an update came along, and bricked it!! I told Asus and they agreed about an RMA (within warranty period thank god), but I also managed to break the screen on that (god I'm a nightmare, except my phone has no scratches or scuffs ) but besides that tablet I don't think has any updates, it topped out at Android N also, despite having a relatively simple SOC and everything.
This one, the MediaPad M5 has been the best so far, I've had about 3 updates, bug fixes mainly, but also GPU Turbo, they did take a while pushing that to the EU, but at least it was still done!
At least I can root and do what I want with my devices now, unlike my Mediatek Asus tablet, and the Windows one, that is toast now anyway, slow atom cpu.
Funnily enough, the MediaPad M5 is the most powerful laptop I own, it zips through web pages where my Asus devices will be chugging along, and well my iPad 2 might load it tomorrow
Windows was good, until 10. I have a windows XP laptop, that is fully supported on 7, missing a GPU driver for Windows 10, but there is a fan made one! (never heard of this happening before) and it works, but I prefer windows 7 as it's more fitting for the device.
Michaelflat1 said:
I had a ZF3 also, that phone didn't really last that long, but I found it fine for the year I had it, accidentally took it swimming (RIP). I had a good experience with the updates, Zen UI was a bit heavy, but it did get Android N, shame about Oreo. But after that I have ditched them, there are better manafacturers, I was considering the Asus Zenfone 3 zoom as my next phone, but they sabotaged it with a snapdragon 625. I would have preferred something faster. Every phone they have has a flaw on it, which is a real shame. I would get an Asus 5z for example, but LCD err no, my OP5T has spoiled me with Amoled glory
Asus is still in business, but I mean on the individual device level, I can't find a driver for a "Capella Micro Brightness sensor xxxx" can't remember the numbers but I put it into Google and nothing, can't find any drivers for that, so bye bye autobrightness. That tablet also is kinda dead, I broke the screen on it, and apart from 2 that I replaced (and broke again, by opening the device too far!!) the replacements don't work, they have phantom touches or are very weak. The device was flawed from the get-go, it was mainly held together with the front glass, now I removed it, it is very wobbly and weak.
Android tablets, at least they aren't broken by updates so much, I had an Asus tablet, but an update came along, and bricked it!! I told Asus and they agreed about an RMA (within warranty period thank god), but I also managed to break the screen on that (god I'm a nightmare, except my phone has no scratches or scuffs ) but besides that tablet I don't think has any updates, it topped out at Android N also, despite having a relatively simple SOC and everything.
This one, the MediaPad M5 has been the best so far, I've had about 3 updates, bug fixes mainly, but also GPU Turbo, they did take a while pushing that to the EU, but at least it was still done!
At least I can root and do what I want with my devices now, unlike my Mediatek Asus tablet, and the Windows one, that is toast now anyway, slow atom cpu.
Funnily enough, the MediaPad M5 is the most powerful laptop I own, it zips through web pages where my Asus devices will be chugging along, and well my iPad 2 might load it tomorrow
Windows was good, until 10. I have a windows XP laptop, that is fully supported on 7, missing a GPU driver for Windows 10, but there is a fan made one! (never heard of this happening before) and it works, but I prefer windows 7 as it's more fitting for the device.
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Going off topic now but...
My Asus ZF3 is the ONLY phone (Android or not) that I had problem pairing the Bluetooth with my car. I am not the only one with the problem, people from US, TW, ES, BR, MY, etc all had reported the same problem. What Asus suggested is changing the car and some guy from US actually did that and still cannot pair his phone with his car. Instead of admitting that there is a fault with their messing around with the core firmware that broke the Bluetooth function, they insist it was someone else's fault. 2 or 3 updates later, the Bluetooth function was fixed BUT then they broke the camera focus (by then I had already dumped it). Based on their own forum, it seem that the update caused the OIS motor to burn out making it impossible move the lens to focus. For many owners, this point in time is already beyond 1 year of the original purchase date, making the phone out of warranty and costing them money to fix it, thanks to Asus's own update. Looking at their forum today, after the final update (Asus abandoned the phone now), the camera problem is still not fixed and there now are battery fast draining problem, WiFi problem, OTG problem, signal strength problem, missing VoLTE... Their support is useless, asking them something as technical as you "Capella Micro Brightness sensor xxxx" problem will get them all confused.
On to Windows, I hated Windows 10 so much that I actually use my 8 years old Windows 7 i3 laptop more often than my 3 years old Windows 10 i5 laptop. While the i3 is slower and less powerful, it is more predictable without the random crashes of Windows 10. Worse of all, Windows 10 likes to install updates and reboot without warning, causing serious inconvenience and could lead to a brick if it try to install an update on shutdown when the laptop is low on power.
...going back on topic now about the M5
I do agree with you that the M5 is pretty damn good in most aspect except the DPI and the thing seems to be confused about if it is a phone or a tablet, causing strange rendering of some apps. However (personally) I do find that Android devices do slow down to a point of almost unusability after around 18 months and I am very careful about installing the "final" update. I had 2 tablets (Toshiba AT300 and Nvida Shield K1) so far that are kind of rendered almost unusable after the "big final" update.
I do not root my devices anymore after a really bad experience where I bricked a brand new Motorola Atrix 4G thanks to a guide with incorrect instructions (I copied and pasted the commands so it was not a mistype by me) and I got laughed out of the forum (cannot remember if it is here or somewhere else) without any help. Can't afford to brick brand new devices all the time.
alvinlwh said:
I don't quite understand why updates with Android is so difficult. For Windows, updates will go to ANY computers, any brand or no brand. If anything, Windows 10 updates are forced down the users' throat wanted or not.
Why can't Google take more control of their own OS's updates? It is not as if PC makers don't mess with and install crap over Windows, yet the core OS will get updated without the need for any help from the PC makers.
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Its very simple. A mobile phone is not a PC. There is no IBM PC specification, no BIOS or common HAL. On a PC you need to install drivers and do all sorts of other maintenance. You have problems with abandoned PC hardware, which in a PC you can swap out with something else, you have driver incompatibility problems left right and centre, a fragile registry, DLL dependency hell, a joke of a security model, A PC slows down badly over time, due to its bloated servicing model, Android devices don't (unless the manufacturer is bullied into putting a version of OS it was never intended to run on it). PC is a upgradable long term device, mobiles are non upgradable disposable devices.
Its very clear you don't understand the technical difference between a PC and a mobile device. Come back when you do. Don't feel bad, the cretins in the tech press don't understand either, and it's their job to understand...
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Its very simple. A mobile phone is not a PC. There is no IBM PC specification, no BIOS or common HAL. On a PC you need to install drivers and do all sorts of other maintenance. You have problems with abandoned PC hardware, which in a PC you can swap out with something else, you have driver incompatibility problems left right and centre, a fragile registry, DLL dependency hell, a joke of a security model, A PC slows down badly over time, due to its bloated servicing model, Android devices don't (unless the manufacturer is bullied into putting a version of OS it was never intended to run on it). PC is a upgradable long term device, mobiles are non upgradable disposable devices.
Its very clear you don't understand the technical difference between a PC and a mobile device. Come back when you do. Don't feel bad, the cretins in the tech press don't understand either, and it's their job to understand...
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It is very similar to a PC, well a linux running PC. Yes there are a few limitations, but you can run alternate OSes on android devices, eg. remember the Ubuntu on your phone type thing, that didn't last long because driver support doesn't really exist for components in your phone.
It's a shame it isn't i suppose, but then again i made the decision to buy a tablet over a windows laptop. I can't really argue which one is better, since we could be here all day. Sometimes it's nice to have a mobile device, others it is a crushing limitation. Thankfully i got my bootloader unlock code before it was too late!
What a shame
Android 9 and no Netflix PIP . Can't believe that I choose wrongly with the M5 ... There's a lot of potential but lack of interest by developers ( Netflix to be specific) and Huawei itself.
UPDATE: Official Pie now rolling out on Korean variants (F800K/L/S)
Good news LG V20 owners, it looks like your handset will receive Android 9.0 Pie in the not too distant future after all. While the South Korean company pushed the roll-out of Pie to its successor from Q2 to Q3, there is promise of the V20 receiving its last OS update this quarter with LG reportedly testing a beta build internally.
The LG V20 has had a checkered history of OS updates. The first smartphone to ship with Android 7.0 Nougat has only received one major OS update, with it still being stuck on Android 8.0 Oreo. It took LG until October last year to roll-out Oreo to some V20 variants like the H990DS, with the company then announcing it planned on ending software support the device.
LG subseuently u-turned and promised to deliver Android 9.0 Pie in Q3 2019. The V35 and V40 ThinQ have since received Pie, with the roll-out for the V30 slipping from Q2 to Q3. Beta builds for the V30 and G6 have now appeared online, demonstrating that LG is actively testing Pie for these devices, with people being able to flash these early builds to their handsets if they are feeling brave.
My LG Phones reports that LG is doing the same with the V20, specifically for the South Korean model (F800L). The beta build, called LGF800LAT-V27b-IOT-KR-JUL-08-2019+0, is unavailable to download though, with My LG Phones claiming that it is "not fully optimized". Naturally, this comes as no surprise considering that it is a beta build.
Unfortunately, there is still no word on when LG plans to release a stable Android 9.0 Pie build for the V20 this quarter. While we cannot verify the claims of My LG Phones, the website is often accurate and one of the first to report on LG issuing software updates for its smartphones. Expect LG to stagger the roll-out of Android Pie 9.0 though, with South Korean devices likely receiving the OS update a few weeks or months sooner than other variants. Still, it is promising to hear that LG is actively testing Android 9.0 Pie for the V20, seemingly alongside the V30 and G6. Fingers crossed, V20 owners!
Source: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Android-9-0-Pie-is-on-the-horizon-for-the-LG-V20.427936.0.html
I'll believe it when i see it.. i'm still on stock 8.0.0... I have added a 4000Mah battery so i can last 2 days with everything on now but still on 8.0.0
drchip42 said:
I'll believe it when i see it.. i'm still on stock 8.0.0... I have added a 4000Mah battery so i can last 2 days with everything on now but still on 8.0.0
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Same...
But there was a leaked beta pie firmware that is currently for the Korean variant, and it's ongoing
So there's still a big chance to receive one
And if there isn't well at least we have LOS 16 as our option for pie
After having run my v20 stock for years I took the plunge and went lineage 16. The difference between stock and lineage is night and day. While it's great for people unable or unwilling to go the custom rom path, I don't intend to go back to the bloated mess that is "stock" on my H918
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After having run my v20 stock for years I took the plunge and went lineage 16. The difference between stock and lineage is night and day. While it's great for people unable or unwilling to go the custom rom path, I don't intend to go back to the bloated mess that is "stock" on my H918
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Lineage is so boring imo. no stock camera and I'm also not sure if the DAC is working properly.. Was on lineage two hours and immediately flashed back the stock Rom. But I have to admit that the LG is only my second device now. But this time I didn't flash a custom kernel and no root. Just stock.. It is so much better now. But S9+ is my daily driver now.
That's the beauty of Android we can have the same device and completely different experiences... Now if there was a miui Rom to play with I would be trying that out.
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Lineage is so boring imo. no stock camera and I'm also not sure if the DAC is working properly.. Was on lineage two hours and immediately flashed back the stock Rom. But I have to admit that the LG is only my second device now. But this time I didn't flash a custom kernel and no root. Just stock.. It is so much better now. But S9+ is my daily driver now.
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The DAC works on LOS as long as you flash Gamma kernel, although I've heard it's enabled in the stock kernel. I use Gamma + V4A and it's amazing.
My experience with Lineage... or rather Resurrection Remix has been less then stellar. I'm considering going back to stock and then upgrading to Oreo, if it's usable. I'm just worried of getting stuck there if the LG firmware turns out to suck (which wouldn't surprise me...).
I've been able to use several other phones a couple of months at a time, and they have all been much better experiences than I've had with LG, custom ROM or not.
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My experience with Lineage... or rather Resurrection Remix has been less then stellar. I'm considering going back to stock and then upgrading to Oreo, if it's usable. I'm just worried of getting stuck there if the LG firmware turns out to suck (which wouldn't surprise me...).
I've been able to use several other phones a couple of months at a time, and they have all been much better experiences than I've had with LG, custom ROM or not.
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Thanks for sharing your experience. I was considering moving to RR because of the lagginess and battery inefficiency of stock Oreo, but was wary of the bad second screen utilization and the lack of the LG cam. When you say your experience with RR was less than stellar, what all do you have in mind?
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Thanks for sharing your experience. I was considering moving to RR because of the lagginess and battery inefficiency of stock Oreo, but was wary of the bad second screen utilization and the lack of the LG cam. When you say your experience with RR was less than stellar, what all do you have in mind?
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Ok... so I was mostly on Android 8 based Resurrection Remix. It was laggy as hell, but... out of nowhere. Like it would be smooth one second and then completely collapse the other. So bad, that unlocking the screen became impossible. Or I could turn on the screen, but it wouldn't react to any input. Taking photos, especially with Gcam, was nearly impossible. It might save the photo, or not. It might take a photo if you press the button, or not. It might take it relatively immediately or it could take up to 10 seconds. Or well, not happen at all. Sometimes you could take a photo, then close the app completely, then take the next photo. Rinse repeat. The behavior was completely random and unreliable, with decent sized crashes along the way. Charging the phone via USB (and some chargers/cables) was impossible, because doing so would drain the battery more than not being plugged in. Sometimes the phone would turn into a space heater for no apparent reason. Second screen support wasn't really worth it either IMHO, because the implementation wasn't as polished as on the stock firmware (mind you I never got past 7).
I'm now on the latest RR (as Lineage just wouldn't boot from a fresh install), and it's... sort of better? The second screen is now just the regular screen, with the left corner being treated as a supersized notch. That's a great use of the space, though I wish on video players it would try to avoid the notch as much as possible. It won't... it's centered. But that's a Google thing. Oh yeah, and Waipu, which I use for TV, won't run properly. Some stations work, some stations (the ones I expect to put more security measures in place) don't.
It ran smooth for the first few hours. Now it has turned into a laggy nightmare again. Well, sometimes. Sometimes it's also smooth and performs as good as you can expect a Snapdragon 820 to perform (which isn't too bad!). But other times... Part of the lag seems to be the notification system, which is currently running amok as I have imported my old SMS and it is keen on showing me every single one of them (to be fair, my last phone, the HUAWEI P30 Pro, did the same after every reboot and it just would not stop). As soon as I put the phone on DND, it seems to perform significantly better.
This is the depressing part. It has decent hardware, I mean, I just got an AnTuTu score of (though the screen froze during a loading screen). This should still be a decent mid range phone. But it behaves like a giant heap of junk. Like a phone that was outdated 10 years ago.
Coming from the P30 Pro, this thing is nothing but frustrating. And while it wasn't so much at the start, it really is now.
I might imagine that the memory is damaged. As in some memory cells behave badly and take a while to read. When it does, the phone essentially locks up.
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Ok... so I was mostly on Android 8 based Resurrection Remix. It was laggy as hell, but... out of nowhere. Like it would be smooth one second and then completely collapse the other. So bad, that unlocking the screen became impossible. Or I could turn on the screen, but it wouldn't react to any input. Taking photos, especially with Gcam, was nearly impossible. It might save the photo, or not. It might take a photo if you press the button, or not. It might take it relatively immediately or it could take up to 10 seconds. Or well, not happen at all. Sometimes you could take a photo, then close the app completely, then take the next photo. Rinse repeat. The behavior was completely random and unreliable, with decent sized crashes along the way. Charging the phone via USB (and some chargers/cables) was impossible, because doing so would drain the battery more than not being plugged in. Sometimes the phone would turn into a space heater for no apparent reason. Second screen support wasn't really worth it either IMHO, because the implementation wasn't as polished as on the stock firmware (mind you I never got past 7).
I'm now on the latest RR (as Lineage just wouldn't boot from a fresh install), and it's... sort of better? The second screen is now just the regular screen, with the left corner being treated as a supersized notch. That's a great use of the space, though I wish on video players it would try to avoid the notch as much as possible. It won't... it's centered. But that's a Google thing. Oh yeah, and Waipu, which I use for TV, won't run properly. Some stations work, some stations (the ones I expect to put more security measures in place) don't.
It ran smooth for the first few hours. Now it has turned into a laggy nightmare again. Well, sometimes. Sometimes it's also smooth and performs as good as you can expect a Snapdragon 820 to perform (which isn't too bad!). But other times... Part of the lag seems to be the notification system, which is currently running amok as I have imported my old SMS and it is keen on showing me every single one of them (to be fair, my last phone, the HUAWEI P30 Pro, did the same after every reboot and it just would not stop). As soon as I put the phone on DND, it seems to perform significantly better.
This is the depressing part. It has decent hardware, I mean, I just got an AnTuTu score of (though the screen froze during a loading screen). This should still be a decent mid range phone. But it behaves like a giant heap of junk. Like a phone that was outdated 10 years ago.
Coming from the P30 Pro, this thing is nothing but frustrating. And while it wasn't so much at the start, it really is now.
I might imagine that the memory is damaged. As in some memory cells behave badly and take a while to read. When it does, the phone essentially locks up.
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Thanks for your detailed answer. An SD 820 certainly shouldn't perform THIS badly. Oneplus devices with the same work as smooth as butter, the difference is night and day. Whatever LG's software team's done to this, is a piece of ****. I'm amazed that they still have their jobs despite creating this hunk of junk. The software is like and obese cow plonked on a sports motorcycle causing it to huff and puff during simple activities.
The worst part is that LG didn't even have the decency to open up sources and make rooting/romming easy, so that others might pick up their slack.
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Thanks for your detailed answer. An SD 820 certainly shouldn't perform THIS badly. Oneplus devices with the same work as smooth as butter, the difference is night and day. Whatever LG's software team's done to this, is a piece of ****. I'm amazed that they still have their jobs despite creating this hunk of junk. The software is like and obese cow plonked on a sports motorcycle causing it to huff and puff during simple activities.
The worst part is that LG didn't even have the decency to open up sources and make rooting/romming easy, so that others might pick up their slack.
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Yes, but the thing is... the custom ROM isn't exactly better either. I think there hardware might be at fault here. Because while the stock ROM performs badly, so do custom ROMs (on the same phone). Unless the software that is at the root of it is used by both, the hardware is simply defective.
I'm getting 104117 in AnTuTu with the V20. Now that isn't spectacular - the P30 Pro did 240k, but it's not too shabby. It's on par with a brand new Samsung Galaxy A30, which I'm pretty sure doesn't break down as badly as the V20.
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Yes, but the thing is... the custom ROM isn't exactly better either. I think there hardware might be at fault here. Because while the stock ROM performs badly, so do custom ROMs (on the same phone). Unless the software that is at the root of it is used by both, the hardware is simply defective.
I'm getting 104117 in AnTuTu with the V20. Now that isn't spectacular - the P30 Pro did 240k, but it's not too shabby. It's on par with a brand new Samsung Galaxy A30, which I'm pretty sure doesn't break down as badly as the V20.
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Hmm.. when you say hardware, the same SD820 is used by others as well like the Oneplus 3, and that's a buttery smooth phone to use even after years of using it, so are there other components that seem to be ****ting the bed in this case?
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Hmm.. when you say hardware, the same SD820 is used by others as well like the Oneplus 3, and that's a buttery smooth phone to use even after years of using it, so are there other components that seem to be ****ting the bed in this case?
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Yeah. Other components. The internal memory perhaps, which may be worn down? I've had a fast SD card that had areas where it'd slow down considerably, as in 300 kB/s instead of 90 MB/s. Maybe they went with low quality memory chips and implemented them poorly, with no wear leveling. Otherwise perhaps some drivers, that custom ROMs also have to use? It's quite weird.
Oh btw., Bluetooth calls aren't working on Resurrection Remix (both based on Android 8 and 9). It's quite annoying...
LG V20 in manufactured very poor, as wvidence..
My LG V20 is produced back in 2016 and known as one of the early production of this device, I can say that this device tend to heat very fast and have a really poor heat management.. Even my full of hatred Ip6S can last longer than my V20.. this is really pathetic..
Before I've move on to V30 and finally got stuck with these Huawei, I intended to dissamble the device and I found out that the thermal paste has dried out.. Even worse, there is only a very little amount of thermal paste placed on top of SoC.. I knew by replacing the paste should fix my issue but my V20 ( not my iP6S ) is my main device atm and I don't have spare time to do this..
I don't what LG thinking back then but for sure, V20 is one of the device I think that have a potential since it have some of the feature that won't exist nowadays such as a useful second screen ( for me at least ), removable battery, a 3.5mm jack, IR blaster, expandable memory and more..
but yes, LG is stupid..
Enough with hardware, I'm going to rant about software..
I don't have any issue with LG UX, I'll love the LG UX actually compared to UX2, 3 and 4.. UX5 and above is fitted with my taste..
The home have a capabilities to make all icon unified if you choose rounded square, then everything will be a rounded square which this option doesn't exist on my Huawei P30 Pro ( I'm miss this option )..
the Camera is easy to navigate with swipe option and second screen.. everything comes in handy, also those manual control interface.. I'll loved it !
Not bothering to implement the portrait feature on this phone is okay since we have Gcam here.. Even V30 doesn't have that.. So, I keep my eyes closed on this one..
BUT.. too bad. Here's come another LG stupidity.. The first phone to be manufactured with Android Nougat is the last one to receive the Android Oreo.. and now Pie.. They even stated so many f**kin time to stop maintaining this device.. How could they do this? LG, why are you keep making stupid decision as you do for LG G4 with only South Korea receiving Nougat, LG G Flex 2 stuck on Lollipop, LG G5 that won't even have a chance to get pie eventhough it used the same SD820 and now this? A flagship device only received ONE major update? Seriously?
But now they mentioned Pie is on the way to LG V20, I'll still have my V20 around but I only put 50% faith on this Pie update since I've been played so many times by LG before..
Errgghhhh...
Anyway, have you see the new LG phone? The phone got SD821 on it.. like seriously? 821 on end of 2019? OMG..
Ok, so I've managed to get Lineage running (maybe I picked the wrong Gapps version). It works a lot better than ResurrectionRemix. For example Bluetooth works, with only tiny break-ups versus RR, which made me sound like I was an a WWII-era tank calling for support. The brightness slider works. The performance so far is smoother. etc. For some reasons the changes in RR seems to have broken the underlying Lineage. Fingers crossed it stays this way.
I'm still not going to buy another LG phone though... I think. Even if they fix the software. Mostly for the camera, because I think they've screwed up there.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/lg-v20-official-android-9-0-pie-update-rollout_id120083
Shouldn't be too long now...
https://lg-firmwares.com/es/lg-f800l-firmwares/#tab=firmwares
F800lV30e.....kdz
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Ok, so I've managed to get Lineage running (maybe I picked the wrong Gapps version). It works a lot better than ResurrectionRemix. For example Bluetooth works, with only tiny break-ups versus RR, which made me sound like I was an a WWII-era tank calling for support. The brightness slider works. The performance so far is smoother. etc. For some reasons the changes in RR seems to have broken the underlying Lineage. Fingers crossed it stays this way.
I'm still not going to buy another LG phone though... I think. Even if they fix the software. Mostly for the camera, because I think they've screwed up there.
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What model you have?
I just receive the f800k pie update via ota 1.9gb file. Update in progress
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https://www.mylgphones.com/lg-v20-f800k-firmware-android-pie.html
KDZ file here
We all know there's no custom rom support for iqoo 7. Should I still buy this phone for long term use?
Lala🇧🇩 said:
We all know there's no custom rom support for iqoo 7. Should I still buy this phone for long term use?
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Going by iQOO track record do not expect any development or custom roms in future. It would be good for 2 years then you'll have update to new phone. Do not expect any development. Like LOS, Even simple bootloader unlock and root will not be possible.
This is actually true for almost all Android phones these days. I want able to use my S9+ Street 2 years because it's battery decayed pretty fast. My wife's phone's displayed died. She had the S9 and we bought both phones together.
Updated and custom ROMs aren't that great these days because of plethora of phones and great devs of this forum also can't keep up with whether to fix issues with current build or to push next update build.
I used to own an HTC Wildfire S and its devs were pretty mind blowing. It used to have great ROMs which were much faster than stock. But these days stock ROMs are also good enough if you disable some bloatware and irrelevant system apps.
I have disabled some system apps using adb and am not facing any kind of adware notifications and the phone is smooth as ever.
I never even tried to root my S9+ also since I never found any good reason to lose Knox and DRM capabilities just for a little bit faster but still bugged ROM since I had the Exynos version.
With stock I prefer the peace of mind.
I've shared all my thoughts with you on this, now choice is yours.
Quite right. And will there be something significant better then screen 120hz, 12gb ufs 3.1, incredible fast charging, 120 watt 18 minutes fully charged, exceptional good battery management, at least 36hrs with full use of phones possibilities. Processor SD 888, good for the next 4 years I think.
With the increasing complexity of hardware, various chips (additional display chip in Iqoo 7), multiple cameras, etc. it will be difficult for custom rom devs to keep up with future of android. We will have to learn to live with Stock ROMs.
I suggest to keep full backup of each stock ROM before upgrade so that you have option to roll back incase you dont like performance/features of upgraded ROM.
Every android phone will have a life span of 2 years then it will slow down with software updates. My suggestion is to update your phone only if your device has some serious bugs and the update will fix it or ignore the annoying update pop-ups. Your device will last longer. This is from my personal experience
It's also important to protect the device from external fall damages I recommend using good quality protective gears from good brands or if you drop your phone and get it fixed it will be never good as a new one. I use a screen and body protector from {Mod edit: Please no commercial advertisement}.
The device's heating issue is a major concern. if a gaming phone gets toasted frequently it won't last longer
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Every android phone will have a life span of 2 years then it will slow down with software updates. My suggestion is to update your phone only if your device has some serious bugs and the update will fix it or ignore the annoying update pop-ups. Your device will last longer. This is from my personal experience
It's also important to protect the device from external fall damages I recommend using good quality protective gears from good brands or if you drop your phone and get it fixed it will be never good as a new one. I use a screen and body protector from {Mod edit: Please no commercial advertisement}.
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I agree but I change my device every 6 to 8 month so no worries and I get try new features comes with an update
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We all know there's no custom rom support for iqoo 7. Should I still buy this phone for long term use?
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Always have an external storage or Hardisk to save your files or if you loose your device you might miss a lot of data. I always back my data and keep my device free
Hi
I am on OOS 10.0.11.GM21BA with Magisk and TWRP and I want to update to Android 11 11.0.3.1.GM21BA.
However, I saw that there are mentions of stuck devices after updating and the need for patched boot.img and what not.
Until now I used following method to update:
Disable Magisk Modules
Download newest TWRP to SD
Download Full OTA from OP servers to SD
Flash OTA via local update in system settings
Flash A/B retention script with Magisk
Install Magisk to inactive slot
Reboot
Is this method still a valid way of updating? Do I need some extra steps for the update to Android 11?
I would wait... major reported issues even on Pixel phones.
If your current OS is fast, stable and fulfilling it's mission, let it be.
You have nothing to gain.
Running on Android 11 the OnePlus ranks second to Samsung in having severe aggressive background app killing issues. The full implementation of scoped storage in R will devour cpu cycles like a kid eats candy.
The endless popups asking permission to do everything will give you a new pastime.
I can likely coexist with Q... but R is for reject.
Thanks for the informations @blackhawk !
I was actually hoping that I had waited long enough by now for the initial issues to be gone. I actually want to update because of security patches in the first place, which we can't get on Q anymore, at least with stock OOS.
Also, I have multiple friends that updated (just stock phones) and didn't have any major problems, in regards to background killing of apps too, which I would definitely go crazy over if I had to experience that again.
Do you have any further insight to the update process posted?
Nightmare[ITA] said:
Thanks for the informations @blackhawk !
I was actually hoping that I had waited long enough by now for the initial issues to be gone. I actually want to update because of security patches in the first place, which we can't get on Q anymore, at least with stock OOS.
Also, I have multiple friends that updated (just stock phones) and didn't have any major problems, in regards to background killing of apps too, which I would definitely go crazy over if I had to experience that again.
Do you have any further insight to the update process posted?
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Can't help you on the update process.
I don't think R will ever be fixed. So much so that I bought another N10+ because both Google Android and Samsung have been dropping the ball so badly I'm stepping back for 2-3 years.
The fact that the N10+ is still a good viable choice today shows how poorly Samsung has done particularly in 2021.
I wouldn't even think twice about not getting security updates. Unless you do something stupid*, malware simply isn't an issue on Android 9 and up. Q has all of the worst vulnerabilities patched anyway. Don't buy into the Gookill security hype.
Been running unpatched Pie N10+ for close to 2 years with over a year on the current load. No malware forced reloads ever, and no malware in over a year. Redundantly backup all critical data and be ready to reload if needed. Really a reload be less trouble than trying to implement R.
Watch what you download, keep email in the cloud, watch over the download folder for anomalies and you'll be fine.
*no saving dumb bunnies...
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Can't help you on the update process.
I don't think R will ever be fixed. So much so that I bought another N10+ because both Google Android and Samsung have been dropping the ball so badly I'm stepping back for 2-3 years.
The fact that the N10+ is still a good viable choice today shows how poorly Samsung has done particularly in 2021.
I wouldn't even think twice about not getting security updates. Unless you do something stupid*, malware simply isn't an issue on Android 9 and up. Q has all of the worst vulnerabilities patched anyway. Don't buy into the Gookill security hype.
Been running unpatched Pie N10+ for close to 2 years with over a year on the current load. No malware forced reloads ever, and no malware in over a year. Redundantly backup all critical data and be ready to reload if needed. Really a reload be less trouble than trying to implement R.
Watch what you download, keep email in the cloud, watch over the download folder for anomalies and you'll be fine.
*no saving dumb bunnies...
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Sorry for the delayed response, it was actually not because I updated haha.
Well I can't really say much about R, since i haven't had personal day to day experience, and that's where the little things play a key role which can ruin your experience.
When it comes to the security part, I must say we have a different view on that topic. Unfortunately, you don't always have to be the reason for getting pwned, as there are vulnerability that are out of your ability to do something against it unless the system itself gets patched. The amount of those grows considerable faster once it's not updated anymore as the researchers know that there won't be any patch comming against it. Many of the vulnerability get searched on those system on purpose, especially if a big part of the users are still on that OS version. It becomes more lucrative for them then searching vulnerabilities on R and seeing it getting patched 4 weeks later.
Take RackTooth (which we currently don't know how it really works and how it can be fixed) for example, you are basically screwed once it gets out in the wild, if your device it not supported by the manufacturer anymore. That's also a reason why customs ROM are still so important and the manufacturer giving us the ability to unlock out bootloaders so we can continue to safely use our devices once they don't want to support it anymore.
I will probably be switching to Samsung too after my current device as I don't like where OnePlus is headed, especially with the Oppo codebase merge and them giving up on devices so fast.
It's been 2 years and they still haven't fixed the f*cking call on speaker mic problem, nor the audio quality when making a call with Galaxy Buds+! It is really ridiculous. Kinda regret making 10 people in my surroundings get OnePlus phones....
It feels like Samsung is the only real option left, which is sad to see.
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Sorry for the delayed response, it was actually not because I updated haha.
Well I can't really say much about R, since i haven't had personal day to day experience, and that's where the little things play a key role which can ruin your experience.
When it comes to the security part, I must say we have a different view on that topic. Unfortunately, you don't always have to be the reason for getting pwned, as there are vulnerability that are out of your ability to do something against it unless the system itself gets patched. The amount of those grows considerable faster once it's not updated anymore as the researchers know that there won't be any patch comming against it. Many of the vulnerability get searched on those system on purpose, especially if a big part of the users are still on that OS version. It becomes more lucrative for them then searching vulnerabilities on R and seeing it getting patched 4 weeks later.
Take RackTooth (which we currently don't know how it really works and how it can be fixed) for example, you are basically screwed once it gets out in the wild, if your device it not supported by the manufacturer anymore. That's also a reason why customs ROM are still so important and the manufacturer giving us the ability to unlock out bootloaders so we can continue to safely use our devices once they don't want to support it anymore.
I will probably be switching to Samsung too after my current device as I don't like where OnePlus is headed, especially with the Oppo codebase merge and them giving up on devices so fast.
It's been 2 years and they still haven't fixed the f*cking call on speaker mic problem, nor the audio quality when making a call with Galaxy Buds+! It is really ridiculous. Kinda regret making 10 people in my surroundings get OnePlus phones....
It feels like Samsung is the only real option left, which is sad to see.
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There are security vulnerabilities, simply be aware of them and do what you to mitigate them.
After over a year of zero updates though I know the actual threat level is low. Updates are far more likely to cripple the phone than malware.
Most victims pawn themselves, one way or another. The other common inept screw up of those infected is failure to promptly address abnormal behaviors.
Malware needs to be resolved immediately and the phone shutdown until it is. Trojan preloaders count on a person's lack of wherewithal and failure to act promptly. If I got nailed now, at the worst I be reloaded and 99% fully operational in about 2 hours. 6 if I lost the SD card data.
So what? My data, security, everything is redundant, replaceable, resetable.
Right now unless you go with a older Samsung still running on 10 or 9, there aren't many good options. 2022 is looking bleak as well. This is one reason why I got another 10+. In my opinion it's the zenith of Samsung Note flagships and of Android OS. I'm a pragmatist, I go with what works best. The hype rolls right off like water from a duck.
We are in living a pond of hyperbole
blackhawk said:
There are security vulnerabilities, simply be aware of them and do what you to mitigate them.
After over a year of zero updates though I know the actual threat level is low. Updates are far more likely to cripple the phone than malware.
Most victims pawn themselves, one way or another. The other common inept screw up of those infected is failure to promptly address abnormal behaviors.
Malware needs to be resolved immediately and the phone shutdown until it is. Trojan preloaders count on a person's lack of wherewithal and failure to act promptly. If I got nailed now, at the worst I be reloaded and 99% fully operational in about 2 hours. 6 if I lost the SD card data.
So what? My data, security, everything is redundant, replaceable, resetable.
Right now unless you go with a older Samsung still running on 10 or 9, there aren't many good options. 2022 is looking bleak as well. This is one reason why I got another 10+. In my opinion it's the zenith of Samsung Note flagships and of Android OS. I'm a pragmatist, I go with what works best. The hype rolls right off like water from a duck.
We are in living a pond of hyperbole
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The Pixel 6 / Pro is looking better every day. For once they didn't use specs from 2 years prior.
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The Pixel 6 / Pro is looking better every day. For once they didn't use specs from 2 years prior.
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No SD card slot which makes it useless to me.
It also lacks the intense customization stock Samsung's have by way of the Galaxy store.
Samsung's also have builtin workarounds for the lame swipe gesture navigation; Samsung's can easily be set to have screen navigation buttons.
Word of caution, the Samsung interface on Android 11 variant is reportedly a mess.
The spen is a feature I appreciate more the longer I own* the 10+. It's remote bt control and Smart Capture are extremely useful to me. Otherwise when not needed it neatly nests out of sight.
For power users the Note series is still the weapon of choice in many ways.
*lol, I'm still exploring the features in my original 10+ Pie variant. There are many. I play around with it. Even more on the Q variant and new UI features too, I haven't even played with those yet