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is general gsi roms good enough

is general gsi roms good enough for our device or is it better to wait for specific rom that is well modified for our device??? In other words is there any general gsi rom that is good enough and has major hardware parts working (camera, wifi, hotspot, brightness, bluetooth... Etc) ???
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Has anyone tried Havoc OS ROM ?

Generally speaking they're good enough to use assuming you can get them installed on you phone. I was using Phh's unofficial Ressurection Remix Rom for a while, and the biggest issue I had was the fingerprint sensor acting as a mouse button when the screen was on. Otherwise everything was very smooth and worked like what I expected them too. Battery life might have been a bit worse than it was on MIUI. I've had similar results on all of Phh's ROMs, although I haven't really tried images from too many other developers.
Installing them can be a struggle. It seems like half of the time I try to flash one I need to wipe everything on the phone to get it to work, but other times I can flash them with no issues. That's not specific to GSI images though. I've probably wiped my phone (system and storage contents) half a dozen times because I accidentally soft bricked my phone trying to flash something. That's probably more user error more than anything else.
I have also never been able to get gapps to flash on a GSI ROM. I've always had to use ones with them built in.
I ended up going back to MIUI because the GCam mod wasn't working properly, and a large reason for buying the phone was for the camera. I'll probably go back to Treble images once the major ROMs start releasing Pie variants, assuming we don't get some native ROMs first.

Anyone else get a trebble rom to work yet?

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Anyone else get a trebble rom to work yet?
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I flashed a lot of them. Most have bugs as you can imagine e but that's not the rom's or devs fault.
I had installed
Official Resurrection ReMix
Phh treble AOSP
Pixel Experience version 8.1 and 9
Polaris Pixel experience
Google extended
All with similar bugs/features. The 8.1 versions work pretty well, the pie versions have all the same bugs. But they are daily driver material in my opinion if you can do without some functions. Some of them have enough no working camera, others have trouble with NFC and bluetooth.
Others have distorted sounds (which can be easily fixed).
Just browse the treble development thread and find out what fits best for you.
I'm using pixel experience official 8.1 and 9 unofficial (on two separate MiMix2S) and so far it works for me.
I think the best by now is the official 8.1 PE rom. Most of the things I'm using do work really well. Now I'm eagerly waiting for the Polaris Pixel Experience Pie rom...hope it will arrive soon.
I think we own a not very popular device so devs are rare but there are some of them doing a great job and working on those issues. Maybe some could donate some bucks like I did to keep them motivated and show some appreciation for their hard work.

I've had the best experience with the Benzo 9.0 ROM.

How is the camera on GSI roms? One of the reasons I updated from the mix 2 to the mix 2s was for the camera.
Is it comparable to MIUI?, or total ****?

I am using the AOSP 9.0 rom by @phhusson: https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/releases
Apart from the camera, I'm not aware of any known issues. Bluetooth, NFC, Sound and Calling issues have all been resolved (thank you very much @phhusson). I guess there are other issues I did not hit yet
The camera app I use is from here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xi...ed-p-mix2s-t3838406/post77529938#post77529938
Its possible to take good pictures (without color issues) but some feature like HDR, portrait don't work.
As a base for this rom, I use the most current global beta from here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-mi-mix-2s/how-to/miui-based-android-9-pie-t3826402

Firipu said:
How is the camera on GSI roms? One of the reasons I updated from the mix 2 to the mix 2s was for the camera.
Is it comparable to MIUI?, or total ****?
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It's definitely a step down.

Guys check this out!
http://en.miui.com/thread-4114962-1-1.html
I think I should try it!
Any1 tried it? Please confirm if so

jouid33 said:
Guys check this out!
http://en.miui.com/thread-4114962-1-1.html
I think I should try it!
Any1 tried it? Please confirm if so
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So it's basically a link to a ROM we already know...or is there any device specific features included?
If it's the aosp ROM by phhusson it's stock Android and works smooth but lacks some features IMHO. Nothing fancy but a great leap forward in treble development. Great guy developing good and stable roms.

jouid33 said:
is general gsi roms good enough for our device or is it better to wait for specific rom that is well modified for our device??? In other words is there any general gsi rom that is good enough and has major hardware parts working (camera, wifi, hotspot, brightness, bluetooth... Etc) ???
Thanks
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Install this and be a happy little camper:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xi...pie-testing-pixel-experience-polaris-t3855036
Using it as my daily driver now. Almost all bugs sorted out that bothered me with the gsi images.

kleinholzinferno said:
Install this and be a happy little camper:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xi...pie-testing-pixel-experience-polaris-t3855036
Using it as my daily driver now. Almost all bugs sorted out that bothered me with the gsi images.
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Thanks for sharing ill sure try it out

guys check this out!
https://download.mokeedev.com/?device=polaris

jouid33 said:
guys check this out!
https://download.mokeedev.com/?device=polaris
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Please anyone willing to try it give us feedback of how stable is it and what is not working

jouid33 said:
Please anyone willing to try it give us feedback of how stable is it and what is not working
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Why don't you try it for yourself and report how it's working? I'm interested too, maybe this has some features I could use.

kleinholzinferno said:
Why don't you try it for yourself and report how it's working? I'm interested too, maybe this has some features I could use.
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Im seeing that they are updating it daily so i said ill wait 1 week and then try it.

Recommended custom ROM?

I'm looking for a one with large customizability.

Havoc OS

Havoc is probably the one you want to flash if you're after options. It has tons of features. Keep in mind it's still in beta stage, therefore there are some bugs here and there.
AOSiP is also a good choice in my opnion. I didn't flash it on my OnePlus 7 Pro but it's a well-known ROM with a decent amount of customization. I used it on my Nexus 6P and it was great.

GardenData61371 said:
I'm looking for a one with large customizability.
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AOSiP. its more stable that Havoc IMO, plus with AOSiP you don't need to wipe internal storage when flashing. But not everything is working perfectly on any custom rom compared to OOS.

Yeah, agree with Havoc and AOSiP.
You MIGHT want to consider looking at WETAMod as an alternative; this Magisk module, used atop OOS, covered most of the customizable things I wanted like network traffic, battery, clock, status and navbar customization... And it has the benefit of being atop rock-stable stock.

I'm currently on stock OOS with Renovate ROM. It's been great but I'm leaning toward trying Havoc because of all the options and also because of Substratum support. This may sound like a small complaint but I hate having to reboot twice for themes to apply properly. It's especially annoying when I forget a couple overlays from other themes (since I like to mix and match) and then have to reboot yet again for overlays to show up.
I have a bunch of Tasker profiles setup that have been adjusted to work with OOS, so I'd have to go back and readjust them to work on AOSP, which is why I'm holding back for now.
But having Havoc on my Pixel 2 XL before, it's definitely a feature-loaded ROM and the one to go for if looking for lots of customization!

harpin14789 said:
AOSiP. its more stable that Havoc IMO, plus with AOSiP you don't need to wipe internal storage when flashing. But not everything is working perfectly on any custom rom compared to OOS.
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I've never had to wipe internal to install havoc.

rickysidhu_ said:
I'm currently on stock OOS with Renovate ROM. It's been great but I'm leaning toward trying Havoc because of all the options and also because of Substratum support. This may sound like a small complaint but I hate having to reboot twice for themes to apply properly. It's especially annoying when I forget a couple overlays from other themes (since I like to mix and match) and then have to reboot yet again for overlays to show up.
I have a bunch of Tasker profiles setup that have been adjusted to work with OOS, so I'd have to go back and readjust them to work on AOSP, which is why I'm holding back for now.
But having Havoc on my Pixel 2 XL before, it's definitely a feature-loaded ROM and the one to go for if looking for lots of customization!
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+1 for Havoc! I tried it and it was a great experience! Though I need WiFi calling so I went back to OOS for now. But definitely will go back once it's out of beta or close to out of beta. Or at least has WiFi calling working.

explosivequack said:
I've never had to wipe internal to install havoc.
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I've had to. Idk, I tried it in its early stages.

Do these custom ROMs have 90Hz refresh rate?

ram4ufriends said:
Do these custom ROMs have 90Hz refresh rate?
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Havoc runs at 90Hz. I don't know about AOSiP but it should be the same.

ram4ufriends said:
Do these custom ROMs have 90Hz refresh rate?
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Havoc does.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79890652&postcount=655

Are There Any Roms Demonstrably Better Than Oxygen OS?

So, I've been rooting phones off and on since the HTC Dream and with each and every phone there's been roms that were just substantially better than the stock OS. Even most recently with my S9, Samsung butchered the OS to the extent that rooting and flashing phones was pretty much necessary. With Oxygen OS being in place, I've attempted Lineage and as much as I appreciated the few offerings it did have that Oxygen OS didn't offer, it wasn't a hard decision to switch back. The most common reason I switch is usually battery life but Oxygen is even good for that. What are the selling points of your rom that makes it seem the better option than Oxygen OS?

Isadorian said:
So, I've been rooting phones off and on since the HTC Dream and with each and every phone there's been roms that were just substantially better than the stock OS. Even most recently with my S9, Samsung butchered the OS to the extent that rooting and flashing phones was pretty much necessary. With Oxygen OS being in place, I've attempted Lineage and as much as I appreciated the few offerings it did have that Oxygen OS didn't offer, it wasn't a hard decision to switch back. The most common reason I switch is usually battery life but Oxygen is even good for that. What are the selling points of your rom that makes it seem the better option than Oxygen OS?
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As far as ROMS where everything is as good as OOS, no. Each custom ROM has certain things that aren't as good. For example most of them have sound that is lower and doesn't sound as good as OOS. OmniROM is the only ROM where they ported over the Atmos from OOS so the sound is the same but the Fingerprint reader doesn't work too well. Havoc has a bug where if you wanna use any gestures other than the stock ones there will be no back gesture as it gets totally disabled. Bliss has a bug where if you want to use Google Dialer and Contacts you'll get com.android.phone force closes. crDroid or anything based on Lineage has random freezes when watching videos. Most of these ROMS are one or two bug fixes away from being as good as OOS but they usually never get those bugs fixed, then a new version of Android comes out and the process starts all over again. If you want stability you're better off staying with OOS. The one or two ROMS that have appeared to be the most stable and didn't have any bugs were Paranoid Android and AOSPA but those are more vanilla and have little to no customization options. Once the standby battery drain on CarbonROM gets fixed that will be close, as the only thing left would be porting over the Atmos like Omni which seems to be the key to having the same level of sound as on OOS.

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As far as ROMS where everything is as good as OOS, no. Each custom ROM has certain things that aren't as good. For example most of them have sound that is lower and doesn't sound as good as OOS. OmniROM is the only ROM where they ported over the Atmos from OOS so the sound is the same but the Fingerprint reader doesn't work too well. Havoc has a bug where if you wanna use any gestures other than the stock ones there will be no back gesture as it gets totally disabled. Bliss has a bug where if you want to use Google Dialer and Contacts you'll get com.android.phone force closes. crDroid or anything based on Lineage has random freezes when watching videos. Most of these ROMS are one or two bug fixes away from being as good as OOS but they usually never get those bugs fixed, then a new version of Android comes out and the process starts all over again. If you want stability you're better off staying with OOS. The one or two ROMS that have appeared to be the most stable and didn't have any bugs were Paranoid Android and AOSPA but those are more vanilla and have little to no customization options. Once the standby battery drain on CarbonROM gets fixed that will be close, as the only thing left would be porting over the Atmos like Omni which seems to be the key to having the same level of sound as on OOS.
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I would like to clarify a few things.
We have Dolby Atmos module which can be used to increase the volume to oos level. Only downside s that the minimum volume is too high and hence you need to disable it. That is why custom roms don't implement the module.
As far as video freezing on cr or lineage based goes, well it is due to the latest security patch. The devs are looking into it but i think google will roll out a fix in may.
PA is extremely stable but offers lesser customization. So if you don't care for face-unlock, you can use treskmod based on PA. It is equally stable. But as face-unlock is closed source, there only a chance that face-unlock will ever come to treskmod. Otherwise everythink is like PA+pixel features.
Furthermore, evox is also a great rom which you can use. It doesn't have any of the above bugs. Another option is AOSiP
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Isadorian said:
So, I've been rooting phones off and on since the HTC Dream and with each and every phone there's been roms that were just substantially better than the stock OS. Even most recently with my S9, Samsung butchered the OS to the extent that rooting and flashing phones was pretty much necessary. With Oxygen OS being in place, I've attempted Lineage and as much as I appreciated the few offerings it did have that Oxygen OS didn't offer, it wasn't a hard decision to switch back. The most common reason I switch is usually battery life but Oxygen is even good for that. What are the selling points of your rom that makes it seem the better option than Oxygen OS?
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I am not a dev but use custom roms. The major advantage of a custom rom is customization over OOS. Also they at a faster rate and are closer to google implementation. The devs are also trying hard to make the rom perfect. If rooted, you can also use it to maximum. Also, there is a great chance that a feature you want will be implemented into the rom if you ask the dev.

Best custom ROM for Nord?

Hello,
I've decided to try out a custom ROM, not because I hate OxygenOS11 but just looking for a new experience. Once I got the phone I upgraded immediately to Android 11 but then I saw (and still see) a lot of people swearing by OxygenOS Android 10. Is it worth it to downgrade? What would I lose from V11?
And my main question is for those who tried them, which custom ROM is best for you and why?

qp2988 said:
Hello,
I've decided to try out a custom ROM, not because I hate OxygenOS11 but just looking for a new experience. Once I got the phone I upgraded immediately to Android 11 but then I saw (and still see) a lot of people swearing by OxygenOS Android 10. Is it worth it to downgrade? What would I lose from V11?
And my main question is for those who tried them, which custom ROM is best for you and why?
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I've used Oxygen OS for like 6 months after I got the Nord. Then I moved to Pixel Experience Plus based on A11. Worked fine, but it is discontinued now and they have started with A12. Used it for a while, everything worked fine, some minor bluetooth issues (not sure why), small bugs which you won't notice initially and they aren't a deal breaker.
Now I've switched to Proton KnockOff ROM, everything is fine. Minor UI jitters while locking sometimes. No major bugs faced so far. Also tried Project Radiant Unofficial Build (works fine though).
My final thoughts:
If you want clean pixel phone feel and no customization then Pixel Experience A12 is the way to go.
Plus, this ROM has OTA updates enabled.
If you want some customization and overall good performance and you don't mind unofficial builds then Project Radiant is worth trying.
If you want good performance and tons of customization then I'd say Proton will be a good idea.
NOTE: All the ROMs above are A12 based, I used them without root and the same Kernel it came shipped with.
Try different GCams because some of them lag and even crash many a times, I'd say go with BSG GCam or Urnyx05.

Thank you so much for your comprehensive response, much appreciated. I'll also post here my own findings after testing.

qp2988 said:
Thank you so much for your comprehensive response, much appreciated. I'll also post here my own findings after testing.
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Did u tried? I'm interested at your experience

Question Which is the best performance roms for OP 9?

I wonder what is the best room for performance in OP9 even optimization?

There is not a huge difference it's all personal preference.

Stock rom

Debloated OOS and some magisk mod tweaks.

I've tested custom rom my choice is Syberia

Stock or AOSPA imo

OOS

*Syberia is the most customisable and so far seems very snappy.
*Elytra OS The most aesthetic UI and fast kernel
These two ROMs are my choice for #bestROM.
*Pixel extended is the perfect Google experience
*CRDroid is also another one worth mentioning and the Dev is very friendly.
*Stag OS was the first 13 rom and is very stable also
*lineage OS is the most basic Custom rom and easy to flash.

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*Syberia is the most customisable and so far seems very snappy.
*Elytra OS The most aesthetic UI and fast kernel
These two ROMs are my choice for #bestROM.
*Pixel extended is the perfect Google experience
*CRDroid is also another one worth mentioning and the Dev is very friendly.
*Stag OS was the first 13 rom and is very stable also
*lineage OS is the most basic Custom rom and easy to flash.
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thank you!

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There is not a huge difference it's all personal preference.
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Exactly this. They're all pretty great.
For A12, any ROM with OOSCAM and a current security update is amazing.
For A13, ElytraOS is very impressive, and the maintainer is very active in what feedback is given. StagOS As well, but that maintainer is/was supporting A12 and 13 while ElytraOS came in on A13, so has just had more time to focus just on it. Both are great.
And now with Syberia (one of my favorite OP6 roms) on the scene, It seems you literally can't pick incorrectly, all are winners.
All my issues have always come from incorrect OOS update prior to flashing a ROM (see: PEBKAC), Android and/or its various changes itself effecting the Apps I use itself or an underlining bug that's from lineage (that all start with as a base, at least on every OP devices I've run with an android OS) that's out of the maintainers control.
For now, I'm back on Pixel Experience A12, but will return to A13 ROMs once it matures a little further and apps stabilize on it (preferably one with Google AI call screening enabled by default.)
I'd also take note of the few ROMs that offer vanilla builds that allow you to manage your own exposure to GApps, or none at all (ex: CRDroid)

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OOS
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OOS13 is so damn beautiful but hate the idea of trying to root, remove bloat/spyware, optimize it all while in Beta.
I need to try it at least once for a week or so.

nothing beats the stability of OOS.
i use some filming ang photography apps. i have tested these apps with most of the popular custom roms. the apps develop issues that do not happen in OOS.

jmadiaga said:
nothing beats the stability of OOS.
i use some filming ang photography apps. i have tested these apps with most of the popular custom roms. the apps develop issues that do not happen in OOS.
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im not saying you are wrong (im not you, im a nobody), but i would assume this is a place where the majority would probably disagree with that, lol.

applyscience said:
im not saying you are wrong (im not you, im a nobody), but i would assume this is a place where the majority would probably disagree with that, lol.
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ikr
but i can only spek fom my experience.