RAW photos - HTC U12+ Questions & Answers

Hi all,
How does your low-light RAW photos looks like? Mine are awful. Is this normal? I'm running the latest update.

Did you adjust the settings? Doesn't look like. Also be sure to keep flash disabled
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DeeZZ_NuuZZ said:
Did you adjust the settings? Doesn't look like. Also be sure to keep flash disabled
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No, I didn't adjust anything. All on auto. Flash was off.
In daylight the RAW photos aren't sharp either.
In normal mode the photos are awesome.
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phxzy said:
No, I didn't adjust anything. All on auto. Flash was off.
In daylight the RAW photos aren't sharp either.
In normal mode the photos are awesome.
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Well that will contribute to your problem, you are basically just taking a normal photo. Adjust the settings and experiment.

Also RAW photos are really easy to post process with the right software. I remember on the EVO LTE (one x) we had a RAW camera mod that I used some really cool software to post process and took really great photos with.
The RAW photos right out of the box we're very dark and not polished at all. I had to do all of that after the shot was taken.
As far as I know this is the point of RAW photos. The aperture gathers as much data as possible, and the photographer post processes that data as they see fit. Now I'm no pro at all and I could be off base, but that's my basic understanding of it.
If I get some time I'll go lurking around the old android forum I was a MOD on and see what I can find. I had an old friend and mentor on there that we collaborated on quite a bit of this stuff.

Have to adjust settings for night shots, lower/adjust iso,lower/adjust shutter speed,lower/adjust lighting
phxzy said:
Hi all,
How does your low-light RAW photos looks like? Mine are awful. Is this normal? I'm running the latest update.
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Granite1 said:
Also RAW photos are really easy to post process with the right software. I remember on the EVO LTE (one x) we had a RAW camera mod that I used some really cool software to post process and took really great photos with.
The RAW photos right out of the box we're very dark and not polished at all. I had to do all of that after the shot was taken.
As far as I know this is the point of RAW photos. The aperture gathers as much data as possible, and the photographer post processes that data as they see fit. Now I'm no pro at all and I could be off base, but that's my basic understanding of it.
If I get some time I'll go lurking around the old android forum I was a MOD on and see what I can find. I had an old friend and mentor on there that we collaborated on quite a bit of this stuff.
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I would appreciate some help with this if you get time. Thank you

LibertyMonger said:
I would appreciate some help with this if you get time. Thank you
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It wasn't the Exo LTE, it was the M8 with the Ultra Pixel Camera everyone was bashing.
Here's the thread I was referring to with the camera mod and post processing software.: https://androidforums.com/threads/raw-camera.854215/
You'll have to sift through the thread for goodies and info. Early Mon was a god in the early HTC days, and directly involved with getting us HTC DEV for unlocking our bootloaders. I haven't messed with any of this stuff in years, don't have enough time.

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Raw photos?

Hello, everyone. Bought some days ago HTC Diamond 2, right now I’m learning what can I do here. But reason why I’m writing is about internal camera. Here are few shots
http://vorobfiles.narod.ru/diff_forums/HTSD2/IMAG0016.jpg
http://vorobfiles.narod.ru/diff_forums/HTSD2/IMAG0029.jpg
http://vorobfiles.narod.ru/diff_forums/HTSD2/IMAG0066.jpg
http://vorobfiles.narod.ru/diff_forums/HTSD2/IMAG0068.jpg
http://vorobfiles.narod.ru/diff_forums/HTSD2/IMAG0073.jpg
http://vorobfiles.narod.ru/diff_forums/HTSD2/IMAG0074.jpg
Well, I think that’s pretty good for internal camera. But I’m sure that if I could get raw images, I could do more. So maybe there is some software that can get data from matrix without any phone enhancements and compression?
Same question concerning video recording feature. Any way to have 30fps with less compression?
Well, can't believe that no one interested in improvement of our cam.
vorob said:
Well, can't believe that no one interested in improvement of our cam.
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They were, here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=542923
Searched for 'RAW Camera'
Steeve24 said:
They were, here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=542923
Searched for 'RAW Camera'
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Oh, thx, now this thread can be delted

Panoramic photos?

Is there a way to take panoramic pictures on the htc hero?
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alexnaoumi said:
Is there a way to take panoramic pictures on the htc hero?
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thought about this a while back and found 1 camera app that does up to 3 shots but it looked horrible..cant remember the name.. if there is another one, i would like to know as im still interested in this
bk718 said:
thought about this a while back and found 1 camera app that does up to 3 shots but it looked horrible..cant remember the name.. if there is another one, i would like to know as im still interested in this
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I wonder if you are talking about Andropan...I downloaded it last night and tried it out today and did not like it at all :-(
dsMA said:
I wonder if you are talking about Andropan...I downloaded it last night and tried it out today and did not like it at all :-(
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Yeah, I also tried andropan once, man, it was UGLY.
Sent from my CDMA Hero, sucka!
yep.. thats the name of it.. i remember seeing some BS samsung or LG phone that came with this feature stock and it looked good, so its hard to believe that someone hasn't made a good working panoramic picture taking device...
Hi,
I'm the developper of Andropan.
Can you tell me what is UGLY in my application?
So I can make it better and better
Which device do you use?
Thanks for your help
The Epic's camera app has panorama built in. Im on the Evo myself but my family uses the hero. Glad I lurked on this thread, hopefully the Epic's camera app can be ported over sometime
try vignette. is the best camera.
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Hi,
I'm the developper of Andropan.
Can you tell me what is UGLY in my application?
So I can make it better and better
Which device do you use?
Thanks for your help
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1.Starting the application into a black screen is a bit - distasteful and not user friendly. Add the buttons that you have when pressing menu here.
2. The Plumb and Level indicators are a bit hard to get right, you should probably think about over laying a set of arrows to tell the user how they need to move to get level and plumb.
3. Typical camera uses the trackball to snap the picture instead of menu or a screen tap (at least on our heros) This would make it more fluid.
4. Not sure how you are storing/retrieving GEO information, but its wrong...at least for me it is
5. Just in my office - it seemed like one picture would have a different light saturation than another frame in the picture.
6. Your stitching of the pictures seems like it has a VERY low error tolerance, and you might try looking at other ways of matching and stitching pieces together so they are seamless.
7. After you have one panorama, instead of showing it at the beginning, have a gallery button, this way they can come into a screen of buttons and actually navigate with out having to use hard keys.
The above was meant to be constructive - please don't take offense, I think you have a good starting point with the app. If you need help with any of it let me know, I have a pretty decent Java/Android background, just no time to make my own apps.
151jcolon said:
try vignette. is the best camera.
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I tried the demo version but I didn't see An option for panoramic pictures.plus I wanna wait till that black screen thing is fixed.
I'm asking about this cam cuz its on my bros epic and I'm kinda jealous, lol
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big-baloo said:
Hi,
I'm the developper of Andropan.
Can you tell me what is UGLY in my application?
So I can make it better and better
Which device do you use?
Thanks for your help
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I didn't understand the difference between the two different options for creating a panoramic pic (I don't remember what they were called, manage and auto I think)
I also didn't understand the point of levels
Also it would be nice when the stitching occurs if the app looked for overlap and then removed the overlapping parts of the pic.
Another suggestion would be that when you take a pic that is part of the panoramic shot that you leave it on screen and then overlay the camera view over it so you can better line up and tell where the next shot should be.
151jcolon said:
try vignette. is the best camera.
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alexnaoumi said:
I tried the demo version but I didn't see An option for panoramic pictures.
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i feel like an idiot.. i've had vignette (paid version) on my phone for months now and never noticed the panorama cam... gonna try it out in the daylight tomorrow to see how well it works..

Anyone else disappointed by the camera?

Hello!
Been playing with the camera today. I'm not... Very impressed... Im coming from a iPhone 6. You can shoot in tiff(raw) on the iPhone. Shooting raw at base iso still seems to be heavily processed. When I import the image into snap seed is says it's a raw file. But using es file Explorer says it's a jpeg when looking at the picture in its folder.
As of right now. I'd rate the 8mp raw files from the iPhone superior to the ones of the s7. Far superior.
I've tried lightroom , Snapseed and photo director.
I haven't downloaded camera fv-5 yet. So that's another option I guess.
I just cannot seem to locate the raw files.... Or the camera is not producing raw files.
Regardless... Zooming in 50% is a muddy mess. This is shooting at base iso (50) and 1/90th a second shutter speed in raw.
Tell me what you think...
Yes I am shooting in pro mode with raw checked. It was shot sitting against something with zero movement.
Anyone?
Alright here is the difference between light room and snap seed raw files.
I am now using camera fv-5. Well worth it.
The better one is from light room.
combatmedic870 said:
Alright here is the difference between light room and snap seed raw files.
I am now using camera fv-5. Well worth it.
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so you sorted out the problem?
Yeah I guess so. I guess the oem camera app isn't shooting in raw or something.
I don't like.how if I want wide-screen pics i.have to resort to 9 megapixels. 12 is 4x3
Josh McGrath said:
I don't like.how if I want wide-screen pics i.have to resort to 9 megapixels. 12 is 4x3
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I agree.
Josh McGrath said:
I don't like.how if I want wide-screen pics i.have to resort to 9 megapixels. 12 is 4x3
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is that something that we'd be able to change once root comes out or not?
konoplya said:
is that something that we'd be able to change once root comes out or not?
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No it's the physical camera sensor orientation. I'll mention that most other phones are 4:3 like the S7, not 16:9 like previous Samsung phones
combatmedic870 said:
Alright here is the difference between light room and snap seed raw files.
I am now using camera fv-5. Well worth it.
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So, what's the best camera app, light room or camera fv-5?
Light room for processing. Camera fv-5 for taking raw pictures.
This is all strictly for raw pictures.
I own both the iPhone 6S and the Samsung Galaxy S7, NO comparison, the Samsung Galaxy S7 is the much better camera.
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vinnyjr said:
I own both the iPhone 6S and the Samsung Galaxy S7, NO comparison, the Samsung Galaxy S7 is the much better camera.
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In regards to s7 png files vs iPhone tiff files?
I'm not on here starting a vs thread. Something was just up with the raw files. I was not satisfied with the S7 raw files.
I still can't locate them from the stock app. Light room also never found them. Using Camera fv-5 light room finds the png raw files.
Indeed the raw files are very nice.
I dont really care about jpeg for casual shooting. They are fine. It's a cell phone. But if i go hiking and I forgot my Camera. I wanted to know what the camera on the S7 was capable of. I have now found what resulted in the most detail and sharpness. I was at first disappointed. Especially using the stock app. I am now satisfied with the results.
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Anyone?
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You know that even after using pro, you have to go into settings of camera and turn on save raw copy. Then it creates two files a jpeg and a dog file which you can the proccess just like fv-5 cam.
Dovigoldberger said:
You know that even after using pro, you have to go into settings of camera and turn on save raw copy. Then it creates two files a jpeg and a dog file which you can the proccess just like fv-5 cam.
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Yes. As I said in the end of the OP. I had everything checked. You have to recheck it every time you go into pro mode. It doesnt stick. I have yet to find the raw file from the Samsung Camera. Fv-5 produces 2 files. One raw and one jpeg.
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Yes. As I said in the end of the OP. I had everything checked. You have to recheck it every time you go into pro mode. It doesnt stick. I have yet to find the raw file from the Samsung Camera. Fv-5 produces 2 files. One raw and one jpeg.
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As you can see in the pics below once that option is turned on on my phone it always stays on, and then it makes a double on jpeg and one dng.
Mine does not stay on. Close the app in recents, reopen it and go to pro mode and tell me if it is still checked.. Mines not. So it would be good to know.
Also... Like I said I can't find the png. It's no biggie now. I'll just use fv-5.
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Mine does not stay on. Close the app in recents, reopen it and go to pro mode and tell me if it is still checked.. Mines not. So it would be good to know.
Also... Like I said I can't find the png. It's no biggie now. I'll just use fv-5.
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It stays even after reboots.
Dovigoldberger said:
It stays even after reboots.
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Well ****.... I dont know what up with my phone then. Might do a reset.

New Camera update is out 11/29

Version 0.1.088
Added portrait mode and more...
daviddem said:
Version 0.1.088
Added portrait mode and more...
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It causing the camera to run like crap now. Super sluggish .
italiangi said:
It causing the camera to run like crap now. Super sluggish .
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Actually, photos look much better now.
avd said:
Actually, photos look much better now.
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Try portrait mode and move around
italiangi said:
Try portrait mode and move around
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Sorry if defeats the purpose of portrait mode.
Cole can is portrait, roses are standard. All settings are default.
https://i.imgur.com/4Spionc.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/sMMrj4F.jpg
avd said:
Sorry if defeats the purpose of portrait mode.
Cole can is portrait, roses are standard. All settings are default.
https://i.imgur.com/4Spionc.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/sMMrj4F.jpg
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Can you take some more portrait mode picture samples? This are not very good compositions.
The Coke can does not have enough depth in the background and the wall is just plain. Try something else and line it up straight instead of top-down.
Thanks!
looks like **** still.
I snapped this one this am. Looks pretty darn good to me and it's even in a low light condition!!
Edit: for some reason the picture isn't showing up
A bush
A few more
Here's mine
Some people cannot be pleased, no matter what.
These photos are great and just fine, but if you're the sort of person hell bent of crapping on the PH-1 no matter what, then nothing from this phone's camera is going to placate you.
It's really getting boring at this time, all the hee-haw about the camera..
What does the slider on the bottom of Portrait Mode control? The bokeh/blurring effect?
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What does the slider on the bottom of Portrait Mode control? The bokeh/blurring effect?
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from what i gathered yes but the lighting control is sort of a manual exposure control. used it with the moto x pure and it came out fantastic
To me these photos look plenty good. I am comparing them with the likes of note 7 and op3.
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Another one
Here's mine, took yesterday
until here, i am satisfied with the portrait mode. and my daughter too, hehe
daviddem said:
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Greetings. Got my PH1 two days ago. I read through this entire thread. No URL for where I can download new camera. Anyone offer a link?
Thanks:good:
Lakino said:
Greetings. Got my PH1 two days ago. I read through this entire thread. No URL for where I can download new camera. Anyone offer a link?
Thanks:good:
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It is an app update through the play store.

Can you edit the intesity of the blur in portrait mode?

And if so, can you do it later?
Doubtful as that is in the post processing I believe. The reason people are looking for the Gcam port, or they would just adjust the current camera software.
Being a post-process is exactly why you should be able to do whatever you want woth the background. So is it a yes or a no? Can you do it with stock camera?
Actually I meant that it's done in the OnePlus algorithms. Meaning you'd have to be a camera expert to even know what does what. It's not like taking an APK and porting it. You'd have to rewrite it or know what to rewrite. At least this is what I'd expect
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Being a post-process is exactly why you should be able to do whatever you want woth the background. So is it a yes or a no? Can you do it with stock camera?
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If I'm right its not possible with the current stock camera app
But if Oneplus tries and puts some effort on camera app ,they can
I really wish we could shoot in RAW format in portrait mode, does anyone know if that is possible? Or is it with the Gcam mod?
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If I'm right its not possible with the current stock camera app
But if Oneplus tries and puts some effort on camera app ,they can
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Wow, that's...that's game breaking for me honestly. I heard amazing things about OnePlus (5t and 6), especially in terms of gaming performance, and i was really looking into buying one (plus 6 ) in the near future. But i love taking pics in weekends and holidays and edit them later to my leisure.
I'm keeping my eyes on news of some update that fixes this limitation that shouldn't exist in the first place
RaduNastase said:
Wow, that's...that's game breaking for me honestly. I heard amazing things about OnePlus (5t and 6), especially in terms of gaming performance, and i was really looking into buying one (plus 6 ) in the near future. But i love taking pics in weekends and holidays and edit them later to my leisure.
I'm keeping my eyes on news of some update that fixes this limitation that shouldn't exist in the first place
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Ok then let's request Oneplus to include blur intensity in camera app?
dvz91 said:
I really wish we could shoot in RAW format in portrait mode, does anyone know if that is possible? Or is it with the Gcam mod?
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If you're that worried about raw, you should be shooting with a dslr camera. These are point and shoot that has been given a manual mode but these are still not a replacement for a regular dslr.
Eric214 said:
If you're that worried about raw, you should be shooting with a dslr camera. These are point and shoot that has been given a manual mode but these are still not a replacement for a regular dslr.
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I agree DSLR is best but it would be nice still if we could shoot raw format pictures in portrait mode still, I mean why do they give us portrait mode but can't do much post processing with it?
dvz91 said:
I agree DSLR is best but it would be nice still if we could shoot raw format pictures in portrait mode still, I mean why do they give us portrait mode but can't do much post processing with it?
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To me since I am a photography enthusiast (fairly serious) that the portrait mode is still just for quick snaps to give a more focus point of view on the subject, not for wedding photos and such. I get your point you still want to maybe do some editing. But I guess my point is if you like the phone for enough to want to buy it and raw photo editing is a thing, it sees that the OP should have looked for that from the beginning and not be shocked it's missing that feature 3 months after release in a forum post. Just my opinion

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