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i have got a samsung omnia7 and was thinking about using the sammy rainbow custom rom, what are the pro's and cons doing this?
atm i have interop unlocked it but as i am still under warranty was curious of the effects.
advice would be grateful
It varies heavily ROM to ROM. However, there are a few common things.
Advantages:
More device control. With the policy system disabled, you can modify almost anything.
More homebrew apps, and more powerful ones (things like bazaar).
Native homebrew apps and ported WinMo apps.
Install XAPs directly (such as from IE), instead of using a PC.
If you find a bug, you can directly talk to the devs about fixing it (or possibly fix it yourself).
You may get updates before your carrier would provide them normally.
Disadvantages:
Higher risk of bugs since the ROMs get a lot less testing than official ones.
Updates may come later because you have to wait for a custom packaging of the update.
Not all custom ROMs are updatable; you might need to replace it with a new version which means you'll lose all your data.
Turning off the policy system increases your risk of malware if you arent' careful what you install.
Custom ROMs may have malware built in (not saying any of them do, but it's a risk).
Currently, I'd suggest waiting a little while to see where the Samsung ROM scene goes, what bugs are found and how quickly they're fixed, what features are available and how useful they are. However, it's pretty much always possible to go back to a stock ROM (unless you somehow really badly mess up your phone) so if you want to experiment or be an early adopter, go ahead. Otherwise, I think it'll be pretty clear what ROMs are good and where the custom ROM scene is going (support- and feature-wise) within a month or so.
so i would be safer to wait and see what the dev of the roms is going to do in the case of bugs.
thanks
That's my take. Note that I'm a dev working very hard on hacks that works with stock ROMs though - somebody who spends their time developing custom ROMs may well give completley different advice. There are certainly lots of advantages to going with custom ROMs, even at this relatively early point (it helps that a lot of the experience from HTC custom WP7 ROMs carries over to Samsung ROMs as well).
it seems as though the custom roms for omnia 7 are coming on leaps and bounds, what with MIRO's ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1499102
there seems to be very little on the way of bugs with his atm so i think i will give that one a shot. i know i am new at this but if you don't ask then you never find out things right
thanks for your advice and input....much appreciated
I've been using the site for sometime and just wanted to put an idea if someone smarter than myself wanted to come up with technical details to make this work or it may already be in development but I'm not aware of it.
Getting the latest android update on phone with hardware capable of using it keeps coming up in a lot of articles that I read and it feels that the masses will probably never come to xda forums to get the updates they may want or need due to their lack of understanding of how to go abouts updating a rom.
The roms for most phones are being done by the community quicker and more reliable than the manufacturer in some cases. Here is what I think would work for masses to get the updates without the knowhow:
Create a process to get these custom roms quickly and easily loaded on to anyone's phone without them thinking about how to reboot in recovery mode. Similar to the Samsung devices getting updates from heimdall app found on this site. However it needs to be dumbed down and should be automatic when the user plugs in the phone.
This could be done by having a windows/mac application which when your phone is plugged in or connected wireless to your local network it would recognise what device you have and any additional information such as boot loader information it needs to search for official roms automatically from the manufacturer. If there is no updates then give the user the option to search for a market like store for unofficial roms which come with a warning to run at your own risk. These would be from the xda forums however they will need to meet a certain requirement as flashing from pc/mac may require a unique process from adb which is the key part to this idea working and I'm not too familiar with it to know if it's possible for some phones or all android phones. This store will contain different roms with user ratings of which is the most reliable rom. Essentially creating a market for roms. The user then clicks install and first thing the software does is to backup everything to save the state on the users hard drive in case you need to revert back to original.
This market should be controlled like the app store by the creators incase people abuse it. This means the requirement for any roms listed would be to include the default google experience and maybe a section for non pure google experiences as an option. It would be better if google created this app/process but let the roms be user/manufacturer driven.
Then through word of mouth/twitter/blogs this windows/mac app and within short time many people will be on ICS without much effort on google.
The android market is crying out from something like this to funnel all custom roms into a place accessible for the masses(knowing the risks of doing so). This separates the hardware binding to one specific software made for it, the user should be able to choose from selection off software which suits best for the hardware he/she purchased.
Obviously this is just an idea but hoping you clever people can come up with something similar. XDA Android Updater maybe
Isn't this exactly what ROM Manager does?
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Isn't this exactly what ROM Manager does?
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Nah he wants a better implementation that's dumbed down and on windows etc...
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Do you mean that custom ROM's are more reliable than stock ROM? Are you kidding, there are tons of issues with most custom ROM's, just read around here at XDA. But often those issues are not a big problem for a XDA enthusiast, since he chooses a ROM that suits him and also know how to work around those issues. But custom ROM is not something I would recommend my sister or my parents or any non-techie friend.
There are many roms which have become very mature and to a stage with minimal issues. I installed a ICS for my brothers desire, there may be some issues out there but many he won't come across such as migration apps from titanium backup. However he still gets to experience e latest functionality that the OS brings and he seems much happier with as the experience has become more smoother and quicker. I agree that there will be some which will be very much beta most of its lifetime and the market should reflect the known issues such as we have on the forums here.
I've rooted several Samsung phones now, and one way which seems to work fine for me is
1) Go to samsung-updates.com and download a stock rom from there (having to deal with some crappy file downloading site like rapidgator or terafile)
2) Find the xda forum thread on how to root the device in question, and download a rooted rom from there (again having to deal with one of these slow ad-filled downloading sites)
3) Come back several hours later when everything has eventually downloaded, and use e.g. odin to flash the rom and finish the job.
I've done this a few times now (rooting and unrooting), and am beginning to wonder several things:
First, where are these stock roms coming from? A non-rooted Samsung phone straight out the box has a non-rooted stock rom on it -- but is there no easy way to dump the stock rom onto a computer (thus saving me the bother of having to download a stock rom when I already have a stock rom)?
Second, how are those rooted roms actually being built? Typically all I want is a stock rom with the superSU app or whatever. One thing I'm particularly confused by is that there are usually loads and loads of stock roms available for a given phone model, depending on which country and provider you want. And yet there is often only one rooted rom. How come the rooted rom doesn't care which country I'm in and which provider I have, whereas stock roms seem to care?
Google supply the android source code for free, right? Can I compile this code myself to make a stock rom somehow? Or a rooted rom? Is this what people are doing?
Third, why do I have to deal with all these crappy free download sites? If someone started some kickstarter to get funds to run a site which kept a copy of all these roms then so many people's lives would be much better, right? Why has this not happened?
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yannick.12 said:
I've rooted several Samsung phones now, and one way which seems to work fine for me is
1) Go to samsung-updates.com and download a stock rom from there (having to deal with some crappy file downloading site like rapidgator or terafile)
2) Find the xda forum thread on how to root the device in question, and download a rooted rom from there (again having to deal with one of these slow ad-filled downloading sites)
3) Come back several hours later when everything has eventually downloaded, and use e.g. odin to flash the rom and finish the job.
I've done this a few times now (rooting and unrooting), and am beginning to wonder several things:
First, where are these stock roms coming from? A non-rooted Samsung phone straight out the box has a non-rooted stock rom on it -- but is there no easy way to dump the stock rom onto a computer (thus saving me the bother of having to download a stock rom when I already have a stock rom)?
Second, how are those rooted roms actually being built? Typically all I want is a stock rom with the superSU app or whatever. One thing I'm particularly confused by is that there are usually loads and loads of stock roms available for a given phone model, depending on which country and provider you want. And yet there is often only one rooted rom. How come the rooted rom doesn't care which country I'm in and which provider I have, whereas stock roms seem to care?
Google supply the android source code for free, right? Can I compile this code myself to make a stock rom somehow? Or a rooted rom? Is this what people are doing?
Third, why do I have to deal with all these crappy free download sites? If someone started some kickstarter to get funds to run a site which kept a copy of all these roms then so many people's lives would be much better, right? Why has this not happened?
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Okay, first of all the answers to these questions are easy to find on the forums and the web.
However I will answer them as well.
Stock ROM's come from various locations, usually the ones like the ROMs on SAM-Mobile come from OTA updates or Kies updates which have been extracted/edited to work via Odin. Other stock ROMs come from software "dumped" (extracted) from the phone.
Rooted ROMs don't care as they are usually un-necesary and only for conveniance due to most stock ROMs being able to be rooted easily. Stock ROMs however come in varierties from carriers to countries as they include other features or specific boot languages that would link the phone to its packaging and service provider
Yes you can dump the ROM from your phone to your PC, guides to do this can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771347
Yes you could compile your own code from the Google AOSP however this would be time consuming and could potentially brick your device, most devs of ROMs include drivers created by the actual makers of the device which again is time consuming and requires testing multiple times with risk of bricking and is only for the experianced
Finally, these "Crappy" download sites provide a means of payment for people. Although your opinion on them is that they should use a kickstarter fund many would not pay into it therefore they would loose money. Some may disagree since stock ROMs technicly aren't their work but thats another discussion.
yannick.12 said:
I've rooted several Samsung phones now, and one way which seems to work fine for me is
1) Go to samsung-updates.com and download a stock rom from there (having to deal with some crappy file downloading site like rapidgator or terafile)
2) Find the xda forum thread on how to root the device in question, and download a rooted rom from there (again having to deal with one of these slow ad-filled downloading sites)
3) Come back several hours later when everything has eventually downloaded, and use e.g. odin to flash the rom and finish the job.
I've done this a few times now (rooting and unrooting), and am beginning to wonder several things:
First, where are these stock roms coming from? A non-rooted Samsung phone straight out the box has a non-rooted stock rom on it -- but is there no easy way to dump the stock rom onto a computer (thus saving me the bother of having to download a stock rom when I already have a stock rom)?
Second, how are those rooted roms actually being built? Typically all I want is a stock rom with the superSU app or whatever. One thing I'm particularly confused by is that there are usually loads and loads of stock roms available for a given phone model, depending on which country and provider you want. And yet there is often only one rooted rom. How come the rooted rom doesn't care which country I'm in and which provider I have, whereas stock roms seem to care?
Google supply the android source code for free, right? Can I compile this code myself to make a stock rom somehow? Or a rooted rom? Is this what people are doing?
Third, why do I have to deal with all these crappy free download sites? If someone started some kickstarter to get funds to run a site which kept a copy of all these roms then so many people's lives would be much better, right? Why has this not happened?
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1. stock roms are released by the manufacturer, or leaked to us by someone who works there. generally speaking, no you cant dump the phone then use that to re-flash stock.
2. not sure why you would flash a rooted rom instead of just rooting by itself if that's all you want.
there are many stock roms because they are region and carrier specific.
you need to get a more popular device, then you will have more custom roms to choose from.
custom roms don't contain all the partitions like a stock one does, that's why they can be used on multiple regions. what i mean is, custom roms don't contain things like the modem/radios (and other files) that are specific to your region and will cause your phone to not work or not work properly if you change them.
yes you can compile and build your own roms, but it is very much not easy, that's why everyone isnt doing it.
3. be grateful you can get a hold of the files at all when you need them, because they are not available for all phones. also, only some of the sites used suk, just depends on where the person decides to put them, and i agree, i dont understand why they use this crappy sites when better ones are available.
the reason there hasnt been a site made to store all of these files (actually there are a rare few but only for some devices) is because most people now a days wont pony up the money to support it. we are in the "entitlement" era of android. what i mean by that is, it is becoming more common that users think and act like that community owes them these files, roms, mods, etc and all the hard work it takes to make them. they have little respect for all this work and time put forth. they wont even take a half a second to click the thanks button, that should tell you something right there.
so they sure a s**t arent going to donate to keep a file repository running. yes some would but most wont, and this sort of site would use a ton of bandwidth, which would be very expensive just to host. not to mention the time and effort it would take to keep it up and running with the most current files.
Thanks both of you for the comments and responses. Below is some background which doesn't have any more questions, but is an attempt to explain why I was asking (i.e. moaning!) in the first place.
Rooting -- what I've realised is that I feel really uneasy about the whole process. It seems to rely heavily on trust, for example. Let me explain what I'm comparing it with. 15 years ago (before I had kids) I was a unix hacker and I would download linux source code from a reputable place and compile it myself on various PCs. These sites (containing the linux source code) would be reasonable professional sites with no ads and probably things like md5sums to check your download and so on, the source code would be plainly visible so you could look through it yourself, and the forums associated with them would be professionally run and contributors would clearly be educated people. I've only recently moved into the rooting roms business, basically spurred on by my kids (aged 14 and 12) who are becoming interested in how much they can get out of their android devices, and basically I'm quite surprised about how in comparison it seems like much more of an "amateur set-up". A lot of it is based on "here is a file, download it, trust me, it's fine, but you can't check this". This is fine for my kids, who just use their phones as game tools, but far less fine for me, because I use my phone to manage my finances, my work emails, my childcare, and a lot of other stuff where it's really important that nothing goes wrong [and this is why my main phone is not rooted.] There seems to be far less documentation, and what there is is spread around widely, there are plenty of threads which are dead/out of date and contains links to wildly out-of-date versions of things and so on. xda is absolutely great, once you find the great bits, but it also contains a huge sprawling mess of noise. TechMinerUK suggests (and I'm sure they are right) that one can find all the answers to the questions I'm asking on the forums and on the web. But in a well-organized scenario there would be some clean "front page" which contains a well-signposted FAQ about rooting, a FAQ about roms etc etc, rather than having to google around for everything. Of course I did google for information before I posted the questions above -- I had several more questions in fact, and google answered some of them and I posted the rest. Perhaps the key difference is the following -- 15 years ago a generic college student was only just beginning to hear about the internet and probably had no access to it in their own home, and the people setting up websites were professionals, who probably worked in computer science departments at universities. Nowadays the people rooting their phones might well be college kids with no salaries (yet), or maybe even schoolkids, so everything is perhaps being run on a more "hobby" basis. bweN diorD suggests that people aren't going to pay a little for convenient access to stuff like roms and perhaps this hits the nail on the head -- my demographic (middle-aged waged people) wouldn't think twice about donating a little to support a cause they want to see succeed -- but on the other hand I couldn't see my kids donating to support anything, because they have no income themselves. Perhaps basically the reason all these files end up on these dubious file-sharing websites is that the average wage of the contributor to this game is far less than the average wage of the people writing the linux source code 15 years ago.
That's just some background as to where the questions came from. Thanks again for the answers, and I will keep googling, if that's the way that it's supposed to work now,
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That's just some background as to where the questions came from. Thanks again for the answers, and I will keep googling, if that's the way that it's supposed to work now,
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well, the people who have at least some respect for the forum and people who help here try searching first.
you can always come and ask questions, but in my opinion, you are viewed differently if you at least put some effort into finding the answers first.
but i know the information is spread all over creation and some times difficult to find or know what is safe. that's why im here, to lend some guidance where i can, from experience.
one thing you don't want to do is, hesitate to ask a question and do something you don't understand. this frequently leads to jacked up devices.
I do a lot of important things on my phone, so the protection is number the #1 thing for me.
All my previous 5 - 6 android smartphones were rooted by me.
The main reason for rooting was to improve security and confidence in the phone - good firewall, de -bloating, control of privilegies.
But now with S8+ I am having second thought about if rooting really protects vs exposes.
1) Lots of original protection features will be gone after rooting, like DM-verity
2) Automated system updates and therefore related security patches will be gone too. I am not a big fan of regular manual downloads and updates. So my once rooted system will become dated soon.
3) Fingerprint or iris readers be one more vulnerable to errors and manipulations
Am I taking it right?
Do a good firewall and control of priviligies outweigth the new risks that rooting could bring to S8+?
Thanks for you thoughts
Apparently now if you have a rooted S8, Netflix won't work anymore
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I do a lot of important things on my phone, so the protection is number the #1 thing for me.
All my previous 5 - 6 android smartphones were rooted by me.
The main reason for rooting was to improve security and confidence in the phone - good firewall, de -bloating, control of privilegies.
But now with S8+ I am having second thought about if rooting really protects vs exposes.
1) Lots of original protection features will be gone after rooting, like DM-verity
2) Automated system updates and therefore related security patches will be gone too. I am not a big fan of regular manual downloads and updates. So my once rooted system will become dated soon.
3) Fingerprint or iris readers be one more vulnerable to errors and manipulations
Am I taking it right?
Do a good firewall and control of priviligies outweigth the new risks that rooting could bring to S8+?
Thanks for you thoughts
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You will get custom roms brother once you rooted , better than stock roms.
Thanks guys. Netflix is not a concern. But custom ROMs Iam not sure. Are they better protected than stock ROM? At least stock ROM is patched very often as new vulnerabilities are revealed. Not sure custom ROM are updated that quick. Plus automated updates without tye hassle of downloading flashing reinstalling is a big deal.
I would assume stock rom would stay most updated at least. Do stock ROMs offer the convenience of automated updates? ... and the speed and frequency of patches or fixes?
Ofcourse not rooted is more secure, it is silly to even discuss this. Rooting is the SINGLE most dangerous thing you can do. You allow 3rd party apps to modify your system. Yes, there is some sort of SuperUser app which asks for your permission, but it is still less secure than unrooted ROM. And as far as stock vs custom ROMs are concerned, would you trust more a group of enthisiasts that "modify" ROMS without proper knowlegde of inner workings or a company that does this for a living???
We all love CUSTOM ROMS, but in my experience on 5-6 (different) devices none of these are as stable as stock ROM, they cas say whatever they want, it is bull*. Stock is stock. Custom ROMs are used because we get new functionality, customizations, freedoom, maybe sometimes speed. But NEVER stability, I have flashed hundreds of ROMs since days of Desire HD through Note 2 and Nexus tablets, no custom ROM was ever as stable as stock. Period.
Personally i think it's hogwash to even think that rooting will expose you to security risks. I believe that's what most handphone manufacturers wants you to believe.
Just like an other tech you use, you make sure you do not install dubious apps. Rooting, like having admin rights on a PC, comes with certain risks and responsibilities.
Just imagine Microshaft or crapple telling you how to use their OS and how,if you have admin rights, will void your warranty or expose you to security risks, how you should use their bloatware apps or take their advice just because they know best?
Samdung doesn't like people tinkering with their stuff, especially when it outshines or is inherently superior to theirs. Their whole argument about rooting is just their way of scaring you to use their sorry of an excuse bloatware, building castles in the air and making sure you use their phones the"right" way.
Thank you Dalanik,
Then stock it is. I would still miss a good firewall or whole phone backup.
I felt quite secure when I saw new apps not being able to connect before I explicitly whitelist them in firewall.
But if it comes with a greater extent and complexity of exposure then I gave up
Thank you Frostmore,
It is not just about admin rights responsibility.
I saw people reporting fingerreader failures, knox being disabled etc. You lose some features which are designed to protect. There is no admin everyday routine that would compensate for that loss.
I would say if you don't overstand the workings of your device, you will not truly know..
Meanwhile from my experience from carriers, Samsung devices (good example: at&t note 4) is taking the enterprise route, more security for business purposes.
Non root I'd personally say from an amateur (myself) viewpoint (if you don't have the necessary knowledge to do it yourself). If someone wants to get you, they most likely will..
Another example is the location, there's multiple ways some of these apps get your location, clicking it off just seems like a "hide from user" option.
Good question though, don't see too many inquiries!
I m hesitant to root this phone. It will be the only non-rooted android I've owned. I am a developer with some embedded experience but I have become much more security conscious.
I so wish Sammy/Sprint would follow the Google Pixel model. The Pixel came out of the book without one iota of crap-a-ware. So refreshing to NOT be treated like a "mark" at a carnival.
The idea that I am Sprint's customer yet they treat me as a resource to serve up to their sponsors, like broadcast TV.
I run much of my business from this phone. I need VPN, TLS, SSL and all the security. I also develop for this device.
I may root in the future but I am going to stay clear of the bloody cutting edge for the moment. I appreciate you guys on the front line. Been there and done that...
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Thanks SpringerRider, I like your idea of postponed rooting. I think Samsung with its pushy policies is becoming more and more hostile and arrogant to their own customers over time.
They degrade the support of their devices at akcelerated speed these days. For instance My 4-year old Samsung Smart TV lost 70% of its original functionality in the last year, because Samsung gradually stripped it from SmartHub via weekly updates. They don't want to support the TV even 4 years later after it was first introduced to the market. I guess the same philosophy would be applied on us, S8+ owners much sooner than we would have expected. I guess in 2-3 years we would on our own. Plus I bet Samsung would start overloading our phones with resource hungry bloatware via updates pushing us to buy newer models.
That would be the right time to root the phone and to cut the ties to Samsung.
So I totally get your idea and I thing it makes a good sense.
I wonder why after roughly 3 years Still no one showing interest in developing a custom rom for our first grade phone? Before they claimed that it is on pause because no has the kernel source code, but now we have access to the official source code and yet no one developed a brand new custom rom for Nokia phone.
Please if anyone could help write a comment below.
to be honest, at this point i simply dont care whatever is happening in this community. If you have knowledge of building a custom rom then why not giving it a go?
i simply dont possess the knowledge at the same time i am also not complaining.
Ok, so first: Nokia 8 launched in September 2017. According to my calculator, thats roughly one and a half year since it came out. Not three.
Then, regarding kernel sources: The official kernel sources for our phone are from the Oreo 8.0 release. It's possible to use older kernels for newer ROMs, but it is really not recommended. And I am not even speaking of the fact that those official kernel sources still require edits to even work. There is no support from Nokia / HMD for development on this phone. Even their unlocker app doesn't work on the majority of versions and completely broke after 2 security patches.
I would be suprised if you can find any developer who is willing to spend their time fighting the stuff that gets thrown between our feet. (broken kernel source, not being able to temporary boot images and having to flash them instead, no working kernel sources from hmd, no reliable bootloader unlock, no official rescue tool etc. etc.) And usually, developers make things because their either need them themselves, or for the joy of creating something and sharing it with people who appreciate it. And when you can port a ROM, you can make the edits you want for yourself with Magisk, so reason 1 is already not applicable.
And as hard as it might sound, this community is by no means large enough to justify porting a ROM you dont need and risking your device stability / userdata in the process.
So the TL;DR; is probably: Either do it yourself, or expect it to never actually happen, as harsh as it sounds, sadly.
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Ok, so first: Nokia 8 launched in September 2017. According to my calculator, thats roughly one and a half year since it came out. Not three.
Then, regarding kernel sources: The official kernel sources for our phone are from the Oreo 8.0 release. It's possible to use older kernels for newer ROMs, but it is really not recommended. And I am not even speaking of the fact that those official kernel sources still require edits to even work. There is no support from Nokia / HMD for development on this phone. Even their unlocker app doesn't work on the majority of versions and completely broke after 2 security patches.
I would be suprised if you can find any developer who is willing to spend their time fighting the stuff that gets thrown between our feet. (broken kernel source, not being able to temporary boot images and having to flash them instead, no working kernel sources from hmd, no reliable bootloader unlock, no official rescue tool etc. etc.) And usually, developers make things because their either need them themselves, or for the joy of creating something and sharing it with people who appreciate it. And when you can port a ROM, you can make the edits you want for yourself with Magisk, so reason 1 is already not applicable.
And as hard as it might sound, this community is by no means large enough to justify porting a ROM you dont need and risking your device stability / userdata in the process.
So the TL;DR; is probably: Either do it yourself, or expect it to never actually happen, as harsh as it sounds, sadly.
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I can't agree with you more, I was just wondered how this newly released phone still has no custom rom while my LG G3 still after those years received many from lots of developers.
So sad to see our beloved NOKIA has no juice to compete in this race.
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I can't agree with you more, I was just wondered how this newly released phone still has no custom rom while my LG G3 still after those years received many from lots of developers.
So sad to see our beloved NOKIA has no juice to compete in this race.
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We all found out the hard way what Nokia was about by being early adopters. To me they are only interested in pushing their next device and Android One is making that easier for them. So much so the 8 is long since off their radar. It was an 'OK' phone for the money, but there's better now and it's them I'll be looking to this year.
At this point its best to just modify the current stock rom yourself by debloating it, installing kernel tweking modules via magisk, installing themes via substratum and customizing the interface using GravityBox and Xposed Edge. Thats the closest we will come to having a custom rom experience. Ive accepted that no developer will bother with this phone given all the devices that have come out since its release.
Its a lesson learnt. I love this phone but I will never buy another Nokia phone ever again. Im currently saving up for a Xiaomi phone and will use this Nokia 8 as a secondary phone in due time.
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At this point its best to just modify the current stock rom yourself by debloating it, installing kernel tweking modules via magisk, installing themes via substratum and customizing the interface using GravityBox and Xposed Edge. Thats the closest we will come to having a custom rom experience. Ive accepted that no developer will bother with this phone given all the devices that have come out since its release.
Its a lesson learnt. I love this phone but I will never buy another Nokia phone ever again. Im currently saving up for a Xiaomi phone and will use this Nokia 8 as a secondary phone in due time.
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Poco or 1+ here
MDV106 said:
At this point its best to just modify the current stock rom yourself by debloating it, installing kernel tweking modules via magisk, installing themes via substratum and customizing the interface using GravityBox and Xposed Edge. Thats the closest we will come to having a custom rom experience. Ive accepted that no developer will bother with this phone given all the devices that have come out since its release.
Its a lesson learnt. I love this phone but I will never buy another Nokia phone ever again. Im currently saving up for a Xiaomi phone and will use this Nokia 8 as a secondary phone in due time.
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Me too, my next phone would be OnePlus 6T or Oppo.
Never ever ever go around nokia phones again