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the carrier announced that they will be supporting VoLTE, and the first device to be compatible is Samsung Galaxy Note 3, and the device they are selling are already updated to the compatible firmware. For devices from other channel, would be upgradable starting tomorrow.
not sure if it is the N9005ZHUENB6 leak.
http://www.pccw.com/portal/site/PCC...VgnVCM1000006a8ba8c0____&language=en_US&pop=Y
HKT and Huawei launch the world’s first seamless Voice over LTE service
HKT (SEHK: 6823) - HONG KONG, May 15, 2014 – HKT and Huawei today launch Hong Kong’s first Voice over LTE (VoLTE) service, which is available via the market-leading Samsung Note 3 LTE smartphone.
HKT is the first operator in Hong Kong to offer its 4G customers a VoLTE service while Huawei is the first solution provider to support a commercially available VoLTE service based on the latest 3GPP R10 standard in the world. It is also the first time for Samsung to launch VoLTE enabled smartphones outside South Korea. HKT, Huawei and Samsung are shaping the future of mobile communications through their continuous technology innovation and investment.
The launch marks the world’s first commercial launch of the latest standard VoLTE technology (3GPP standard Release 10-based which enables a totally seamless handover of voice calls from 4G to 3G coverage), reflecting the growth and maturity of the VoLTE ecosystem in the marketplace. It also marks an important collaboration between HKT, Huawei and Samsung.
HKT incorporates Huawei’s state-of-the-art VoLTE solutions. Highlights of the new VoLTE service are:
Enables higher quality video and clearer sound, with significantly reduced background noise
Enables faster voice call set-up (around 1 second for VoLTE calls to VoLTE calls)
Enhances video call quality to 640 pixel x 480 pixel or above
Enables instant switching between voice and video calls
Mr. Alex Arena, Group Managing Director of HKT, said, “We are committed to providing the most advanced and compelling services to customers. Our game-changing VoLTE service will be offered to new and existing mobile customers. We are thrilled to work with Huawei to roll out the VoLTE service to customers and look forward to bringing it to more customers through Samsung Note 3 LTE now and potentially other mobile devices in future.”
Mr. Ma Haixu, President of core network product line, Huawei, said, “Built on Huawei’s network platform, the new service is the world’s first commercially available VoLTE solution using the latest R10 standard. The new service signifies Huawei’s leading position in the VoLTE market. We are focusing our efforts to ensure HKT’s VoLTE network is an industry benchmark in terms of service quality, innovation and return on investment.”
Earlier in May, Huawei was awarded "Best VoLTE Product" for its end-to-end voice and video over LTE (V2oLTE) solution at the 2014 IMS World Forum in Barcelona, Spain. Huawei’s IMS based VoLTE solution is currently being deployed in more than 21 networks. The launch of HKT’s VoLTE service is a great testament to Huawei's dedication and contributions to LTE deployment, emphasizing the leadership of HKT and Huawei in the VoLTE market.
Please see the Appendix for details of the “Ultimate Mobility SIM Plan” and special standalone handset price.
http://www.pccw-hkt.com/tc/4G-LTE/#d2
it is N9005ZHUENE3
http://samsung-updates.com/details/27976/Galaxy_Note_3_Snapdragon/SM-N9005/TGY/N9005ZHUENE3.html
downloading....
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http://samsung-updates.com/details/27976/Galaxy_Note_3_Snapdragon/SM-N9005/TGY/N9005ZHUENE3.html
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Mirror?
Sent from my SM-N9005 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
I couldn't download it myself, it take more then 24 hours. and it is now in sammobile.com
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=29373
yup upgraded and tested the VoLTE
Does this firmware will trip knox ? Any N9005 device will work and no region restriction ?
domoking said:
Does this firmware will trip knox ? Any N9005 device will work and no region restriction ?
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HK N9005 devices has 16GB flash, and the rom image won't work on 32GB device as is. need to modify the PIT or use a backup? I am not sure.
I flashed mine(16GB) just now with mobile odin, VoLTE is greyed out for me as my carrier has no VoLTE support.
root is still ok
my KNOX is triggered long ago:good:
heard that region unlock(5 mins voice call with a "correct" sim) is required for every flash update.
mobilevil said:
HK N9005 devices has 16GB flash, and the rom image won't work on 32GB device as is. need to modify the PIT or use a backup? I am not sure.
I flashed mine(16GB) just now with mobile odin, VoLTE is greyed out for me as my carrier has no VoLTE support.
root is still ok
my KNOX is triggered long ago:good:
heard that region unlock(5 mins voice call with a "correct" sim) is required for every flash update.
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Thanks for the information :good:
seems like VoLTE having problem .. not sure if PCCW or the mobile itself.. whenever i enable VoLTE , i cant answer any incoming call.. unless i disable it.. weird..
any mirror? the download is extreme slow
Wife got an OTA update yesterday. VoLTE now showing but greyed out. She is on one2free (CSL). CSL were supposed to be rolling VoLTE out in H1 this year, so technically still got a while. Yes, am aware that CSL is now part of the HKT/PCCW family, but it seems for the time being they are keeping them as separate operating entities.
China Mobile (Hong Kong) can provide VOLTE service?
In Shenzhen, the network is still not VOLTE
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Samsung Galaxy S4 I9505 VOLTE firmware update?
Could we obtain the firmware update file and update ourselves?
visiovis said:
Could we obtain the firmware update file and update ourselves?
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https://samsung-updates.com/ and http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/
that's where I get all the firmwares...
Anyone with custom ROM + N9005ZHUENF1 able to see VoLTE in quick panel or setting? I am using X-NOTE + N9005ZHUENF1 baseband but can't find the VoLTE related setting... Thanks
Can I get volte supported rom for 32gb variant note 3.....suffering without it??
ScienceDroid99 said:
Can I get volte supported rom for 32gb variant note 3.....suffering without it
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Go to the link below and install the rom I indicated.
During installation leaves everything by default and you will find yourself among the VoLTE call settings.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/development/rom-qs-n9005-lp-t3037655
QS-N9005-LP-ZSUGPG1
Blafio said:
Go to the link below and install the rom I indicated.
During installation leaves everything by default and you will find yourself among the VoLTE call settings.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/development/rom-qs-n9005-lp-t3037655
QS-N9005-LP-ZSUGPG1
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Thanks
I am going to try it.
Edit: No luck
So looking at the specs for the Mate 9, it looks like even though it's advertised as GSM unlocked only, the MHA-L29 model has all the CDMA radios to make it work on a US network like Verizon. This seems similar to the Axon 7. I know it's only just come out in the US, but I'm curious if anybody is planning on trying it on Verizon or another CDMA network. I have Verizon and the Mate 9 looks like an amazing phone, but I don't want to drop $600 on it without being relatively sure it'll actually work.
Have you asked Verizon if they are going to sell or support it?
RR-99 said:
Have you asked Verizon if they are going to sell or support it?
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Even if they don't it would be still usable on their network. That is, IF it has the proper CDMA for Verizon and/or Sprint. Like the Axon 7, it will show "roaming" but will work fine. I think it will be a matter of waiting until someone tries it. I would totally do it but no Best Buy within 250 miles of me has one in stock.
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Even if they don't it would be still usable on their network. That is, IF it has the proper CDMA for Verizon and/or Sprint. Like the Axon 7, it will show "roaming" but will work fine. I think it will be a matter of waiting until someone tries it. I would totally do it but no Best Buy within 250 miles of me has one in stock.
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been trying. won't work.
got the axon 7 to work, though call reception wasn't as good as pixel and no data during calls.
Thanks for the definitive info!
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Thanks for the definitive info!
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yea it's too bad. i'd been looking forward to this phone for a long time.
screen is awesome, really bright, super fast. way more responsive than the pixel.
speaker sucks, but so does the pixel's.
i don't get the point of launching in the US to only half of the potential customers.
I keep pressing sprint to accept it. Otherwise our 2 accounts will be bought out via another carrier. Where i work i get a big discount on Verizon so i can get a huge plan for less, better speeds n service etc.
OR ill have Tmo buy it out
It's not up to Sprint. The hardware is CDMA compatible (and works on CDMA in China), but it has not yet been certified by the FCC to use CDMA in the US. As per Anandtech in their Kirin 960 review:
"It should be pointed out that CDMA certification for the US via the FCC takes 18-24 months, and I was unable to confirm when the process was started, so we may have to wait another year for a US-focused CDMA devices."
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It's not up to Sprint. The hardware is CDMA compatible (and works on CDMA in China), but it has not yet been certified by the FCC to use CDMA in the US. As per Anandtech in their Kirin 960 review:
"It should be pointed out that CDMA certification for the US via the FCC takes 18-24 months, and I was unable to confirm when the process was started, so we may have to wait another year for a US-focused CDMA devices."
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Interesting. So the radio could work but it's restricted somehow? Still a bummer... [emoji16]
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It's not up to Sprint. The hardware is CDMA compatible (and works on CDMA in China), but it has not yet been certified by the FCC to use CDMA in the US. As per Anandtech in their Kirin 960 review:
"It should be pointed out that CDMA certification for the US via the FCC takes 18-24 months, and I was unable to confirm when the process was started, so we may have to wait another year for a US-focused CDMA devices."
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really interesting, thanks.
18-24 months is a crazy long time. not sure where they get that.
one of innumerable articles about the Pixel is that it took 9 mos to build, start to finish.
and I think there was also a short timeline for the S6 after Samsung ditched the 810.
not gonna argue w/AnandTech, but I am curious how that works.
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one of innumerable articles about the Pixel is that it took 9 mos to build, start to finish.
and I think there was also a short timeline for the S6 after Samsung ditched the 810.
not gonna argue w/AnandTech, but I am curious how that works.
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It's not about the phone, it's the chipset. Qualcomm has a lot of CDMA technology IP, so phones that use CDMA either have needed to use Qualcomm's chips, or pay them royalties. I believe the Kirin 960 is one of the first non-Qualcomm chips to natively support CDMA. But the FCC has to approve it's use in the US. I believe this is why Samsung has used their own Exynos chips in their phones in other markets, but uses Qualcomm's chips in phones destined to the US... it's cheaper and/or easier to just buy Qualcomm's chips that have already been approved.
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It's not about the phone, it's the chipset. Qualcomm has a lot of CDMA technology IP, so phones that use CDMA either have needed to use Qualcomm's chips, or pay them royalties. I believe the Kirin 960 is one of the first non-Qualcomm chips to natively support CDMA. But the FCC has to approve it's use in the US. I believe this is why Samsung has used their own Exynos chips in their phones in other markets, but uses Qualcomm's chips in phones destined to the US... it's cheaper and/or easier to just buy Qualcomm's chips that have already been approved.
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oh ok, that make sense.
so when Samsung skipped the 810 completely in the S6/Note 5 and just went with their Exynos, they still used Qualcomm's radios for the Sprint/Verizon versions.
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so when Samsung skipped the 810 completely in the S6/Note 5 and just went with their Exynos, they still used Qualcomm's radios for the Sprint/Verizon versions.
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Here are a couple articles about that...
http://www.fool.com/investing/gener...mm-inc-totally-out-of-the-samsung-galaxy.aspx
http://www.androidcentral.com/about-qualcomm-4g-sticker-your-galaxy-s6
dscline said:
Here are a couple articles about that...
http://www.fool.com/investing/gener...mm-inc-totally-out-of-the-samsung-galaxy.aspx
http://www.androidcentral.com/about-qualcomm-4g-sticker-your-galaxy-s6
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good stuff, thanks!
so if it is technically possible to run this on Sprint (thinking Project FI which uses TMobile and Sprint 90% of the time), then is there a way to force the device to use the CDMA modem for the US Dual-band models (L29)? Is this a matter of Sprint rejecting the IMEI (akin to verizon) due to the chipset not "qualified" for use by FCC, or is it somehow disabled in the device? IF this is something turned off at the device (because it was shipped to US?), is there a custom ROM / Firmware that can be used to enable it? I'd really like to keep FI but right now my shiny new device wont switch over from TMobile to Sprint. #Pissed.
I'm bought in at this point, so if theres a way to do it, I'll do whatever is necessary, including voiding warranty.
my impression was the CDMA was for China DATA and not a voice CDMA. I bought 2 of the mate 9s but I may have to sell out - ATT covers 99% of the people - as long as they are in metro areas. Disapointing, I love these phones.......
It's never going to happen
dscline said:
It's not up to Sprint. The hardware is CDMA compatible (and works on CDMA in China), but it has not yet been certified by the FCC to use CDMA in the US. As per Anandtech in their Kirin 960 review:
"It should be pointed out that CDMA certification for the US via the FCC takes 18-24 months, and I was unable to confirm when the process was started, so we may have to wait another year for a US-focused CDMA devices."
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While it may be CDMA compatible I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it ever to be here in the US, Huawei hasn't even been updating the US model of the mate 9 (last security patch was from May), and as far as I can tell the mate 10 is the last one with a US model, none of the new honor phones are US, just international models. With the BS from the government and the lack of support for US customers I think Huawei is a dead horse as far as we are concerned
They sure are putting Samsung to SHAME. Which they would work on our LTE networks in U.S.
https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-android-pie-update-emui-9-0-922172/
I'd take Samsung software over Huawei any day. Complete source for all devices in a reasonable time frame. Hassle free bootloader unlock. Root. Etc.
Huawei's hardware gets better and better, but their software (or software / code) policy is heading towards joke status.
tailgunner9 said:
They sure are putting Samsung to SHAME. Which they would work on our LTE networks in U.S.
https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-android-pie-update-emui-9-0-922172/
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The Mate 20 X (the forum you posted this in) comes with EMUI 9.0 / Android Pie and works with LTE on most AT&T bands.
Or at least, my EVR-L29 did...
Where can I buy the ROG 5? Official ASUS store link preferred.
idk but amazon has the global version not the tencent one although they have that too. Officially idk i heard soon though.
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Where can I buy the ROG 5? Official ASUS store link preferred.
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Never heard of "Dr. Google.com"??
I got mine from https://ngpstoreusa.com/asus-rog-ph...16gb-ram-international-version-phantom-black/ it is the global version and it came with the Aeroactive Cooler 5 fan I'm on Cricket Wireless which uses AT&T towers it work great I have VOLTE
ROG Phone 5
Play to the max with ROG Phone 5 Ultimate, the gaming smartphone that takes no prisoners!
rog.asus.com
See how https://rog.asus.com/us/phones/rog-phone-3-model/ has that "Where to buy" button in the top menu? You need one of those.
Do we know if the official US version will have different 5g band support than the international you have mentioned here?
twistedumbrella said:
ROG Phone 5
Play to the max with ROG Phone 5 Ultimate, the gaming smartphone that takes no prisoners!
rog.asus.com
See how https://rog.asus.com/us/phones/rog-phone-3-model/ has that "Where to buy" button in the top menu? You need one of those.
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It doesn't show it for the rog phone 5 there's no news on anything on their website I got mine from Amazon working great no issues
chairman011 said:
It doesn't show it for the rog phone 5 there's no news on anything on their website I got mine from Amazon working great no issues
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It doesn't show it because it hasn't released yet. That was the point...
The international version has limited support for US bands. That's what eBay and third party Amazon sellers are listing.
Disclaimer: This post was made before the US version released. You can find a link to the store and details about the release in the post below.
US version just released:
ASUS USA
ASUS is a leading company driven by innovation and commitment to quality for products that include notebooks, netbooks, motherboards, graphics cards, displays, desktop PCs, servers, wireless solutions, mobile phones and networking devices. ASUS ranks among BusinessWeek’s InfoTech 100 for 12...
store.asus.com
Additional information about the Pro and Ultimate versions:
You can now buy Asus’ gaming-ready ROG Phone 5
Game all day and also take calls.
www.theverge.com
Manteam111 said:
US version just released:
ASUS USA
ASUS is a leading company driven by innovation and commitment to quality for products that include notebooks, netbooks, motherboards, graphics cards, displays, desktop PCs, servers, wireless solutions, mobile phones and networking devices. ASUS ranks among BusinessWeek’s InfoTech 100 for 12...
store.asus.com
Additional information about the Pro and Ultimate versions:
You can now buy Asus’ gaming-ready ROG Phone 5
Game all day and also take calls.
www.theverge.com
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Wow, thanks, this is great news. I've been searching everywhere for a Storm White phone for the US, but haven't found a version I'm comfortable with for T-Mobile and AT&T bands. I've seen them specify those carriers online at various sources, but the bands supported hasn't been comprehensive with the offering of say version A.
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It doesn't show it because it hasn't released yet. That was the point...
The international version has limited support for US bands. That's what eBay and third party Amazon sellers are listing.
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Hi;
Just placed the order now for a North American version:
ASUS USA
ASUS is a leading company driven by innovation and commitment to quality for products that include notebooks, netbooks, motherboards, graphics cards, displays, desktop PCs, servers, wireless solutions, mobile phones and networking devices. ASUS ranks among BusinessWeek’s InfoTech 100 for 12...
store.asus.com
samteeee said:
Hi;
Just placed the order now for a North American version:
ASUS USA
ASUS is a leading company driven by innovation and commitment to quality for products that include notebooks, netbooks, motherboards, graphics cards, displays, desktop PCs, servers, wireless solutions, mobile phones and networking devices. ASUS ranks among BusinessWeek’s InfoTech 100 for 12...
store.asus.com
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Congrats? Not sure why I was being quoted here.
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Congrats? Not sure why I was being quoted here.
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Sorry my bad!
samteeee said:
Hi;
Just placed the order now for a North American version:
ASUS USA
ASUS is a leading company driven by innovation and commitment to quality for products that include notebooks, netbooks, motherboards, graphics cards, displays, desktop PCs, servers, wireless solutions, mobile phones and networking devices. ASUS ranks among BusinessWeek’s InfoTech 100 for 12...
store.asus.com
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Did it give you the option of Storm White or was it just the black? I'll be pulling the trigger on this phone, but don't want black. Thanks!
I just ordered the USA version from the Asus website but I'm still keeping the tencent version as well and I will be getting a new T-Mobile SIM card I'll be trying it out first on the temcent edition since T-Mobile now supports SA71 I know 5G will work on the USA version but I'll give it a shot on the other version and I'll report back later this week
I Like Soup said:
Did it give you the option of Storm White or was it just the black? I'll be pulling the trigger on this phone, but don't want black. Thanks!
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Just the black, I think as I only wanted the black.
Just black currently
Anyone know where I can get the US version (it has band 12... Global does not) since Asus is Out of stock? Anyone know how long it's been out of stock and/or has assumptions if it will be back soon? Also, what is the identifier to use which indicates the NA version please? TIA
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Anyone know where I can get the US version (it has band 12... Global does not) since Asus is Out of stock? Anyone know how long it's been out of stock and/or has assumptions if it will be back soon? Also, what is the identifier to use which indicates the NA version please? TIA
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I think I have the correct NA model but can't seem to find where else I can buy it.
Version B / ZS673KS-1B048IN (?) / I005DB(?)
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I just ordered the USA version from the Asus website but I'm still keeping the tencent version as well and I will be getting a new T-Mobile SIM card I'll be trying it out first on the temcent edition since T-Mobile now supports SA71 I know 5G will work on the USA version but I'll give it a shot on the other version and I'll report back later this week
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Can you please tell me the model number of the device you received from ASUS US store? Thank you kindly.
Users from eastern Europe/Europa, maybe from other parts of the world other than America report horrible google habits...
NO 5g. NO Volte! NO VoIP ! Sometimes No SIM detected (of course the SIM is in the phone) ! Can't use internet when you are in a call..
These people talk to phone companies (Orange, Vodafone, Telekom) about this Horrible problems . The answer was that stupid google block this options in these part of the world because they don't give a f*ck about people from these countries.
Could not satisfy google insatiable GREED! for money !
Do you friends have this on your Pixel 7 pro ? If so how do you even use the phone?..
Any of you have Graphene OS on your Pixel 7 pro ? These problems are still threre?
I post this because i want to buy Pixel 7 pro..
Thank you.
Happy new year !!! All the best !
If it was down to greed they would let the phones run fully everywhere and not give a toss whether it worked or not.
Meh, don't get me started...
Gookill is the worst. Anything higher than Android 10 sucks. Might as well be Apple now.
Same deal as MS did; Google wants to force you to use cloud rather than expandable storage. All the more user data for them to collect. Google is wholesale spreaders of disinformation, hype, biased censorship, and are highly politically biased/manipulative.
Recommendation; buy a Note 10+ running on Android 9 or 10. No variable refresh rate display but better color/gamma accuracy and calibration. Good cams and up to 1tb expandable storage.
A long lived dependable workhouse that gets good SOT and runs like a bat out of hell. Even though it's 3 yo it keeps pace with the newest flagships for most tasks, only slightly slower and sometimes faster. Almost always gets better SOT. Excellent form factor, balance and build quality. Runs well stock once optimized. If you want to stay stock the Snapdragon variants are the best.
I didn't understand what you mean. I have two devices in the family. one with GOS and one original Stock. Both are working without any problems.
There aren't many reports either about the problems you are mentioning, at least not in Germany.
Germany is not really in the middle of nowhere now is it? Just like the Netherlands where I live.
Never be the first to buy a new phone and do your research before buying.
I do have to agree that this phone has its share of issues, minor ones but nevertheless.
My stock dialer just doesn't work, replaced it.VERY annoying!
My stock camera app goes black after a couple of shots when shooting at night. Booting fixes it. VERY annoying!
The stock launcher is so basic and with the un-removable search bar. Replaced by Lawnchair. VERY annoying!
What else...
I do love the phone though, battery life for one is truly epic, photo quality likewise!
I'm in Italy, on TIM provider, no such issue. I have 5G, VoLTE, I can use internet when calling and my SIM is always detected. My provider is testing VoIP now, but I'm not interested as I'm on an unlimited 5G plan.
My dialer and camera app work perfectly.
Stock launcher is stock launcher, you have a ton to choose from. If you prefer a wholy stock phone, buy an iPhone.
I suggest to edit title to "Horrible Google in Germany".
It's also not a Germany problem. I have 2 Prepaid Sims in (blau (o2network) and a vodafone callya as esim). For both volte is working without problem, the vodafone one also have 5g, no problems with dialer or anything else....
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Germany is not really in the middle of nowhere now is it? Just like the Netherlands where I live.
Never be the first to buy a new phone and do your research before buying.
I do have to agree that this phone has its share of issues, minor ones but nevertheless.
My stock dialer just doesn't work, replaced it.VERY annoying!
My stock camera app goes black after a couple of shots when shooting at night. Booting fixes it. VERY annoying!
The stock launcher is so basic and with the un-removable search bar. Replaced by Lawnchair. VERY annoying!
What else...
I do love the phone though, battery life for one is truly epic, photo quality likewise!
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The stock launcher should be fast, stable and very user customizable. One reason I like Samsung's... lol, at least the N10+ as their hardware after this just doesn't hit the mark. The N9 is way too slow to be practical. Pixel's philosophy is sort of one size vanilla fits all and lacks needed customization options in my opinion. Clearly if you need to resort to using a 3rd party launcher Pixel fell short of meeting your needs with this core UI application. *meh*
After Android 10 Google Android went to scoped storage dumb bunny hell. Pie is still my preferred OS. This 3 yo flagship with 3 yo firmware provides a better overall user experience, balance and functionality in my opinion. It's a joy to use and very capable. It's not drowning in needless security protocols or hardware bloat... it just works day after day. Security for me is simply not an issue in real time usage; this load is over 2.5 yo, still fast, stable with no known security breaches. I use a few modifications and practices but nothing too drastic on this stock Android to achieve this. I spend very little time doing maintenance and troubleshooting.
So yeah, not liking Google's or Samsung's constant ball drops. No slam dunks, for years now. Pathetic.
MrBelter said:
If it was down to greed they would let the phones run fully everywhere and not give a toss whether it worked or not.
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NO !
Only sale in Rich country's ! That's GREED .
Germany is Not a poor conuntry.
About google...
Google destroyed OxygenOS with his creap apps. Now "works" to annihilate Motorola UI.
Icreap is poop. Prison! To decode an icreap is called jail break.
Samsung is full of bloatware & the BS with ecosystem... And the Really Slow charging... Samsung Note 10+ 5g is the most beautifull phone for me. In my case was slow. Oneplus 8 Pro.. compared to Note 10+ was flying.
Back to Pixel 7 pro. My hope was that someone have Graphene Os on the phone and all the blocking is gone. With the Privacy of Graphene, too.
The problems i mentioned are in Romania & other eastern Europe.
SilentEYE said:
I didn't understand what you mean. I have two devices in the family. one with GOS and one original Stock. Both are working without any problems.
There aren't many reports either about the problems you are mentioning, at least not in Germany.
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null0seven said:
NO !
Only sale in Rich country's ! That's GREED .
Germany is Not a poor conuntry.
About google...
Google destroyed OxygenOS with his creap apps. Now "works" to annihilate Motorola UI.
Icreap is poop. Prison! To decode an icreap is called jail break.
Samsung is full of bloatware & the BS with ecosystem... And the Really Slow charging... Samsung Note 10+ 5g is the most beautifull phone for me. In my case was slow. Oneplus 8 Pro.. compared to Note 10+ was flying.
Back to Pixel 7 pro. My hope was that someone have Graphene Os on the phone and all the blocking is gone. With the Privacy of Graphene, too.
The problems i mentioned are in Romania & other eastern Europe.
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So how come the Pixel 5a was only sold in 2 countries if that was genuinly the case?
This topic is a little bit of rage, but to put things into perspective. OP is right at some points. I live in Slovakia and I have had so far:
Pixel 5
Pixel 6
Pixel 6 Pro
Pixel 7
Pixel 7 Pro
And neither of them was fully functional in Slovakia. What I mean by that? VoLTE/VoWiFi/5G are not working with any of the available carriers. I have checked with them all personally. They have proved and confirmed the issues are on the Google side.
In order to achieve full functionality, you must root the phone and use all sort of mods to enable all of the features. And to this day, I am not sure why is Google doing this. For this reason only I am switching between my Z Fold4 and iPhone 14 Pro. The moment Google will finally and kindly enable 100% of functionality to its Pixel devices in every country, I am getting it full time.
gpvecchi said:
I'm in Italy, on TIM provider, no such issue. I have 5G, VoLTE,
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Works because it has carrier configs made by Google for TIM (222-01)
null0seven said:
Users from eastern Europe/Europa, maybe from other parts of the world other than America report horrible google habits...
NO 5g. NO Volte! NO VoIP !
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That's because Google has a very bad habit to play like they're Apple (on network side)
But with no significant market share
"The carrier should contact us to ""certify"" our phone to their network"
which translates in
"Won't enable anything until X carrier contacts us to add their network to our internal whitelist"
Funny enough, that problem exist even with "certified" carriers, like windtre (222-88) where you can't use their N78 60mhz only because Google ""certified"" only 40mhz N78 max for them, doesn't matter if with other phones even 150€ everything works perfectly
That problem will exist with other carriers if they will have more spectrum than allowed by their carrier policies (like EE [UK network] if they will merge their N78 blocks)
Is it country specific? I'm in the UK and I have been with 3 different providers/operators since I have had my Pixel 7 Pro. Here it seems more down to the telecom operator.
The first - No 5G, no VoWiFi, No VoLTE
The second - No 5G, no VoWiFi, No VoLTE
Now on my 3rd provider where I get 5G, VoWiFi, and VoLTE
The first two simply say they do not support the device. I'm not sure why that would be, they also didn't 'sell' any current Pixel Phones.
Is there a charge or operating cost to Google (or someone else) to support a device with the extra network functionality? Maybe the operator doesn't believe it's worth paying for the smaller number of potential customers with that device. Or maybe some operators never get the choice to activate those features based on their country/region? Who knows.
pemz82 said:
Is it country specific? I'm in the UK and I have been with 3 different providers/operators since I have had my Pixel 7 Pro. Here it seems more down to the telecom operator.
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Not, more like carrier specific
Are the first two providers MVNO?
chabuje99 said:
Not, more like carrier specific
Are the first two providers MVNO?
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All 3 have been MVNO. One uses O2, one Vodafone, and the final is Three (Hutchison UK)
pemz82 said:
All 3 have been MVNO. One uses O2, one Vodafone, and the final is Three (Hutchison UK)
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pemz82 said:
The first - No 5G, no VoWiFi, No VoLTE
The second - No 5G, no VoWiFi, No VoLTE
Now on my 3rd provider where I get 5G, VoWiFi, and VoLTE
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Odd. I'm in the UK and I'm on Vodafone UK on pay monthly, using a Pixel 7 Pro bought from Very so it's network unbranded and unlocked. I took delivery mid October just after release date and I have had fully working 5G and VoLTE since day one and voice over WiFi has worked since the November update.
Not sure what you could have been doing wrong.
Beefheart said:
Odd. I'm in the UK and I'm on Vodafone UK on pay monthly, using a Pixel 7 Pro bought from Very so it's network unbranded and unlocked. I took delivery mid October just after release date and I have had fully working 5G and VoLTE since day one and voice over WiFi has worked since the November update.
Not sure what you could have been doing wrong.
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They were MVNO's not the main network.
First was Sky Mobile (who use O2)
Second was Lebara (who use Vodafone)
Third is Smarty (who use Three)
Sky and Lebara could have opened access for 5G/VoLTE/VoWiFi for Pixel phones but chose not to for whatever reason. The parent networks they run on (O2 and Vodafone) allow access to these features on Pixel devices. So it is not the physical network, it is the carrier choosing not to allow access.
Thankfully Smarty do allow access to all features for Pixel devices.
pemz82 said:
They were MVNO's not the main network.
First was Sky Mobile (who use O2)
Second was Lebara (who use Vodafone)
Third is Smarty (who use Three)
Sky and Lebara could have opened access for 5G/VoLTE/VoWiFi for Pixel phones but chose not to for whatever reason. The parent networks they run on (O2 and Vodafone) allow access to these features on Pixel devices. So it is not the physical network, it is the carrier choosing not to allow access.
Thankfully Smarty do allow access to all features for Pixel devices.
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Understood. I'm moving when my contract is up in March, and likely to Talk Mobile who is an MVNO owned by Vodafone and who use their network. My son currently uses them so I will check with his sim card before moving.
Issue for me is that 3 are totally toilet in my area in terms of signal so I can't use Smarty.
Like i wrote in OP, users of Pixel 7 Pro complain to Orange, Vodafone, Telekom phone companies. The answer was that google block these options & they colud do nothing about it, because of google don't let them.
I want to buy the phone, but it works horrible in my country.